Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Namaste, You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to killing 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is presently being tried for the killing of 6. We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen south of our border. However his statements on the first day are revealing. On his pig farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years old, and seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a calf, and seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it was butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have been traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver and he mentioned this. So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and killed so many prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to the pigs on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in the end the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers might contain human remains. Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the fact he slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges and addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary human meat eater has, that cannot make the connection between the meat on his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent animal...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Dearest Tony, Funny thing about 'experiences' and how someone reacts to them and 'who' they become because of it. Especially children. My son's partner was traumatized as a young girl when she went to visit a friend (this took place in North Dakota) and she was made to behed a chicken for that evening's dinner. She hasn't touched chicken meat since. She won't eat it and still has a revulsion to anything that looks like pieces in food. Apparently her parents did not force her to go return (to her friend's) or berate her for her 'feelings'. It is exactly because we have to shut down from our absolutely devasted feelings as children, results of huge trauma that some if not all, inhuman acts are committed. I cannot imagine a childhood 'friend' calf or otherwise being butchered in front of such a young tender heart. Innocent hearts are buried in moments like these. Sometimes they are resurrected as mass murderers and sometimes as activists against such deeds. One never knows which side the blade of duality falls. Peace, Anna Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Namaste, > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to killing > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is presently being > tried for the killing of 6. > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen south of > our border. > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On his pig > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years old, and > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a calf, and > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it was > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have been > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver and he > mentioned this. > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and killed so many > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to the pigs > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in the end > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers might > contain human remains. > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the fact he > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges and > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary human meat > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the meat on > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > animal...Tony. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Namaste, > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to killing > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is presently being > tried for the killing of 6. > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen south of > our border. > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On his pig > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years old, and > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a calf, and > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it was > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have been > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver and he > mentioned this. > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and killed so many > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to the pigs > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in the end > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers might > contain human remains. > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the fact he > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges and > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary human meat > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the meat on > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > animal...Tony. > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish soap that you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent animals " then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. High horses can also be eaten. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to killing > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is presently being > > tried for the killing of 6. > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen south of > > our border. > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On his pig > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years old, and > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a calf, and > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it was > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have been > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver and he > > mentioned this. > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and killed so many > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to the pigs > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in the end > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers might > > contain human remains. > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the fact he > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges and > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary human meat > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the meat on > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish soap that > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent animals " > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > toombaru there is no such thing as an 'innocent animal' whether of the bug kind or the human animal kind. horse is delicious. and so are small babies if they have been prepared properly in their own gravy. i'm speaking of baby beef or veal of course, but it doesn't matter. babies is babies says the baba. ..b bobji baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to killing > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is presently being > > tried for the killing of 6. > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen south of > > our border. > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On his pig > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years old, and > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a calf, and > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it was > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have been > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver and he > > mentioned this. > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and killed so many > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to the pigs > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in the end > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers might > > contain human remains. > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the fact he > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges and > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary human meat > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the meat on > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish soap that > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent animals " > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > toombaru > Namaste, We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to take personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the Germans pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with your post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet when humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the human jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw it up again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is in it. Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's arses........Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to killing > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is presently being > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen south of > > > our border. > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On his pig > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years old, and > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a calf, and > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it was > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have been > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver and he > > > mentioned this. > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and killed so many > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to the pigs > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in the end > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers might > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the fact he > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges and > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary human meat > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the meat on > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish soap that > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent animals " > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > there is no such thing as an 'innocent animal' whether of the bug kind > or the human animal kind. horse is delicious. and so are small babies > if they have been prepared properly in their own gravy. i'm speaking > of baby beef or veal of course, but it doesn't matter. babies is > babies says the baba. > > > .b bobji baba > Food for thought. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to killing > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is presently > being > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen > south of > > > > our border. > > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On his pig > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years > old, and > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a calf, and > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it was > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have been > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver and he > > > > mentioned this. > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and killed so many > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to the > pigs > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in the end > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers might > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the fact he > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges and > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary human > meat > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the meat on > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish soap that > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent animals " > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > there is no such thing as an 'innocent animal' whether of the bug kind > > or the human animal kind. horse is delicious. and so are small babies > > if they have been prepared properly in their own gravy. i'm speaking > > of baby beef or veal of course, but it doesn't matter. babies is > > babies says the baba. > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > Food for thought. > > > toombaru chewing it over right now. ..b bobji baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to killing > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is presently > being > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen > south of > > > our border. > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On his pig > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years old, > and > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a calf, > and > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it was > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have been > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver and he > > > mentioned this. > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and killed so > many > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to the > pigs > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in the > end > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers might > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the fact he > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges and > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary human > meat > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the meat on > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish soap that > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent > animals " > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > Namaste, > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to take > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the Germans > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with your > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet when > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the human > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw it up > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is in it. > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's arses........Tony. > To assume that man is an aberration is but another expression of vanity. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to killing > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is presently > > being > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen > > south of > > > > our border. > > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On his pig > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years old, > > and > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a calf, > > and > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it was > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have been > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver and he > > > > mentioned this. > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and killed so > > many > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to the > > pigs > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in the > > end > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers might > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the fact he > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges and > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary human > > meat > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the meat on > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish soap that > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent > > animals " > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > Namaste, > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to take > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the Germans > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with your > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet when > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the human > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw it up > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is in it. > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's arses........Tony. > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another expression of vanity. > > > > toombaru only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any assumption that man is an aberration is just another expression of vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it is odd indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; all to human judgment making. ..b bobji baba (Seeing All but Above the Rub) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in > > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to killing > > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is presently > > > being > > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen > > > south of > > > > > our border. > > > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On his pig > > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years old, > > > and > > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a calf, > > > and > > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it was > > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have been > > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver and he > > > > > mentioned this. > > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and killed so > > > many > > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to the > > > pigs > > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in the > > > end > > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers might > > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the fact he > > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges and > > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary human > > > meat > > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the meat on > > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish soap that > > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent > > > animals " > > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to take > > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the Germans > > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with your > > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet when > > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic > > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the human > > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw it up > > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is in it. > > > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's arses........Tony. > > > > > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another expression of > vanity. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any > assumption that man is an aberration is just another expression of > vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it is odd > indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; all to human > judgment making. > > > .b bobji baba > > (Seeing All but Above the Rub) > It is vanity to suggest that another is vain to suggest that it is vanity that drives the assumption that it is vanity that drives the assumption that man is an abhorrent influence in nature. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in > > > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to > killing > > > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is presently > > > > being > > > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen > > > > south of > > > > > > our border. > > > > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On > his pig > > > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years > old, > > > > and > > > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a calf, > > > > and > > > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it > was > > > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have been > > > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver and he > > > > > > mentioned this. > > > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and killed so > > > > many > > > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to > the > > > > pigs > > > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in the > > > > end > > > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers might > > > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the > fact he > > > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges > and > > > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary > human > > > > meat > > > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the meat on > > > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish > soap that > > > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent > > > > animals " > > > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to take > > > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the Germans > > > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with your > > > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet when > > > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic > > > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the human > > > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw it up > > > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > > > > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is in it. > > > > > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's arses........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another expression of > > vanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any > > assumption that man is an aberration is just another expression of > > vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it is odd > > indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; all to human > > judgment making. > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > (Seeing All but Above the Rub) > > > > > > It is vanity to suggest that another is vain to suggest that it is > vanity that drives the assumption that it is vanity that drives the > assumption that man is an abhorrent influence in nature. > > > toombaru all is vanity! ..b bobju baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in > > > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to > killing > > > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is presently > > > > being > > > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen > > > > south of > > > > > > our border. > > > > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On > his pig > > > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years > old, > > > > and > > > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a calf, > > > > and > > > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it > was > > > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have been > > > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver and he > > > > > > mentioned this. > > > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and killed so > > > > many > > > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to > the > > > > pigs > > > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in the > > > > end > > > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers might > > > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the > fact he > > > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges > and > > > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary > human > > > > meat > > > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the meat on > > > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish > soap that > > > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent > > > > animals " > > > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to take > > > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the Germans > > > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with your > > > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet when > > > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic > > > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the human > > > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw it up > > > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > > > > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is in it. > > > > > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's arses........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another expression of > > vanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any > > assumption that man is an aberration is just another expression of > > vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it is odd > > indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; all to human > > judgment making. > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > (Seeing All but Above the Rub) > > > > > > It is vanity to suggest that another is vain to suggest that it is > vanity that drives the assumption that it is vanity that drives the > assumption that man is an abhorrent influence in nature. > > > toombaru oh man......all is vanity! ..b bobji baba (Coiner of Phrases) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in > > > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to > killing > > > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is presently > > > > being > > > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen > > > > south of > > > > > > our border. > > > > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On > his pig > > > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years > old, > > > > and > > > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a calf, > > > > and > > > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it > was > > > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have been > > > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver and he > > > > > > mentioned this. > > > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and killed so > > > > many > > > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to > the > > > > pigs > > > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in the > > > > end > > > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers might > > > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the > fact he > > > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges > and > > > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary > human > > > > meat > > > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the meat on > > > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish > soap that > > > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent > > > > animals " > > > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to take > > > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the Germans > > > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with your > > > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet when > > > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic > > > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the human > > > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw it up > > > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > > > > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is in it. > > > > > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's arses........