Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > <skywords@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > <skywords@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > > > " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > > " skywhilds " > > > > > > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deus ex machina is a Latin phrase > > that is > > > > > > used to > > > > > > > > > > > > describe an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unexpected, artificial, or > > improbable > > > > > character, > > > > > > > > > > > device, or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > event > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > introduced suddenly in a work of > > > fiction or > > > > > > > drama to > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation or untangle a plot (e.g., > > > > having the > > > > > > > > > > protagonist > > > > > > > > > > > > > wake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realize it was all a dream, or an > > angel > > > > > suddenly > > > > > > > > > > > > appearing to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the plot problems of a story > > that the > > > > > > > characters > > > > > > > > > > > > can't or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > won't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve on their own). The phrase > > has been > > > > > > > > extended to > > > > > > > > > > > refer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolution to a story which does > > not > > > pay due > > > > > > > regard > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > story's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internal logic and is so unlikely > > that it > > > > > > > challenges > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suspension of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disbelief, allowing the author to > > > > conclude the > > > > > > > story > > > > > > > > > > > with an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unlikely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > though more palatable, ending. In > > modern > > > > > > terms the > > > > > > > > > > deus ex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > machina has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also come to describe a being, > > object or > > > > event > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > suddenly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appears > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and solves a seemingly insoluble > > > > > difficulty (e. > > > > > > > > g. the > > > > > > > > > > > > cavalry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arriving). A classic example of > > this > > > type of > > > > > > > deus ex > > > > > > > > > > > > > machina is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Homer's Odyssey; a more > > contemporary > > > > > example is > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crichton's The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andromeda Strain. While in > > > storytelling this > > > > > > might > > > > > > > > > seem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unfulfilling, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in real life this type of figure > > might be > > > > > > > > welcome and > > > > > > > > > > > > heroic, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > due to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the low probability of such an > > event > > > > > occurring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It sometimes also can mean, > > usually in an > > > > > > > > episode of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sitcom, an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > event or plot device which does not > > > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > > > solve the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflict of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the plot, but demotes the character > > (s) > > > > > into the > > > > > > > > > > financial, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emotional, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mental, or geographical state they > > were in > > > > > > > when the > > > > > > > > > > > episode > > > > > > > > > > > > > > began, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > restoring the series' status quo in > > > order to > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > easily > > > > > > > > > > > > allow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation in the next episode. > > > However, this > > > > > > > usage, > > > > > > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somewhat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different from classical deus ex > > > machina, is > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > commonly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > called the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " reset button technique " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The notion of deus ex machina can > > also be > > > > > > > > applied to a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > revelation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > within a story experienced by a > > character > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > involves the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > individual realizing that the > > complicated, > > > > > > > sometimes > > > > > > > > > > > > > perilous or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mundane and perhaps seemingly > > unrelated > > > > > > > sequence of > > > > > > > > > > events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leading up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to this point in the story are > > joined > > > > together > > > > > > > > by some > > > > > > > > > > > > > profound > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concept. Thus the unexpected and > > timely > > > > > > > > > intervention is > > > > > > > > > > > > aimed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning of the story rather than a > > > physical > > > > > > event > > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > > plot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may more accurately be described > > as a plot > > > > > > twist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Greek tragedian Euripides is > > > > notorious for > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > > > > > this plot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > device. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first person known to have > > > > criticized the > > > > > > > > > device was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aristotle in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Poetics, where he argues that > > a good > > > > > tragedy > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > > remain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plausible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's unbelievable.that's a > > tragedy! as > > > > > > > unremainingly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inplausible as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it seems. Ari always was sort of a > > party > > > > pooper. > > > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > he'll be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different whenever he gets rebooted > > into > > > > > windows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " be a clown, be a clown, " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how does it go, bob? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VERSE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll remember forever, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was but three, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mama, who was clever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remarking to me…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If son when you're grown up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You want ev'rything nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got your future sewn up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you take this advice… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Act the fool play the calf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always have the last laugh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear the cap and the bells > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll rate with all the best > > swells > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a doctor, folks'll face > > you with > > > > > dread > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a dentist, they'll be > > glad when > > > > > you're > > > > > > > > dead > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll get a bigger hand if you can > > stand on > > > > > > your head > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crazy buffoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the demoiselles'll all swoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dress in huge baggy pants > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll ride the road to romance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A butcher or a baker ladies never > > embrace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A barber or a beau would be a social > > disgrace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They all'll come to call if you can > > fall > > > on your > > > > > > face > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show `em tricks tell `em jokes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll only stop with top folks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crack jackanapes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll imitate you like apes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a great composer with your rent > > in > > > > arrears? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a major poet and you'll owe it > > for > > > years? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When crowds'll pay to giggle if you > > wiggle > > > > > your ears > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you just make `em roar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Watch your mountebank soar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear a painted moustache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you're sure to make a big splash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A college education I should never > > propose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A bachelor's degree won't even keep > > you in > > > > clo'es > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But millions you will win if you can > > spin on > > > > > > your nose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the poor silly ass > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always travel first class > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give `em quips, give `em fun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll apy and say you're A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a farmer you've the > > weather to > > > > buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a gambler you'll be > > stuck with > > > > > > your luck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Jack you'll never lack if you can > > quack > > > > like a > > > > > > > duck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Quack, quack, quack, quack) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Thanks to Meggyweggs@ for lyrics] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the best part about pretending to be a > > clown, is > > > > > > > observing > > > > > > > > > > > > those who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a > > riot > > > > alice! > > > > > > > > all the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique > > and > > > believe > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > know or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time > > > > missing the > > > > > > > > actual > > > > > > > > > > > > > jest; but, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rianting aloud as if amused at some > > subtlety of > > > > > nuance > > > > > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own projection. and all a clown can do > > at the > > > > sight > > > > > > > is to > > > > > > > > > > smile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a trick to be enjoyed! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not very nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggests an angry clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no..the clown is not angry nor unangry, > > neither > > > > sad nor > > > > > > > > joyful. > > > > > > > > > > > he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not nice and he is not nasty. whatever the > > clown > > > > > seems to > > > > > > > > > > > suggest, he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reflects only what participants of the > > audience > > > > > > project, and > > > > > > > > > > > suggests > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing of himself. it's all one of the > > greatest of > > > > > > > illusions. > > > > > > > > > > > and the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trick is to enjoy the trick to be enjoyed. > > casting > > > > > > judgments > > > > > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demeanor or imagined intent of the > > entertainment > > > is a > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only. only the smile of the Cheshire Cat or > > the > > > > twinkle > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > eye of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the clown, remain after the show....for both > > > > > audience and > > > > > > > > > > master of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ceremonies. a circus of infinite rings, and > > all > > > circus > > > > > > > > acts play > > > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own Ringmaster for better or worse, happier > > or > > > > > > otherwise. no > > > > > > > > > > one has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to go to the circus...even if it's the only > > game in > > > > > > > > town...some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > players both do an do not 'go' anywhere by > > their > > > > > dance of > > > > > > > > > > quarks and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > excogitations in the swirling void. just > > smiles. > > > > > > suggests a > > > > > > > > > > > clown with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a respectable grin but without an agenda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " a respectable grin but without an agenda " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sounds like this clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes horses in midstream: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WRONG! read more carefully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " the best part about pretending to be a clown, > > is > > > > > observing > > > > > > > > > > those who > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot > > alice! > > > > > all the > > > > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and > > > believe they > > > > > > > know or > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time > > missing the > > > > > actual > > > > > > > > jest " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a pretty rock solid hidden agenda! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'audience' is the party with the agenda. the > > clown > > > > > merely > > > > > > > > > observes > > > > > > > > > > > > this unquestionable truth and smiles, without > > posing his > > > > > > beliefs > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > what they are doing onto them, which is of course > > > exactly > > > > > > > and only > > > > > > > > > > > > what the clowns audience is doing, and further > > trying to > > > > > > > > > persuade that > > > > > > > > > > > > same clown that they are not doing, but that they > > > have the > > > > > > > > > inside dope > > > > > > > > > > > > on the clowns 'motives', which in truth are not > > present > > > > > in any > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > the clown is motiveless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (next he'll say, and rightly so, that " changing > > > > horses in > > > > > > > > > midstream " > > > > > > > > > > > > > is precisely what the clown is all about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no. that is what you have said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not just the clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not just the clown) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's all just you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......and it's not between the > > > > lines..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will have to take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most reliabe word for it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm untrustworthy....just like everyone and > > everything else. > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > one can never fulfill the trust of another. the only > > one > > > that > > > > > > > one can > > > > > > > > > > trust, is oneself...but one never does, while all > > the time > > > > > > > saying that > > > > > > > > > > they do. no one can believe themselves. themselves is > > > just too > > > > > > > > > > unbelievable. just so. love your neighbor as > > yourself, > > > just as > > > > > > > soon as > > > > > > > > > > you know who that is. and it's the booby-prize.it's > > the > > > > > moonlight > > > > > > > > > > madness blue light special, on sale while riding on > > the > > > > magical > > > > > > > > > > mystery tour of the life. one must not believe > > anything one > > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > > > > know fully and completely as an aspect of their own > > being. > > > > It's > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > > not a big deal nor not much of 'thing' at all....it's > > > groovy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will have to take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most reliabe word for it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most probably know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Liar Paradox: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As stated in the book of Paul in the Bible: " One of > > > > themselves, a > > > > > > > > > prophet oftheir own, said, 'Cretans are always > > liars. . . .' " > > > > > (Titus > > > > > > > > > 1:12) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interpret this as a Cretan saying, " Everything a Cretan > > > says is > > > > > > > false. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is what the Cretan has said true or false? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is bob, therefore, a Cretan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no, said A, he's just a French Canadian: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A: .b is a French Canadian. he says all French > > Canadians are > > > > > liars. > > > > > > > > > But, he is a liar, and thus he is lying. If he is > > lying, > > > French > > > > > > > > > Canadians are not liars and thus he is telling the > > truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made a friend. he is called Steve. Steve is a duck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B: Hi A, just so you know. > > > > > > > > > .b is neither lying, nor telling the truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is merely making a false statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > C: .b cannot be telling the truth as this would > > > contradict the > > > > > > > > > statement that he himself (being French Canadian) is a > > liar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If .b is lying, this is acceptable as there are more > > > > possibilities > > > > > > > > > than just ALL are liars or NONE are liars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is lying that ALL are liars but SOME could be > > liars, of > > > which > > > > > > he is > > > > > > > > > one, therefore cannot be assumed automatically to be > > > telling the > > > > > > truth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's another andgle, for you & glers, and it pretty > > much sums > > > > > > up what > > > > > > > > > we're doing here @ Nis House (in case you're too lazy > > to > > > read it > > > > > > all, > > > > > > > > > here's the punch line: " Indeed we are not even in the > > > > > unpredictable > > > > > > > > > world of chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm > > of the > > > > > > > > > non-predictable, an altogether much more interesting > > place. " ): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you remember the old philosophical paradox about > > lying > > > > > > Cretans? It > > > > > > > > > goes like this: all Cretans are liars, I am a Cretan, > > > > > therefore I am > > > > > > > > > lying. Am I a Cretan? Before you get tied up in > > logical knots > > > > > trying > > > > > > > > > to solve this paradoxical statement, let me give you a > > > much more > > > > > > > > > interesting idea to play with. All Cretans, like the > > rest of > > > > > us, can > > > > > > > > > lie: we can make things seem other than they are; we > > can tell > > > > > > stories; > > > > > > > > > we can invent new ways of understanding; we can lie. > > It is the > > > > > > process > > > > > > > > > of deception, making one thing stand for another, > > creating > > > > > > metaphors, > > > > > > > > > or inventing axioms that makes communication possible. > > The > > > > > study of > > > > > > > > > signs and symbols, as Umberto Eco observes 'is in > > > principle the > > > > > > > > > discipline studying everything which can be used in > > order to > > > > lie.' > > > > > > > > > (Eco, 1976). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The fact that we can lie is another way of saying > > that we can > > > > > play > > > > > > > > > the game by the rules, we can cheat, or we can invent > > new > > > > > rules. We > > > > > > > > > owe this insight into the nature of communication—as a > > kind of > > > > > game > > > > > > > > > with rules—to the enigmatic philosopher Wittgenstein > > > > > (Wittgenstein, > > > > > > > > > 1953). This insight explains why the old paradigm, > > based > > > on the > > > > > > ideas > > > > > > > > > of cause and effect, did not work. People are not > > affected by > > > > > > > > > messages, that is altogether the wrong way to describe > > what > > > > > happens. > > > > > > > > > People read messages using the range of rules they have > > > > > available to > > > > > > > > > them and which seem appropriate at the time. So when > > we study > > > > > > > > > communication, we are studying rules made by people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This means that our research has moved out of the > > realm > > > of the > > > > > > > > > predictable. Indeed we are not even in the > > unpredictable > > > > world of > > > > > > > > > chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the > > > > > non-predictable, > > > > > > > > > an altogether much more interesting place. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's right here, now. and you know it. you are it. you > > are > > > > home. and > > > > > > > > home is never for a nano-micro-second of spacetime > > absent or > > > > > > > > unattentive. you can't believe yourself. " maybe there is > > an > > > > > invisible > > > > > > > > hand that moves all selves to join and become one > > and.... " , > > > > > > > > ...fundamentally you know better. you are truth... truth, > > > > > reality, it, > > > > > > > > I, them, there, and those. and the game is to pretend > > that you > > > > have > > > > > > > > not only agreed to play the game, but that you set it up > > in the > > > > > first > > > > > > > > place. I'm vile this way. I'm you and he and she and it > > and you > > > > > > > > probably don't believe me because you think that I am > > someone > > > > other > > > > > > > > than yourself, who is the only one you can trust.. and > > you still > > > > > have > > > > > > > > the feeling that the fundamental self of you is lying > > somehow or > > > > > > > > someway, and you gotta find some way out of this rat's > > nest > > > > > > > > merry-go-round of noisome, nauseating...what????? what's > > the > > > > > problem? > > > > > > > > where are you going to go? what are you going to 'do' > > then (at > > > > > > > > enlightenment, or fulfillment, or retirement, or upon > > > meeting " The > > > > > > > > One " ..woman, guru, financial adviser, or next really > > cool neat > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > you will 'do' and 'go' exactly and only where you go and > > > what you > > > > > > > > do...just like now. but you get to skip over the > > pondering and > > > > > > > > suffering and power need stuff. descriptions are invalid > > at this > > > > > > > > point. and there is no such thing as lying or telling the > > > > truth..who > > > > > > > > could do such a thing? and to whom would they speak? or > > what > > > would > > > > > > > > they speak? the paradox of paradoxes is that there > > really are no > > > > > > > > paradoxes. but for an interesting logic type utilised by > > > > conceptual > > > > > > > > activity, paradoxes are fantasy. well, then, everything > > and > > > > > everybody > > > > > > > > is as well. and it's the predictability of > > nonpredictability > > > > and the > > > > > > > > nonpredictability of preductability that is the rub! > > it's a > > > > > beautiful > > > > > > > > thing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we'll take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > word for it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you had no choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > (ping) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we'll take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > word for that, too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (pong)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naturally, I knew you would. > > > > > > > > > > > > you know your a player > > > > > > > > > > > > so are 'they' > > > > > > > > > > > > .......you're on the Gong > > Show. > > > > > > > > > > > > GONG! > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(ping) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you gongged out an eternity ago. > > > > > > > > > that's why your (angry clown) ghost is still haunting > > > > > > > > > this show. it wants another chance. > > > > > > > > > but at this rate, it will never get it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (pong)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (your turn, but don't get too excited, because i'll be quitting > > pretty > > > soon:) > > > > > > > > > hey, there's always someone just waiting to get in the game... > > and you usually forget you're playing when the Goddess of Life, > > Maya, passes by ;-) (cause you get sooooooooooo involved in looking > > at her) LOL > > > > Love, > > > > Anna > > > > > :-) > > yes...we have here one serious boy. mayhap that some day he will > glimpse what it is that has him buffaloed into believing that he has > some sort of handle on other people. this is always the illusion of > the lost. seeing specks in the eyes of others while missing the > disabling log that beclouds their own vision. he haunts and accuses > others of haunting. he's angered and accuses others of anger. he says > he will soon quit to those who quit long ago. it's sad really. but > then it is also just a game. games are for fun. he feels he is losing > and gets infuriated. try as one may, one cannot convince him that it > only a game of chance and myrth. over-involvement with oneself and > one's beliefs, emotions and misplaced certainties is the most common > cause of the disorder here displayed. once it is seen that the 'who' > he identifies with is but a figment of an imagination of a fictitious > dream character, he will awaken, arise, and quit being such a goof. > then perhaps he can play again without getting puffy and upset about > his 'own' winning or losing at ring-around-the-rosie with himself. now > that is a losing game. > > > .b > yes, anna, they've found that the feminine influence tends to reduce men's hostile instincts. .b just admitted to having dropped the ball and to having been unaware of having been describing himself all along. that's quite a heroic admission. i hope, anna, that you're impressed! i know i am! no point in continuing, now. although i'm afraid he may forget, and start playing again, soon. but little will he know, semi-tragically, that i won't be in the room with him. maybe you, anna, can take over from here...? maybe you can talk some sense into the old boy. bye. 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Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > <skywords@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > > " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > > > > " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > > > " skywhilds " > > > > > > > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deus ex machina is a Latin phrase > > > that is > > > > > > > used to > > > > > > > > > > > > > describe an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unexpected, artificial, or > > > improbable > > > > > > character, > > > > > > > > > > > > device, or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > event > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > introduced suddenly in a work of > > > > fiction or > > > > > > > > drama to > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation or untangle a plot (e.g., > > > > > having the > > > > > > > > > > > protagonist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realize it was all a dream, or an > > > angel > > > > > > suddenly > > > > > > > > > > > > > appearing to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the plot problems of a story > > > that the > > > > > > > > characters > > > > > > > > > > > > > can't or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > won't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve on their own). The phrase > > > has been > > > > > > > > > extended to > > > > > > > > > > > > refer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolution to a story which does > > > not > > > > pay due > > > > > > > > regard > > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > story's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internal logic and is so unlikely > > > that it > > > > > > > > challenges > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suspension of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disbelief, allowing the author to > > > > > conclude the > > > > > > > > story > > > > > > > > > > > > with an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unlikely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > though more palatable, ending. In > > > modern > > > > > > > terms the > > > > > > > > > > > deus ex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > machina has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also come to describe a being, > > > object or > > > > > event > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > suddenly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appears > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and solves a seemingly insoluble > > > > > > difficulty (e. > > > > > > > > > g. the > > > > > > > > > > > > > cavalry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arriving). A classic example of > > > this > > > > type of > > > > > > > > deus ex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > machina is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Homer's Odyssey; a more > > > contemporary > > > > > > example is > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crichton's The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andromeda Strain. While in > > > > storytelling this > > > > > > > might > > > > > > > > > > seem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unfulfilling, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in real life this type of figure > > > might be > > > > > > > > > welcome and > > > > > > > > > > > > > heroic, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > due to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the low probability of such an > > > event > > > > > > occurring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It sometimes also can mean, > > > usually in an > > > > > > > > > episode of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sitcom, an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > event or plot device which does not > > > > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > > > > solve the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflict of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the plot, but demotes the character > > > (s) > > > > > > into the > > > > > > > > > > > financial, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emotional, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mental, or geographical state they > > > were in > > > > > > > > when the > > > > > > > > > > > > episode > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > began, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > restoring the series' status quo in > > > > order to > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > easily > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation in the next episode. > > > > However, this > > > > > > > > usage, > > > > > > > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somewhat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different from classical deus ex > > > > machina, is > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > commonly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > called the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " reset button technique " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The notion of deus ex machina can > > > also be > > > > > > > > > applied to a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > revelation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > within a story experienced by a > > > character > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > involves the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > individual realizing that the > > > complicated, > > > > > > > > sometimes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perilous or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mundane and perhaps seemingly > > > unrelated > > > > > > > > sequence of > > > > > > > > > > > events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leading up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to this point in the story are > > > joined > > > > > together > > > > > > > > > by some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > profound > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concept. Thus the unexpected and > > > timely > > > > > > > > > > intervention is > > > > > > > > > > > > > aimed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning of the story rather than a > > > > physical > > > > > > > event > > > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > plot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may more accurately be described > > > as a plot > > > > > > > twist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Greek tragedian Euripides is > > > > > notorious for > > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > > > > > > this plot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > device. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first person known to have > > > > > criticized the > > > > > > > > > > device was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aristotle in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Poetics, where he argues that > > > a good > > > > > > tragedy > > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > > > remain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plausible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's unbelievable.that's a > > > tragedy! as > > > > > > > > unremainingly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inplausible as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it seems. Ari always was sort of a > > > party > > > > > pooper. > > > > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > he'll be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different whenever he gets rebooted > > > into > > > > > > windows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " be a clown, be a clown, " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how does it go, bob? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VERSE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll remember forever, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was but three, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mama, who was clever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remarking to me…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If son when you're grown up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You want ev'rything nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got your future sewn up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you take this advice… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Act the fool play the calf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always have the last laugh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear the cap and the bells > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll rate with all the best > > > swells > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a doctor, folks'll face > > > you with > > > > > > dread > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a dentist, they'll be > > > glad when > > > > > > you're > > > > > > > > > dead > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll get a bigger hand if you can > > > stand on > > > > > > > your head > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crazy buffoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the demoiselles'll all swoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dress in huge baggy pants > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll ride the road to romance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A butcher or a baker ladies never > > > embrace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A barber or a beau would be a social > > > disgrace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They all'll come to call if you can > > > fall > > > > on your > > > > > > > face > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show `em tricks tell `em jokes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll only stop with top folks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crack jackanapes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll imitate you like apes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a great composer with your rent > > > in > > > > > arrears? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a major poet and you'll owe it > > > for > > > > years? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When crowds'll pay to giggle if you > > > wiggle > > > > > > your ears > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you just make `em roar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Watch your mountebank soar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear a painted moustache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you're sure to make a big splash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A college education I should never > > > propose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A bachelor's degree won't even keep > > > you in > > > > > clo'es > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But millions you will win if you can > > > spin on > > > > > > > your nose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the poor silly ass > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always travel first class > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give `em quips, give `em fun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll apy and say you're A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a farmer you've the > > > weather to > > > > > buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a gambler you'll be > > > stuck with > > > > > > > your luck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Jack you'll never lack if you can > > > quack > > > > > like a > > > > > > > > duck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Quack, quack, quack, quack) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Thanks to Meggyweggs@ for lyrics] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the best part about pretending to be a > > > clown, is > > > > > > > > observing > > > > > > > > > > > > > those who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a > > > riot > > > > > alice! > > > > > > > > > all the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique > > > and > > > > believe > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > know or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time > > > > > missing the > > > > > > > > > actual > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jest; but, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rianting aloud as if amused at some > > > subtlety of > > > > > > nuance > > > > > > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own projection. and all a clown can do > > > at the > > > > > sight > > > > > > > > is to > > > > > > > > > > > smile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a trick to be enjoyed! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not very nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggests an angry clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no..the clown is not angry nor unangry, > > > neither > > > > > sad nor > > > > > > > > > joyful. > > > > > > > > > > > > he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not nice and he is not nasty. whatever the > > > clown > > > > > > seems to > > > > > > > > > > > > suggest, he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reflects only what participants of the > > > audience > > > > > > > project, and > > > > > > > > > > > > suggests > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing of himself. it's all one of the > > > greatest of > > > > > > > > illusions. > > > > > > > > > > > > and the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trick is to enjoy the trick to be enjoyed. > > > casting > > > > > > > judgments > > > > > > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demeanor or imagined intent of the > > > entertainment > > > > is a > > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only. only the smile of the Cheshire Cat or > > > the > > > > > twinkle > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > > eye of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the clown, remain after the show....for both > > > > > > audience and > > > > > > > > > > > master of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ceremonies. a circus of infinite rings, and > > > all > > > > circus > > > > > > > > > acts play > > > > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own Ringmaster for better or worse, happier > > > or > > > > > > > otherwise. no > > > > > > > > > > > one has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to go to the circus...even if it's the only > > > game in > > > > > > > > > town...some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > players both do an do not 'go' anywhere by > > > their > > > > > > dance of > > > > > > > > > > > quarks and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > excogitations in the swirling void. just > > > smiles. > > > > > > > suggests a > > > > > > > > > > > > clown with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a respectable grin but without an agenda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " a respectable grin but without an agenda " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sounds like this clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes horses in midstream: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WRONG! read more carefully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " the best part about pretending to be a clown, > > > is > > > > > > observing > > > > > > > > > > > those who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot > > > alice! > > > > > > all the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and > > > > believe they > > > > > > > > know or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time > > > missing the > > > > > > actual > > > > > > > > > jest " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a pretty rock solid hidden agenda! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'audience' is the party with the agenda. the > > > clown > > > > > > merely > > > > > > > > > > observes > > > > > > > > > > > > > this unquestionable truth and smiles, without > > > posing his > > > > > > > beliefs > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > what they are doing onto them, which is of course > > > > exactly > > > > > > > > and only > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the clowns audience is doing, and further > > > trying to > > > > > > > > > > persuade that > > > > > > > > > > > > > same clown that they are not doing, but that they > > > > have the > > > > > > > > > > inside dope > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the clowns 'motives', which in truth are not > > > present > > > > > > in any > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > the clown is motiveless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (next he'll say, and rightly so, that " changing > > > > > horses in > > > > > > > > > > midstream " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is precisely what the clown is all about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no. that is what you have said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not just the clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not just the clown) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's all just you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......and it's not between the > > > > > lines..