.bob (NOT a Cretan!) in da (realm of the unpredictable) house

December 15, 2006

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

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> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

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> > > > wrote:

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> > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> <skywords@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Deus ex machina is a Latin phrase that is used to

> > > describe an

> > > > > > > > > > unexpected, artificial, or improbable character,

> > device, or

> > > > > event

> > > > > > > > > > introduced suddenly in a work of fiction or drama to

> > > resolve a

> > > > > > > > > > situation or untangle a plot (e.g., having the

> protagonist

> > > > wake

> > > > > > > up and

> > > > > > > > > > realize it was all a dream, or an angel suddenly

> > > appearing to

> > > > > > solve

> > > > > > > > > > all the plot problems of a story that the characters

> > > can't or

> > > > > > won't

> > > > > > > > > > resolve on their own). The phrase has been extended to

> > refer

> > > > > > to any

> > > > > > > > > > resolution to a story which does not pay due regard

> to the

> > > > > story's

> > > > > > > > > > internal logic and is so unlikely that it challenges

> > > > > suspension of

> > > > > > > > > > disbelief, allowing the author to conclude the story

> > with an

> > > > > > > unlikely,

> > > > > > > > > > though more palatable, ending. In modern terms the

> deus ex

> > > > > > > machina has

> > > > > > > > > > also come to describe a being, object or event that

> > suddenly

> > > > > > appears

> > > > > > > > > > and solves a seemingly insoluble difficulty (e. g. the

> > > cavalry

> > > > > > > > > > arriving). A classic example of this type of deus ex

> > > > machina is

> > > > > > > > > > Homer's Odyssey; a more contemporary example is

Michael

> > > > > > > Crichton's The

> > > > > > > > > > Andromeda Strain. While in storytelling this might

seem

> > > > > > > unfulfilling,

> > > > > > > > > > in real life this type of figure might be welcome and

> > > heroic,

> > > > > > due to

> > > > > > > > > > the low probability of such an event occurring.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It sometimes also can mean, usually in an episode of a

> > > > > sitcom, an

> > > > > > > > > > event or plot device which does not necessarily

> solve the

> > > > > > > conflict of

> > > > > > > > > > the plot, but demotes the character(s) into the

> financial,

> > > > > > > emotional,

> > > > > > > > > > mental, or geographical state they were in when the

> > episode

> > > > > began,

> > > > > > > > > > restoring the series' status quo in order to more

easily

> > > allow

> > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > > situation in the next episode. However, this usage,

> > which is

> > > > > > > somewhat

> > > > > > > > > > different from classical deus ex machina, is more

> commonly

> > > > > > > called the

> > > > > > > > > > " reset button technique " .

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The notion of deus ex machina can also be applied to a

> > > > > revelation

> > > > > > > > > > within a story experienced by a character which

> > involves the

> > > > > > > > > > individual realizing that the complicated, sometimes

> > > > perilous or

> > > > > > > > > > mundane and perhaps seemingly unrelated sequence of

> events

> > > > > > > leading up

> > > > > > > > > > to this point in the story are joined together by some

> > > > profound

> > > > > > > > > > concept. Thus the unexpected and timely

intervention is

> > > aimed

> > > > > > at the

> > > > > > > > > > meaning of the story rather than a physical event

in the

> > > plot.

> > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > may more accurately be described as a plot twist.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The Greek tragedian Euripides is notorious for using

> > > this plot

> > > > > > > device.

> > > > > > > > > > The first person known to have criticized the

device was

> > > > > > > Aristotle in

> > > > > > > > > > his Poetics, where he argues that a good tragedy must

> > remain

> > > > > > > > plausible.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > that's unbelievable.that's a tragedy! as unremainingly

> > > > > > inplausible as

> > > > > > > > > it seems. Ari always was sort of a party pooper. maybe

> > > he'll be

> > > > > > > > > different whenever he gets rebooted into windows.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " be a clown, be a clown, "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > how does it go, bob?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > VERSE

> > > > > > > > I'll remember forever,

> > > > > > > > When I was but three,

> > > > > > > > Mama, who was clever.

> > > > > > > > Remarking to me….

> > > > > > > > If son when you're grown up

> > > > > > > > You want ev'rything nice

> > > > > > > > I've got your future sewn up

> > > > > > > > If you take this advice…

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > REFRAIN 1

> > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > Act the fool play the calf

> > > > > > > > And you'll always have the last laugh

> > > > > > > > Wear the cap and the bells

> > > > > > > > And you'll rate with all the best swells

> > > > > > > > If you become a doctor, folks'll face you with dread

> > > > > > > > If you become a dentist, they'll be glad when you're dead

> > > > > > > > You'll get a bigger hand if you can stand on your head

> > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > REFRAIN 2

> > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > Be a crazy buffoon

> > > > > > > > And the demoiselles'll all swoon

> > > > > > > > Dress in huge baggy pants

> > > > > > > > And you'll ride the road to romance

> > > > > > > > A butcher or a baker ladies never embrace

> > > > > > > > A barber or a beau would be a social disgrace

> > > > > > > > They all'll come to call if you can fall on your face

> > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > REFRAIN 3

> > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > Show `em tricks tell `em jokes

> > > > > > > > And you'll only stop with top folks

> > > > > > > > Be a crack jackanapes

> > > > > > > > And they'll imitate you like apes

> > > > > > > > Why be a great composer with your rent in arrears?

> > > > > > > > Why be a major poet and you'll owe it for years?

> > > > > > > > When crowds'll pay to giggle if you wiggle your ears

> > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > REFRAIN 4

> > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > If you just make `em roar

> > > > > > > > Watch your mountebank soar

> > > > > > > > Wear a painted moustache

> > > > > > > > And you're sure to make a big splash

> > > > > > > > A college education I should never propose

> > > > > > > > A bachelor's degree won't even keep you in clo'es

> > > > > > > > But millions you will win if you can spin on your nose

> > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > REFRAIN 5

> > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > Be the poor silly ass

> > > > > > > > And you'll always travel first class

> > > > > > > > Give `em quips, give `em fun

> > > > > > > > And they'll apy and say you're A1

> > > > > > > > If you become a farmer you've the weather to buck

> > > > > > > > If you become a gambler you'll be stuck with your luck

> > > > > > > > But Jack you'll never lack if you can quack like a duck

> > > > > > > > (Quack, quack, quack, quack)

> > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > [Thanks to Meggyweggs@ for lyrics]

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > eh?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the best part about pretending to be a clown, is observing

> > > those who

> > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot alice! all the

> > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and believe they

> know or

> > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time missing the actual

> > > > jest; but,

> > > > > > > rianting aloud as if amused at some subtlety of nuance

that is

> > > their

> > > > > > > own projection. and all a clown can do at the sight is to

> smile.

> > > > life

> > > > > > > is a trick to be enjoyed!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > not very nice

> > > > > >

> > > > > > suggests an angry clown

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > no..the clown is not angry nor unangry, neither sad nor joyful.

> > he is

> > > > > not nice and he is not nasty. whatever the clown seems to

> > suggest, he

> > > > > reflects only what participants of the audience project, and

> > suggests

> > > > > nothing of himself. it's all one of the greatest of illusions.

> > and the

> > > > > trick is to enjoy the trick to be enjoyed. casting judgments

> on the

> > > > > demeanor or imagined intent of the entertainment is a personal

> > problem

> > > > > only. only the smile of the Cheshire Cat or the twinkle in the

> > eye of

> > > > > the clown, remain after the show....for both audience and

> master of

> > > > > ceremonies. a circus of infinite rings, and all circus acts play

> > their

> > > > > own Ringmaster for better or worse, happier or otherwise. no

> one has

> > > > > to go to the circus...even if it's the only game in town...some

> > > > > players both do an do not 'go' anywhere by their dance of

> quarks and

> > > > > excogitations in the swirling void. just smiles. suggests a

> > clown with

> > > > > a respectable grin but without an agenda.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > " a respectable grin but without an agenda "

> > > >

> > > > sounds like this clown

> > > >

> > > > changes horses in midstream:

> > >

> > > WRONG! read more carefully.

> > >

> > > > " the best part about pretending to be a clown, is observing

> those who

> > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot alice! all the

> > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and believe they know or

> > > > understand the clown, while all the time missing the actual jest "

> > > >

> > > > a pretty rock solid hidden agenda!

> > >

> > > the 'audience' is the party with the agenda. the clown merely

observes

> > > this unquestionable truth and smiles, without posing his beliefs

about

> > > what they are doing onto them, which is of course exactly and only

> > > what the clowns audience is doing, and further trying to

persuade that

> > > same clown that they are not doing, but that they have the

inside dope

> > > on the clowns 'motives', which in truth are not present in any way.

> > > the clown is motiveless.

> > >

> > > > (next he'll say, and rightly so, that " changing horses in

midstream "

> > > > is precisely what the clown is all about

> > >

> > > no. that is what you have said.

> > >

> > > > not just the clown

> > > >

> > > > not just the clown)

> > > >

> > >

> > > just you

> > >

> > > just you

> > >

> > > it's all just you

> > >

> > > .......and it's not between the lines.....

> >

> > will have to take your

> >

> > most reliabe word for it

> >

> > >

> >

> I'm untrustworthy....just like everyone and everything else. because

> one can never fulfill the trust of another. the only one that one can

> trust, is oneself...but one never does, while all the time saying that

> they do. no one can believe themselves. themselves is just too

> unbelievable. just so. love your neighbor as yourself, just as soon as

> you know who that is. and it's the booby-prize.it's the moonlight

> madness blue light special, on sale while riding on the magical

> mystery tour of the life. one must not believe anything one doesn't

> know fully and completely as an aspect of their own being. It's really

> not a big deal nor not much of 'thing' at all....it's groovy!

>

> .b

>

will have to take your

most reliabe word for it

but...

most probably know

The Liar Paradox:

As stated in the book of Paul in the Bible: " One of themselves, a

prophet oftheir own, said, 'Cretans are always liars. . . .' " (Titus

1:12)

Interpret this as a Cretan saying, " Everything a Cretan says is false. "

Is what the Cretan has said true or false?

is bob, therefore, a Cretan?

no, said A, he's just a French Canadian:

A: .b is a French Canadian. he says all French Canadians are liars.

But, he is a liar, and thus he is lying. If he is lying, French

Canadians are not liars and thus he is telling the truth.

I made a friend. he is called Steve. Steve is a duck.

B: Hi A, just so you know.

..b is neither lying, nor telling the truth.

He is merely making a false statement.

C: .b cannot be telling the truth as this would contradict the

statement that he himself (being French Canadian) is a liar

If .b is lying, this is acceptable as there are more possibilities

than just ALL are liars or NONE are liars.

He is lying that ALL are liars but SOME could be liars, of which he is

one, therefore cannot be assumed automatically to be telling the truth

&

Here's another andgle, for you & glers, and it pretty much sums up what

we're doing here @ Nis House (in case you're too lazy to read it all,

here's the punch line: " Indeed we are not even in the unpredictable

world of chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the

non-predictable, an altogether much more interesting place. " ):

" Do you remember the old philosophical paradox about lying Cretans? It

goes like this: all Cretans are liars, I am a Cretan, therefore I am

lying. Am I a Cretan? Before you get tied up in logical knots trying

to solve this paradoxical statement, let me give you a much more

interesting idea to play with. All Cretans, like the rest of us, can

lie: we can make things seem other than they are; we can tell stories;

we can invent new ways of understanding; we can lie. It is the process

of deception, making one thing stand for another, creating metaphors,

or inventing axioms that makes communication possible. The study of

signs and symbols, as Umberto Eco observes 'is in principle the

discipline studying everything which can be used in order to lie.'

(Eco, 1976).

" The fact that we can lie is another way of saying that we can play

the game by the rules, we can cheat, or we can invent new rules. We

owe this insight into the nature of communication—as a kind of game

with rules—to the enigmatic philosopher Wittgenstein (Wittgenstein,

1953). This insight explains why the old paradigm, based on the ideas

of cause and effect, did not work. People are not affected by

messages, that is altogether the wrong way to describe what happens.

People read messages using the range of rules they have available to

them and which seem appropriate at the time. So when we study

communication, we are studying rules made by people.

" This means that our research has moved out of the realm of the

predictable. Indeed we are not even in the unpredictable world of

chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the non-predictable,

an altogether much more interesting place. "

December 16, 2006

Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

<skywords@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> > <skywords@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Deus ex machina is a Latin phrase that is used to

> > > > describe an

> > > > > > > > > > > unexpected, artificial, or improbable character,

> > > device, or

> > > > > > event

> > > > > > > > > > > introduced suddenly in a work of fiction or drama to

> > > > resolve a

> > > > > > > > > > > situation or untangle a plot (e.g., having the

> > protagonist

> > > > > wake

> > > > > > > > up and

> > > > > > > > > > > realize it was all a dream, or an angel suddenly

> > > > appearing to

> > > > > > > solve

> > > > > > > > > > > all the plot problems of a story that the characters

> > > > can't or

> > > > > > > won't

> > > > > > > > > > > resolve on their own). The phrase has been

extended to

> > > refer

> > > > > > > to any

> > > > > > > > > > > resolution to a story which does not pay due regard

> > to the

> > > > > > story's

> > > > > > > > > > > internal logic and is so unlikely that it challenges

> > > > > > suspension of

> > > > > > > > > > > disbelief, allowing the author to conclude the story

> > > with an

> > > > > > > > unlikely,

> > > > > > > > > > > though more palatable, ending. In modern terms the

> > deus ex

> > > > > > > > machina has

> > > > > > > > > > > also come to describe a being, object or event that

> > > suddenly

> > > > > > > appears

> > > > > > > > > > > and solves a seemingly insoluble difficulty (e.

g. the

> > > > cavalry

> > > > > > > > > > > arriving). A classic example of this type of deus ex

> > > > > machina is

> > > > > > > > > > > Homer's Odyssey; a more contemporary example is

> Michael

> > > > > > > > Crichton's The

> > > > > > > > > > > Andromeda Strain. While in storytelling this might

> seem

> > > > > > > > unfulfilling,

> > > > > > > > > > > in real life this type of figure might be

welcome and

> > > > heroic,

> > > > > > > due to

> > > > > > > > > > > the low probability of such an event occurring.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It sometimes also can mean, usually in an

episode of a

> > > > > > sitcom, an

> > > > > > > > > > > event or plot device which does not necessarily

> > solve the

> > > > > > > > conflict of

> > > > > > > > > > > the plot, but demotes the character(s) into the

> > financial,

> > > > > > > > emotional,

> > > > > > > > > > > mental, or geographical state they were in when the

> > > episode

> > > > > > began,

> > > > > > > > > > > restoring the series' status quo in order to more

> easily

> > > > allow

> > > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > > > situation in the next episode. However, this usage,

> > > which is

> > > > > > > > somewhat

> > > > > > > > > > > different from classical deus ex machina, is more

> > commonly

> > > > > > > > called the

> > > > > > > > > > > " reset button technique " .

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The notion of deus ex machina can also be

applied to a

> > > > > > revelation

> > > > > > > > > > > within a story experienced by a character which

> > > involves the

> > > > > > > > > > > individual realizing that the complicated, sometimes

> > > > > perilous or

> > > > > > > > > > > mundane and perhaps seemingly unrelated sequence of

> > events

> > > > > > > > leading up

> > > > > > > > > > > to this point in the story are joined together

by some

> > > > > profound

> > > > > > > > > > > concept. Thus the unexpected and timely

> intervention is

> > > > aimed

> > > > > > > at the

> > > > > > > > > > > meaning of the story rather than a physical event

> in the

> > > > plot.

> > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > may more accurately be described as a plot twist.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The Greek tragedian Euripides is notorious for using

> > > > this plot

> > > > > > > > device.

> > > > > > > > > > > The first person known to have criticized the

> device was

> > > > > > > > Aristotle in

> > > > > > > > > > > his Poetics, where he argues that a good tragedy

must

> > > remain

> > > > > > > > > plausible.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > that's unbelievable.that's a tragedy! as unremainingly

> > > > > > > inplausible as

> > > > > > > > > > it seems. Ari always was sort of a party pooper. maybe

> > > > he'll be

> > > > > > > > > > different whenever he gets rebooted into windows.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > " be a clown, be a clown, "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > how does it go, bob?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > VERSE

> > > > > > > > > I'll remember forever,

> > > > > > > > > When I was but three,

> > > > > > > > > Mama, who was clever.

> > > > > > > > > Remarking to me….

> > > > > > > > > If son when you're grown up

> > > > > > > > > You want ev'rything nice

> > > > > > > > > I've got your future sewn up

> > > > > > > > > If you take this advice…

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 1

> > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > Act the fool play the calf

> > > > > > > > > And you'll always have the last laugh

> > > > > > > > > Wear the cap and the bells

> > > > > > > > > And you'll rate with all the best swells

> > > > > > > > > If you become a doctor, folks'll face you with dread

> > > > > > > > > If you become a dentist, they'll be glad when you're

dead

> > > > > > > > > You'll get a bigger hand if you can stand on your head

> > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 2

> > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > Be a crazy buffoon

> > > > > > > > > And the demoiselles'll all swoon

> > > > > > > > > Dress in huge baggy pants

> > > > > > > > > And you'll ride the road to romance

> > > > > > > > > A butcher or a baker ladies never embrace

> > > > > > > > > A barber or a beau would be a social disgrace

> > > > > > > > > They all'll come to call if you can fall on your face

> > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 3

> > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > Show `em tricks tell `em jokes

> > > > > > > > > And you'll only stop with top folks

> > > > > > > > > Be a crack jackanapes

> > > > > > > > > And they'll imitate you like apes

> > > > > > > > > Why be a great composer with your rent in arrears?

