Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 So, here again, I see the dichotomy: Dependent/Narcissist vs Codependent/Altruist. The first puts him/herself " first " The last puts her/himself " last. " But they both depend upon Each other, Like parent and child. Thus, they have an infantile Relationship. Each believes him/herself " more than " (On one or another level) The other. The " sage, " not being a " fool, " Believes him/herself to be a " sage, " Thus (somehow, at least) Superior. The worldly one, not being a " fool, " Believes the sage to be a fool-- The worldly one's fool. I see only one escape from either " Serving " or " being served " Believing in neither. You, ac, Appear to me to be caught Between fighting shamelessly, On the one hand, And loving sanctimoniously, On the other. Caught, as we all are, Between being either the narcissistic fool/dependent And the altruistic sage/codependent, On some level or another-- Still, inevitably, reliving the parent-child relationship Of our our past, since it is synonymous with sociality Deep at the center or our being. Nevertheless, Nonduality means taking the option To transcend or drop that. The first step (for some) Is to cherish the eternal instant And to know oneself as Being All But the last step (for some) Is to ALSO cherish nothing And not know oneself at all Both and Neither In writing this, I am, foolish sage, considering myself to be offering Value, Both serving and self-serving. But really, Doing neither. (Wasting my valuable time, Talking to the wind.) As well. > > The worldly man keeps believing > himself to be the ultimate recipient. > He keeps imagining himself in a dire > need for the world to fulfill him. > A sage knows him to be the Ultimately > Source! The Source that can only give! > > > Below is something from Adyashanti: > > > > > < http://www.workingwithoneness.org/article_adyashanti.html > > > Only in our love of Truth does the > heart break open, and we finally stop > asking, " How can I hold onto this > Truth? How can I maintain this > realization? " We don't look at it that > way anymore. We only look at it as " How > can I serve this realization? " There's > no more interest in holding on, finding > safety or satisfaction. > > When the real heart breaks open, the > question becomes, " How can one serve > the One? " How can one be this Truth? " > And there's no final answer to that > kind of question. It's always in the > moment, at every moment, to be it now- > not " How can I be it? " in some image, > but just to be it now. We discover that > we're no longer a gatherer of beauty, a > gatherer of bliss, a gatherer of peace. > We're not a hoarder. We're its servant, > you and I. > > You can't lose what you serve. That's > the secret. What you serve, you can't > lose. What you don't serve and what you > try to hold onto, you can't hold onto. > It's always slipping out of your fingers. > > That's why you can never separate > wisdom or insight or realization from > love or devotion. One has to find in > their heart the devotion to serve the > Truth that's found, moment to moment. > That's an act of love, to serve. It > gets us out of the last vestige of self- > centered relationship with our > experience. > > When you touch into real love, the > farthest thing from your mind is " How > can you serve me? " It's just not there > anymore, not in the true spiritual > heart. It's not there in the heart > that's broken open by realization. Then > we're not looking at that Truth for > what it can do for me, even though it > does for you and for me, over and over, > constantly giving itself. > > This is an open secret, an obvious > secret to living in Oneness: you have > to serve it-not because anybody said > so, because you don't have to serve it > if you don't want to. But you don't get > to live it all the time unless you > serve it all the time. > > > ~Adyashanti > > [ NNB ] > > > GuruRatings , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > GuruRatings , " clay " <dan.cesonrocks@> > > wrote: > > > > > > GuruRatings , " adithya_comming " > > <adithya_comming@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > People say what they need to hear most themselves! > > > > > > > > ~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > So what does a sage [having learnt > > > > what it needed to learn] do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does the sage stay Silent? > > > > > > > > > > > > > some seem to suggest that they do. > > > consider this zen teaching: > > > > > > > > > " When you are deluded and full of doubt, > > > even a thousand books of scripture are not enough. > > > When you have realized understanding, > > > even one word is too much. " > > > > > > > > > clay > > > > > > > Thanks Clay! > > The difference between > a sage [one who has learned] and the > someone lost in dream is that: > > > A Sage knows he/she is here to serve! > > > Whereas a worldly man believes that > the life here is to serve him! Beliving > so, such a man is constantly troubled by > life as he finds life not serving > him! > > > A sage understands this to be other way around > as he knows himself to be beyond any > need of service! He knows he needs no service > in order to be who is and, there is > nothing supreme that what he Already Is! > > > Thus, a sage may not need to say > anything in order to hear it; yet, > > > He/she might still keeps 'serving' > Life! > > And, his/her serving might > sometimes mean " talking " and sometime > it might mean staying silent! > > IMO... > > That who is firm in his understanding > to 'serve'... is the Sage! > > That who knows he himself is beyond > any need of 'service'... is the sage! > > > > And, > > > That who is looking for the world, the > life to serve him... is a man lost in dream! > > > --- > > *Sage: one who has learned Again - I > say " again " because in my observation, > we are all born with this Knowledge, we > only forget it somehow. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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