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will have to take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most reliabe word for it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm untrustworthy....just like everyone and > > > everything else. > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > > one can never fulfill the trust of another. the only > > > one > > > > that > > > > > > > > one can > > > > > > > > > > > trust, is oneself...but one never does, while all > > > the time > > > > > > > > saying that > > > > > > > > > > > they do. no one can believe themselves. themselves is > > > > just too > > > > > > > > > > > unbelievable. just so. love your neighbor as > > > yourself, > > > > just as > > > > > > > > soon as > > > > > > > > > > > you know who that is. and it's the booby-prize.it's > > > the > > > > > > moonlight > > > > > > > > > > > madness blue light special, on sale while riding on > > > the > > > > > magical > > > > > > > > > > > mystery tour of the life. one must not believe > > > anything one > > > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > > > > > know fully and completely as an aspect of their own > > > being. > > > > > It's > > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > > > not a big deal nor not much of 'thing' at all....it's > > > > groovy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will have to take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most reliabe word for it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most probably know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Liar Paradox: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As stated in the book of Paul in the Bible: " One of > > > > > themselves, a > > > > > > > > > > prophet oftheir own, said, 'Cretans are always > > > liars. . . .' " > > > > > > (Titus > > > > > > > > > > 1:12) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interpret this as a Cretan saying, " Everything a Cretan > > > > says is > > > > > > > > false. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is what the Cretan has said true or false? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is bob, therefore, a Cretan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no, said A, he's just a French Canadian: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A: .b is a French Canadian. he says all French > > > Canadians are > > > > > > liars. > > > > > > > > > > But, he is a liar, and thus he is lying. If he is > > > lying, > > > > French > > > > > > > > > > Canadians are not liars and thus he is telling the > > > truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made a friend. he is called Steve. Steve is a duck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B: Hi A, just so you know. > > > > > > > > > > .b is neither lying, nor telling the truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is merely making a false statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > C: .b cannot be telling the truth as this would > > > > contradict the > > > > > > > > > > statement that he himself (being French Canadian) is a > > > liar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If .b is lying, this is acceptable as there are more > > > > > possibilities > > > > > > > > > > than just ALL are liars or NONE are liars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is lying that ALL are liars but SOME could be > > > liars, of > > > > which > > > > > > > he is > > > > > > > > > > one, therefore cannot be assumed automatically to be > > > > telling the > > > > > > > truth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's another andgle, for you & glers, and it pretty > > > much sums > > > > > > > up what > > > > > > > > > > we're doing here @ Nis House (in case you're too lazy > > > to > > > > read it > > > > > > > all, > > > > > > > > > > here's the punch line: " Indeed we are not even in the > > > > > > unpredictable > > > > > > > > > > world of chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm > > > of the > > > > > > > > > > non-predictable, an altogether much more interesting > > > place. " ): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you remember the old philosophical paradox about > > > lying > > > > > > > Cretans? It > > > > > > > > > > goes like this: all Cretans are liars, I am a Cretan, > > > > > > therefore I am > > > > > > > > > > lying. Am I a Cretan? Before you get tied up in > > > logical knots > > > > > > trying > > > > > > > > > > to solve this paradoxical statement, let me give you a > > > > much more > > > > > > > > > > interesting idea to play with. All Cretans, like the > > > rest of > > > > > > us, can > > > > > > > > > > lie: we can make things seem other than they are; we > > > can tell > > > > > > > stories; > > > > > > > > > > we can invent new ways of understanding; we can lie. > > > It is the > > > > > > > process > > > > > > > > > > of deception, making one thing stand for another, > > > creating > > > > > > > metaphors, > > > > > > > > > > or inventing axioms that makes communication possible. > > > The > > > > > > study of > > > > > > > > > > signs and symbols, as Umberto Eco observes 'is in > > > > principle the > > > > > > > > > > discipline studying everything which can be used in > > > order to > > > > > lie.' > > > > > > > > > > (Eco, 1976). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The fact that we can lie is another way of saying > > > that we can > > > > > > play > > > > > > > > > > the game by the rules, we can cheat, or we can invent > > > new > > > > > > rules. We > > > > > > > > > > owe this insight into the nature of communication—as a > > > kind of > > > > > > game > > > > > > > > > > with rules—to the enigmatic philosopher Wittgenstein > > > > > > (Wittgenstein, > > > > > > > > > > 1953). This insight explains why the old paradigm, > > > based > > > > on the > > > > > > > ideas > > > > > > > > > > of cause and effect, did not work. People are not > > > affected by > > > > > > > > > > messages, that is altogether the wrong way to describe > > > what > > > > > > happens. > > > > > > > > > > People read messages using the range of rules they have > > > > > > available to > > > > > > > > > > them and which seem appropriate at the time. So when > > > we study > > > > > > > > > > communication, we are studying rules made by people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This means that our research has moved out of the > > > realm > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > > predictable. Indeed we are not even in the > > > unpredictable > > > > > world of > > > > > > > > > > chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the > > > > > > non-predictable, > > > > > > > > > > an altogether much more interesting place. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's right here, now. and you know it. you are it. you > > > are > > > > > home. and > > > > > > > > > home is never for a nano-micro-second of spacetime > > > absent or > > > > > > > > > unattentive. you can't believe yourself. " maybe there is > > > an > > > > > > invisible > > > > > > > > > hand that moves all selves to join and become one > > > and.... " , > > > > > > > > > ...fundamentally you know better. you are truth... truth, > > > > > > reality, it, > > > > > > > > > I, them, there, and those. and the game is to pretend > > > that you > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > not only agreed to play the game, but that you set it up > > > in the > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > place. I'm vile this way. I'm you and he and she and it > > > and you > > > > > > > > > probably don't believe me because you think that I am > > > someone > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > than yourself, who is the only one you can trust.. and > > > you still > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > the feeling that the fundamental self of you is lying > > > somehow or > > > > > > > > > someway, and you gotta find some way out of this rat's > > > nest > > > > > > > > > merry-go-round of noisome, nauseating...what????? what's > > > the > > > > > > problem? > > > > > > > > > where are you going to go? what are you going to 'do' > > > then (at > > > > > > > > > enlightenment, or fulfillment, or retirement, or upon > > > > meeting " The > > > > > > > > > One " ..woman, guru, financial adviser, or next really > > > cool neat > > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > you will 'do' and 'go' exactly and only where you go and > > > > what you > > > > > > > > > do...just like now. but you get to skip over the > > > pondering and > > > > > > > > > suffering and power need stuff. descriptions are invalid > > > at this > > > > > > > > > point. and there is no such thing as lying or telling the > > > > > truth..who > > > > > > > > > could do such a thing? and to whom would they speak? or > > > what > > > > would > > > > > > > > > they speak? the paradox of paradoxes is that there > > > really are no > > > > > > > > > paradoxes. but for an interesting logic type utilised by > > > > > conceptual > > > > > > > > > activity, paradoxes are fantasy. well, then, everything > > > and > > > > > > everybody > > > > > > > > > is as well. and it's the predictability of > > > nonpredictability > > > > > and the > > > > > > > > > nonpredictability of preductability that is the rub! > > > it's a > > > > > > beautiful > > > > > > > > > thing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we'll take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > word for it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you had no choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > (ping) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we'll take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > word for that, too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (pong)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naturally, I knew you would. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you know your a player > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are 'they' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......you're on the Gong > > > Show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GONG! > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(ping) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you gongged out an eternity ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's why your (angry clown) ghost is still haunting > > > > > > > > > > > > this show. it wants another chance. > > > > > > > > > > > > but at this rate, it will never get it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (pong)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (your turn, but don't get too excited, because i'll be quitting > > > pretty > > > > soon:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > hey, there's always someone just waiting to get in the game... > > > and you usually forget you're playing when the Goddess of Life, > > > Maya, passes by ;-) (cause you get sooooooooooo involved in looking > > > at her) LOL > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > yes...we have here one serious boy. mayhap that some day he will > > glimpse what it is that has him buffaloed into believing that he has > > some sort of handle on other people. this is always the illusion of > > the lost. seeing specks in the eyes of others while missing the > > disabling log that beclouds their own vision. he haunts and accuses > > others of haunting. he's angered and accuses others of anger. he says > > he will soon quit to those who quit long ago. it's sad really. but > > then it is also just a game. games are for fun. he feels he is losing > > and gets infuriated. try as one may, one cannot convince him that it > > only a game of chance and myrth. over-involvement with oneself and > > one's beliefs, emotions and misplaced certainties is the most common > > cause of the disorder here displayed. once it is seen that the 'who' > > he identifies with is but a figment of an imagination of a fictitious > > dream character, he will awaken, arise, and quit being such a goof. > > then perhaps he can play again without getting puffy and upset about > > his 'own' winning or losing at ring-around-the-rosie with himself. now > > that is a losing game. > > > > > > .b > > > > > > yes, anna, they've found that the feminine influence tends to > > reduce men's hostile instincts. .b just admitted to having dropped > > the ball and to having been unaware of having been describing himself > > all along. that's quite a heroic admission. i hope, anna, that > > you're impressed! i know i am! no point in continuing, now. > > although i'm afraid he may forget, and start playing again, soon. but > > little will he know, semi-tragically, that i won't be in the room with > > him. maybe you, anna, can take over from here...? > > > > maybe you can talk some sense into the old boy. > > > > bye. ( " i'm outta here!, " as the kids say.) > ok kid. i guess it's much to grownup.the efflorescent radiance of wisdom's bloom is too overpowering for a sheltered awareness. i understand and give you my blessings regardless of your misapprehensions. now i know your reading this so please don't interject with a silly " I'm not listening..I'm gone..remember!..I told you so you old ninny! " ..that would be just more deluded posturing for ego's sake. you wouldn't fall into that old bruised ego trap would you now. we all know..as ONE knowing...egos are kept in place by the old farmers trick of using bailing wire and duct tape to keep the ancient broken-down tractor running rather than getting up, going out, admitting that the 'old solution' of 'me' or the tractor isn't working anymore and just get on with it and enter into the brand new day that is. all else is just burning daylight on the limited-time trip of ego-ing NOW. after some maturing, that little ego may ripen, and thereby gain a more inclusive and aware presence of the truth... at some later date. hope to see you then. till that day, enjoy the games of childhood's dream. the old boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > <skywords@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > > " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , > > > > > > " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , > > > > > " skywhilds " > > > > > > > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deus ex machina is a Latin phrase > > > that is > > > > > > > used to > > > > > > > > > > > > > describe an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unexpected, artificial, or > > > improbable > > > > > > character, > > > > > > > > > > > > device, or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > event > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > introduced suddenly in a work of > > > > fiction or > > > > > > > > drama to > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation or untangle a plot (e.g., > > > > > having the > > > > > > > > > > > protagonist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realize it was all a dream, or an > > > angel > > > > > > suddenly > > > > > > > > > > > > > appearing to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the plot problems of a story > > > that the > > > > > > > > characters > > > > > > > > > > > > > can't or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > won't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve on their own). The phrase > > > has been > > > > > > > > > extended to > > > > > > > > > > > > refer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolution to a story which does > > > not > > > > pay due > > > > > > > > regard > > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > story's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internal logic and is so unlikely > > > that it > > > > > > > > challenges > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suspension of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disbelief, allowing the author to > > > > > conclude the > > > > > > > > story > > > > > > > > > > > > with an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unlikely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > though more palatable, ending. In > > > modern > > > > > > > terms the > > > > > > > > > > > deus ex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > machina