> > > > > > > > > Why be a major poet and you'll owe it for years?

> > > > > > > > > When crowds'll pay to giggle if you wiggle your ears

> > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 4

> > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > If you just make `em roar

> > > > > > > > > Watch your mountebank soar

> > > > > > > > > Wear a painted moustache

> > > > > > > > > And you're sure to make a big splash

> > > > > > > > > A college education I should never propose

> > > > > > > > > A bachelor's degree won't even keep you in clo'es

> > > > > > > > > But millions you will win if you can spin on your nose

> > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 5

> > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > Be the poor silly ass

> > > > > > > > > And you'll always travel first class

> > > > > > > > > Give `em quips, give `em fun

> > > > > > > > > And they'll apy and say you're A1

> > > > > > > > > If you become a farmer you've the weather to buck

> > > > > > > > > If you become a gambler you'll be stuck with your luck

> > > > > > > > > But Jack you'll never lack if you can quack like a duck

> > > > > > > > > (Quack, quack, quack, quack)

> > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Thanks to Meggyweggs@ for lyrics]

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > eh?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the best part about pretending to be a clown, is observing

> > > > those who

> > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot alice!

all the

> > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and believe they

> > know or

> > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time missing the

actual

> > > > > jest; but,

> > > > > > > > rianting aloud as if amused at some subtlety of nuance

> that is

> > > > their

> > > > > > > > own projection. and all a clown can do at the sight is to

> > smile.

> > > > > life

> > > > > > > > is a trick to be enjoyed!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .b

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > not very nice

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > suggests an angry clown

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > no..the clown is not angry nor unangry, neither sad nor

joyful.

> > > he is

> > > > > > not nice and he is not nasty. whatever the clown seems to

> > > suggest, he

> > > > > > reflects only what participants of the audience project, and

> > > suggests

> > > > > > nothing of himself. it's all one of the greatest of illusions.

> > > and the

> > > > > > trick is to enjoy the trick to be enjoyed. casting judgments

> > on the

> > > > > > demeanor or imagined intent of the entertainment is a personal

> > > problem

> > > > > > only. only the smile of the Cheshire Cat or the twinkle in the

> > > eye of

> > > > > > the clown, remain after the show....for both audience and

> > master of

> > > > > > ceremonies. a circus of infinite rings, and all circus

acts play

> > > their

> > > > > > own Ringmaster for better or worse, happier or otherwise. no

> > one has

> > > > > > to go to the circus...even if it's the only game in

town...some

> > > > > > players both do an do not 'go' anywhere by their dance of

> > quarks and

> > > > > > excogitations in the swirling void. just smiles. suggests a

> > > clown with

> > > > > > a respectable grin but without an agenda.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > " a respectable grin but without an agenda "

> > > > >

> > > > > sounds like this clown

> > > > >

> > > > > changes horses in midstream:

> > > >

> > > > WRONG! read more carefully.

> > > >

> > > > > " the best part about pretending to be a clown, is observing

> > those who

> > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot alice! all the

> > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and believe they know or

> > > > > understand the clown, while all the time missing the actual

jest "

> > > > >

> > > > > a pretty rock solid hidden agenda!

> > > >

> > > > the 'audience' is the party with the agenda. the clown merely

> observes

> > > > this unquestionable truth and smiles, without posing his beliefs

> about

> > > > what they are doing onto them, which is of course exactly and only

> > > > what the clowns audience is doing, and further trying to

> persuade that

> > > > same clown that they are not doing, but that they have the

> inside dope

> > > > on the clowns 'motives', which in truth are not present in any

way.

> > > > the clown is motiveless.

> > > >

> > > > > (next he'll say, and rightly so, that " changing horses in

> midstream "

> > > > > is precisely what the clown is all about

> > > >

> > > > no. that is what you have said.

> > > >

> > > > > not just the clown

> > > > >

> > > > > not just the clown)

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > just you

> > > >

> > > > just you

> > > >

> > > > it's all just you

> > > >

> > > > .......and it's not between the lines.....

> > >

> > > will have to take your

> > >

> > > most reliabe word for it

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > I'm untrustworthy....just like everyone and everything else. because

> > one can never fulfill the trust of another. the only one that one can

> > trust, is oneself...but one never does, while all the time saying that

> > they do. no one can believe themselves. themselves is just too

> > unbelievable. just so. love your neighbor as yourself, just as soon as

> > you know who that is. and it's the booby-prize.it's the moonlight

> > madness blue light special, on sale while riding on the magical

> > mystery tour of the life. one must not believe anything one doesn't

> > know fully and completely as an aspect of their own being. It's really

> > not a big deal nor not much of 'thing' at all....it's groovy!

> >

> > .b

> >

>

will have to take your

>

> most reliabe word for it

>

> but...

most probably know

>

> The Liar Paradox:

>

> As stated in the book of Paul in the Bible: " One of themselves, a

> prophet oftheir own, said, 'Cretans are always liars. . . .' " (Titus

> 1:12)

>

> Interpret this as a Cretan saying, " Everything a Cretan says is false. "

>

> Is what the Cretan has said true or false?

>

> is bob, therefore, a Cretan?

>

> no, said A, he's just a French Canadian:

>

> A: .b is a French Canadian. he says all French Canadians are liars.

> But, he is a liar, and thus he is lying. If he is lying, French

> Canadians are not liars and thus he is telling the truth.

>

> I made a friend. he is called Steve. Steve is a duck.

>

> B: Hi A, just so you know.

> .b is neither lying, nor telling the truth.

>

> He is merely making a false statement.

>

> C: .b cannot be telling the truth as this would contradict the

> statement that he himself (being French Canadian) is a liar

>

> If .b is lying, this is acceptable as there are more possibilities

> than just ALL are liars or NONE are liars.

>

> He is lying that ALL are liars but SOME could be liars, of which he is

> one, therefore cannot be assumed automatically to be telling the truth

>

> &

>

> Here's another andgle, for you & glers, and it pretty much sums up what

> we're doing here @ Nis House (in case you're too lazy to read it all,

> here's the punch line: " Indeed we are not even in the unpredictable

> world of chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the

> non-predictable, an altogether much more interesting place. " ):

>

> " Do you remember the old philosophical paradox about lying Cretans? It

> goes like this: all Cretans are liars, I am a Cretan, therefore I am

> lying. Am I a Cretan? Before you get tied up in logical knots trying

> to solve this paradoxical statement, let me give you a much more

> interesting idea to play with. All Cretans, like the rest of us, can

> lie: we can make things seem other than they are; we can tell stories;

> we can invent new ways of understanding; we can lie. It is the process

> of deception, making one thing stand for another, creating metaphors,

> or inventing axioms that makes communication possible. The study of

> signs and symbols, as Umberto Eco observes 'is in principle the

> discipline studying everything which can be used in order to lie.'

> (Eco, 1976).

>

> " The fact that we can lie is another way of saying that we can play

> the game by the rules, we can cheat, or we can invent new rules. We

> owe this insight into the nature of communication—as a kind of game

> with rules—to the enigmatic philosopher Wittgenstein (Wittgenstein,

> 1953). This insight explains why the old paradigm, based on the ideas

> of cause and effect, did not work. People are not affected by

> messages, that is altogether the wrong way to describe what happens.

> People read messages using the range of rules they have available to

> them and which seem appropriate at the time. So when we study

> communication, we are studying rules made by people.

>

> " This means that our research has moved out of the realm of the

> predictable. Indeed we are not even in the unpredictable world of

> chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the non-predictable,

> an altogether much more interesting place. "

>

it's right here, now. and you know it. you are it. you are home. and

home is never for a nano-micro-second of spacetime absent or

unattentive. you can't believe yourself. " maybe there is an invisible

hand that moves all selves to join and become one and.... " ,

....fundamentally you know better. you are truth... truth, reality, it,

I, them, there, and those. and the game is to pretend that you have

not only agreed to play the game, but that you set it up in the first

place. I'm vile this way. I'm you and he and she and it and you

probably don't believe me because you think that I am someone other

than yourself, who is the only one you can trust.. and you still have

the feeling that the fundamental self of you is lying somehow or

someway, and you gotta find some way out of this rat's nest

merry-go-round of noisome, nauseating...what????? what's the problem?

where are you going to go? what are you going to 'do' then (at

enlightenment, or fulfillment, or retirement, or upon meeting " The

One " ..woman, guru, financial adviser, or next really cool neat thing.

you will 'do' and 'go' exactly and only where you go and what you

do...just like now. but you get to skip over the pondering and

suffering and power need stuff. descriptions are invalid at this

point. and there is no such thing as lying or telling the truth..who

could do such a thing? and to whom would they speak? or what would

they speak? the paradox of paradoxes is that there really are no

paradoxes. but for an interesting logic type utilised by conceptual

activity, paradoxes are fantasy. well, then, everything and everybody

is as well. and it's the predictability of nonpredictability and the

nonpredictability of preductability that is the rub! it's a beautiful

thing!

.b

December 16, 2006

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> <skywords@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> > > <skywords@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Deus ex machina is a Latin phrase that is used to

> > > > > describe an

> > > > > > > > > > > > unexpected, artificial, or improbable character,

> > > > device, or

> > > > > > > event

> > > > > > > > > > > > introduced suddenly in a work of fiction or

drama to

> > > > > resolve a

> > > > > > > > > > > > situation or untangle a plot (e.g., having the

> > > protagonist

> > > > > > wake

> > > > > > > > > up and

> > > > > > > > > > > > realize it was all a dream, or an angel suddenly

> > > > > appearing to

> > > > > > > > solve

> > > > > > > > > > > > all the plot problems of a story that the

characters

> > > > > can't or

> > > > > > > > won't

> > > > > > > > > > > > resolve on their own). The phrase has been

> extended to

> > > > refer

> > > > > > > > to any

> > > > > > > > > > > > resolution to a story which does not pay due

regard

> > > to the

> > > > > > > story's

> > > > > > > > > > > > internal logic and is so unlikely that it

challenges

> > > > > > > suspension of

> > > > > > > > > > > > disbelief, allowing the author to conclude the

story

> > > > with an

> > > > > > > > > unlikely,

> > > > > > > > > > > > though more palatable, ending. In modern terms the

> > > deus ex

> > > > > > > > > machina has

> > > > > > > > > > > > also come to describe a being, object or event

that

> > > > suddenly

> > > > > > > > appears

> > > > > > > > > > > > and solves a seemingly insoluble difficulty (e.

> g. the

> > > > > cavalry

> > > > > > > > > > > > arriving). A classic example of this type of

deus ex

> > > > > > machina is

> > > > > > > > > > > > Homer's Odyssey; a more contemporary example is

> > Michael

> > > > > > > > > Crichton's The

> > > > > > > > > > > > Andromeda Strain. While in storytelling this might

> > seem

> > > > > > > > > unfulfilling,

> > > > > > > > > > > > in real life this type of figure might be

> welcome and

> > > > > heroic,

> > > > > > > > due to

> > > > > > > > > > > > the low probability of such an event occurring.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > It sometimes also can mean, usually in an

> episode of a

> > > > > > > sitcom, an

> > > > > > > > > > > > event or plot device which does not necessarily

> > > solve the

> > > > > > > > > conflict of

> > > > > > > > > > > > the plot, but demotes the character(s) into the

> > > financial,

> > > > > > > > > emotional,

> > > > > > > > > > > > mental, or geographical state they were in

when the

> > > > episode

> > > > > > > began,

> > > > > > > > > > > > restoring the series' status quo in order to more

> > easily

> > > > > allow

> > > > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > > > > situation in the next episode. However, this

usage,

> > > > which is

> > > > > > > > > somewhat

> > > > > > > > > > > > different from classical deus ex machina, is more

> > > commonly

> > > > > > > > > called the

> > > > > > > > > > > > " reset button technique " .

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > The notion of deus ex machina can also be

> applied to a

> > > > > > > revelation

> > > > > > > > > > > > within a story experienced by a character which

> > > > involves the

> > > > > > > > > > > > individual realizing that the complicated,

sometimes

> > > > > > perilous or

> > > > > > > > > > > > mundane and perhaps seemingly unrelated

sequence of

> > > events

> > > > > > > > > leading up

> > > > > > > > > > > > to this point in the story are joined together

> by some

> > > > > > profound

> > > > > > > > > > > > concept. Thus the unexpected and timely

> > intervention is

> > > > > aimed

> > > > > > > > at the

> > > > > > > > > > > > meaning of the story rather than a physical event

> > in the

> > > > > plot.

> > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > > may more accurately be described as a plot twist.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > The Greek tragedian Euripides is notorious for

using

> > > > > this plot

> > > > > > > > > device.

> > > > > > > > > > > > The first person known to have criticized the

> > device was

> > > > > > > > > Aristotle in

> > > > > > > > > > > > his Poetics, where he argues that a good tragedy

> must

> > > > remain

> > > > > > > > > > plausible.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > that's unbelievable.that's a tragedy! as

unremainingly

> > > > > > > > inplausible as

> > > > > > > > > > > it seems. Ari always was sort of a party pooper.

maybe

> > > > > he'll be

> > > > > > > > > > > different whenever he gets rebooted into windows.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > " be a clown, be a clown, "

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > how does it go, bob?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > VERSE

> > > > > > > > > > I'll remember forever,

> > > > > > > > > > When I was but three,

> > > > > > > > > > Mama, who was clever.

> > > > > > > > > > Remarking to me….

> > > > > > > > > > If son when you're grown up

> > > > > > > > > > You want ev'rything nice

> > > > > > > > > > I've got your future sewn up

> > > > > > > > > > If you take this advice…

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 1

> > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > Act the fool play the calf

> > > > > > > > > > And you'll always have the last laugh

> > > > > > > > > > Wear the cap and the bells

> > > > > > > > > > And you'll rate with all the best swells

> > > > > > > > > > If you become a doctor, folks'll face you with dread

> > > > > > > > > > If you become a dentist, they'll be glad when you're

> dead

> > > > > > > > > > You'll get a bigger hand if you can stand on your head

> > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 2

> > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > Be a crazy buffoon

> > > > > > > > > > And the demoiselles'll all swoon

> > > > > > > > > > Dress in huge baggy pants

> > > > > > > > > > And you'll ride the road to romance

> > > > > > > > > > A butcher or a baker ladies never embrace

> > > > > > > > > > A barber or a beau would be a social disgrace

> > > > > > > > > > They all'll come to call if you can fall on your face

> > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 3

> > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > Show `em tricks tell `em jokes

> > > > > > > > > > And you'll only stop with top folks

> > > > > > > > > > Be a crack jackanapes

> > > > > > > > > > And they'll imitate you like apes

> > > > > > > > > > Why be a great composer with your rent in arrears?

> > > > > > > > > > Why be a major poet and you'll owe it for years?

> > > > > > > > > > When crowds'll pay to giggle if you wiggle your ears

> > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 4

> > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > If you just make `em roar

> > > > > > > > > > Watch your mountebank soar

> > > > > > > > > > Wear a painted moustache

> > > > > > > > > > And you're sure to make a big splash

> > > > > > > > > > A college education I should never propose

> > > > > > > > > > A bachelor's degree won't even keep you in clo'es

> > > > > > > > > > But millions you will win if you can spin on your nose

> > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 5

> > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > Be the poor silly ass

> > > > > > > > > > And you'll always travel first class

> > > > > > > > > > Give `em quips, give `em fun

> > > > > > > > > > And they'll apy and say you're A1

> > > > > > > > > > If you become a farmer you've the weather to buck

> > > > > > > > > > If you become a gambler you'll be stuck with your luck

> > > > > > > > > > But Jack you'll never lack if you can quack like a

duck

> > > > > > > > > > (Quack, quack, quack, quack)

> > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > [Thanks to Meggyweggs@ for lyrics]

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > eh?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the best part about pretending to be a clown, is

observing

> > > > > those who

> > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot alice!

> all the

> > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and believe they

> > > know or

> > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time missing the

> actual

> > > > > > jest; but,

> > > > > > > > > rianting aloud as if amused at some subtlety of nuance

> > that is

> > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > own projection. and all a clown can do at the sight

is to

> > > smile.

> > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > is a trick to be enjoyed!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .b

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > not very nice

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > suggests an angry clown

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > no..the clown is not angry nor unangry, neither sad nor

> joyful.

> > > > he is

> > > > > > > not nice and he is not nasty. whatever the clown seems to

> > > > suggest, he

> > > > > > > reflects only what participants of the audience project, and

> > > > suggests

> > > > > > > nothing of himself. it's all one of the greatest of

illusions.