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another expression of > > vanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any > > assumption that man is an aberration is just another expression of > > vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it is odd > > indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; all to human > > judgment making. > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > (Seeing All but Above the Rub) > > > > > > It is vanity to suggest that another is vain to suggest that it is > vanity that drives the assumption that it is vanity that drives the > assumption that man is an abhorrent influence in nature. > > > toombaru > ....and on the vain*th day toombaru rested... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in > > > > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to > > killing > > > > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is > presently > > > > > being > > > > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen > > > > > south of > > > > > > > our border. > > > > > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On > > his pig > > > > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years > > old, > > > > > and > > > > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a > calf, > > > > > and > > > > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it > > was > > > > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have > been > > > > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver > and he > > > > > > > mentioned this. > > > > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and > killed so > > > > > many > > > > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to > > the > > > > > pigs > > > > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in > the > > > > > end > > > > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers > might > > > > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the > > fact he > > > > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges > > and > > > > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > > > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary > > human > > > > > meat > > > > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the > meat on > > > > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > > > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish > > soap that > > > > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent > > > > > animals " > > > > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to take > > > > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the Germans > > > > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with your > > > > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet when > > > > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic > > > > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the human > > > > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw > it up > > > > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > > > > > > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is in it. > > > > > > > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's > arses........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another expression of > > > vanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any > > > assumption that man is an aberration is just another expression of > > > vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it is odd > > > indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; all to human > > > judgment making. > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > (Seeing All but Above the Rub) > > > > > > > > > > > It is vanity to suggest that another is vain to suggest that it is > > vanity that drives the assumption that it is vanity that drives the > > assumption that man is an abhorrent influence in nature. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > all is vanity! > > .b bobju baba > The ultimate vanity....is to proclaim that " All is Vanity " . (bumper sticker) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial > here in > > > > > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to > > > killing > > > > > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is > > presently > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to > happen > > > > > > south of > > > > > > > > our border. > > > > > > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On > > > his pig > > > > > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years > > > old, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a > > calf, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it > > > was > > > > > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have > > been > > > > > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver > > and he > > > > > > > > mentioned this. > > > > > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and > > killed so > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to > > > the > > > > > > pigs > > > > > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in > > the > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers > > might > > > > > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the > > > fact he > > > > > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges > > > and > > > > > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > > > > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary > > > human > > > > > > meat > > > > > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the > > meat on > > > > > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > > > > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish > > > soap that > > > > > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent > > > > > > animals " > > > > > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to > take > > > > > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the > Germans > > > > > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with > your > > > > > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet > when > > > > > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic > > > > > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the > human > > > > > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw > > it up > > > > > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is in it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's > > arses........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another expression of > > > > vanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any > > > > assumption that man is an aberration is just another expression of > > > > vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it is odd > > > > indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; all to > human > > > > judgment making. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > (Seeing All but Above the Rub) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is vanity to suggest that another is vain to suggest that it is > > > vanity that drives the assumption that it is vanity that drives the > > > assumption that man is an abhorrent influence in nature. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > all is vanity! > > > > .b bobju baba > > > > > > The ultimate vanity....is to proclaim that " All is Vanity " . > > > > > (bumper sticker) > > > > > toombaru > well i'm an ultimate sorta dude, bumper sticker, and nice meeting you. and a thanks go out to you too toombaru for sending his info. now carry on with your studies........both of you! right now!...well actually what else do you have but now...and at that there's no such thing...ultimately...which brings us back to our beloved and ultimate ..b bobji baba. it all ends where it starts, and the trip from here to there is all not happening 'really'. only .b bobji baba 'is', and as you, he adores 'himself', but in his case there is no vanity. the's truly the ultimate. ..b bobji baba (the Un-understandable Understanding [himself]) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial here in > > > > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to > > killing > > > > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is > presently > > > > > being > > > > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to happen > > > > > south of > > > > > > > our border. > > > > > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On > > his pig > > > > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years > > old, > > > > > and > > > > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a > calf, > > > > > and > > > > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it > > was > > > > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have > been > > > > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver > and he > > > > > > > mentioned this. > > > > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and > killed so > > > > > many > > > > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to > > the > > > > > pigs > > > > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in > the > > > > > end > > > > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers > might > > > > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the > > fact he > > > > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges > > and > > > > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > > > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary > > human > > > > > meat > > > > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the > meat on > > > > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > > > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish > > soap that > > > > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent > > > > > animals " > > > > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to take > > > > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the Germans > > > > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with your > > > > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet when > > > > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic > > > > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the human > > > > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw > it up > > > > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > > > > > > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is in it. > > > > > > > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's > arses........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another expression of > > > vanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any > > > assumption that man is an aberration is just another expression of > > > vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it is odd > > > indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; all to human > > > judgment making. > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > (Seeing All but Above the Rub) > > > > > > > > > > > It is vanity to suggest that another is vain to suggest that it is > > vanity that drives the assumption that it is vanity that drives the > > assumption that man is an abhorrent influence in nature. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > oh man......all is vanity! > > .b bobji baba > > Only in the make believe kingdom. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial > here in > > > > > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to > > > killing > > > > > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is > > presently > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to > happen > > > > > > south of > > > > > > > > our border. > > > > > > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On > > > his pig > > > > > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years > > > old, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a > > calf, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it > > > was > > > > > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have > > been > > > > > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver > > and he > > > > > > > > mentioned this. > > > > > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and > > killed so > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to > > > the > > > > > > pigs > > > > > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in > > the > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers > > might > > > > > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the > > > fact he > > > > > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges > > > and > > > > > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > > > > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary > > > human > > > > > > meat > > > > > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the > > meat on > > > > > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > > > > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish > > > soap that > > > > > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent > > > > > > animals " > > > > > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to > take > > > > > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the > Germans > > > > > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with > your > > > > > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet > when > > > > > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic > > > > > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the > human > > > > > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw > > it up > > > > > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is in it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's > > arses........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another expression of > > > > vanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any > > > > assumption that man is an aberration is just another expression of > > > > vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it is odd > > > > indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; all to > human > > > > judgment making. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > (Seeing All but Above the Rub) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is vanity to suggest that another is vain to suggest that it is > > > vanity that drives the assumption that it is vanity that drives the > > > assumption that man is an abhorrent influence in nature. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > oh man......all is vanity! > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > Only in the make believe kingdom. > > > toombaru made up by and for who and why? i know the answer but i',m not vain enough to suppose i'm the only one who does. give it a whirl. give an answer that isn't just another question. ..b bobji baba (satsangs on saturday. bargain basement prices for heaven on earth!) 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Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > '> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > <aoclery@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial > > here in > > > > > > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to > > > > killing > > > > > > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is > > > presently > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > > > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to > > happen > > > > > > > south of > > > > > > > > > our border. > > > > > > > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On > > > > his pig > > > > > > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 > years > > > > old, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a > > > calf, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home > and it > > > > was > > > > > > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have > > > been > > > > > > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > > > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver > > > and he > > > > > > > > > mentioned this. > > > > > > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and > > > killed so > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding > them to > > > > the > > > > > > > pigs > > > > > > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in > > > the > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers > > > might > > > > > > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the > > > > fact he > > > > > > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic > urges > > > > and > > > > > > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete > cognitive > > > > > > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary > > > > human > > > > > > > meat > > > > > > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the > > > meat on > > > > > > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an > innocent > > > > > > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish > > > > soap that > > > > > > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more > " innocent > > > > > > > animals " > > > > > > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to > > take > > > > > > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the > > Germans > > > > > > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with > > your > > > > > > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet > > when > > > > > > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic > > > > > > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the > > human > > > > > > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw > > > it up > > > > > > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is in it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's > > > arses........