has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also come to describe a being, > > > object or > > > > > event > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > suddenly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appears > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and solves a seemingly insoluble > > > > > > difficulty (e. > > > > > > > > > g. the > > > > > > > > > > > > > cavalry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arriving). A classic example of > > > this > > > > type of > > > > > > > > deus ex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > machina is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Homer's Odyssey; a more > > > contemporary > > > > > > example is > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crichton's The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andromeda Strain. While in > > > > storytelling this > > > > > > > might > > > > > > > > > > seem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unfulfilling, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in real life this type of figure > > > might be > > > > > > > > > welcome and > > > > > > > > > > > > > heroic, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > due to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the low probability of such an > > > event > > > > > > occurring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It sometimes also can mean, > > > usually in an > > > > > > > > > episode of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sitcom, an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > event or plot device which does not > > > > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > > > > solve the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflict of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the plot, but demotes the character > > > (s) > > > > > > into the > > > > > > > > > > > financial, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emotional, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mental, or geographical state they > > > were in > > > > > > > > when the > > > > > > > > > > > > episode > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > began, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > restoring the series' status quo in > > > > order to > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > easily > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation in the next episode. > > > > However, this > > > > > > > > usage, > > > > > > > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somewhat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different from classical deus ex > > > > machina, is > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > commonly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > called the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " reset button technique " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The notion of deus ex machina can > > > also be > > > > > > > > > applied to a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > revelation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > within a story experienced by a > > > character > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > involves the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > individual realizing that the > > > complicated, > > > > > > > > sometimes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perilous or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mundane and perhaps seemingly > > > unrelated > > > > > > > > sequence of > > > > > > > > > > > events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leading up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to this point in the story are > > > joined > > > > > together > > > > > > > > > by some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > profound > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concept. Thus the unexpected and > > > timely > > > > > > > > > > intervention is > > > > > > > > > > > > > aimed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning of the story rather than a > > > > physical > > > > > > > event > > > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > plot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may more accurately be described > > > as a plot > > > > > > > twist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Greek tragedian Euripides is > > > > > notorious for > > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > > > > > > this plot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > device. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first person known to have > > > > > criticized the > > > > > > > > > > device was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aristotle in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Poetics, where he argues that > > > a good > > > > > > tragedy > > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > > > remain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plausible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's unbelievable.that's a > > > tragedy! as > > > > > > > > unremainingly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inplausible as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it seems. Ari always was sort of a > > > party > > > > > pooper. > > > > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > he'll be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different whenever he gets rebooted > > > into > > > > > > windows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " be a clown, be a clown, " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how does it go, bob? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VERSE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll remember forever, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was but three, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mama, who was clever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remarking to me…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If son when you're grown up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You want ev'rything nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got your future sewn up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you take this advice… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Act the fool play the calf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always have the last laugh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear the cap and the bells > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll rate with all the best > > > swells > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a doctor, folks'll face > > > you with > > > > > > dread > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a dentist, they'll be > > > glad when > > > > > > you're > > > > > > > > > dead > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll get a bigger hand if you can > > > stand on > > > > > > > your head > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crazy buffoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the demoiselles'll all swoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dress in huge baggy pants > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll ride the road to romance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A butcher or a baker ladies never > > > embrace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A barber or a beau would be a social > > > disgrace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They all'll come to call if you can > > > fall > > > > on your > > > > > > > face > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show `em tricks tell `em jokes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll only stop with top folks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crack jackanapes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll imitate you like apes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a great composer with your rent > > > in > > > > > arrears? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a major poet and you'll owe it > > > for > > > > years? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When crowds'll pay to giggle if you > > > wiggle > > > > > > your ears > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you just make `em roar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Watch your mountebank soar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear a painted moustache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you're sure to make a big splash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A college education I should never > > > propose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A bachelor's degree won't even keep > > > you in > > > > > clo'es > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But millions you will win if you can > > > spin on > > > > > > > your nose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the poor silly ass > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always travel first class > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give `em quips, give `em fun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll apy and say you're A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a farmer you've the > > > weather to > > > > > buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a gambler you'll be > > > stuck with > > > > > > > your luck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Jack you'll never lack if you can > > > quack > > > > > like a > > > > > > > > duck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Quack, quack, quack, quack) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Thanks to Meggyweggs@ for lyrics] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the best part about pretending to be a > > > clown, is > > > > > > > > observing > > > > > > > > > > > > > those who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a > > > riot > > > > > alice! > > > > > > > > > all the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique > > > and > > > > believe > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > know or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time > > > > > missing the > > > > > > > > > actual > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jest; but, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rianting aloud as if amused at some > > > subtlety of > > > > > > nuance > > > > > > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own projection. and all a clown can do > > > at the > > > > > sight > > > > > > > > is to > > > > > > > > > > > smile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a trick to be enjoyed! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not very nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggests an angry clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no..the clown is not angry nor unangry, > > > neither > > > > > sad nor > > > > > > > > > joyful. > > > > > > > > > > > > he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not nice and he is not nasty. whatever the > > > clown > > > > > > seems to > > > > > > > > > > > > suggest, he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reflects only what participants of the > > > audience > > > > > > > project, and > > > > > > > > > > > > suggests > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing of himself. it's all one of the > > > greatest of > > > > > > > > illusions. > > > > > > > > > > > > and the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trick is to enjoy the trick to be enjoyed. > > > casting > > > > > > > judgments > > > > > > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demeanor or imagined intent of the > > > entertainment > > > > is a > > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only. only the smile of the Cheshire Cat or > > > the > > > > > twinkle > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > > eye of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the clown, remain after the show....for both > > > > > > audience and > > > > > > > > > > > master of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ceremonies. a circus of infinite rings, and > > > all > > > > circus > > > > > > > > > acts play > > > > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own Ringmaster for better or worse, happier > > > or > > > > > > > otherwise. no > > > > > > > > > > > one has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to go to the circus...even if it's the only > > > game in > > > > > > > > > town...some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > players both do an do not 'go' anywhere by > > > their > > > > > > dance of > > > > > > > > > > > quarks and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > excogitations in the swirling void. just > > > smiles. > > > > > > > suggests a > > > > > > > > > > > > clown with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a respectable grin but without an agenda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " a respectable grin but without an agenda " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sounds like this clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes horses in midstream: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WRONG! read more carefully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " the best part about pretending to be a clown, > > > is > > > > > > observing > > > > > > > > > > > those who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot > > > alice! > > > > > > all the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and > > > > believe they > > > > > > > > know or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time > > > missing the > > > > > > actual > > > > > > > > > jest " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a pretty rock solid hidden agenda! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'audience' is the party with the agenda. the > > > clown > > > > > > merely > > > > > > > > > > observes > > > > > > > > > > > > > this unquestionable truth and smiles, without > > > posing his > > > > > > > beliefs > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > what they are doing onto them, which is of course > > > > exactly > > > > > > > > and only > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the clowns audience is doing, and further > > > trying to > > > > > > > > > > persuade that > > > > > > > > > > > > > same clown that they are not doing, but that they > > > > have the > > > > > > > > > > inside dope > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the clowns 'motives', which in truth are not > > > present > > > > > > in any > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > the clown is motiveless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (next he'll say, and rightly so, that " changing > > > > > horses in > > > > > > > > > > midstream " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is precisely what the clown is all about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no. that is what you have said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not just the clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not just the clown) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's all just you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......and it's not between the > > > > > lines..