> > > > and the

> > > > > > > trick is to enjoy the trick to be enjoyed. casting judgments

> > > on the

> > > > > > > demeanor or imagined intent of the entertainment is a

personal

> > > > problem

> > > > > > > only. only the smile of the Cheshire Cat or the twinkle

in the

> > > > eye of

> > > > > > > the clown, remain after the show....for both audience and

> > > master of

> > > > > > > ceremonies. a circus of infinite rings, and all circus

> acts play

> > > > their

> > > > > > > own Ringmaster for better or worse, happier or otherwise. no

> > > one has

> > > > > > > to go to the circus...even if it's the only game in

> town...some

> > > > > > > players both do an do not 'go' anywhere by their dance of

> > > quarks and

> > > > > > > excogitations in the swirling void. just smiles. suggests a

> > > > clown with

> > > > > > > a respectable grin but without an agenda.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " a respectable grin but without an agenda "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sounds like this clown

> > > > > >

> > > > > > changes horses in midstream:

> > > > >

> > > > > WRONG! read more carefully.

> > > > >

> > > > > > " the best part about pretending to be a clown, is observing

> > > those who

> > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot alice! all the

> > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and believe they

know or

> > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time missing the actual

> jest "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a pretty rock solid hidden agenda!

> > > > >

> > > > > the 'audience' is the party with the agenda. the clown merely

> > observes

> > > > > this unquestionable truth and smiles, without posing his beliefs

> > about

> > > > > what they are doing onto them, which is of course exactly

and only

> > > > > what the clowns audience is doing, and further trying to

> > persuade that

> > > > > same clown that they are not doing, but that they have the

> > inside dope

> > > > > on the clowns 'motives', which in truth are not present in any

> way.

> > > > > the clown is motiveless.

> > > > >

> > > > > > (next he'll say, and rightly so, that " changing horses in

> > midstream "

> > > > > > is precisely what the clown is all about

> > > > >

> > > > > no. that is what you have said.

> > > > >

> > > > > > not just the clown

> > > > > >

> > > > > > not just the clown)

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > just you

> > > > >

> > > > > just you

> > > > >

> > > > > it's all just you

> > > > >

> > > > > .......and it's not between the lines.....

> > > >

> > > > will have to take your

> > > >

> > > > most reliabe word for it

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > I'm untrustworthy....just like everyone and everything else. because

> > > one can never fulfill the trust of another. the only one that

one can

> > > trust, is oneself...but one never does, while all the time

saying that

> > > they do. no one can believe themselves. themselves is just too

> > > unbelievable. just so. love your neighbor as yourself, just as

soon as

> > > you know who that is. and it's the booby-prize.it's the moonlight

> > > madness blue light special, on sale while riding on the magical

> > > mystery tour of the life. one must not believe anything one doesn't

> > > know fully and completely as an aspect of their own being. It's

really

> > > not a big deal nor not much of 'thing' at all....it's groovy!

> > >

> > > .b

> > >

> >

> > will have to take your

> >

> > most reliabe word for it

> >

> > but...

> >

> > most probably know

> >

> > The Liar Paradox:

> >

> > As stated in the book of Paul in the Bible: " One of themselves, a

> > prophet oftheir own, said, 'Cretans are always liars. . . .' " (Titus

> > 1:12)

> >

> > Interpret this as a Cretan saying, " Everything a Cretan says is

false. "

> >

> > Is what the Cretan has said true or false?

> >

> > is bob, therefore, a Cretan?

> >

> > no, said A, he's just a French Canadian:

> >

> > A: .b is a French Canadian. he says all French Canadians are liars.

> > But, he is a liar, and thus he is lying. If he is lying, French

> > Canadians are not liars and thus he is telling the truth.

> >

> > I made a friend. he is called Steve. Steve is a duck.

> >

> > B: Hi A, just so you know.

> > .b is neither lying, nor telling the truth.

> >

> > He is merely making a false statement.

> >

> > C: .b cannot be telling the truth as this would contradict the

> > statement that he himself (being French Canadian) is a liar

> >

> > If .b is lying, this is acceptable as there are more possibilities

> > than just ALL are liars or NONE are liars.

> >

> > He is lying that ALL are liars but SOME could be liars, of which he is

> > one, therefore cannot be assumed automatically to be telling the truth

> >

> > &

> >

> > Here's another andgle, for you & glers, and it pretty much sums up what

> > we're doing here @ Nis House (in case you're too lazy to read it all,

> > here's the punch line: " Indeed we are not even in the unpredictable

> > world of chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the

> > non-predictable, an altogether much more interesting place. " ):

> >

> > " Do you remember the old philosophical paradox about lying Cretans? It

> > goes like this: all Cretans are liars, I am a Cretan, therefore I am

> > lying. Am I a Cretan? Before you get tied up in logical knots trying

> > to solve this paradoxical statement, let me give you a much more

> > interesting idea to play with. All Cretans, like the rest of us, can

> > lie: we can make things seem other than they are; we can tell stories;

> > we can invent new ways of understanding; we can lie. It is the process

> > of deception, making one thing stand for another, creating metaphors,

> > or inventing axioms that makes communication possible. The study of

> > signs and symbols, as Umberto Eco observes 'is in principle the

> > discipline studying everything which can be used in order to lie.'

> > (Eco, 1976).

> >

> > " The fact that we can lie is another way of saying that we can play

> > the game by the rules, we can cheat, or we can invent new rules. We

> > owe this insight into the nature of communication—as a kind of game

> > with rules—to the enigmatic philosopher Wittgenstein (Wittgenstein,

> > 1953). This insight explains why the old paradigm, based on the ideas

> > of cause and effect, did not work. People are not affected by

> > messages, that is altogether the wrong way to describe what happens.

> > People read messages using the range of rules they have available to

> > them and which seem appropriate at the time. So when we study

> > communication, we are studying rules made by people.

> >

> > " This means that our research has moved out of the realm of the

> > predictable. Indeed we are not even in the unpredictable world of

> > chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the non-predictable,

> > an altogether much more interesting place. "

> >

> it's right here, now. and you know it. you are it. you are home. and

> home is never for a nano-micro-second of spacetime absent or

> unattentive. you can't believe yourself. " maybe there is an invisible

> hand that moves all selves to join and become one and.... " ,

> ...fundamentally you know better. you are truth... truth, reality, it,

> I, them, there, and those. and the game is to pretend that you have

> not only agreed to play the game, but that you set it up in the first

> place. I'm vile this way. I'm you and he and she and it and you

> probably don't believe me because you think that I am someone other

> than yourself, who is the only one you can trust.. and you still have

> the feeling that the fundamental self of you is lying somehow or

> someway, and you gotta find some way out of this rat's nest

> merry-go-round of noisome, nauseating...what????? what's the problem?

> where are you going to go? what are you going to 'do' then (at

> enlightenment, or fulfillment, or retirement, or upon meeting " The

> One " ..woman, guru, financial adviser, or next really cool neat thing.

> you will 'do' and 'go' exactly and only where you go and what you

> do...just like now. but you get to skip over the pondering and

> suffering and power need stuff. descriptions are invalid at this

> point. and there is no such thing as lying or telling the truth..who

> could do such a thing? and to whom would they speak? or what would

> they speak? the paradox of paradoxes is that there really are no

> paradoxes. but for an interesting logic type utilised by conceptual

> activity, paradoxes are fantasy. well, then, everything and everybody

> is as well. and it's the predictability of nonpredictability and the

> nonpredictability of preductability that is the rub! it's a beautiful

> thing!

>

> .b

>

we'll take your

word for it

December 16, 2006

Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

<skywords@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> > <skywords@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> > > > <skywords@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Deus ex machina is a Latin phrase that is

used to

> > > > > > describe an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > unexpected, artificial, or improbable character,

> > > > > device, or

> > > > > > > > event

> > > > > > > > > > > > > introduced suddenly in a work of fiction or

> drama to

> > > > > > resolve a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > situation or untangle a plot (e.g., having the

> > > > protagonist

> > > > > > > wake

> > > > > > > > > > up and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > realize it was all a dream, or an angel suddenly

> > > > > > appearing to

> > > > > > > > > solve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > all the plot problems of a story that the

> characters

> > > > > > can't or

> > > > > > > > > won't

> > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve on their own). The phrase has been

> > extended to

> > > > > refer

> > > > > > > > > to any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > resolution to a story which does not pay due

> regard

> > > > to the

> > > > > > > > story's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > internal logic and is so unlikely that it

> challenges

> > > > > > > > suspension of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > disbelief, allowing the author to conclude the

> story

> > > > > with an

> > > > > > > > > > unlikely,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > though more palatable, ending. In modern

terms the

> > > > deus ex

> > > > > > > > > > machina has

> > > > > > > > > > > > > also come to describe a being, object or event

> that

> > > > > suddenly

> > > > > > > > > appears

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and solves a seemingly insoluble difficulty (e.

> > g. the

> > > > > > cavalry

> > > > > > > > > > > > > arriving). A classic example of this type of

> deus ex

> > > > > > > machina is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Homer's Odyssey; a more contemporary example is

> > > Michael

> > > > > > > > > > Crichton's The

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Andromeda Strain. While in storytelling this

might

> > > seem

> > > > > > > > > > unfulfilling,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > in real life this type of figure might be

> > welcome and

> > > > > > heroic,

> > > > > > > > > due to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the low probability of such an event occurring.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It sometimes also can mean, usually in an

> > episode of a

> > > > > > > > sitcom, an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > event or plot device which does not necessarily

> > > > solve the

> > > > > > > > > > conflict of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the plot, but demotes the character(s) into the

> > > > financial,

> > > > > > > > > > emotional,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mental, or geographical state they were in

> when the

> > > > > episode

> > > > > > > > began,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > restoring the series' status quo in order to

more

> > > easily

> > > > > > allow

> > > > > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > > > > > situation in the next episode. However, this

> usage,

> > > > > which is

> > > > > > > > > > somewhat

> > > > > > > > > > > > > different from classical deus ex machina, is

more

> > > > commonly

> > > > > > > > > > called the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > " reset button technique " .

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The notion of deus ex machina can also be

> > applied to a

> > > > > > > > revelation

> > > > > > > > > > > > > within a story experienced by a character which

> > > > > involves the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > individual realizing that the complicated,

> sometimes

> > > > > > > perilous or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mundane and perhaps seemingly unrelated

> sequence of

> > > > events

> > > > > > > > > > leading up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to this point in the story are joined together

> > by some

> > > > > > > profound

> > > > > > > > > > > > > concept. Thus the unexpected and timely

> > > intervention is

> > > > > > aimed

> > > > > > > > > at the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning of the story rather than a physical

event

> > > in the

> > > > > > plot.

> > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > may more accurately be described as a plot

twist.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The Greek tragedian Euripides is notorious for

> using

> > > > > > this plot

> > > > > > > > > > device.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The first person known to have criticized the

> > > device was

> > > > > > > > > > Aristotle in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > his Poetics, where he argues that a good tragedy

> > must

> > > > > remain

> > > > > > > > > > > plausible.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > that's unbelievable.that's a tragedy! as

> unremainingly

> > > > > > > > > inplausible as

> > > > > > > > > > > > it seems. Ari always was sort of a party pooper.

> maybe

> > > > > > he'll be

> > > > > > > > > > > > different whenever he gets rebooted into windows.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > " be a clown, be a clown, "

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > how does it go, bob?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > VERSE

> > > > > > > > > > > I'll remember forever,

> > > > > > > > > > > When I was but three,

> > > > > > > > > > > Mama, who was clever.

> > > > > > > > > > > Remarking to me….

> > > > > > > > > > > If son when you're grown up

> > > > > > > > > > > You want ev'rything nice

> > > > > > > > > > > I've got your future sewn up

> > > > > > > > > > > If you take this advice…

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 1

> > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > Act the fool play the calf

> > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always have the last laugh

> > > > > > > > > > > Wear the cap and the bells

> > > > > > > > > > > And you'll rate with all the best swells

> > > > > > > > > > > If you become a doctor, folks'll face you with dread

> > > > > > > > > > > If you become a dentist, they'll be glad when you're

> > dead

> > > > > > > > > > > You'll get a bigger hand if you can stand on

your head

> > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 2

> > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > Be a crazy buffoon

> > > > > > > > > > > And the demoiselles'll all swoon

> > > > > > > > > > > Dress in huge baggy pants

> > > > > > > > > > > And you'll ride the road to romance

> > > > > > > > > > > A butcher or a baker ladies never embrace

> > > > > > > > > > > A barber or a beau would be a social disgrace

> > > > > > > > > > > They all'll come to call if you can fall on your

face

> > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 3

> > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > Show `em tricks tell `em jokes

> > > > > > > > > > > And you'll only stop with top folks

> > > > > > > > > > > Be a crack jackanapes

> > > > > > > > > > > And they'll imitate you like apes

> > > > > > > > > > > Why be a great composer with your rent in arrears?

> > > > > > > > > > > Why be a major poet and you'll owe it for years?

> > > > > > > > > > > When crowds'll pay to giggle if you wiggle your ears

> > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 4

> > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > If you just make `em roar

> > > > > > > > > > > Watch your mountebank soar

> > > > > > > > > > > Wear a painted moustache

> > > > > > > > > > > And you're sure to make a big splash

> > > > > > > > > > > A college education I should never propose

> > > > > > > > > > > A bachelor's degree won't even keep you in clo'es

> > > > > > > > > > > But millions you will win if you can spin on

your nose

> > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 5

> > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > Be the poor silly ass

> > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always travel first class

> > > > > > > > > > > Give `em quips, give `em fun

> > > > > > > > > > > And they'll apy and say you're A1

> > > > > > > > > > > If you become a farmer you've the weather to buck

> > > > > > > > > > > If you become a gambler you'll be stuck with

your luck

> > > > > > > > > > > But Jack you'll never lack if you can quack like a

> duck

> > > > > > > > > > > (Quack, quack, quack, quack)

> > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > [Thanks to Meggyweggs@ for lyrics]

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > eh?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the best part about pretending to be a clown, is

> observing

> > > > > > those who

> > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot alice!

> > all the

> > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and believe

they

> > > > know or

> > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time missing the

> > actual

> > > > > > > jest; but,

> > > > > > > > > > rianting aloud as if amused at some subtlety of nuance

> > > that is

> > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > own projection. and all a clown can do at the sight

> is to

> > > > smile.

> > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > is a trick to be enjoyed!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > .b

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > not very nice

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > suggests an angry clown

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > no..the clown is not angry nor unangry, neither sad nor

> > joyful.

> > > > > he is

> > > > > > > > not nice and he is not nasty. whatever the clown seems to

> > > > > suggest, he

> > > > > > > > reflects only what participants of the audience

project, and

> > > > > suggests

> > > > > > > > nothing of himself. it's all one of the greatest of

> illusions.

> > > > > and the

> > > > > > > > trick is to enjoy the trick to be enjoyed. casting

judgments

> > > > on the

> > > > > > > > demeanor or imagined intent of the entertainment is a

> personal

> > > > > problem

> > > > > > > > only. only the smile of the Cheshire Cat or the twinkle

> in the

> > > > > eye of

> > > > > > > > the clown, remain after the show....for both audience and

> > > > master of

> > > > > > > > ceremonies. a circus of infinite rings, and all circus

> > acts play

> > > > > their

> > > > > > > > own Ringmaster for better or worse, happier or

otherwise. no

> > > > one has

> > > > > > > > to go to the circus...even if it's the only game in

> > town...some

> > > > > > > > players both do an do not 'go' anywhere by their dance of

> > > > quarks and

> > > > > > > > excogitations in the swirling void. just smiles.

suggests a

> > > > > clown with

> > > > > > > > a respectable grin but without an agenda.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " a respectable grin but without an agenda "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sounds like this clown

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > changes horses in midstream:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > WRONG! read more carefully.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > " the best part about pretending to be a clown, is observing

> > > > those who

> > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot alice! all the

> > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and believe they

> know or

> > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time missing the actual

> > jest "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > a pretty rock solid hidden agenda!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the 'audience' is the party with the agenda. the clown merely

> > > observes

> > > > > > this unquestionable truth and smiles, without posing his

beliefs

> > > about

> > > > > > what they are doing onto them, which is of course exactly

> and only

> > > > > > what the clowns audience is doing, and further trying to

> > > persuade that

> > > > > > same clown that they are not doing, but that they have the

> > > inside dope

> > > > > > on the clowns 'motives', which in truth are not present in any

> > way.

> > > > > > the clown is motiveless.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > (next he'll say, and rightly so, that " changing horses in

> > > midstream "

> > > > > > > is precisely what the clown is all about

> > > > > >

> > > > > > no. that is what you have said.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > not just the clown

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > not just the clown)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > just you

> > > > > >

> > > > > > just you

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it's all just you

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .......and it's not between the lines.....

> > > > >

> > > > > will have to take your

> > > > >

> > > > > most reliabe word for it

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > I'm untrustworthy....just like everyone and everything else.

because

> > > > one can never fulfill the trust of another. the only one that

> one can

> > > > trust, is oneself...but one never does, while all the time

> saying that

> > > > they do. no one can believe themselves. themselves is just too

> > > > unbelievable. just so. love your neighbor as yourself, just as

> soon as

> > > > you know who that is. and it's the booby-prize.it's the moonlight

> > > > madness blue light special, on sale while riding on the magical

> > > > mystery tour of the life. one must not believe anything one

doesn't

> > > > know fully and completely as an aspect of their own being. It's

> really

> > > > not a big deal nor not much of 'thing' at all....it's groovy!

> > > >

> > > > .b

> > > >

> > >

> > > will have to take your

> > >

> > > most reliabe word for it

> > >

> > > but...

