Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE FEELING SOMETHING? > > > > > > Are we supposed to be feeling happy? > > > > Outraged? > > > > Ashamed? > > > > Stupid? > > > > Smart? > > > > Superior? > > > > Inferior? > > > > > > > > What if most feelings just have no name? > > > > What if most feelings are not even, primally, > > > > experienced as either " good " or " bad, " > > > > negative or positive? > > > > > > > > What if we've been " brain washed " into giving them > > > > one or another social, cultural, artistic or, even, > > > > asocial meaning or significance? > > > > > > > > What if feelings are infinite and beyond articulation, > > > > hence, beyond commodification? > > > > > > > > What if attaching significance to feelings is just a > > > > capitalist effort at objectifying the self in order > > > > to either sell it, condemn it, or exploit it in some way? > > > > > > > > What if even poetry and art, literature and philosophy, > > > > even this here, are forms of soul > > > > prostitution? > > > > > > > > And what if even the words, " soul prostitution, " > > > > are equally forms of said commodification, > > > > exploitation. > > > > > > > > What if language is a whore? > > > > > > > > What if the very act of naming is a form of manipulation > > > > and enslavement? > > > > > > > > What if we're all in the business of selling our feelings, > > > > and are thus, whores of shared emotion? > > > > > > > > What if it would be best just to leave feelings alone? > > > > To just feel them and leave them at that? > > > > > > > > And what if even this suggestion fails itself? > > > > > > to feel feelings > to think thoughts > to imagine > to love > to scheme > to revel in the dream > > one needs only to be > unattached > to oneSelf. > > herein lies the paradox of duality. > > Being alive AS the thinking thought > the feeling > the imagining > the lover > the schemer > the reveling dream > > > > and surrendering nothing that is not already ours;-) and we meet here, right now, > no-one sees no-thing but the Beloved. > Hi Anna, I hope this doesn't sound too damnably patronizing. It certainly ain't supposed to be! I read your delightful and profound poetry, and enjoy your words and thoughts, your feelings and sentiments, your considerations and revelations, your anxieties and annihilations, almost, perhaps, as thoroughly as you do, at times. Of course you've heard something to this effect before! But I want to ask you a direct and sincere question. And I hope and expect that you will answer it in the spirit in which it is asked (and I credit you with not engaging in any of Pete's " conversation stoppers " --something I very deeply wish I could credit others with! I suppose you could still beg off, and I would continue to revere your reverence--which is perhaps the secret of your soulful creativity.) So, when you write, one needs only to be unattached to oneSelf. I trust you really believe this to be a necessary precondition. But I'm wondering whether you can share my experience that pre-conditionality is just a conditioned supposition. That is, an attachment, itself: a " should, " an obligation, thus, actually, and I really mean, actually, a form of bondage. So, my question is, have you meditated deeply on this seeming paradox, that is, as it applies directly to what you've written here? Have you? And if you have, would you or wouldn't you agree that even this " paradox, " however wisely tolerated or celebrated, can be, can potentially be, best ....... shed? Similarly, when you write, and surrendering nothing that is not already ours As if ours and not ours had any actual meaning? Mightn't you shed the scaffolding of " already ours " ? The very idea of possession, doesn't it seem as cumbersome and irrelevant to you, as it does to me? Now, you might well say that I'm simply pointing to some necessary and only apparent contradiction or another, and that I'd best honor and abide by it. Or you might off handedly suggest that I'm merely pointing to rhetorical and poetic devices, that I'd best not let myself be encumbered by such trivial concerns. And that they merely serve to convey something altogether more liberating than I yet know. But I might as well tell you that I, like you, am playing. And as I play at letting go of such imagery as " ours, " and " unattached, " and " oneSelf, " Something Happens that hadn't happened before. And I'm wondering if, in letting go of these suppositions, it is possible that, as you say, we meet here, right now, no-one sees no-thing but the Beloved. --yet without meeting, because even this is an encumbrance, and certainly not " right now " ! And to shed, too, the very idea of " the Beloved. " I'm just wondering. I'm just wondering. Anyway, as we say, " it works for me! " Sincerely, Sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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