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will have to take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most reliabe word for it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm untrustworthy....just like everyone and > > > everything else. > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > > one can never fulfill the trust of another. the only > > > one > > > > that > > > > > > > > one can > > > > > > > > > > > trust, is oneself...but one never does, while all > > > the time > > > > > > > > saying that > > > > > > > > > > > they do. no one can believe themselves. themselves is > > > > just too > > > > > > > > > > > unbelievable. just so. love your neighbor as > > > yourself, > > > > just as > > > > > > > > soon as > > > > > > > > > > > you know who that is. and it's the booby- prize.it's > > > the > > > > > > moonlight > > > > > > > > > > > madness blue light special, on sale while riding on > > > the > > > > > magical > > > > > > > > > > > mystery tour of the life. one must not believe > > > anything one > > > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > > > > > know fully and completely as an aspect of their own > > > being. > > > > > It's > > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > > > not a big deal nor not much of 'thing' at all....it's > > > > groovy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will have to take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most reliabe word for it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most probably know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Liar Paradox: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As stated in the book of Paul in the Bible: " One of > > > > > themselves, a > > > > > > > > > > prophet oftheir own, said, 'Cretans are always > > > liars. . . .' " > > > > > > (Titus > > > > > > > > > > 1:12) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interpret this as a Cretan saying, " Everything a Cretan > > > > says is > > > > > > > > false. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is what the Cretan has said true or false? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is bob, therefore, a Cretan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no, said A, he's just a French Canadian: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A: .b is a French Canadian. he says all French > > > Canadians are > > > > > > liars. > > > > > > > > > > But, he is a liar, and thus he is lying. If he is > > > lying, > > > > French > > > > > > > > > > Canadians are not liars and thus he is telling the > > > truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made a friend. he is called Steve. Steve is a duck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B: Hi A, just so you know. > > > > > > > > > > .b is neither lying, nor telling the truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is merely making a false statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > C: .b cannot be telling the truth as this would > > > > contradict the > > > > > > > > > > statement that he himself (being French Canadian) is a > > > liar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If .b is lying, this is acceptable as there are more > > > > > possibilities > > > > > > > > > > than just ALL are liars or NONE are liars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is lying that ALL are liars but SOME could be > > > liars, of > > > > which > > > > > > > he is > > > > > > > > > > one, therefore cannot be assumed automatically to be > > > > telling the > > > > > > > truth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's another andgle, for you & glers, and it pretty > > > much sums > > > > > > > up what > > > > > > > > > > we're doing here @ Nis House (in case you're too lazy > > > to > > > > read it > > > > > > > all, > > > > > > > > > > here's the punch line: " Indeed we are not even in the > > > > > > unpredictable > > > > > > > > > > world of chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm > > > of the > > > > > > > > > > non-predictable, an altogether much more interesting > > > place. " ): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you remember the old philosophical paradox about > > > lying > > > > > > > Cretans? It > > > > > > > > > > goes like this: all Cretans are liars, I am a Cretan, > > > > > > therefore I am > > > > > > > > > > lying. Am I a Cretan? Before you get tied up in > > > logical knots > > > > > > trying > > > > > > > > > > to solve this paradoxical statement, let me give you a > > > > much more > > > > > > > > > > interesting idea to play with. All Cretans, like the > > > rest of > > > > > > us, can > > > > > > > > > > lie: we can make things seem other than they are; we > > > can tell > > > > > > > stories; > > > > > > > > > > we can invent new ways of understanding; we can lie. > > > It is the > > > > > > > process > > > > > > > > > > of deception, making one thing stand for another, > > > creating > > > > > > > metaphors, > > > > > > > > > > or inventing axioms that makes communication possible. > > > The > > > > > > study of > > > > > > > > > > signs and symbols, as Umberto Eco observes 'is in > > > > principle the > > > > > > > > > > discipline studying everything which can be used in > > > order to > > > > > lie.' > > > > > > > > > > (Eco, 1976). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The fact that we can lie is another way of saying > > > that we can > > > > > > play > > > > > > > > > > the game by the rules, we can cheat, or we can invent > > > new > > > > > > rules. We > > > > > > > > > > owe this insight into the nature of communication—as a > > > kind of > > > > > > game > > > > > > > > > > with rules—to the enigmatic philosopher Wittgenstein > > > > > > (Wittgenstein, > > > > > > > > > > 1953). This insight explains why the old paradigm, > > > based > > > > on the > > > > > > > ideas > > > > > > > > > > of cause and effect, did not work. People are not > > > affected by > > > > > > > > > > messages, that is altogether the wrong way to describe > > > what > > > > > > happens. > > > > > > > > > > People read messages using the range of rules they have > > > > > > available to > > > > > > > > > > them and which seem appropriate at the time. So when > > > we study > > > > > > > > > > communication, we are studying rules made by people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This means that our research has moved out of the > > > realm > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > > predictable. Indeed we are not even in the > > > unpredictable > > > > > world of > > > > > > > > > > chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the > > > > > > non-predictable, > > > > > > > > > > an altogether much more interesting place. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's right here, now. and you know it. you are it. you > > > are > > > > > home. and > > > > > > > > > home is never for a nano-micro-second of spacetime > > > absent or > > > > > > > > > unattentive. you can't believe yourself. " maybe there is > > > an > > > > > > invisible > > > > > > > > > hand that moves all selves to join and become one > > > and.... " , > > > > > > > > > ...fundamentally you know better. you are truth... truth, > > > > > > reality, it, > > > > > > > > > I, them, there, and those. and the game is to pretend > > > that you > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > not only agreed to play the game, but that you set it up > > > in the > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > place. I'm vile this way. I'm you and he and she and it > > > and you > > > > > > > > > probably don't believe me because you think that I am > > > someone > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > than yourself, who is the only one you can trust.. and > > > you still > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > the feeling that the fundamental self of you is lying > > > somehow or > > > > > > > > > someway, and you gotta find some way out of this rat's > > > nest > > > > > > > > > merry-go-round of noisome, nauseating...what????? what's > > > the > > > > > > problem? > > > > > > > > > where are you going to go? what are you going to 'do' > > > then (at > > > > > > > > > enlightenment, or fulfillment, or retirement, or upon > > > > meeting " The > > > > > > > > > One " ..woman, guru, financial adviser, or next really > > > cool neat > > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > you will 'do' and 'go' exactly and only where you go and > > > > what you > > > > > > > > > do...just like now. but you get to skip over the > > > pondering and > > > > > > > > > suffering and power need stuff. descriptions are invalid > > > at this > > > > > > > > > point. and there is no such thing as lying or telling the > > > > > truth..who > > > > > > > > > could do such a thing? and to whom would they speak? or > > > what > > > > would > > > > > > > > > they speak? the paradox of paradoxes is that there > > > really are no > > > > > > > > > paradoxes. but for an interesting logic type utilised by > > > > > conceptual > > > > > > > > > activity, paradoxes are fantasy. well, then, everything > > > and > > > > > > everybody > > > > > > > > > is as well. and it's the predictability of > > > nonpredictability > > > > > and the > > > > > > > > > nonpredictability of preductability that is the rub! > > > it's a > > > > > > beautiful > > > > > > > > > thing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we'll take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > word for it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you had no choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > (ping) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we'll take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > word for that, too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (pong) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naturally, I knew you would. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you know your a player > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are 'they' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......you're on the Gong > > > Show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GONG! > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (ping) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you gongged out an eternity ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's why your (angry clown) ghost is still haunting > > > > > > > > > > > > this show. it wants another chance. > > > > > > > > > > > > but at this rate, it will never get it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (pong) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (your turn, but don't get too excited, because i'll be quitting > > > pretty > > > > soon:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > hey, there's always someone just waiting to get in the game... > > > and you usually forget you're playing when the Goddess of Life, > > > Maya, passes by ;-) (cause you get sooooooooooo involved in looking > > > at her) LOL > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > yes...we have here one serious boy. mayhap that some day he will > > glimpse what it is that has him buffaloed into believing that he has > > some sort of handle on other people. this is always the illusion of > > the lost. seeing specks in the eyes of others while missing the > > disabling log that beclouds their own vision. he haunts and accuses > > others of haunting. he's angered and accuses others of anger. he says > > he will soon quit to those who quit long ago. it's sad really. but > > then it is also just a game. games are for fun. he feels he is losing > > and gets infuriated. try as one may, one cannot convince him that it > > only a game of chance and myrth. over-involvement with oneself and > > one's beliefs, emotions and misplaced certainties is the most common > > cause of the disorder here displayed. once it is seen that the 'who' > > he identifies with is but a figment of an imagination of a fictitious > > dream character, he will awaken, arise, and quit being such a goof. > > then perhaps he can play again without getting puffy and upset about > > his 'own' winning or losing at ring-around-the-rosie with himself. now > > that is a losing game. > > > > > > .b > > > > > > yes, anna, they've found that the feminine influence tends to > > reduce men's hostile instincts. .b just admitted to having dropped > > the ball and to having been unaware of having been describing himself > > all along. that's quite a heroic admission. i hope, anna, that > > you're impressed! i know i am! no point in continuing, now. > > although i'm afraid he may forget, and start playing again, soon. but > > little will he know, semi-tragically, that i won't be in the room with > > him. maybe you, anna, can take over from here...? > > > > maybe you can talk some sense into the old boy. > > > > bye. ( " i'm outta here!, " as the kids say.) > LOL, so am I. Does that mean the game is over? Not by a longshot!!! It's only just begun!!!!!! Now have fun!!! Doing nothing, nothing doing, done by no-one. Wink. Ciao, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > <skywords@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > > > " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > > > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > > > > > " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , > > > > > > " skywhilds " > > > > > > > > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deus ex machina is a Latin phrase > > > > that is > > > > > > > > used to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > describe an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unexpected, artificial, or > > > > improbable > > > > > > > character, > > > > > > > > > > > > > device, or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > event > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > introduced suddenly in a work of > > > > > fiction or > > > > > > > > > drama to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation or untangle a plot > (e.g., > > > > > > having the > > > > > > > > > > > > protagonist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > realize it was all a dream, or an > > > > angel > > > > > > > suddenly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appearing to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the plot problems of a story > > > > that the > > > > > > > > > characters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can't or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > won't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolve on their own). The phrase > > > > has been > > > > > > > > > > extended to > > > > > > > > > > > > > refer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolution to a story which does > > > > not > > > > > pay due > > > > > > > > > regard > > > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > story's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internal logic and is so unlikely > > > > that it > > > > > > > > > challenges > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suspension of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disbelief, allowing the author to > > > > > > conclude the > > > > > > > > > story > > > > > > > > > > > > > with an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unlikely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > though more palatable, ending. In > > > > modern > > > > > > > > terms the > > > > > > > > > > > > deus ex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > machina has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also come to describe a being, > > > > object or > > > > > > event > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > suddenly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appears > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and solves a seemingly insoluble > > > > > > > difficulty (e. > > > > > > > > > > g. the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cavalry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arriving). A classic example of > > > > this > > > > > type of > > > > > > > > > deus ex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > machina is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Homer's Odyssey; a more > > > > contemporary > > > > > > > example is > > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crichton's The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andromeda Strain. While in > > > > > storytelling this > > > > > > > > might > > > > > > > > > > > seem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unfulfilling, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in real life this type of figure > > > > might be > > > > > > > > > > welcome and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heroic, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > due to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the low probability of such an > > > > event > > > > > > > occurring. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It sometimes also can mean, > > > > usually in an > > > > > > > > > > episode of a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sitcom, an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > event or plot device which > does not > > > > > > > necessarily > > > > > > > > > > > > solve the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflict of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the plot, but demotes the > character > > > > (s) > > > > > > > into the > > > > > > > > > > > > financial, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emotional, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mental, or geographical state > they > > > > were in > > > > > > > > > when the > > > > > > > > > > > > > episode > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > began, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > restoring the series' status > quo in > > > > > order to > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > easily > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > situation in the next episode. > > > > > However, this > > > > > > > > > usage, > > > > > > > > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somewhat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different from classical deus ex > > > > > machina, is > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > commonly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > called the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " reset button technique " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The notion of deus ex machina can > > > > also be > > > > > > > > > > applied to a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > revelation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > within a story experienced by a > > > > character > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > involves the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > individual realizing that the > > > > complicated, > > > > > > > > > sometimes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perilous or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mundane and perhaps seemingly > > > > unrelated > > > > > > > > > sequence of > > > > > > > > > > > > events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leading up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to this point in the story are > > > > joined > > > > > > together > > > > > > > > > > by some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > profound > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concept. Thus the unexpected and > > > > timely > > > > > > > > > > > intervention is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aimed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning of the story rather than a > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > event > > > > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may more accurately be described > > > > as a plot > > > > > > > > twist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Greek tragedian Euripides is > > > > > > notorious for > > > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this plot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > device. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first person known to have > > > > > > criticized the > > > > > > > > > > > device was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aristotle in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > his Poetics, where he argues that > > > > a good > > > > > > > tragedy > > > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > > > > remain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plausible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's unbelievable.that's a > > > > tragedy! as > > > > > > > > > unremainingly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inplausible as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it seems. Ari always was sort of a > > > > party > > > > > > pooper. > > > > > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he'll be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different whenever he gets rebooted > > > > into > > > > > > > windows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " be a clown, be a clown, " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how does it go, bob? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VERSE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll remember forever, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was but three, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mama, who was clever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remarking to me…. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If son when you're grown up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You want ev'rything nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got your future sewn up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you take this advice… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Act the fool play the calf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always have the last laugh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear the cap and the bells > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll rate with all the best > > > > swells > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a doctor, folks'll face > > > > you with > > > > > > > dread > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a dentist, they'll be > > > > glad when > > > > > > > you're > > > > > > > > > > dead > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You'll get a bigger hand if you can > > > > stand on > > > > > > > > your head > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crazy buffoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the demoiselles'll all swoon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dress in huge baggy pants > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll ride the road to romance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A butcher or a baker ladies never > > > > embrace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A barber or a beau would be a social > > > > disgrace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They all'll come to call if you can > > > > fall > > > > > on your > > > > > > > > face > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Show `em tricks tell `em jokes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll only stop with top folks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a crack jackanapes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll imitate you like apes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a great composer with your > rent > > > > in > > > > > > arrears? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why be a major poet and you'll owe it > > > > for > > > > > years? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When crowds'll pay to giggle if you > > > > wiggle > > > > > > > your ears > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you just make `em roar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Watch your mountebank soar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wear a painted moustache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you're sure to make a big splash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A college education I should never > > > > propose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A bachelor's degree won't even keep > > > > you in > > > > > > clo'es > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But millions you will win if you can > > > > spin on > > > > > > > > your nose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFRAIN 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the world loves a clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the poor silly ass > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you'll always travel first class > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give `em quips, give `em fun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And they'll apy and say you're A1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a farmer you've the > > > > weather to > > > > > > buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you become a gambler you'll be > > > > stuck with > > > > > > > > your luck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Jack you'll never lack if you can > > > > quack > > > > > > like a > > > > > > > > > duck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Quack, quack, quack, quack) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a clown, be a clown, be a clown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Thanks to Meggyweggs@ for lyrics] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the best part about pretending to be a > > > > clown, is > > > > > > > > > observing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a > > > > riot > > > > > > alice! > > > > > > > > > > all the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique > > > > and > > > > > believe > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > know or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time > > > > > > missing the > > > > > > > > > > actual > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jest; but, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rianting aloud as if amused at some > > > > subtlety of > > > > > > > nuance > > > > > > > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own projection. and all a clown can do > > > > at the > > > > > > sight > > > > > > > > > is to > > > > > > > > > > > > smile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a trick to be enjoyed! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not very nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggests an angry clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no..the clown is not angry nor unangry, > > > > neither > > > > > > sad nor > > > > > > > > > > joyful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not nice and he is not nasty. whatever the > > > > clown > > > > > > > seems to > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggest, he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reflects only what participants of the > > > > audience > > > > > > > > project, and > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggests > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing of himself. it's all one of the > > > > greatest of > > > > > > > > > illusions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trick is to enjoy the trick to be enjoyed. > > > > casting > > > > > > > > judgments > > > > > > > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demeanor or imagined intent of the > > > > entertainment > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only. only the smile of the Cheshire Cat or > > > > the > > > > > > twinkle > > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > eye of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the clown, remain after the show....for both > > > > > > > audience and > > > > > > > > > > > > master of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ceremonies. a circus of infinite rings, and > > > > all > > > > > circus > > > > > > > > > > acts play > > > > > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own Ringmaster for better or worse, happier > > > > or > > > > > > > > otherwise. no > > > > > > > > > > > > one has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to go to the circus...even if it's the only > > > > game in > > > > > > > > > > town...some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > players both do an do not 'go' anywhere by > > > > their > > > > > > > dance of > > > > > > > > > > > > quarks and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > excogitations in the swirling void. just > > > > smiles. > > > > > > > > suggests a > > > > > > > > > > > > > clown with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a respectable grin but without an agenda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " a respectable grin but without an agenda " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sounds like this clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes horses in midstream: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WRONG! read more carefully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " the best part about pretending to be a > clown, > > > > is > > > > > > > observing > > > > > > > > > > > > those who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pretend to be an audience. now that's a riot > > > > alice! > > > > > > > all the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nonjudgmental dissemblers who critique and > > > > > believe they > > > > > > > > > know or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand the clown, while all the time > > > > missing the > > > > > > > actual > > > > > > > > > > jest " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a pretty rock solid hidden agenda! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 'audience' is the party with the agenda. > the > > > > clown > > > > > > > merely > > > > > > > > > > > observes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this unquestionable truth and smiles, without > > > > posing his > > > > > > > > beliefs > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what they are doing onto them, which is of > course > > > > > exactly > > > > > > > > > and only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the clowns audience is doing, and further > > > > trying to > > > > > > > > > > > persuade that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same clown that they are not doing, but that > they > > > > > have the > > > > > > > > > > > inside dope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the clowns 'motives', which in truth are not > > > > present > > > > > > > in any > > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the clown is motiveless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (next he'll say, and rightly so, that > " changing > > > > > > horses in > > > > > > > > > > > midstream " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is precisely what the clown is all about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no. that is what you have said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not just the clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not just the clown) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's all just you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......and it's not between the > > > > > > lines..