> > >

> > > most probably know

> > >

> > > The Liar Paradox:

> > >

> > > As stated in the book of Paul in the Bible: " One of themselves, a

> > > prophet oftheir own, said, 'Cretans are always liars. . . .' " (Titus

> > > 1:12)

> > >

> > > Interpret this as a Cretan saying, " Everything a Cretan says is

> false. "

> > >

> > > Is what the Cretan has said true or false?

> > >

> > > is bob, therefore, a Cretan?

> > >

> > > no, said A, he's just a French Canadian:

> > >

> > > A: .b is a French Canadian. he says all French Canadians are liars.

> > > But, he is a liar, and thus he is lying. If he is lying, French

> > > Canadians are not liars and thus he is telling the truth.

> > >

> > > I made a friend. he is called Steve. Steve is a duck.

> > >

> > > B: Hi A, just so you know.

> > > .b is neither lying, nor telling the truth.

> > >

> > > He is merely making a false statement.

> > >

> > > C: .b cannot be telling the truth as this would contradict the

> > > statement that he himself (being French Canadian) is a liar

> > >

> > > If .b is lying, this is acceptable as there are more possibilities

> > > than just ALL are liars or NONE are liars.

> > >

> > > He is lying that ALL are liars but SOME could be liars, of which

he is

> > > one, therefore cannot be assumed automatically to be telling the

truth

> > >

> > > &

> > >

> > > Here's another andgle, for you & glers, and it pretty much sums

up what

> > > we're doing here @ Nis House (in case you're too lazy to read it

all,

> > > here's the punch line: " Indeed we are not even in the unpredictable

> > > world of chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the

> > > non-predictable, an altogether much more interesting place. " ):

> > >

> > > " Do you remember the old philosophical paradox about lying

Cretans? It

> > > goes like this: all Cretans are liars, I am a Cretan, therefore I am

> > > lying. Am I a Cretan? Before you get tied up in logical knots trying

> > > to solve this paradoxical statement, let me give you a much more

> > > interesting idea to play with. All Cretans, like the rest of us, can

> > > lie: we can make things seem other than they are; we can tell

stories;

> > > we can invent new ways of understanding; we can lie. It is the

process

> > > of deception, making one thing stand for another, creating

metaphors,

> > > or inventing axioms that makes communication possible. The study of

> > > signs and symbols, as Umberto Eco observes 'is in principle the

> > > discipline studying everything which can be used in order to lie.'

> > > (Eco, 1976).

> > >

> > > " The fact that we can lie is another way of saying that we can play

> > > the game by the rules, we can cheat, or we can invent new rules. We

> > > owe this insight into the nature of communication—as a kind of game

> > > with rules—to the enigmatic philosopher Wittgenstein (Wittgenstein,

> > > 1953). This insight explains why the old paradigm, based on the

ideas

> > > of cause and effect, did not work. People are not affected by

> > > messages, that is altogether the wrong way to describe what happens.

> > > People read messages using the range of rules they have available to

> > > them and which seem appropriate at the time. So when we study

> > > communication, we are studying rules made by people.

> > >

> > > " This means that our research has moved out of the realm of the

> > > predictable. Indeed we are not even in the unpredictable world of

> > > chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the non-predictable,

> > > an altogether much more interesting place. "

> > >

> > it's right here, now. and you know it. you are it. you are home. and

> > home is never for a nano-micro-second of spacetime absent or

> > unattentive. you can't believe yourself. " maybe there is an invisible

> > hand that moves all selves to join and become one and.... " ,

> > ...fundamentally you know better. you are truth... truth, reality, it,

> > I, them, there, and those. and the game is to pretend that you have

> > not only agreed to play the game, but that you set it up in the first

> > place. I'm vile this way. I'm you and he and she and it and you

> > probably don't believe me because you think that I am someone other

> > than yourself, who is the only one you can trust.. and you still have

> > the feeling that the fundamental self of you is lying somehow or

> > someway, and you gotta find some way out of this rat's nest

> > merry-go-round of noisome, nauseating...what????? what's the problem?

> > where are you going to go? what are you going to 'do' then (at

> > enlightenment, or fulfillment, or retirement, or upon meeting " The

> > One " ..woman, guru, financial adviser, or next really cool neat thing.

> > you will 'do' and 'go' exactly and only where you go and what you

> > do...just like now. but you get to skip over the pondering and

> > suffering and power need stuff. descriptions are invalid at this

> > point. and there is no such thing as lying or telling the truth..who

> > could do such a thing? and to whom would they speak? or what would

> > they speak? the paradox of paradoxes is that there really are no

> > paradoxes. but for an interesting logic type utilised by conceptual

> > activity, paradoxes are fantasy. well, then, everything and everybody

> > is as well. and it's the predictability of nonpredictability and the

> > nonpredictability of preductability that is the rub! it's a beautiful

> > thing!

> >

> > .b

> >

we'll take your

>

> word for it

>

you had no choice.

December 16, 2006

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> <skywords@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> > > <skywords@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta ,

" roberibus111 "

> > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> > > > > <skywords@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deus ex machina is a Latin phrase that is

> used to

> > > > > > > describe an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > unexpected, artificial, or improbable

character,

> > > > > > device, or

> > > > > > > > > event

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > introduced suddenly in a work of fiction or

> > drama to

> > > > > > > resolve a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation or untangle a plot (e.g., having the

> > > > > protagonist

> > > > > > > > wake

> > > > > > > > > > > up and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > realize it was all a dream, or an angel

suddenly

> > > > > > > appearing to

> > > > > > > > > > solve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the plot problems of a story that the

> > characters

> > > > > > > can't or

> > > > > > > > > > won't

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve on their own). The phrase has been

> > > extended to

> > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > > > > to any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolution to a story which does not pay due

> > regard

> > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > > story's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > internal logic and is so unlikely that it

> > challenges

> > > > > > > > > suspension of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > disbelief, allowing the author to conclude the

> > story

> > > > > > with an

> > > > > > > > > > > unlikely,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > though more palatable, ending. In modern

> terms the

> > > > > deus ex

> > > > > > > > > > > machina has

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > also come to describe a being, object or event

> > that

> > > > > > suddenly

> > > > > > > > > > appears

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and solves a seemingly insoluble

difficulty (e.

> > > g. the

> > > > > > > cavalry

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > arriving). A classic example of this type of

> > deus ex

> > > > > > > > machina is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Homer's Odyssey; a more contemporary

example is

> > > > Michael

> > > > > > > > > > > Crichton's The

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andromeda Strain. While in storytelling this

> might

> > > > seem

> > > > > > > > > > > unfulfilling,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in real life this type of figure might be

> > > welcome and

> > > > > > > heroic,

> > > > > > > > > > due to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the low probability of such an event

occurring.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It sometimes also can mean, usually in an

> > > episode of a

> > > > > > > > > sitcom, an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > event or plot device which does not

necessarily

> > > > > solve the

> > > > > > > > > > > conflict of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the plot, but demotes the character(s)

into the

> > > > > financial,

> > > > > > > > > > > emotional,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mental, or geographical state they were in

> > when the

> > > > > > episode

> > > > > > > > > began,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > restoring the series' status quo in order to

> more

> > > > easily

> > > > > > > allow

> > > > > > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation in the next episode. However, this

> > usage,

> > > > > > which is

> > > > > > > > > > > somewhat

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > different from classical deus ex machina, is

> more

> > > > > commonly

> > > > > > > > > > > called the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " reset button technique " .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The notion of deus ex machina can also be

> > > applied to a

> > > > > > > > > revelation

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > within a story experienced by a character

which

> > > > > > involves the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > individual realizing that the complicated,

> > sometimes

> > > > > > > > perilous or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mundane and perhaps seemingly unrelated

> > sequence of

> > > > > events

> > > > > > > > > > > leading up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to this point in the story are joined together

> > > by some

> > > > > > > > profound

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > concept. Thus the unexpected and timely

> > > > intervention is

> > > > > > > aimed

> > > > > > > > > > at the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning of the story rather than a physical

> event

> > > > in the

> > > > > > > plot.

> > > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > may more accurately be described as a plot

> twist.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Greek tragedian Euripides is notorious for

> > using

> > > > > > > this plot

> > > > > > > > > > > device.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first person known to have criticized the

> > > > device was

> > > > > > > > > > > Aristotle in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Poetics, where he argues that a good

tragedy

> > > must

> > > > > > remain

> > > > > > > > > > > > plausible.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that's unbelievable.that's a tragedy! as

> > unremainingly

> > > > > > > > > > inplausible as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it seems. Ari always was sort of a party pooper.

> > maybe

> > > > > > > he'll be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > different whenever he gets rebooted into

windows.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > " be a clown, be a clown, "

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > how does it go, bob?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > VERSE

> > > > > > > > > > > > I'll remember forever,

> > > > > > > > > > > > When I was but three,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mama, who was clever.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Remarking to me….

> > > > > > > > > > > > If son when you're grown up

> > > > > > > > > > > > You want ev'rything nice

> > > > > > > > > > > > I've got your future sewn up

> > > > > > > > > > > > If you take this advice…

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 1

> > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > Act the fool play the calf

> > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always have the last laugh

> > > > > > > > > > > > Wear the cap and the bells

> > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll rate with all the best swells

> > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a doctor, folks'll face you with

dread

> > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a dentist, they'll be glad when

you're

> > > dead

> > > > > > > > > > > > You'll get a bigger hand if you can stand on

> your head

> > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 2

> > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crazy buffoon

> > > > > > > > > > > > And the demoiselles'll all swoon

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dress in huge baggy pants

> > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll ride the road to romance

> > > > > > > > > > > > A butcher or a baker ladies never embrace

> > > > > > > > > > > > A barber or a beau would be a social disgrace

> > > > > > > > > > > > They all'll come to call if you can fall on your

> face

> > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 3

> > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > Show `em tricks tell `em jokes

> > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll only stop with top folks

> > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crack jackanapes

> > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll imitate you like apes

> > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a great composer with your rent in arrears?

> > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a major poet and you'll owe it for years?

> > > > > > > > > > > > When crowds'll pay to giggle if you wiggle

your ears

> > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 4

> > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > If you just make `em roar

> > > > > > > > > > > > Watch your mountebank soar

> > > > > > > > > > > > Wear a painted moustache

> > > > > > > > > > > > And you're sure to make a big splash

> > > > > > > > > > > > A college education I should never propose

> > > > > > > > > > > > A bachelor's degree won't even keep you in clo'es

> > > > > > > > > > > > But millions you will win if you can spin on

> your nose

> > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 5

> > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > Be the poor silly ass

> > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always travel first class

> > > > > > > > > > > > Give `em quips, give `em fun

> > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll apy and say you're A1

> > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a farmer you've the weather to buck

> > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a gambler you'll be stuck with

> your luck

> > > > > > > > > > > > But Jack you'll never lack if you can quack like a

> > duck

> > > > > > > > > > > > (Quack, quack, quack, quack)

> > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > [Thanks to Meggyweggs@ for lyrics]

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > eh?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > the best part about pretending to be a clown, is

> > observing

> > > > > > > those who

> > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot alice!

> > > all the

> > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and believe

> they

> > > > > know or

> > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time missing the

> > > actual

> > > > > > > > jest; but,

> > > > > > > > > > > rianting aloud as if amused at some subtlety of

nuance

> > > > that is

> > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > > own projection. and all a clown can do at the sight

> > is to

> > > > > smile.

> > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > is a trick to be enjoyed!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > .b

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > not very nice

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > suggests an angry clown

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > no..the clown is not angry nor unangry, neither sad nor

> > > joyful.

> > > > > > he is

> > > > > > > > > not nice and he is not nasty. whatever the clown

seems to

> > > > > > suggest, he

> > > > > > > > > reflects only what participants of the audience

> project, and

> > > > > > suggests

> > > > > > > > > nothing of himself. it's all one of the greatest of

> > illusions.

> > > > > > and the

> > > > > > > > > trick is to enjoy the trick to be enjoyed. casting

> judgments

> > > > > on the

> > > > > > > > > demeanor or imagined intent of the entertainment is a

> > personal

> > > > > > problem

> > > > > > > > > only. only the smile of the Cheshire Cat or the twinkle

> > in the

> > > > > > eye of

> > > > > > > > > the clown, remain after the show....for both

audience and

> > > > > master of

> > > > > > > > > ceremonies. a circus of infinite rings, and all circus

> > > acts play

> > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > own Ringmaster for better or worse, happier or

> otherwise. no

> > > > > one has

> > > > > > > > > to go to the circus...even if it's the only game in

> > > town...some

> > > > > > > > > players both do an do not 'go' anywhere by their

dance of

> > > > > quarks and

> > > > > > > > > excogitations in the swirling void. just smiles.

> suggests a

> > > > > > clown with

> > > > > > > > > a respectable grin but without an agenda.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " a respectable grin but without an agenda "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sounds like this clown

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > changes horses in midstream:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > WRONG! read more carefully.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " the best part about pretending to be a clown, is

observing

> > > > > those who

> > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot alice!

all the

> > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and believe they

> > know or

> > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time missing the

actual

> > > jest "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > a pretty rock solid hidden agenda!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the 'audience' is the party with the agenda. the clown

merely

> > > > observes

> > > > > > > this unquestionable truth and smiles, without posing his

> beliefs

> > > > about

> > > > > > > what they are doing onto them, which is of course exactly

> > and only

> > > > > > > what the clowns audience is doing, and further trying to

> > > > persuade that

> > > > > > > same clown that they are not doing, but that they have the

> > > > inside dope

> > > > > > > on the clowns 'motives', which in truth are not present

in any

> > > way.

> > > > > > > the clown is motiveless.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > (next he'll say, and rightly so, that " changing horses in

> > > > midstream "

> > > > > > > > is precisely what the clown is all about

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > no. that is what you have said.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > not just the clown

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > not just the clown)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > just you

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > just you

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > it's all just you

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .......and it's not between the lines.....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > will have to take your

> > > > > >

> > > > > > most reliabe word for it

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > I'm untrustworthy....just like everyone and everything else.

> because

> > > > > one can never fulfill the trust of another. the only one that

> > one can

> > > > > trust, is oneself...but one never does, while all the time

> > saying that

> > > > > they do. no one can believe themselves. themselves is just too

> > > > > unbelievable. just so. love your neighbor as yourself, just as

> > soon as

> > > > > you know who that is. and it's the booby-prize.it's the

moonlight

> > > > > madness blue light special, on sale while riding on the magical

> > > > > mystery tour of the life. one must not believe anything one

> doesn't

> > > > > know fully and completely as an aspect of their own being. It's

> > really

> > > > > not a big deal nor not much of 'thing' at all....it's groovy!

> > > > >

> > > > > .b

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > will have to take your

> > > >

> > > > most reliabe word for it

> > > >

> > > > but...

> > > >

> > > > most probably know

> > > >

> > > > The Liar Paradox:

> > > >

> > > > As stated in the book of Paul in the Bible: " One of themselves, a

> > > > prophet oftheir own, said, 'Cretans are always liars. . . .' "

(Titus

> > > > 1:12)

> > > >

> > > > Interpret this as a Cretan saying, " Everything a Cretan says is

> > false. "

> > > >

> > > > Is what the Cretan has said true or false?

> > > >

> > > > is bob, therefore, a Cretan?

> > > >

> > > > no, said A, he's just a French Canadian:

> > > >

> > > > A: .b is a French Canadian. he says all French Canadians are

liars.

> > > > But, he is a liar, and thus he is lying. If he is lying, French

> > > > Canadians are not liars and thus he is telling the truth.

> > > >

> > > > I made a friend. he is called Steve. Steve is a duck.

> > > >

> > > > B: Hi A, just so you know.

> > > > .b is neither lying, nor telling the truth.

> > > >

> > > > He is merely making a false statement.

> > > >

> > > > C: .b cannot be telling the truth as this would contradict the

> > > > statement that he himself (being French Canadian) is a liar

> > > >

> > > > If .b is lying, this is acceptable as there are more possibilities

> > > > than just ALL are liars or NONE are liars.

> > > >

> > > > He is lying that ALL are liars but SOME could be liars, of which

> he is

> > > > one, therefore cannot be assumed automatically to be telling the

> truth

> > > >

> > > > &

> > > >

> > > > Here's another andgle, for you & glers, and it pretty much sums

> up what

> > > > we're doing here @ Nis House (in case you're too lazy to read it

> all,

> > > > here's the punch line: " Indeed we are not even in the

unpredictable

> > > > world of chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the

> > > > non-predictable, an altogether much more interesting place. " ):

> > > >

> > > > " Do you remember the old philosophical paradox about lying

> Cretans? It

> > > > goes like this: all Cretans are liars, I am a Cretan,

therefore I am

> > > > lying. Am I a Cretan? Before you get tied up in logical knots

trying

> > > > to solve this paradoxical statement, let me give you a much more

> > > > interesting idea to play with. All Cretans, like the rest of

us, can

> > > > lie: we can make things seem other than they are; we can tell

> stories;

> > > > we can invent new ways of understanding; we can lie. It is the

> process

> > > > of deception, making one thing stand for another, creating

> metaphors,

> > > > or inventing axioms that makes communication possible. The

study of

> > > > signs and symbols, as Umberto Eco observes 'is in principle the

> > > > discipline studying everything which can be used in order to lie.'

> > > > (Eco, 1976).

