Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 How do you know that Jesus defeated death? Were you there? What's your evidence that can't be refuted? Just curious! Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson wrote: > > How do you know that Jesus defeated death? Were you there? What's your evidence that can't be refuted? Just curious! > > Michael > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson@> wrote: > > > > How do you know that Jesus defeated death? Were you there? What's > your evidence that can't be refuted? Just curious! > > > > Michael > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Hi toombaru, Yes! The " Jesus-conquering-death " story was very powerfully moving to me when I was young and even into my twenties +. At one point, it dawned on me that it was " just another story/concept/image, inherently powerless in inself unless impregnated with emotion, identification, and/or attachment. Simply another bubble appearing in deathless/unborn awareness. Perhaps " that " realization IS the conquering of death that Christ apparently is said to have *achieved* (so to speak) . And perhaps " this " itself is merely another story/bubble arising! :-) Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson wrote: > > > Hi toombaru, > > Yes! The " Jesus-conquering-death " story was very powerfully moving to me when I was young and even into my twenties +. At one point, it dawned on me that it was " just another story/concept/image, inherently powerless in inself unless impregnated with emotion, identification, and/or attachment. Simply another bubble appearing in deathless/unborn awareness. Perhaps " that " realization IS the conquering of death that Christ apparently is said to have *achieved* (so to speak) . And perhaps " this " itself is merely another story/bubble arising! :-) > > Michael > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 And perhaps " this " itself is merely another story/bubble arising! :-) > > Michael > > > Live with that understanding......hold on to only that......and watch what happens. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > And perhaps " this " itself is merely another story/bubble arising! :-) > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > Live with that understanding......hold on to only that......and watch > what happens. > > > > toombaru oh for crying out loud! 'do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law'. 'you' can't hold onto anything..'you' grasp emptiness for god sake. the last thing 'you' need is more illusions to grasp. and nothing 'will' happen.......all is now. either 'be that now' or wait for ever for this mysterious 'something' to 'happen'. it is much simpler than thew above mumbo jumbo.. 'you' can live the letter, rather than the spirit, of the understanding as is suggested to you above..... and never arrive... or you can disappear and claim the treasure that is yours already and always. ..b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > And perhaps " this " itself is merely another story/bubble arising! :-) > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Live with that understanding......hold on to only that......and watch > > what happens. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > oh for crying out loud! 'do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the > law'. 'you' can't hold onto anything..'you' grasp emptiness for god > sake. the last thing 'you' need is more illusions to grasp. and > nothing 'will' happen.......all is now. Bobby......there is no 'now'......Its time to let even that go. toombaru either 'be that now' or wait > for ever for this mysterious 'something' to 'happen'. it is much > simpler than thew above mumbo jumbo.. 'you' can live the letter, > rather than the spirit, of the understanding as is suggested to you > above..... and never arrive... or you can disappear and claim the > treasure that is yours already and always. > > > .b > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > And perhaps " this " itself is merely another story/bubble arising! :-) > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Live with that understanding......hold on to only that......and watch > > > what happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > oh for crying out loud! 'do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the > > law'. 'you' can't hold onto anything..'you' grasp emptiness for god > > sake. the last thing 'you' need is more illusions to grasp. and > > nothing 'will' happen.......all is now. > Bobby......there is no 'now'......Its time to let even that go. > > > > toombaru > toom....if there is no 'now' there is no 'then' and no 'will be'...and there is most certainly NOT, under those circumstances, any such thing as 'time to let go'. you talk nonsense....there is no time, so take time to realize it's time to let go???????????????????? man where do you come up with this stuff from? ..b ................................NNB................................... > > either 'be that now' or wait > > for ever for this mysterious 'something' to 'happen'. it is much > > simpler than thew above mumbo jumbo.. 'you' can live the letter, > > rather than the spirit, of the understanding as is suggested to you > > above..... and never arrive... or you can disappear and claim the > > treasure that is yours already and always. > > > > > > .b > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 no now,no you to let go or watch,it will happen or it wont.diana toombaru2006 <lastrain wrote: --- In Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > And perhaps " this " itself is merely another story/bubble arising! :-) > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Live with that understanding......hold on to only that......and watch > > what happens. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > oh for crying out loud! 'do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the > law'. 'you' can't hold onto anything..'you' grasp emptiness for god > sake. the last thing 'you' need is more illusions to grasp. and > nothing 'will' happen.......all is now. Bobby......there is no 'now'......Its time to let even that go. toombaru either 'be that now' or wait > for ever for this mysterious 'something' to 'happen'. it is much > simpler than thew above mumbo jumbo.. 'you' can live the letter, > rather than the spirit, of the understanding as is suggested to you > above..... and never arrive... or you can disappear and claim the > treasure that is yours already and always. > > > .b > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 theres no him,only stuff.diana roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: --- In Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > And perhaps " this " itself is merely another story/bubble arising! :-) > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Live with that understanding......hold on to only that......and watch > > > what happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > oh for crying out loud! 'do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the > > law'. 'you' can't hold onto anything..'you' grasp emptiness for god > > sake. the last thing 'you' need is more illusions to grasp. and > > nothing 'will' happen.......all is now. > Bobby......there is no 'now'......Its time to let even that go. > > > > toombaru > toom....if there is no 'now' there is no 'then' and no 'will be'...and there is most certainly NOT, under those circumstances, any such thing as 'time to let go'. you talk nonsense....there is no time, so take time to realize it's time to let go???????????????????? man where do you come up with this stuff from? ..b ................................NNB................................... > > either 'be that now' or wait > > for ever for this mysterious 'something' to 'happen'. it is much > > simpler than thew above mumbo jumbo.. 'you' can live the letter, > > rather than the spirit, of the understanding as is suggested to you > > above..... and never arrive... or you can disappear and claim the > > treasure that is yours already and always. > > > > > > .b > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellam wrote: > > no now,no you to let go or watch,it will happen or it wont.diana > Beautiful. t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellam@> > wrote: > > > > no now,no you to let go or watch,it will happen or it wont.diana > > > > > > Beautiful. > > > t. no 'beautiful'...even this 'beautiful' must be let go of...'i' see 'it' is still with 'you'. slowly there is ripening, but the time is not yet. stay the course and stick with 'it'. and 'it' may become apparent. take heart for 'i' would encourage and embolden 'you' so that notwithstanding 'your' dimness of vision, 'you' may one day 'see'. be without judgement... good or bad, beautiful or not...and 'it' reveals itself and 'one' will be as pleased as the peaches in heaven are so pleased for the pleasure of the One. ..b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Mystery, Magic, Marvel, and Laughter my friend! :-) Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson wrote: > > How do you know that Jesus defeated death? Were you there? What's your evidence that can't be refuted? Just curious! how do you know that jesus was alive? and what do you understand by alive? ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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