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will have to take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most reliabe word for it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm untrustworthy....just like everyone and > > > > everything else. > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > > > one can never fulfill the trust of another. the > only > > > > one > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > one can > > > > > > > > > > > > trust, is oneself...but one never does, while all > > > > the time > > > > > > > > > saying that > > > > > > > > > > > > they do. no one can believe themselves. > themselves is > > > > > just too > > > > > > > > > > > > unbelievable. just so. love your neighbor as > > > > yourself, > > > > > just as > > > > > > > > > soon as > > > > > > > > > > > > you know who that is. and it's the booby-prize.it's > > > > the > > > > > > > moonlight > > > > > > > > > > > > madness blue light special, on sale while riding on > > > > the > > > > > > magical > > > > > > > > > > > > mystery tour of the life. one must not believe > > > > anything one > > > > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > > > > > > know fully and completely as an aspect of their own > > > > being. > > > > > > It's > > > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > > > > not a big deal nor not much of 'thing' at > all....it's > > > > > groovy! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will have to take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most reliabe word for it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most probably know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Liar Paradox: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As stated in the book of Paul in the Bible: " One of > > > > > > themselves, a > > > > > > > > > > > prophet oftheir own, said, 'Cretans are always > > > > liars. . . .' " > > > > > > > (Titus > > > > > > > > > > > 1:12) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interpret this as a Cretan saying, " Everything a > Cretan > > > > > says is > > > > > > > > > false. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is what the Cretan has said true or false? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is bob, therefore, a Cretan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no, said A, he's just a French Canadian: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A: .b is a French Canadian. he says all French > > > > Canadians are > > > > > > > liars. > > > > > > > > > > > But, he is a liar, and thus he is lying. If he is > > > > lying, > > > > > French > > > > > > > > > > > Canadians are not liars and thus he is telling the > > > > truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made a friend. he is called Steve. Steve is a duck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B: Hi A, just so you know. > > > > > > > > > > > .b is neither lying, nor telling the truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is merely making a false statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > C: .b cannot be telling the truth as this would > > > > > contradict the > > > > > > > > > > > statement that he himself (being French Canadian) > is a > > > > liar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If .b is lying, this is acceptable as there are more > > > > > > possibilities > > > > > > > > > > > than just ALL are liars or NONE are liars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is lying that ALL are liars but SOME could be > > > > liars, of > > > > > which > > > > > > > > he is > > > > > > > > > > > one, therefore cannot be assumed automatically to be > > > > > telling the > > > > > > > > truth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's another andgle, for you & glers, and it pretty > > > > much sums > > > > > > > > up what > > > > > > > > > > > we're doing here @ Nis House (in case you're too lazy > > > > to > > > > > read it > > > > > > > > all, > > > > > > > > > > > here's the punch line: " Indeed we are not even in the > > > > > > > unpredictable > > > > > > > > > > > world of chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > > > non-predictable, an altogether much more interesting > > > > place. " ): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Do you remember the old philosophical paradox about > > > > lying > > > > > > > > Cretans? It > > > > > > > > > > > goes like this: all Cretans are liars, I am a Cretan, > > > > > > > therefore I am > > > > > > > > > > > lying. Am I a Cretan? Before you get tied up in > > > > logical knots > > > > > > > trying > > > > > > > > > > > to solve this paradoxical statement, let me give you a > > > > > much more > > > > > > > > > > > interesting idea to play with. All Cretans, like the > > > > rest of > > > > > > > us, can > > > > > > > > > > > lie: we can make things seem other than they are; we > > > > can tell > > > > > > > > stories; > > > > > > > > > > > we can invent new ways of understanding; we can lie. > > > > It is the > > > > > > > > process > > > > > > > > > > > of deception, making one thing stand for another, > > > > creating > > > > > > > > metaphors, > > > > > > > > > > > or inventing axioms that makes communication > possible. > > > > The > > > > > > > study of > > > > > > > > > > > signs and symbols, as Umberto Eco observes 'is in > > > > > principle the > > > > > > > > > > > discipline studying everything which can be used in > > > > order to > > > > > > lie.' > > > > > > > > > > > (Eco, 1976). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The fact that we can lie is another way of saying > > > > that we can > > > > > > > play > > > > > > > > > > > the game by the rules, we can cheat, or we can invent > > > > new > > > > > > > rules. We > > > > > > > > > > > owe this insight into the nature of > communication—as a > > > > kind of > > > > > > > game > > > > > > > > > > > with rules—to the enigmatic philosopher Wittgenstein > > > > > > > (Wittgenstein, > > > > > > > > > > > 1953). This insight explains why the old paradigm, > > > > based > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > ideas > > > > > > > > > > > of cause and effect, did not work. People are not > > > > affected by > > > > > > > > > > > messages, that is altogether the wrong way to > describe > > > > what > > > > > > > happens. > > > > > > > > > > > People read messages using the range of rules they > have > > > > > > > available to > > > > > > > > > > > them and which seem appropriate at the time. So when > > > > we study > > > > > > > > > > > communication, we are studying rules made by people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This means that our research has moved out of the > > > > realm > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > > > predictable. Indeed we are not even in the > > > > unpredictable > > > > > > world of > > > > > > > > > > > chaos theory. We are, it seems, in the realm of the > > > > > > > non-predictable, > > > > > > > > > > > an altogether much more interesting place. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's right here, now. and you know it. you are it. you > > > > are > > > > > > home. and > > > > > > > > > > home is never for a nano-micro-second of spacetime > > > > absent or > > > > > > > > > > unattentive. you can't believe yourself. " maybe > there is > > > > an > > > > > > > invisible > > > > > > > > > > hand that moves all selves to join and become one > > > > and.... " , > > > > > > > > > > ...fundamentally you know better. you are truth... > truth, > > > > > > > reality, it, > > > > > > > > > > I, them, there, and those. and the game is to pretend > > > > that you > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > not only agreed to play the game, but that you set > it up > > > > in the > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > place. I'm vile this way. I'm you and he and she and it > > > > and you > > > > > > > > > > probably don't believe me because you think that I am > > > > someone > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > than yourself, who is the only one you can trust.. and > > > > you still > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > the feeling that the fundamental self of you is lying > > > > somehow or > > > > > > > > > > someway, and you gotta find some way out of this rat's > > > > nest > > > > > > > > > > merry-go-round of noisome, nauseating...what????? > what's > > > > the > > > > > > > problem? > > > > > > > > > > where are you going to go? what are you going to 'do' > > > > then (at > > > > > > > > > > enlightenment, or fulfillment, or retirement, or upon > > > > > meeting " The > > > > > > > > > > One " ..woman, guru, financial adviser, or next really > > > > cool neat > > > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > you will 'do' and 'go' exactly and only where you go and > > > > > what you > > > > > > > > > > do...just like now. but you get to skip over the > > > > pondering and > > > > > > > > > > suffering and power need stuff. descriptions are > invalid > > > > at this > > > > > > > > > > point. and there is no such thing as lying or > telling the > > > > > > truth..who > > > > > > > > > > could do such a thing? and to whom would they speak? or > > > > what > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > they speak? the paradox of paradoxes is that there > > > > really are no > > > > > > > > > > paradoxes. but for an interesting logic type utilised by > > > > > > conceptual > > > > > > > > > > activity, paradoxes are fantasy. well, then, everything > > > > and > > > > > > > everybody > > > > > > > > > > is as well. and it's the predictability of > > > > nonpredictability > > > > > > and the > > > > > > > > > > nonpredictability of preductability that is the rub! > > > > it's a > > > > > > > beautiful > > > > > > > > > > thing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we'll take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > word for it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you had no choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > (ping) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we'll take your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > word for that, too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (pong)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naturally, I knew you would. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you know your a player > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are 'they' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......you're on the Gong > > > > Show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GONG! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(ping) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you gongged out an eternity ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's why your (angry clown) ghost is still haunting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this show. it wants another chance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but at this rate, it will never get it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (pong)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (your turn, but don't get too excited, because i'll be quitting > > > > pretty > > > > > soon:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hey, there's always someone just waiting to get in the game... > > > > and you usually forget you're playing when the Goddess of Life, > > > > Maya, passes by ;-) (cause you get sooooooooooo involved in > looking > > > > at her) LOL > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > yes...we have here one serious boy. mayhap that some day he will > > > glimpse what it is that has him buffaloed into believing that he has > > > some sort of handle on other people. this is always the illusion of > > > the lost. seeing specks in the eyes of others while missing the > > > disabling log that beclouds their own vision. he haunts and accuses > > > others of haunting. he's angered and accuses others of anger. he says > > > he will soon quit to those who quit long ago. it's sad really. but > > > then it is also just a game. games are for fun. he feels he is losing > > > and gets infuriated. try as one may, one cannot convince him that it > > > only a game of chance and myrth. over-involvement with oneself and > > > one's beliefs, emotions and misplaced certainties is the most common > > > cause of the disorder here displayed. once it is seen that the 'who' > > > he identifies with is but a figment of an imagination of a fictitious > > > dream character, he will awaken, arise, and quit being such a goof. > > > then perhaps he can play again without getting puffy and upset about > > > his 'own' winning or losing at ring-around-the-rosie with himself. now > > > that is a losing game. > > > > > > > > > .b > > > > > > > > > > > yes, anna, they've found that the feminine influence tends to > > > > reduce men's hostile instincts. .b just admitted to having dropped > > > > the ball and to having been unaware of having been describing himself > > > > all along. that's quite a heroic admission. i hope, anna, that > > > > you're impressed! i know i am! no point in continuing, now. > > > > although i'm afraid he may forget, and start playing again, soon. but > > > > little will he know, semi-tragically, that i won't be in the room with > > > > him. maybe you, anna, can take over from here...? > > > > > > > > maybe you can talk some sense into the old boy. > > > > > > > > bye. ( " i'm outta here!, " as the kids say.) > > > > > ok kid. i guess it's much to grownup.the efflorescent radiance of > wisdom's bloom is too overpowering for a sheltered awareness. i > understand and give you my blessings regardless of your > misapprehensions. now i know your reading this so please don't > interject with a silly " I'm not listening..I'm gone..remember!..I told > you so you old ninny! " ..that would be just more deluded posturing for > ego's sake. you wouldn't fall into that old bruised ego trap would you > now. we all know..as ONE knowing...egos are kept in place by the old > farmers trick of using bailing wire and duct tape to keep the ancient > broken-down tractor running rather than getting up, going out, > admitting that the 'old solution' of 'me' or the tractor isn't working > anymore and just get on with it and enter into the brand new day that > is. all else is just burning daylight on the limited-time trip of > ego-ing NOW. after some maturing, that little ego may ripen, and > thereby gain a more inclusive and aware presence of the truth... at > some later date. hope to see you then. till that day, enjoy the games > of childhood's dream. > > the old boy > one other gift I give you on parting. it is this study advise: that you should perform, as a homework assignment, several re-readings of whatever texts you have perused that day. you will upon rereading these writings find that you formed incorrect ideas about what was written and intended by that writing. through the use of your own presuppositions and inclinations as defining content filters, what was 'really' said and meant by the author of the words you are reading has been rendered 180 degrees opposite of the true and cogent understanding as presented by said author.and you have no comprehension of this error on your part.it has become a foil and bafflement for you countless times. an example is your seeing the posting regarding your noble self to somehow or(inordinately stupid) other way, being about myself or dropping some ball or making some admission or whatever else falls from the sky. your reading 'habits' are very good..you seem to read quite a bit. your 'comprehension' scores however are terrible and require many hours of reviewing your misses in this regard. if you can 'see' the error of your ways enough, and enough times, perchance a better method will be intuited for your methods and abilities in grasping who and what is being discussed in written form. and you will less often make these types of mistakes whereby you read the author into the description of your good selfhood. so long for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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