> > > >

> > > > " The fact that we can lie is another way of saying that we can

play

> > > > the game by the rules, we can cheat, or we can invent new

rules. We

> > > > owe this insight into the nature of communication—as a kind of

game

> > > > with rules—to the enigmatic philosopher Wittgenstein

(Wittgenstein,

> > > > 1953). This insight explains why the old paradigm, based on the

> ideas

> > > > of cause and effect, did not work. People are not affected by

> > > > messages, that is altogether the wrong way to describe what

happens.

> > > > People read messages using the range of rules they have

available to

> > > > them and which seem appropriate at the time. So when we study

> > > > communication, we are studying rules made by people.

> > > >

> > > > " This means that our research has moved out of the realm of the

> > > > predictable. Indeed we are not even in the unpredictable world of

> > > > chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the

non-predictable,

> > > > an altogether much more interesting place. "

> > > >

> > > it's right here, now. and you know it. you are it. you are home. and

> > > home is never for a nano-micro-second of spacetime absent or

> > > unattentive. you can't believe yourself. " maybe there is an

invisible

> > > hand that moves all selves to join and become one and.... " ,

> > > ...fundamentally you know better. you are truth... truth,

reality, it,

> > > I, them, there, and those. and the game is to pretend that you have

> > > not only agreed to play the game, but that you set it up in the

first

> > > place. I'm vile this way. I'm you and he and she and it and you

> > > probably don't believe me because you think that I am someone other

> > > than yourself, who is the only one you can trust.. and you still

have

> > > the feeling that the fundamental self of you is lying somehow or

> > > someway, and you gotta find some way out of this rat's nest

> > > merry-go-round of noisome, nauseating...what????? what's the

problem?

> > > where are you going to go? what are you going to 'do' then (at

> > > enlightenment, or fulfillment, or retirement, or upon meeting " The

> > > One " ..woman, guru, financial adviser, or next really cool neat

thing.

> > > you will 'do' and 'go' exactly and only where you go and what you

> > > do...just like now. but you get to skip over the pondering and

> > > suffering and power need stuff. descriptions are invalid at this

> > > point. and there is no such thing as lying or telling the truth..who

> > > could do such a thing? and to whom would they speak? or what would

> > > they speak? the paradox of paradoxes is that there really are no

> > > paradoxes. but for an interesting logic type utilised by conceptual

> > > activity, paradoxes are fantasy. well, then, everything and

everybody

> > > is as well. and it's the predictability of nonpredictability and the

> > > nonpredictability of preductability that is the rub! it's a

beautiful

> > > thing!

> > >

> > > .b

> > >

> >

> > we'll take your

> >

> > word for it

> >

you had no choice.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(ping)

we'll take your

word for that, too

(pong)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

December 16, 2006

Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

<skywords@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> > <skywords@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> > > > <skywords@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta ,

> " roberibus111 "

> > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta ,

" skywhilds "

> > > > > > <skywords@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deus ex machina is a Latin phrase that is

> > used to

> > > > > > > > describe an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unexpected, artificial, or improbable

> character,

> > > > > > > device, or

> > > > > > > > > > event

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > introduced suddenly in a work of fiction or

> > > drama to

> > > > > > > > resolve a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation or untangle a plot (e.g.,

having the

> > > > > > protagonist

> > > > > > > > > wake

> > > > > > > > > > > > up and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realize it was all a dream, or an angel

> suddenly

> > > > > > > > appearing to

> > > > > > > > > > > solve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the plot problems of a story that the

> > > characters

> > > > > > > > can't or

> > > > > > > > > > > won't

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve on their own). The phrase has been

> > > > extended to

> > > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > > > > > to any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolution to a story which does not pay due

> > > regard

> > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > > > story's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internal logic and is so unlikely that it

> > > challenges

> > > > > > > > > > suspension of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disbelief, allowing the author to

conclude the

> > > story

> > > > > > > with an

> > > > > > > > > > > > unlikely,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > though more palatable, ending. In modern

> > terms the

> > > > > > deus ex

> > > > > > > > > > > > machina has

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also come to describe a being, object or

event

> > > that

> > > > > > > suddenly

> > > > > > > > > > > appears

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and solves a seemingly insoluble

> difficulty (e.

> > > > g. the

> > > > > > > > cavalry

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arriving). A classic example of this type of

> > > deus ex

> > > > > > > > > machina is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Homer's Odyssey; a more contemporary

> example is

> > > > > Michael

> > > > > > > > > > > > Crichton's The

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andromeda Strain. While in storytelling this

> > might

> > > > > seem

> > > > > > > > > > > > unfulfilling,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in real life this type of figure might be

> > > > welcome and

> > > > > > > > heroic,

> > > > > > > > > > > due to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the low probability of such an event

> occurring.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It sometimes also can mean, usually in an

> > > > episode of a

> > > > > > > > > > sitcom, an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > event or plot device which does not

> necessarily

> > > > > > solve the

> > > > > > > > > > > > conflict of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the plot, but demotes the character(s)

> into the

> > > > > > financial,

> > > > > > > > > > > > emotional,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mental, or geographical state they were in

> > > when the

> > > > > > > episode

> > > > > > > > > > began,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > restoring the series' status quo in order to

> > more

> > > > > easily

> > > > > > > > allow

> > > > > > > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation in the next episode. However, this

> > > usage,

> > > > > > > which is

> > > > > > > > > > > > somewhat

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different from classical deus ex machina, is

> > more

> > > > > > commonly

> > > > > > > > > > > > called the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " reset button technique " .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The notion of deus ex machina can also be

> > > > applied to a

> > > > > > > > > > revelation

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > within a story experienced by a character

> which

> > > > > > > involves the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > individual realizing that the complicated,

> > > sometimes

> > > > > > > > > perilous or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mundane and perhaps seemingly unrelated

> > > sequence of

> > > > > > events

> > > > > > > > > > > > leading up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to this point in the story are joined

together

> > > > by some

> > > > > > > > > profound

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concept. Thus the unexpected and timely

> > > > > intervention is

> > > > > > > > aimed

> > > > > > > > > > > at the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning of the story rather than a physical

> > event

> > > > > in the

> > > > > > > > plot.

> > > > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may more accurately be described as a plot

> > twist.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Greek tragedian Euripides is

notorious for

> > > using

> > > > > > > > this plot

> > > > > > > > > > > > device.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first person known to have

criticized the

> > > > > device was

> > > > > > > > > > > > Aristotle in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Poetics, where he argues that a good

> tragedy

> > > > must

> > > > > > > remain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > plausible.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's unbelievable.that's a tragedy! as

> > > unremainingly

> > > > > > > > > > > inplausible as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it seems. Ari always was sort of a party

pooper.

> > > maybe

> > > > > > > > he'll be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > different whenever he gets rebooted into

> windows.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > " be a clown, be a clown, "

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > how does it go, bob?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > VERSE

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll remember forever,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was but three,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mama, who was clever.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Remarking to me….

> > > > > > > > > > > > > If son when you're grown up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You want ev'rything nice

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got your future sewn up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > If you take this advice…

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 1

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Act the fool play the calf

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always have the last laugh

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear the cap and the bells

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll rate with all the best swells

> > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a doctor, folks'll face you with

> dread

> > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a dentist, they'll be glad when

> you're

> > > > dead

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll get a bigger hand if you can stand on

> > your head

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 2

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crazy buffoon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And the demoiselles'll all swoon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dress in huge baggy pants

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll ride the road to romance

> > > > > > > > > > > > > A butcher or a baker ladies never embrace

> > > > > > > > > > > > > A barber or a beau would be a social disgrace

> > > > > > > > > > > > > They all'll come to call if you can fall on your

> > face

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 3

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Show `em tricks tell `em jokes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll only stop with top folks

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crack jackanapes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll imitate you like apes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a great composer with your rent in

arrears?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a major poet and you'll owe it for years?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > When crowds'll pay to giggle if you wiggle

> your ears

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 4

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > If you just make `em roar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Watch your mountebank soar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear a painted moustache

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And you're sure to make a big splash

> > > > > > > > > > > > > A college education I should never propose

> > > > > > > > > > > > > A bachelor's degree won't even keep you in

clo'es

> > > > > > > > > > > > > But millions you will win if you can spin on

> > your nose

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 5

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the poor silly ass

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always travel first class

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Give `em quips, give `em fun

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll apy and say you're A1

> > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a farmer you've the weather to

buck

> > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a gambler you'll be stuck with

> > your luck

> > > > > > > > > > > > > But Jack you'll never lack if you can quack

like a

> > > duck

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (Quack, quack, quack, quack)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Thanks to Meggyweggs@ for lyrics]

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > eh?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > the best part about pretending to be a clown, is

> > > observing

> > > > > > > > those who

> > > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot

alice!

> > > > all the

> > > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and believe

> > they

> > > > > > know or

> > > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time

missing the

> > > > actual

> > > > > > > > > jest; but,

> > > > > > > > > > > > rianting aloud as if amused at some subtlety of

> nuance

> > > > > that is

> > > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > > > own projection. and all a clown can do at the

sight

> > > is to

> > > > > > smile.

> > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > > is a trick to be enjoyed!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > .b

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > not very nice

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > suggests an angry clown

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > no..the clown is not angry nor unangry, neither

sad nor

> > > > joyful.

> > > > > > > he is

> > > > > > > > > > not nice and he is not nasty. whatever the clown

> seems to

> > > > > > > suggest, he

> > > > > > > > > > reflects only what participants of the audience

> > project, and

> > > > > > > suggests

> > > > > > > > > > nothing of himself. it's all one of the greatest of

> > > illusions.

> > > > > > > and the

> > > > > > > > > > trick is to enjoy the trick to be enjoyed. casting

> > judgments

> > > > > > on the

> > > > > > > > > > demeanor or imagined intent of the entertainment is a

> > > personal

> > > > > > > problem

> > > > > > > > > > only. only the smile of the Cheshire Cat or the

twinkle

> > > in the

> > > > > > > eye of

> > > > > > > > > > the clown, remain after the show....for both

> audience and

> > > > > > master of

> > > > > > > > > > ceremonies. a circus of infinite rings, and all circus

> > > > acts play

> > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > own Ringmaster for better or worse, happier or

> > otherwise. no

> > > > > > one has

> > > > > > > > > > to go to the circus...even if it's the only game in

> > > > town...some

> > > > > > > > > > players both do an do not 'go' anywhere by their

> dance of

> > > > > > quarks and

> > > > > > > > > > excogitations in the swirling void. just smiles.

> > suggests a

> > > > > > > clown with

> > > > > > > > > > a respectable grin but without an agenda.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > " a respectable grin but without an agenda "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sounds like this clown

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > changes horses in midstream:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > WRONG! read more carefully.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > " the best part about pretending to be a clown, is

> observing

> > > > > > those who

> > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot alice!

> all the

> > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and believe they

> > > know or

> > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time missing the

> actual

> > > > jest "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > a pretty rock solid hidden agenda!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the 'audience' is the party with the agenda. the clown

> merely

> > > > > observes

> > > > > > > > this unquestionable truth and smiles, without posing his

> > beliefs

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > > what they are doing onto them, which is of course exactly

> > > and only

> > > > > > > > what the clowns audience is doing, and further trying to

> > > > > persuade that

> > > > > > > > same clown that they are not doing, but that they have the

> > > > > inside dope

> > > > > > > > on the clowns 'motives', which in truth are not present

> in any

> > > > way.

> > > > > > > > the clown is motiveless.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (next he'll say, and rightly so, that " changing

horses in

> > > > > midstream "

> > > > > > > > > is precisely what the clown is all about

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > no. that is what you have said.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > not just the clown

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > not just the clown)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > just you

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > just you

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it's all just you

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .......and it's not between the

lines.....

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > will have to take your

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > most reliabe word for it

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm untrustworthy....just like everyone and everything else.

> > because

> > > > > > one can never fulfill the trust of another. the only one that

> > > one can

> > > > > > trust, is oneself...but one never does, while all the time

> > > saying that

> > > > > > they do. no one can believe themselves. themselves is just too

> > > > > > unbelievable. just so. love your neighbor as yourself, just as

> > > soon as

> > > > > > you know who that is. and it's the booby-prize.it's the

> moonlight

> > > > > > madness blue light special, on sale while riding on the

magical

> > > > > > mystery tour of the life. one must not believe anything one

> > doesn't

> > > > > > know fully and completely as an aspect of their own being.

It's

> > > really

> > > > > > not a big deal nor not much of 'thing' at all....it's groovy!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > will have to take your

> > > > >

> > > > > most reliabe word for it

> > > > >

> > > > > but...

> > > > >

> > > > > most probably know

> > > > >

> > > > > The Liar Paradox:

> > > > >

> > > > > As stated in the book of Paul in the Bible: " One of

themselves, a

> > > > > prophet oftheir own, said, 'Cretans are always liars. . . .' "

> (Titus

> > > > > 1:12)

> > > > >

> > > > > Interpret this as a Cretan saying, " Everything a Cretan says is

> > > false. "

> > > > >

> > > > > Is what the Cretan has said true or false?

> > > > >

> > > > > is bob, therefore, a Cretan?

> > > > >

> > > > > no, said A, he's just a French Canadian:

> > > > >

> > > > > A: .b is a French Canadian. he says all French Canadians are

> liars.

> > > > > But, he is a liar, and thus he is lying. If he is lying, French

> > > > > Canadians are not liars and thus he is telling the truth.

> > > > >

> > > > > I made a friend. he is called Steve. Steve is a duck.

> > > > >

> > > > > B: Hi A, just so you know.

> > > > > .b is neither lying, nor telling the truth.

> > > > >

> > > > > He is merely making a false statement.

> > > > >

> > > > > C: .b cannot be telling the truth as this would contradict the

> > > > > statement that he himself (being French Canadian) is a liar

> > > > >

> > > > > If .b is lying, this is acceptable as there are more

possibilities

> > > > > than just ALL are liars or NONE are liars.

> > > > >

> > > > > He is lying that ALL are liars but SOME could be liars, of which

> > he is

> > > > > one, therefore cannot be assumed automatically to be telling the

> > truth

> > > > >

> > > > > &

> > > > >

> > > > > Here's another andgle, for you & glers, and it pretty much sums

> > up what

> > > > > we're doing here @ Nis House (in case you're too lazy to read it

> > all,

> > > > > here's the punch line: " Indeed we are not even in the

> unpredictable

> > > > > world of chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the

> > > > > non-predictable, an altogether much more interesting place. " ):

> > > > >

> > > > > " Do you remember the old philosophical paradox about lying

> > Cretans? It

> > > > > goes like this: all Cretans are liars, I am a Cretan,

> therefore I am

> > > > > lying. Am I a Cretan? Before you get tied up in logical knots

> trying

> > > > > to solve this paradoxical statement, let me give you a much more

> > > > > interesting idea to play with. All Cretans, like the rest of

> us, can

> > > > > lie: we can make things seem other than they are; we can tell

> > stories;

> > > > > we can invent new ways of understanding; we can lie. It is the

> > process

> > > > > of deception, making one thing stand for another, creating

> > metaphors,

> > > > > or inventing axioms that makes communication possible. The

> study of

> > > > > signs and symbols, as Umberto Eco observes 'is in principle the

> > > > > discipline studying everything which can be used in order to

lie.'

> > > > > (Eco, 1976).

> > > > >

> > > > > " The fact that we can lie is another way of saying that we can

> play

> > > > > the game by the rules, we can cheat, or we can invent new

> rules. We

> > > > > owe this insight into the nature of communication—as a kind of

> game

> > > > > with rules—to the enigmatic philosopher Wittgenstein

> (Wittgenstein,

> > > > > 1953). This insight explains why the old paradigm, based on the

> > ideas

> > > > > of cause and effect, did not work. People are not affected by

> > > > > messages, that is altogether the wrong way to describe what

> happens.

> > > > > People read messages using the range of rules they have

> available to

> > > > > them and which seem appropriate at the time. So when we study

> > > > > communication, we are studying rules made by people.

> > > > >

> > > > > " This means that our research has moved out of the realm of the

> > > > > predictable. Indeed we are not even in the unpredictable

world of

> > > > > chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the

> non-predictable,

> > > > > an altogether much more interesting place. "

> > > > >

> > > > it's right here, now. and you know it. you are it. you are

home. and

> > > > home is never for a nano-micro-second of spacetime absent or

> > > > unattentive. you can't believe yourself. " maybe there is an

> invisible

> > > > hand that moves all selves to join and become one and.... " ,

> > > > ...fundamentally you know better. you are truth... truth,

> reality, it,

> > > > I, them, there, and those. and the game is to pretend that you

have

> > > > not only agreed to play the game, but that you set it up in the

> first

> > > > place. I'm vile this way. I'm you and he and she and it and you

> > > > probably don't believe me because you think that I am someone

other

> > > > than yourself, who is the only one you can trust.. and you still

> have

> > > > the feeling that the fundamental self of you is lying somehow or

> > > > someway, and you gotta find some way out of this rat's nest

> > > > merry-go-round of noisome, nauseating...what????? what's the

> problem?

> > > > where are you going to go? what are you going to 'do' then (at

> > > > enlightenment, or fulfillment, or retirement, or upon meeting " The

> > > > One " ..woman, guru, financial adviser, or next really cool neat

> thing.

> > > > you will 'do' and 'go' exactly and only where you go and what you

> > > > do...just like now. but you get to skip over the pondering and

> > > > suffering and power need stuff. descriptions are invalid at this

> > > > point. and there is no such thing as lying or telling the

truth..who

> > > > could do such a thing? and to whom would they speak? or what would

> > > > they speak? the paradox of paradoxes is that there really are no

> > > > paradoxes. but for an interesting logic type utilised by

conceptual

> > > > activity, paradoxes are fantasy. well, then, everything and

> everybody

> > > > is as well. and it's the predictability of nonpredictability

and the

> > > > nonpredictability of preductability that is the rub! it's a

> beautiful

> > > > thing!

> > > >

> > > > .b

> > > >

> > >

> > > we'll take your

> > >

> > > word for it

> > >

> >

> > you had no choice.

>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(ping)

>

> we'll take your

>

> word for that, too

>

> (pong)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

naturally, I knew you would.

you know your a player

so are 'they'

.......you're on the Gong Show.

GONG!

.b

December 16, 2006

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> <skywords@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> > > <skywords@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta ,

" roberibus111 "

> > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> > > > > <skywords@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta ,

> > " roberibus111 "

> > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta ,

> " skywhilds "

> > > > > > > <skywords@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deus ex machina is a Latin phrase that is

> > > used to

> > > > > > > > > describe an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unexpected, artificial, or improbable

> > character,

> > > > > > > > device, or

> > > > > > > > > > > event

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > introduced suddenly in a work of

fiction or

> > > > drama to

> > > > > > > > > resolve a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation or untangle a plot (e.g.,

> having the

> > > > > > > protagonist

> > > > > > > > > > wake

> > > > > > > > > > > > > up and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realize it was all a dream, or an angel

> > suddenly

> > > > > > > > > appearing to

> > > > > > > > > > > > solve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the plot problems of a story that the

> > > > characters

> > > > > > > > > can't or

> > > > > > > > > > > > won't

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve on their own). The phrase has been

> > > > > extended to

> > > > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > > > > > > to any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolution to a story which does not

pay due

> > > > regard

> > > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > > > > story's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internal logic and is so unlikely that it

> > > > challenges

> > > > > > > > > > > suspension of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disbelief, allowing the author to

> conclude the

> > > > story

> > > > > > > > with an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > unlikely,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > though more palatable, ending. In modern

> > > terms the

> > > > > > > deus ex

> > > > > > > > > > > > > machina has

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also come to describe a being, object or

> event

> > > > that

> > > > > > > > suddenly

> > > > > > > > > > > > appears

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and solves a seemingly insoluble

> > difficulty (e.

> > > > > g. the

> > > > > > > > > cavalry

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arriving). A classic example of this

type of

> > > > deus ex

> > > > > > > > > > machina is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Homer's Odyssey; a more contemporary

> > example is

> > > > > > Michael

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Crichton's The

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andromeda Strain. While in

storytelling this

> > > might

> > > > > > seem

> > > > > > > > > > > > > unfulfilling,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in real life this type of figure might be

> > > > > welcome and

> > > > > > > > > heroic,

> > > > > > > > > > > > due to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the low probability of such an event

> > occurring.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It sometimes also can mean, usually in an

> > > > > episode of a

> > > > > > > > > > > sitcom, an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > event or plot device which does not

> > necessarily

> > > > > > > solve the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > conflict of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the plot, but demotes the character(s)

> > into the

> > > > > > > financial,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > emotional,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mental, or geographical state they were in

> > > > when the

> > > > > > > > episode

> > > > > > > > > > > began,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > restoring the series' status quo in

order to

> > > more

> > > > > > easily

> > > > > > > > > allow

> > > > > > > > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation in the next episode.

However, this

> > > > usage,

> > > > > > > > which is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > somewhat

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different from classical deus ex

machina, is

> > > more

> > > > > > > commonly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > called the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " reset button technique " .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The notion of deus ex machina can also be

> > > > > applied to a

> > > > > > > > > > > revelation

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > within a story experienced by a character

> > which

> > > > > > > > involves the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > individual realizing that the complicated,

> > > > sometimes

> > > > > > > > > > perilous or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mundane and perhaps seemingly unrelated

> > > > sequence of

> > > > > > > events

> > > > > > > > > > > > > leading up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to this point in the story are joined

> together

> > > > > by some

> > > > > > > > > > profound

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concept. Thus the unexpected and timely

> > > > > > intervention is

> > > > > > > > > aimed

> > > > > > > > > > > > at the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning of the story rather than a

physical

> > > event

> > > > > > in the

> > > > > > > > > plot.

> > > > > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may more accurately be described as a plot

> > > twist.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Greek tragedian Euripides is

> notorious for

> > > > using

> > > > > > > > > this plot

> > > > > > > > > > > > > device.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first person known to have

> criticized the

> > > > > > device was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Aristotle in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Poetics, where he argues that a good

> > tragedy

> > > > > must

> > > > > > > > remain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > plausible.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's unbelievable.that's a tragedy! as

> > > > unremainingly

> > > > > > > > > > > > inplausible as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it seems. Ari always was sort of a party

> pooper.

> > > > maybe

> > > > > > > > > he'll be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different whenever he gets rebooted into

> > windows.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " be a clown, be a clown, "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how does it go, bob?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > VERSE

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll remember forever,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was but three,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mama, who was clever.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remarking to me….

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If son when you're grown up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You want ev'rything nice

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got your future sewn up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you take this advice…

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 1

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Act the fool play the calf

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always have the last laugh

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear the cap and the bells

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll rate with all the best swells

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a doctor, folks'll face you with

> > dread

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a dentist, they'll be glad when

> > you're

> > > > > dead

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll get a bigger hand if you can stand on

> > > your head

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 2

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crazy buffoon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the demoiselles'll all swoon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dress in huge baggy pants

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll ride the road to romance

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A butcher or a baker ladies never embrace

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A barber or a beau would be a social disgrace

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > They all'll come to call if you can fall

on your

> > > face

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 3

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show `em tricks tell `em jokes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll only stop with top folks

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crack jackanapes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll imitate you like apes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a great composer with your rent in

> arrears?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a major poet and you'll owe it for

years?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > When crowds'll pay to giggle if you wiggle

> > your ears

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 4

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you just make `em roar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Watch your mountebank soar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear a painted moustache

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you're sure to make a big splash

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A college education I should never propose

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A bachelor's degree won't even keep you in

> clo'es

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But millions you will win if you can spin on

> > > your nose

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 5

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the poor silly ass

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always travel first class

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give `em quips, give `em fun

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll apy and say you're A1

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a farmer you've the weather to

> buck

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a gambler you'll be stuck with

> > > your luck

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Jack you'll never lack if you can quack

> like a

> > > > duck

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Quack, quack, quack, quack)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Thanks to Meggyweggs@ for lyrics]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > eh?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the best part about pretending to be a clown, is

> > > > observing

> > > > > > > > > those who

> > > > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot

> alice!

> > > > > all the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and

believe

> > > they

> > > > > > > know or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time

> missing the

> > > > > actual

> > > > > > > > > > jest; but,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > rianting aloud as if amused at some subtlety of

> > nuance

> > > > > > that is

> > > > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > > > > own projection. and all a clown can do at the

> sight

> > > > is to

> > > > > > > smile.

> > > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is a trick to be enjoyed!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > .b

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > not very nice

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > suggests an angry clown

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > no..the clown is not angry nor unangry, neither

> sad nor

> > > > > joyful.

> > > > > > > > he is

> > > > > > > > > > > not nice and he is not nasty. whatever the clown

> > seems to

> > > > > > > > suggest, he

> > > > > > > > > > > reflects only what participants of the audience

> > > project, and

> > > > > > > > suggests

> > > > > > > > > > > nothing of himself. it's all one of the greatest of

> > > > illusions.

> > > > > > > > and the

> > > > > > > > > > > trick is to enjoy the trick to be enjoyed. casting

> > > judgments

> > > > > > > on the

> > > > > > > > > > > demeanor or imagined intent of the entertainment

is a

> > > > personal

> > > > > > > > problem

> > > > > > > > > > > only. only the smile of the Cheshire Cat or the

> twinkle

> > > > in the

> > > > > > > > eye of

> > > > > > > > > > > the clown, remain after the show....for both

> > audience and

> > > > > > > master of

> > > > > > > > > > > ceremonies. a circus of infinite rings, and all

circus

> > > > > acts play

> > > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > > own Ringmaster for better or worse, happier or

> > > otherwise. no

> > > > > > > one has

> > > > > > > > > > > to go to the circus...even if it's the only game in

> > > > > town...some

> > > > > > > > > > > players both do an do not 'go' anywhere by their

> > dance of

> > > > > > > quarks and

> > > > > > > > > > > excogitations in the swirling void. just smiles.

> > > suggests a

> > > > > > > > clown with

> > > > > > > > > > > a respectable grin but without an agenda.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > " a respectable grin but without an agenda "

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sounds like this clown

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > changes horses in midstream:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > WRONG! read more carefully.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > " the best part about pretending to be a clown, is

> > observing

> > > > > > > those who

> > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot alice!

> > all the

> > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and

believe they

> > > > know or

> > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time missing the

> > actual

> > > > > jest "

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > a pretty rock solid hidden agenda!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the 'audience' is the party with the agenda. the clown

> > merely

> > > > > > observes

> > > > > > > > > this unquestionable truth and smiles, without posing his

> > > beliefs

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > what they are doing onto them, which is of course

exactly

> > > > and only

> > > > > > > > > what the clowns audience is doing, and further trying to

> > > > > > persuade that

> > > > > > > > > same clown that they are not doing, but that they

have the

> > > > > > inside dope

> > > > > > > > > on the clowns 'motives', which in truth are not present

> > in any

> > > > > way.

> > > > > > > > > the clown is motiveless.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > (next he'll say, and rightly so, that " changing

> horses in

> > > > > > midstream "

> > > > > > > > > > is precisely what the clown is all about

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > no. that is what you have said.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > not just the clown

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > not just the clown)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > just you

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > just you

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it's all just you

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .......and it's not between the

> lines.....

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > will have to take your

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > most reliabe word for it

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm untrustworthy....just like everyone and everything else.

> > > because

> > > > > > > one can never fulfill the trust of another. the only one

that

> > > > one can

> > > > > > > trust, is oneself...but one never does, while all the time

> > > > saying that

> > > > > > > they do. no one can believe themselves. themselves is

just too

> > > > > > > unbelievable. just so. love your neighbor as yourself,

just as

> > > > soon as

> > > > > > > you know who that is. and it's the booby-prize.it's the

> > moonlight

> > > > > > > madness blue light special, on sale while riding on the

> magical

> > > > > > > mystery tour of the life. one must not believe anything one

> > > doesn't

> > > > > > > know fully and completely as an aspect of their own being.

> It's

> > > > really

> > > > > > > not a big deal nor not much of 'thing' at all....it's

groovy!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > will have to take your

> > > > > >

> > > > > > most reliabe word for it

> > > > > >

> > > > > > but...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > most probably know

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The Liar Paradox:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As stated in the book of Paul in the Bible: " One of

> themselves, a

> > > > > > prophet oftheir own, said, 'Cretans are always liars. . . .' "

> > (Titus

> > > > > > 1:12)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Interpret this as a Cretan saying, " Everything a Cretan

says is

> > > > false. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is what the Cretan has said true or false?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > is bob, therefore, a Cretan?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > no, said A, he's just a French Canadian:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A: .b is a French Canadian. he says all French Canadians are

> > liars.

> > > > > > But, he is a liar, and thus he is lying. If he is lying,

French

> > > > > > Canadians are not liars and thus he is telling the truth.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I made a friend. he is called Steve. Steve is a duck.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > B: Hi A, just so you know.

> > > > > > .b is neither lying, nor telling the truth.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He is merely making a false statement.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > C: .b cannot be telling the truth as this would

contradict the

> > > > > > statement that he himself (being French Canadian) is a liar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If .b is lying, this is acceptable as there are more

> possibilities

> > > > > > than just ALL are liars or NONE are liars.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He is lying that ALL are liars but SOME could be liars, of

which

> > > he is

> > > > > > one, therefore cannot be assumed automatically to be

telling the

> > > truth

> > > > > >

> > > > > > &

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here's another andgle, for you & glers, and it pretty much sums

> > > up what

> > > > > > we're doing here @ Nis House (in case you're too lazy to

read it

> > > all,

> > > > > > here's the punch line: " Indeed we are not even in the

> > unpredictable

> > > > > > world of chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the

> > > > > > non-predictable, an altogether much more interesting place. " ):

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Do you remember the old philosophical paradox about lying

> > > Cretans? It

> > > > > > goes like this: all Cretans are liars, I am a Cretan,

> > therefore I am

> > > > > > lying. Am I a Cretan? Before you get tied up in logical knots

> > trying

> > > > > > to solve this paradoxical statement, let me give you a

much more

> > > > > > interesting idea to play with. All Cretans, like the rest of

> > us, can

> > > > > > lie: we can make things seem other than they are; we can tell

> > > stories;

> > > > > > we can invent new ways of understanding; we can lie. It is the

> > > process

> > > > > > of deception, making one thing stand for another, creating

> > > metaphors,

> > > > > > or inventing axioms that makes communication possible. The

> > study of

> > > > > > signs and symbols, as Umberto Eco observes 'is in

principle the

> > > > > > discipline studying everything which can be used in order to

> lie.'

> > > > > > (Eco, 1976).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " The fact that we can lie is another way of saying that we can

> > play

> > > > > > the game by the rules, we can cheat, or we can invent new

> > rules. We

> > > > > > owe this insight into the nature of communication—as a kind of

> > game

> > > > > > with rules—to the enigmatic philosopher Wittgenstein

> > (Wittgenstein,

> > > > > > 1953). This insight explains why the old paradigm, based

on the

> > > ideas

> > > > > > of cause and effect, did not work. People are not affected by

> > > > > > messages, that is altogether the wrong way to describe what

> > happens.

> > > > > > People read messages using the range of rules they have

> > available to

> > > > > > them and which seem appropriate at the time. So when we study

> > > > > > communication, we are studying rules made by people.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " This means that our research has moved out of the realm

of the

> > > > > > predictable. Indeed we are not even in the unpredictable

> world of

> > > > > > chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the

> > non-predictable,

> > > > > > an altogether much more interesting place. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > it's right here, now. and you know it. you are it. you are

> home. and

> > > > > home is never for a nano-micro-second of spacetime absent or

> > > > > unattentive. you can't believe yourself. " maybe there is an

> > invisible

> > > > > hand that moves all selves to join and become one and.... " ,

> > > > > ...fundamentally you know better. you are truth... truth,

> > reality, it,

> > > > > I, them, there, and those. and the game is to pretend that you

> have

> > > > > not only agreed to play the game, but that you set it up in the

> > first

> > > > > place. I'm vile this way. I'm you and he and she and it and you

> > > > > probably don't believe me because you think that I am someone

> other

> > > > > than yourself, who is the only one you can trust.. and you still

> > have

> > > > > the feeling that the fundamental self of you is lying somehow or

> > > > > someway, and you gotta find some way out of this rat's nest

> > > > > merry-go-round of noisome, nauseating...what????? what's the

> > problem?

> > > > > where are you going to go? what are you going to 'do' then (at

> > > > > enlightenment, or fulfillment, or retirement, or upon

meeting " The

> > > > > One " ..woman, guru, financial adviser, or next really cool neat

> > thing.

> > > > > you will 'do' and 'go' exactly and only where you go and

what you

> > > > > do...just like now. but you get to skip over the pondering and

> > > > > suffering and power need stuff. descriptions are invalid at this

> > > > > point. and there is no such thing as lying or telling the

> truth..who

> > > > > could do such a thing? and to whom would they speak? or what

would

> > > > > they speak? the paradox of paradoxes is that there really are no

> > > > > paradoxes. but for an interesting logic type utilised by

> conceptual

> > > > > activity, paradoxes are fantasy. well, then, everything and

> > everybody

> > > > > is as well. and it's the predictability of nonpredictability

> and the

> > > > > nonpredictability of preductability that is the rub! it's a

> > beautiful

> > > > > thing!

> > > > >

> > > > > .b

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > we'll take your

> > > >

> > > > word for it

> > > >

> > >

> > > you had no choice.

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(ping)

> >

> > we'll take your

> >

> > word for that, too

> >

> > (pong)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> > >

> >

> naturally, I knew you would.

>

> you know your a player

>

> so are 'they'

>

> .......you're on the Gong Show.

>

> GONG!

>

> .b

>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(ping)

you gongged out an eternity ago.

that's why your (angry clown) ghost is still haunting

this show. it wants another chance.

but at this rate, it will never get it.

(pong)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(your turn, but don't get too excited, because i'll be quitting pretty

soon:)

December 16, 2006

Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

<skywords@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

<skywords@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> > <skywords@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> > > > <skywords@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta ,

> " roberibus111 "

> > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> > > > > > <skywords@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta ,

> > > " roberibus111 "

> > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta ,

> > " skywhilds "

> > > > > > > > <skywords@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deus ex machina is a Latin phrase

that is

> > > > used to

> > > > > > > > > > describe an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unexpected, artificial, or

improbable

> > > character,

> > > > > > > > > device, or

> > > > > > > > > > > > event

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > introduced suddenly in a work of

> fiction or

> > > > > drama to

> > > > > > > > > > resolve a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation or untangle a plot (e.g.,

> > having the

> > > > > > > > protagonist

> > > > > > > > > > > wake

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > up and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realize it was all a dream, or an

angel

> > > suddenly

> > > > > > > > > > appearing to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > solve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the plot problems of a story

that the

> > > > > characters

> > > > > > > > > > can't or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > won't

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve on their own). The phrase

has been

> > > > > > extended to

> > > > > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolution to a story which does

not

> pay due

> > > > > regard

> > > > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > > > > > story's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internal logic and is so unlikely

that it

> > > > > challenges

> > > > > > > > > > > > suspension of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disbelief, allowing the author to

> > conclude the

> > > > > story

> > > > > > > > > with an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > unlikely,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > though more palatable, ending. In

modern

> > > > terms the

> > > > > > > > deus ex

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > machina has

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also come to describe a being,

object or

> > event

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > suddenly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > appears

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and solves a seemingly insoluble

> > > difficulty (e.

> > > > > > g. the

> > > > > > > > > > cavalry

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arriving). A classic example of

this

> type of

> > > > > deus ex

> > > > > > > > > > > machina is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Homer's Odyssey; a more

contemporary

> > > example is

> > > > > > > Michael

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crichton's The

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andromeda Strain. While in

> storytelling this

> > > > might

> > > > > > > seem

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > unfulfilling,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in real life this type of figure

might be

> > > > > > welcome and

> > > > > > > > > > heroic,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > due to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the low probability of such an

event

> > > occurring.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It sometimes also can mean,

usually in an

> > > > > > episode of a

> > > > > > > > > > > > sitcom, an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > event or plot device which does not

> > > necessarily

> > > > > > > > solve the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflict of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the plot, but demotes the character

(s)

> > > into the

> > > > > > > > financial,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > emotional,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mental, or geographical state they

were in

> > > > > when the

> > > > > > > > > episode

> > > > > > > > > > > > began,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > restoring the series' status quo in

> order to

> > > > more

> > > > > > > easily

> > > > > > > > > > allow

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation in the next episode.

> However, this

> > > > > usage,

> > > > > > > > > which is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > somewhat

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different from classical deus ex

> machina, is

> > > > more

> > > > > > > > commonly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > called the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " reset button technique " .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The notion of deus ex machina can

also be

> > > > > > applied to a

> > > > > > > > > > > > revelation

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > within a story experienced by a

character

> > > which

> > > > > > > > > involves the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > individual realizing that the

complicated,

> > > > > sometimes

> > > > > > > > > > > perilous or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mundane and perhaps seemingly

unrelated

> > > > > sequence of

> > > > > > > > events

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > leading up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to this point in the story are

joined

> > together

> > > > > > by some

> > > > > > > > > > > profound

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concept. Thus the unexpected and

timely

> > > > > > > intervention is

> > > > > > > > > > aimed

> > > > > > > > > > > > > at the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning of the story rather than a

> physical

> > > > event

> > > > > > > in the

> > > > > > > > > > plot.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may more accurately be described

as a plot

> > > > twist.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Greek tragedian Euripides is

> > notorious for

> > > > > using

> > > > > > > > > > this plot

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > device.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first person known to have

> > criticized the

> > > > > > > device was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aristotle in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Poetics, where he argues that

a good

> > > tragedy

> > > > > > must

> > > > > > > > > remain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plausible.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's unbelievable.that's a

tragedy! as

> > > > > unremainingly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > inplausible as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it seems. Ari always was sort of a

party

> > pooper.

> > > > > maybe

> > > > > > > > > > he'll be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different whenever he gets rebooted

into

> > > windows.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " be a clown, be a clown, "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how does it go, bob?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VERSE

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll remember forever,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was but three,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mama, who was clever.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remarking to me….

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If son when you're grown up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You want ev'rything nice

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got your future sewn up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you take this advice…

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 1

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Act the fool play the calf

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always have the last laugh

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear the cap and the bells

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll rate with all the best

swells

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a doctor, folks'll face

you with

> > > dread

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a dentist, they'll be

glad when

> > > you're

> > > > > > dead

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll get a bigger hand if you can

stand on

> > > > your head

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 2

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crazy buffoon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the demoiselles'll all swoon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dress in huge baggy pants

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll ride the road to romance

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A butcher or a baker ladies never

embrace

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A barber or a beau would be a social

disgrace

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They all'll come to call if you can

fall

> on your

> > > > face

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 3

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show `em tricks tell `em jokes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll only stop with top folks

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crack jackanapes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll imitate you like apes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a great composer with your rent

in

> > arrears?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a major poet and you'll owe it

for

> years?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When crowds'll pay to giggle if you

wiggle

> > > your ears

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 4

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you just make `em roar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Watch your mountebank soar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear a painted moustache

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you're sure to make a big splash

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A college education I should never

propose

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A bachelor's degree won't even keep

you in

> > clo'es

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But millions you will win if you can

spin on

> > > > your nose

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 5

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the poor silly ass

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always travel first class

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give `em quips, give `em fun

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll apy and say you're A1

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a farmer you've the

weather to

> > buck

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a gambler you'll be

stuck with

> > > > your luck

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Jack you'll never lack if you can

quack

> > like a

> > > > > duck

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Quack, quack, quack, quack)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Thanks to Meggyweggs@ for lyrics]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eh?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the best part about pretending to be a

clown, is

> > > > > observing

> > > > > > > > > > those who

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a

riot

> > alice!

> > > > > > all the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique

and

> believe

> > > > they

> > > > > > > > know or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time

> > missing the

> > > > > > actual

> > > > > > > > > > > jest; but,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rianting aloud as if amused at some

subtlety of

> > > nuance

> > > > > > > that is

> > > > > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > own projection. and all a clown can do

at the

> > sight

> > > > > is to

> > > > > > > > smile.

> > > > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a trick to be enjoyed!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not very nice

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > suggests an angry clown

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > no..the clown is not angry nor unangry,

neither

> > sad nor

> > > > > > joyful.

> > > > > > > > > he is

> > > > > > > > > > > > not nice and he is not nasty. whatever the

clown

> > > seems to

> > > > > > > > > suggest, he

> > > > > > > > > > > > reflects only what participants of the

audience

> > > > project, and

> > > > > > > > > suggests

> > > > > > > > > > > > nothing of himself. it's all one of the

greatest of

> > > > > illusions.

> > > > > > > > > and the

> > > > > > > > > > > > trick is to enjoy the trick to be enjoyed.

casting

> > > > judgments

> > > > > > > > on the

> > > > > > > > > > > > demeanor or imagined intent of the

entertainment

> is a

> > > > > personal

> > > > > > > > > problem

> > > > > > > > > > > > only. only the smile of the Cheshire Cat or

the

> > twinkle

> > > > > in the

> > > > > > > > > eye of

> > > > > > > > > > > > the clown, remain after the show....for both

> > > audience and

> > > > > > > > master of

> > > > > > > > > > > > ceremonies. a circus of infinite rings, and

all

> circus

> > > > > > acts play

> > > > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > > > own Ringmaster for better or worse, happier

or

> > > > otherwise. no

> > > > > > > > one has

> > > > > > > > > > > > to go to the circus...even if it's the only

game in

> > > > > > town...some

> > > > > > > > > > > > players both do an do not 'go' anywhere by

their

> > > dance of

> > > > > > > > quarks and

> > > > > > > > > > > > excogitations in the swirling void. just

smiles.

> > > > suggests a

> > > > > > > > > clown with

> > > > > > > > > > > > a respectable grin but without an agenda.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > " a respectable grin but without an agenda "

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sounds like this clown

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > changes horses in midstream:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > WRONG! read more carefully.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > " the best part about pretending to be a clown,

is

> > > observing

> > > > > > > > those who

> > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot

alice!

> > > all the

> > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and

> believe they

> > > > > know or

> > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time

missing the

> > > actual

> > > > > > jest "

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > a pretty rock solid hidden agenda!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the 'audience' is the party with the agenda. the

clown

> > > merely

> > > > > > > observes

> > > > > > > > > > this unquestionable truth and smiles, without

posing his

> > > > beliefs

> > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > what they are doing onto them, which is of course

> exactly

> > > > > and only

> > > > > > > > > > what the clowns audience is doing, and further

trying to

> > > > > > > persuade that

> > > > > > > > > > same clown that they are not doing, but that they

> have the

> > > > > > > inside dope

> > > > > > > > > > on the clowns 'motives', which in truth are not

present

> > > in any

> > > > > > way.

> > > > > > > > > > the clown is motiveless.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > (next he'll say, and rightly so, that " changing

> > horses in

> > > > > > > midstream "

> > > > > > > > > > > is precisely what the clown is all about

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > no. that is what you have said.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > not just the clown

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > not just the clown)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > just you

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > just you

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > it's all just you

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > .......and it's not between the

> > lines.....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > will have to take your

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > most reliabe word for it

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I'm untrustworthy....just like everyone and

everything else.

> > > > because

> > > > > > > > one can never fulfill the trust of another. the only

one

> that

> > > > > one can

> > > > > > > > trust, is oneself...but one never does, while all

the time

> > > > > saying that

> > > > > > > > they do. no one can believe themselves. themselves is

> just too

> > > > > > > > unbelievable. just so. love your neighbor as

yourself,

> just as

> > > > > soon as

> > > > > > > > you know who that is. and it's the booby-prize.it's

the

> > > moonlight

> > > > > > > > madness blue light special, on sale while riding on

the

> > magical

> > > > > > > > mystery tour of the life. one must not believe

anything one

> > > > doesn't

> > > > > > > > know fully and completely as an aspect of their own

being.

> > It's

> > > > > really

> > > > > > > > not a big deal nor not much of 'thing' at all....it's

> groovy!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .b

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > will have to take your

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > most reliabe word for it

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > but...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > most probably know

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The Liar Paradox:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As stated in the book of Paul in the Bible: " One of

> > themselves, a

> > > > > > > prophet oftheir own, said, 'Cretans are always

liars. . . .' "

> > > (Titus

> > > > > > > 1:12)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Interpret this as a Cretan saying, " Everything a Cretan

> says is

> > > > > false. "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Is what the Cretan has said true or false?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > is bob, therefore, a Cretan?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > no, said A, he's just a French Canadian:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A: .b is a French Canadian. he says all French

Canadians are

> > > liars.

> > > > > > > But, he is a liar, and thus he is lying. If he is

lying,

> French

> > > > > > > Canadians are not liars and thus he is telling the

truth.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I made a friend. he is called Steve. Steve is a duck.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > B: Hi A, just so you know.

> > > > > > > .b is neither lying, nor telling the truth.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He is merely making a false statement.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > C: .b cannot be telling the truth as this would

> contradict the

> > > > > > > statement that he himself (being French Canadian) is a

liar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If .b is lying, this is acceptable as there are more

> > possibilities

> > > > > > > than just ALL are liars or NONE are liars.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He is lying that ALL are liars but SOME could be

liars, of

> which

> > > > he is

> > > > > > > one, therefore cannot be assumed automatically to be

> telling the

> > > > truth

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > &

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here's another andgle, for you & glers, and it pretty

much sums

> > > > up what

> > > > > > > we're doing here @ Nis House (in case you're too lazy

to

> read it

> > > > all,

> > > > > > > here's the punch line: " Indeed we are not even in the

> > > unpredictable

> > > > > > > world of chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm

of the

> > > > > > > non-predictable, an altogether much more interesting

place. " ):

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Do you remember the old philosophical paradox about

lying

> > > > Cretans? It

> > > > > > > goes like this: all Cretans are liars, I am a Cretan,

> > > therefore I am

> > > > > > > lying. Am I a Cretan? Before you get tied up in

logical knots

> > > trying

> > > > > > > to solve this paradoxical statement, let me give you a

> much more

> > > > > > > interesting idea to play with. All Cretans, like the

rest of

> > > us, can

> > > > > > > lie: we can make things seem other than they are; we

can tell

> > > > stories;

> > > > > > > we can invent new ways of understanding; we can lie.

It is the

> > > > process

> > > > > > > of deception, making one thing stand for another,

creating

> > > > metaphors,

> > > > > > > or inventing axioms that makes communication possible.

The

> > > study of

> > > > > > > signs and symbols, as Umberto Eco observes 'is in

> principle the

> > > > > > > discipline studying everything which can be used in

order to

> > lie.'

> > > > > > > (Eco, 1976).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " The fact that we can lie is another way of saying

that we can

> > > play

> > > > > > > the game by the rules, we can cheat, or we can invent

new

> > > rules. We

> > > > > > > owe this insight into the nature of communication—as a

kind of

> > > game

> > > > > > > with rules—to the enigmatic philosopher Wittgenstein

> > > (Wittgenstein,

> > > > > > > 1953). This insight explains why the old paradigm,

based

> on the

> > > > ideas

> > > > > > > of cause and effect, did not work. People are not

affected by

> > > > > > > messages, that is altogether the wrong way to describe

what

> > > happens.

> > > > > > > People read messages using the range of rules they have

> > > available to

> > > > > > > them and which seem appropriate at the time. So when

we study

> > > > > > > communication, we are studying rules made by people.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " This means that our research has moved out of the

realm

> of the

> > > > > > > predictable. Indeed we are not even in the

unpredictable

> > world of

> > > > > > > chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the

> > > non-predictable,

> > > > > > > an altogether much more interesting place. "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > it's right here, now. and you know it. you are it. you

are

> > home. and

> > > > > > home is never for a nano-micro-second of spacetime

absent or

> > > > > > unattentive. you can't believe yourself. " maybe there is

an

> > > invisible

> > > > > > hand that moves all selves to join and become one

and.... " ,

> > > > > > ...fundamentally you know better. you are truth... truth,

> > > reality, it,

> > > > > > I, them, there, and those. and the game is to pretend

that you

> > have

> > > > > > not only agreed to play the game, but that you set it up

in the

> > > first

> > > > > > place. I'm vile this way. I'm you and he and she and it

and you

> > > > > > probably don't believe me because you think that I am

someone

> > other

> > > > > > than yourself, who is the only one you can trust.. and

you still

> > > have

> > > > > > the feeling that the fundamental self of you is lying

somehow or

> > > > > > someway, and you gotta find some way out of this rat's

nest

> > > > > > merry-go-round of noisome, nauseating...what????? what's

the

> > > problem?

> > > > > > where are you going to go? what are you going to 'do'

then (at

> > > > > > enlightenment, or fulfillment, or retirement, or upon

> meeting " The

> > > > > > One " ..woman, guru, financial adviser, or next really

cool neat

> > > thing.

> > > > > > you will 'do' and 'go' exactly and only where you go and

> what you

> > > > > > do...just like now. but you get to skip over the

pondering and

> > > > > > suffering and power need stuff. descriptions are invalid

at this

> > > > > > point. and there is no such thing as lying or telling the

> > truth..who

> > > > > > could do such a thing? and to whom would they speak? or

what

> would

> > > > > > they speak? the paradox of paradoxes is that there

really are no

> > > > > > paradoxes. but for an interesting logic type utilised by

> > conceptual

> > > > > > activity, paradoxes are fantasy. well, then, everything

and

> > > everybody

> > > > > > is as well. and it's the predictability of

nonpredictability

> > and the

> > > > > > nonpredictability of preductability that is the rub!

it's a

> > > beautiful

> > > > > > thing!

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> .b

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > we'll take your

> > > > >

> > > > > word for it

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > you had no choice.

> > >

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(ping)

> > >

> > > we'll take your

> > >

> > > word for that, too

> > >

> > > (pong)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > naturally, I knew you would.

> >

> > you know your a player

> >

> > so are 'they'

> >

> > .......you're on the Gong

Show.

> >

> > GONG!

> >

> > .b

> >

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(ping)

>

> you gongged out an eternity ago.

>

> that's why your (angry clown) ghost is still haunting

>

> this show. it wants another chance.

>

> but at this rate, it will never get it.

>

(pong)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

(your turn, but don't get too excited, because i'll be quitting

pretty

> soon:)

>

hey, there's always someone just waiting to get in the game...

and you usually forget you're playing when the Goddess of Life,

Maya, passes by ;-) (cause you get sooooooooooo involved in looking

at her) LOL

Love,

Anna

December 16, 2006

Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@>

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta ,

> > > " skywhilds "

> > > > > > > > > <skywords@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deus ex machina is a Latin phrase

> that is

> > > > > used to

> > > > > > > > > > > describe an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unexpected, artificial, or

> improbable

> > > > character,

> > > > > > > > > > device, or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > event

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > introduced suddenly in a work of

> > fiction or

> > > > > > drama to

> > > > > > > > > > > resolve a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation or untangle a plot (e.g.,

> > > having the

> > > > > > > > > protagonist

> > > > > > > > > > > > wake

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realize it was all a dream, or an

> angel

> > > > suddenly

> > > > > > > > > > > appearing to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the plot problems of a story

> that the

> > > > > > characters

> > > > > > > > > > > can't or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > won't

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve on their own). The phrase

> has been

> > > > > > > extended to

> > > > > > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolution to a story which does

> not

> > pay due

> > > > > > regard

> > > > > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > story's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internal logic and is so unlikely

> that it

> > > > > > challenges

> > > > > > > > > > > > > suspension of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disbelief, allowing the author to

> > > conclude the

> > > > > > story

> > > > > > > > > > with an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unlikely,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > though more palatable, ending. In

> modern

> > > > > terms the

> > > > > > > > > deus ex

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > machina has

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also come to describe a being,

> object or

> > > event

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > suddenly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > appears

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and solves a seemingly insoluble

> > > > difficulty (e.

> > > > > > > g. the

> > > > > > > > > > > cavalry

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arriving). A classic example of

> this

> > type of

> > > > > > deus ex

> > > > > > > > > > > > machina is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Homer's Odyssey; a more

> contemporary

> > > > example is

> > > > > > > > Michael

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crichton's The

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andromeda Strain. While in

> > storytelling this

> > > > > might

> > > > > > > > seem

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unfulfilling,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in real life this type of figure

> might be

> > > > > > > welcome and

> > > > > > > > > > > heroic,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > due to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the low probability of such an

> event

> > > > occurring.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It sometimes also can mean,

> usually in an

> > > > > > > episode of a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sitcom, an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > event or plot device which does not

> > > > necessarily

> > > > > > > > > solve the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflict of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the plot, but demotes the character

> (s)

> > > > into the

> > > > > > > > > financial,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emotional,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mental, or geographical state they

> were in

> > > > > > when the

> > > > > > > > > > episode

> > > > > > > > > > > > > began,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > restoring the series' status quo in

> > order to

> > > > > more

> > > > > > > > easily

> > > > > > > > > > > allow

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation in the next episode.

> > However, this

> > > > > > usage,

> > > > > > > > > > which is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somewhat

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different from classical deus ex

> > machina, is

> > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > commonly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > called the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " reset button technique " .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The notion of deus ex machina can

> also be

> > > > > > > applied to a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > revelation

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > within a story experienced by a

> character

> > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > involves the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > individual realizing that the

> complicated,

> > > > > > sometimes

> > > > > > > > > > > > perilous or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mundane and perhaps seemingly

> unrelated

> > > > > > sequence of

> > > > > > > > > events

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leading up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to this point in the story are

> joined

> > > together

> > > > > > > by some

> > > > > > > > > > > > profound

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concept. Thus the unexpected and

> timely

> > > > > > > > intervention is

> > > > > > > > > > > aimed

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning of the story rather than a

> > physical

> > > > > event

> > > > > > > > in the

> > > > > > > > > > > plot.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may more accurately be described

> as a plot

> > > > > twist.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Greek tragedian Euripides is

> > > notorious for

> > > > > > using

> > > > > > > > > > > this plot

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > device.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first person known to have

> > > criticized the

> > > > > > > > device was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aristotle in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Poetics, where he argues that

> a good

> > > > tragedy

> > > > > > > must

> > > > > > > > > > remain

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plausible.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's unbelievable.that's a

> tragedy! as

> > > > > > unremainingly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > inplausible as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it seems. Ari always was sort of a

> party

> > > pooper.

> > > > > > maybe

> > > > > > > > > > > he'll be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different whenever he gets rebooted

> into

> > > > windows.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " be a clown, be a clown, "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how does it go, bob?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VERSE

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll remember forever,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was but three,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mama, who was clever.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remarking to me….

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If son when you're grown up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You want ev'rything nice

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got your future sewn up

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you take this advice…

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 1

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Act the fool play the calf

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always have the last laugh

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear the cap and the bells

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll rate with all the best

> swells

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a doctor, folks'll face

> you with

> > > > dread

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a dentist, they'll be

> glad when

> > > > you're

> > > > > > > dead

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll get a bigger hand if you can

> stand on

> > > > > your head

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 2

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crazy buffoon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the demoiselles'll all swoon

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dress in huge baggy pants

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll ride the road to romance

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A butcher or a baker ladies never

> embrace

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A barber or a beau would be a social

> disgrace

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They all'll come to call if you can

> fall

> > on your

> > > > > face

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 3

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show `em tricks tell `em jokes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll only stop with top folks

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crack jackanapes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll imitate you like apes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a great composer with your rent

> in

> > > arrears?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a major poet and you'll owe it

> for

> > years?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When crowds'll pay to giggle if you

> wiggle

> > > > your ears

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 4

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you just make `em roar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Watch your mountebank soar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear a painted moustache

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you're sure to make a big splash

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A college education I should never

> propose

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A bachelor's degree won't even keep

> you in

> > > clo'es

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But millions you will win if you can

> spin on

> > > > > your nose

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 5

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the poor silly ass

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always travel first class

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give `em quips, give `em fun

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll apy and say you're A1

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a farmer you've the

> weather to

> > > buck

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a gambler you'll be

> stuck with

> > > > > your luck

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Jack you'll never lack if you can

> quack

> > > like a

> > > > > > duck

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Quack, quack, quack, quack)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Thanks to Meggyweggs@ for lyrics]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eh?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the best part about pretending to be a

> clown, is

> > > > > > observing

> > > > > > > > > > > those who

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a

> riot

> > > alice!

> > > > > > > all the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique

> and

> > believe

> > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > know or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time

> > > missing the

> > > > > > > actual

> > > > > > > > > > > > jest; but,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rianting aloud as if amused at some

> subtlety of

> > > > nuance

> > > > > > > > that is

> > > > > > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own projection. and all a clown can do

> at the

> > > sight

> > > > > > is to

> > > > > > > > > smile.

> > > > > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a trick to be enjoyed!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not very nice

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggests an angry clown

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > no..the clown is not angry nor unangry,

> neither

> > > sad nor

> > > > > > > joyful.

> > > > > > > > > > he is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not nice and he is not nasty. whatever the

> clown

> > > > seems to

> > > > > > > > > > suggest, he

> > > > > > > > > > > > > reflects only what participants of the

> audience

> > > > > project, and

> > > > > > > > > > suggests

> > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing of himself. it's all one of the

> greatest of

> > > > > > illusions.

> > > > > > > > > > and the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > trick is to enjoy the trick to be enjoyed.

> casting

> > > > > judgments

> > > > > > > > > on the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > demeanor or imagined intent of the

> entertainment

> > is a

> > > > > > personal

> > > > > > > > > > problem

> > > > > > > > > > > > > only. only the smile of the Cheshire Cat or

> the

> > > twinkle

> > > > > > in the

> > > > > > > > > > eye of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the clown, remain after the show....for both

> > > > audience and

> > > > > > > > > master of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ceremonies. a circus of infinite rings, and

> all

> > circus

> > > > > > > acts play

> > > > > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > > > > own Ringmaster for better or worse, happier

> or

> > > > > otherwise. no

> > > > > > > > > one has

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to go to the circus...even if it's the only

> game in

> > > > > > > town...some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > players both do an do not 'go' anywhere by

> their

> > > > dance of

> > > > > > > > > quarks and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > excogitations in the swirling void. just

> smiles.

> > > > > suggests a

> > > > > > > > > > clown with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > a respectable grin but without an agenda.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > " a respectable grin but without an agenda "

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > sounds like this clown

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > changes horses in midstream:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > WRONG! read more carefully.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > " the best part about pretending to be a clown,

> is

> > > > observing

> > > > > > > > > those who

> > > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot

> alice!

> > > > all the

> > > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and

> > believe they

> > > > > > know or

> > > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time

> missing the

> > > > actual

> > > > > > > jest "

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > a pretty rock solid hidden agenda!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > the 'audience' is the party with the agenda. the

> clown

> > > > merely

> > > > > > > > observes

> > > > > > > > > > > this unquestionable truth and smiles, without

> posing his

> > > > > beliefs

> > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > what they are doing onto them, which is of course

> > exactly

> > > > > > and only

> > > > > > > > > > > what the clowns audience is doing, and further

> trying to

> > > > > > > > persuade that

> > > > > > > > > > > same clown that they are not doing, but that they

> > have the

> > > > > > > > inside dope

> > > > > > > > > > > on the clowns 'motives', which in truth are not

> present

> > > > in any

> > > > > > > way.

> > > > > > > > > > > the clown is motiveless.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (next he'll say, and rightly so, that " changing

> > > horses in

> > > > > > > > midstream "

> > > > > > > > > > > > is precisely what the clown is all about

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > no. that is what you have said.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > not just the clown

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > not just the clown)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > just you

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > just you

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > it's all just you

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > .......and it's not between the

> > > lines.....

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > will have to take your

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > most reliabe word for it

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I'm untrustworthy....just like everyone and

> everything else.

> > > > > because

> > > > > > > > > one can never fulfill the trust of another. the only

> one

> > that

> > > > > > one can

> > > > > > > > > trust, is oneself...but one never does, while all

> the time

> > > > > > saying that

> > > > > > > > > they do. no one can believe themselves. themselves is

> > just too

> > > > > > > > > unbelievable. just so. love your neighbor as

> yourself,

> > just as

> > > > > > soon as

> > > > > > > > > you know who that is. and it's the booby-prize.it's

> the

> > > > moonlight

> > > > > > > > > madness blue light special, on sale while riding on

> the

> > > magical

> > > > > > > > > mystery tour of the life. one must not believe

> anything one

> > > > > doesn't

> > > > > > > > > know fully and completely as an aspect of their own

> being.

> > > It's

> > > > > > really

> > > > > > > > > not a big deal nor not much of 'thing' at all....it's

> > groovy!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .b

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > will have to take your

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > most reliabe word for it

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > but...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > most probably know

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The Liar Paradox:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As stated in the book of Paul in the Bible: " One of

> > > themselves, a

> > > > > > > > prophet oftheir own, said, 'Cretans are always

> liars. . . .' "

> > > > (Titus

> > > > > > > > 1:12)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Interpret this as a Cretan saying, " Everything a Cretan

> > says is

> > > > > > false. "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Is what the Cretan has said true or false?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is bob, therefore, a Cretan?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > no, said A, he's just a French Canadian:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A: .b is a French Canadian. he says all French

> Canadians are

> > > > liars.

> > > > > > > > But, he is a liar, and thus he is lying. If he is

> lying,

> > French

> > > > > > > > Canadians are not liars and thus he is telling the

> truth.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I made a friend. he is called Steve. Steve is a duck.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > B: Hi A, just so you know.

> > > > > > > > .b is neither lying, nor telling the truth.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He is merely making a false statement.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > C: .b cannot be telling the truth as this would

> > contradict the

> > > > > > > > statement that he himself (being French Canadian) is a

> liar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If .b is lying, this is acceptable as there are more

> > > possibilities

> > > > > > > > than just ALL are liars or NONE are liars.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He is lying that ALL are liars but SOME could be

> liars, of

> > which

> > > > > he is

> > > > > > > > one, therefore cannot be assumed automatically to be

> > telling the

> > > > > truth

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > &

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here's another andgle, for you & glers, and it pretty

> much sums

> > > > > up what

> > > > > > > > we're doing here @ Nis House (in case you're too lazy

> to

> > read it

> > > > > all,

> > > > > > > > here's the punch line: " Indeed we are not even in the

> > > > unpredictable

> > > > > > > > world of chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm

> of the

> > > > > > > > non-predictable, an altogether much more interesting

> place. " ):

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " Do you remember the old philosophical paradox about

> lying

> > > > > Cretans? It

> > > > > > > > goes like this: all Cretans are liars, I am a Cretan,

> > > > therefore I am

> > > > > > > > lying. Am I a Cretan? Before you get tied up in

> logical knots

> > > > trying

> > > > > > > > to solve this paradoxical statement, let me give you a

> > much more

> > > > > > > > interesting idea to play with. All Cretans, like the

> rest of

> > > > us, can

> > > > > > > > lie: we can make things seem other than they are; we

> can tell

> > > > > stories;

> > > > > > > > we can invent new ways of understanding; we can lie.

> It is the

> > > > > process

> > > > > > > > of deception, making one thing stand for another,

> creating

> > > > > metaphors,

> > > > > > > > or inventing axioms that makes communication possible.

> The

> > > > study of

> > > > > > > > signs and symbols, as Umberto Eco observes 'is in

> > principle the

> > > > > > > > discipline studying everything which can be used in

> order to

> > > lie.'

> > > > > > > > (Eco, 1976).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " The fact that we can lie is another way of saying

> that we can

> > > > play

> > > > > > > > the game by the rules, we can cheat, or we can invent

> new

> > > > rules. We

> > > > > > > > owe this insight into the nature of communication—as a

> kind of

> > > > game

> > > > > > > > with rules—to the enigmatic philosopher Wittgenstein

> > > > (Wittgenstein,

> > > > > > > > 1953). This insight explains why the old paradigm,

> based

> > on the

> > > > > ideas

> > > > > > > > of cause and effect, did not work. People are not

> affected by

> > > > > > > > messages, that is altogether the wrong way to describe

> what

> > > > happens.

> > > > > > > > People read messages using the range of rules they have

> > > > available to

> > > > > > > > them and which seem appropriate at the time. So when

> we study

> > > > > > > > communication, we are studying rules made by people.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " This means that our research has moved out of the

> realm

> > of the

> > > > > > > > predictable. Indeed we are not even in the

> unpredictable

> > > world of

> > > > > > > > chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the

> > > > non-predictable,

> > > > > > > > an altogether much more interesting place. "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > it's right here, now. and you know it. you are it. you

> are

> > > home. and

> > > > > > > home is never for a nano-micro-second of spacetime

> absent or

> > > > > > > unattentive. you can't believe yourself. " maybe there is

> an

> > > > invisible

> > > > > > > hand that moves all selves to join and become one

> and.... " ,

> > > > > > > ...fundamentally you know better. you are truth... truth,

> > > > reality, it,

> > > > > > > I, them, there, and those. and the game is to pretend

> that you

> > > have

> > > > > > > not only agreed to play the game, but that you set it up

> in the

> > > > first

> > > > > > > place. I'm vile this way. I'm you and he and she and it

> and you

> > > > > > > probably don't believe me because you think that I am

> someone

> > > other

> > > > > > > than yourself, who is the only one you can trust.. and

> you still

> > > > have

> > > > > > > the feeling that the fundamental self of you is lying

> somehow or

> > > > > > > someway, and you gotta find some way out of this rat's

> nest

> > > > > > > merry-go-round of noisome, nauseating...what????? what's

> the

> > > > problem?

> > > > > > > where are you going to go? what are you going to 'do'

> then (at

> > > > > > > enlightenment, or fulfillment, or retirement, or upon

> > meeting " The

> > > > > > > One " ..woman, guru, financial adviser, or next really

> cool neat

> > > > thing.

> > > > > > > you will 'do' and 'go' exactly and only where you go and

> > what you

> > > > > > > do...just like now. but you get to skip over the

> pondering and

> > > > > > > suffering and power need stuff. descriptions are invalid

> at this

> > > > > > > point. and there is no such thing as lying or telling the

> > > truth..who

> > > > > > > could do such a thing? and to whom would they speak? or

> what

> > would

> > > > > > > they speak? the paradox of paradoxes is that there

> really are no

> > > > > > > paradoxes. but for an interesting logic type utilised by

> > > conceptual

> > > > > > > activity, paradoxes are fantasy. well, then, everything

> and

> > > > everybody

> > > > > > > is as well. and it's the predictability of

> nonpredictability

> > > and the

> > > > > > > nonpredictability of preductability that is the rub!

> it's a

> > > > beautiful

> > > > > > > thing!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > .b

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > we'll take your

> > > > > >

> > > > > > word for it

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > you had no choice.

> > > >

> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> (ping)

> > > >

> > > > we'll take your

> > > >

> > > > word for that, too

> > > >

> > > > (pong)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > naturally, I knew you would.

> > >

> > > you know your a player

> > >

> > > so are 'they'

> > >

> > > .......you're on the Gong

> Show.

> > >

> > > GONG!

> > >

> > > .b

> > >

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(ping)

> >

> > you gongged out an eternity ago.

> >

> > that's why your (angry clown) ghost is still haunting

> >

> > this show. it wants another chance.

> >

> > but at this rate, it will never get it.

> >

> > (pong)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> > (your turn, but don't get too excited, because i'll be quitting

> pretty

> > soon:)

> >

>

> hey, there's always someone just waiting to get in the game...

> and you usually forget you're playing when the Goddess of Life,

> Maya, passes by ;-) (cause you get sooooooooooo involved in looking

> at her) LOL

>

> Love,

>

> Anna

>

:-)

yes...we have here one serious boy. mayhap that some day he will

glimpse what it is that has him buffaloed into believing that he has

some sort of handle on other people. this is always the illusion of

the lost. seeing specks in the eyes of others while missing the

disabling log that beclouds their own vision. he haunts and accuses

others of haunting. he's angered and accuses others of anger. he says

he will soon quit to those who quit long ago. it's sad really. but

then it is also just a game. games are for fun. he feels he is losing

and gets infuriated. try as one may, one cannot convince him that it

only a game of chance and myrth. over-involvement with oneself and

one's beliefs, emotions and misplaced certainties is the most common

cause of the disorder here displayed. once it is seen that the 'who'

he identifies with is but a figment of an imagination of a fictitious

dream character, he will awaken, arise, and quit being such a goof.

then perhaps he can play again without getting puffy and upset about

his 'own' winning or losing at ring-around-the-rosie with himself. now

that is a losing game.

.b

Sign In

.bob (NOT a Cretan!) in da (realm of the unpredictable) house

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