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another > expression of > > > > > vanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any > > > > > assumption that man is an aberration is just another expression of > > > > > vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it is odd > > > > > indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; all to > > human > > > > > judgment making. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > (Seeing All but Above the Rub) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is vanity to suggest that another is vain to suggest that it is > > > > vanity that drives the assumption that it is vanity that drives the > > > > assumption that man is an abhorrent influence in nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > oh man......all is vanity! > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only in the make believe kingdom. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > made up by Conceptualization > and for who Identification and why? No reason. 'Reason' would assume reality. toombaru i know the answer but i',m not vain > enough to suppose i'm the only one who does. give it a whirl. give an > answer that isn't just another question. > > > .b bobji baba > > (satsangs on saturday. bargain basement prices for heaven on earth!) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > '> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > <aoclery@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial > > > here in > > > > > > > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to > > > > > killing > > > > > > > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is > > > > presently > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > > > > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to > > > happen > > > > > > > > south of > > > > > > > > > > our border. > > > > > > > > > > However his statements on the first day are > revealing. On > > > > > his pig > > > > > > > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 > > years > > > > > old, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he > bought a > > > > calf, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home > > and it > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must > have > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > > > > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver > > > > and he > > > > > > > > > > mentioned this. > > > > > > > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and > > > > killed so > > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding > > them to > > > > > the > > > > > > > > pigs > > > > > > > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, > and in > > > > the > > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers > > > > might > > > > > > > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection > to the > > > > > fact he > > > > > > > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic > > urges > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete > > cognitive > > > > > > > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the > ordinary > > > > > human > > > > > > > > meat > > > > > > > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the > > > > meat on > > > > > > > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an > > innocent > > > > > > > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish > > > > > soap that > > > > > > > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more > > " innocent > > > > > > > > animals " > > > > > > > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to > > > take > > > > > > > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the > > > Germans > > > > > > > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with > > > your > > > > > > > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet > > > when > > > > > > > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic > > > > > > > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the > > > human > > > > > > > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw > > > > it up > > > > > > > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is > in it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's > > > > arses........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another > > expression of > > > > > > vanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any > > > > > > assumption that man is an aberration is just another > expression of > > > > > > vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it is odd > > > > > > indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; all to > > > human > > > > > > judgment making. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > (Seeing All but Above the Rub) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is vanity to suggest that another is vain to suggest that it is > > > > > vanity that drives the assumption that it is vanity that > drives the > > > > > assumption that man is an abhorrent influence in nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh man......all is vanity! > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only in the make believe kingdom. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > made up by > > > > > > Conceptualization except on thursdays of course. then conceptualization is busy playing bridge with formularising and articulating and perception, and conception keeps score. yes toombaru has his wits about him this day.....NOT. > > and for who > Identification > you identify with this answer don't you, you silly goose! > > > > and why? No reason. oh hell i guess that's as good a reason as any other. and it cuts down on the usual circumlocution you usually bs with. > 'Reason' would assume reality. > toombaru well this statement assumes that 'reason' assumes reality; but, that's all just some silly reasoning on your part. no? no more valid than it's opposite. ..b bobji baba .. DON'T MISS THE IMPORTANT (satsang) SCHEDULE BELOW! > i know the answer but i',m not vain > > enough to suppose i'm the only one who does. give it a whirl. give an > > answer that isn't just another question. > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > (satsangs on saturday. bargain basement prices for heaven on earth!) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > '> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > <aoclery@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial > > > > here in > > > > > > > > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, > admits to > > > > > > killing > > > > > > > > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is > > > > > presently > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > > > > > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to > > > > happen > > > > > > > > > south of > > > > > > > > > > > our border. > > > > > > > > > > > However his statements on the first day are > > revealing. On > > > > > > his pig > > > > > > > > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 > > > years > > > > > > old, > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he > > bought a > > > > > calf, > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home > > > and it > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must > > have > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > > > > > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to > Vancouver > > > > > and he > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned this. > > > > > > > > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and > > > > > killed so > > > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding > > > them to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > pigs > > > > > > > > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, > > and in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in > freezers > > > > > might > > > > > > > > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection > > to the > > > > > > fact he > > > > > > > > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic > > > urges > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete > > > cognitive > > > > > > > > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the > > ordinary > > > > > > human > > > > > > > > > meat > > > > > > > > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the > > > > > meat on > > > > > > > > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an > > > innocent > > > > > > > > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and > the dish > > > > > > soap that > > > > > > > > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more > > > " innocent > > > > > > > > > animals " > > > > > > > > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One > has to > > > > take > > > > > > > > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the > > > > Germans > > > > > > > > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I > agree with > > > > your > > > > > > > > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the > planet > > > > when > > > > > > > > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the > genetic > > > > > > > > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to > prevent the > > > > human > > > > > > > > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so > screw > > > > > it up > > > > > > > > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is > > in it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's > > > > > arses........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another > > > expression of > > > > > > > vanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any > > > > > > > assumption that man is an aberration is just another > > expression of > > > > > > > vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it > is odd > > > > > > > indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; > all to > > > > human > > > > > > > judgment making. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Seeing All but Above the Rub) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is vanity to suggest that another is vain to suggest that > it is > > > > > > vanity that drives the assumption that it is vanity that > > drives the > > > > > > assumption that man is an abhorrent influence in nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh man......all is vanity! > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only in the make believe kingdom. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > made up by > > > > > > > > > > > > Conceptualization > > > > except on thursdays of course. then conceptualization is busy playing > bridge with formularising and articulating and perception, and > conception keeps score. yes toombaru has his wits about him this > day.....NOT. > > > > > > and for who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Identification > > > > > you identify with this answer don't you, you silly goose! > > > > > > > > and why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No reason. > > > > > oh hell i guess that's as good a reason as any other. and it cuts down > on the usual circumlocution you usually bs with. > > > > > 'Reason' would assume reality. > > > toombaru > > > > well this statement assumes that 'reason' assumes reality; but, that's > all just some silly reasoning on your part. no? no more valid than > it's opposite. > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > . DON'T MISS THE IMPORTANT (satsang) SCHEDULE BELOW! > > > > > > > i know the answer but i',m not vain > > > enough to suppose i'm the only one who does. give it a whirl. give an > > > answer that isn't just another question. > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > (satsangs on saturday. bargain basement prices for heaven on earth!) > > > > > > You claim to know the answers to your questions. Let's hear them. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > '> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > <aoclery@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton > trial > > > > > here in > > > > > > > > > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, > > admits to > > > > > > > killing > > > > > > > > > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is > > > > > > presently > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > > > > > > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only > supposed to > > > > > happen > > > > > > > > > > south of > > > > > > > > > > > > our border. > > > > > > > > > > > > However his statements on the first day are > > > revealing. On > > > > > > > his pig > > > > > > > > > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he > was 13 > > > > years > > > > > > > old, > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he > > > bought a > > > > > > calf, > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came > home > > > > and it > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must > > > have > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > > > > > > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to > > Vancouver > > > > > > and he > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned this. > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and > > > > > > killed so > > > > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding > > > > them to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > pigs > > > > > > > > > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, > > > and in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in > > freezers > > > > > > might > > > > > > > > > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection > > > to the > > > > > > > fact he > > > > > > > > > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the > egotistic > > > > urges > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete > > > > cognitive > > > > > > > > > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the > > > ordinary > > > > > > > human > > > > > > > > > > meat > > > > > > > > > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection > between the > > > > > > meat on > > > > > > > > > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an > > > > innocent > > > > > > > > > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and > > the dish > > > > > > > soap that > > > > > > > > > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more > > > > " innocent > > > > > > > > > > animals " > > > > > > > > > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One > > has to > > > > > take > > > > > > > > > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the > > > > > Germans > > > > > > > > > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I > > agree with > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the > > planet > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the > > genetic > > > > > > > > > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to > > prevent the > > > > > human > > > > > > > > > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so > > screw > > > > > > it up > > > > > > > > > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to > pollute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is > > > in it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's > > > > > > arses........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another > > > > expression of > > > > > > > > vanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any > > > > > > > > assumption that man is an aberration is just another > > > expression of > > > > > > > > vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it > > is odd > > > > > > > > indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; > > all to > > > > > human > > > > > > > > judgment making. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Seeing All but Above the Rub) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is vanity to suggest that another is vain to suggest that > > it is > > > > > > > vanity that drives the assumption that it is vanity that > > > drives the > > > > > > > assumption that man is an abhorrent influence in nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh man......all is vanity! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only in the make believe kingdom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > made up by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conceptualization > > > > > > > > except on thursdays of course. then conceptualization is busy playing > > bridge with formularising and articulating and perception, and > > conception keeps score. yes toombaru has his wits about him this > > day.....NOT. > > > > > > > > > > and for who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Identification > > > > > > > > > you identify with this answer don't you, you silly goose! > > > > > > > > > > > > and why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No reason. > > > > > > > > > > oh hell i guess that's as good a reason as any other. and it cuts down > > on the usual circumlocution you usually bs with. > > > > > > > > > 'Reason' would assume reality. > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > well this statement assumes that 'reason' assumes reality; but, that's > > all just some silly reasoning on your part. no? no more valid than > > it's opposite. > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > . DON'T MISS THE IMPORTANT (satsang) SCHEDULE BELOW! > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know the answer but i',m not vain > > > > enough to suppose i'm the only one who does. give it a whirl. > give an > > > > answer that isn't just another question. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > (satsangs on saturday. bargain basement prices for heaven on earth!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You claim to know the answers to your questions. > > > Let's hear them. > > > > > > toombaru > no! no more questions for questions. i specifically asked you not to do that......that's your favorite evasive move, other than joking or trying an endearment or two. answer straight or not at all. i'll not be drawn into an off topic posting. this thread is about the pig farmer Willy Pickton and his secret to success. please get back on line. ..b bobji baba (Knows All Talks Little) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 united kingdom? roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: --- In Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial > here in > > > > > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to > > > killing > > > > > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is > > presently > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to > happen > > > > > > south of > > > > > > > > our border. > > > > > > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On > > > his pig > > > > > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 years > > > old, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a > > calf, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home and it > > > was > > > > > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have > > been > > > > > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver > > and he > > > > > > > > mentioned this. > > > > > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and > > killed so > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding them to > > > the > > > > > > pigs > > > > > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in > > the > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers > > might > > > > > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the > > > fact he > > > > > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic urges > > > and > > > > > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete cognitive > > > > > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary > > > human > > > > > > meat > > > > > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the > > meat on > > > > > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an innocent > > > > > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish > > > soap that > > > > > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more " innocent > > > > > > animals " > > > > > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to > take > > > > > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the > Germans > > > > > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with > your > > > > > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet > when > > > > > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic > > > > > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the > human > > > > > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw > > it up > > > > > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is in it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's > > arses........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another expression of > > > > vanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any > > > > assumption that man is an aberration is just another expression of > > > > vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it is odd > > > > indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; all to > human > > > > judgment making. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > (Seeing All but Above the Rub) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is vanity to suggest that another is vain to suggest that it is > > > vanity that drives the assumption that it is vanity that drives the > > > assumption that man is an abhorrent influence in nature. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > oh man......all is vanity! > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > Only in the make believe kingdom. > > > toombaru made up by and for who and why? i know the answer but i',m not vain enough to suppose i'm the only one who does. give it a whirl. give an answer that isn't just another question. ..b bobji baba (satsangs on saturday. bargain basement prices for heaven on earth!) 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Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , diana shellam <diana.shellam wrote: > > united kingdom? kingdom of Oz. ..b bobji baba (Shoe Bearer to Glinda Good Witch of the North) >NNB< > roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: --- In Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > <aoclery@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You no doubt have heard about the Willy Pickton trial > > here in > > > > > > > > > Vancouver.He is charged with killing 26 women, admits to > > > > killing > > > > > > > > > 49,,mostly Native women, trying to get to 50, and is > > > presently > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > tried for the killing of 6. > > > > > > > > > We are shocked in Canada for this is only supposed to > > happen > > > > > > > south of > > > > > > > > > our border. > > > > > > > > > However his statements on the first day are revealing. On > > > > his pig > > > > > > > > > farm he was taught to slaughter animals when he was 13 > years > > > > old, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > seemed proud of it. However when he was young he bought a > > > calf, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > seemingly became attached to it. One day he came home > and it > > > > was > > > > > > > > > butchered and hung up in the slaughterhouse. It must have > > > been > > > > > > > > > traumatic for he didn't speak for 4 days. > > > > > > > > > Later his fiance wouldn't move from Chicago to Vancouver > > > and he > > > > > > > > > mentioned this. > > > > > > > > > So it is not hard to see why he became disturbed and > > > killed so > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > prostitutes, slaughtering them like pigs and feeding > them to > > > > the > > > > > > > pigs > > > > > > > > > on his farm. Many people bought meat from his farm, and in > > > the > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > the police had to warn people that some meat in freezers > > > might > > > > > > > > > contain human remains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course our psychologists can make no connection to the > > > > fact he > > > > > > > > > slaughtered innocent animals, to satisfy the egotistic > urges > > > > and > > > > > > > > > addictions of humans, and his behaviour: complete > cognitive > > > > > > > > > dissonance!..........The same dissonance that the ordinary > > > > human > > > > > > > meat > > > > > > > > > eater has, that cannot make the connection between the > > > meat on > > > > > > > > > his/her plate and the cruelty and slaughter of an > innocent > > > > > > > > > animal...Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The antibiotic that you took the other day....and the dish > > > > soap that > > > > > > > > you washed your dishes with.........killed far more > " innocent > > > > > > > animals " > > > > > > > > then all the slaughter houses in the entire world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > High horses can also be eaten. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can only do what we can and that consciously. One has to > > take > > > > > > > personal interventionist responsibility. Or its like the > > Germans > > > > > > > pretending they didn't know about the camps etc.I agree with > > your > > > > > > > post that is why I said it will be a blessing for the planet > > when > > > > > > > humankind is finally,and assuredly, extinct and the genetic > > > > > > > experiment is over. Then the Devas will have to prevent the > > human > > > > > > > jivas from reincarnating into the new evolvment and so screw > > > it up > > > > > > > again. No doubt they will find another planet to pollute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is all within illusion but its real whilst one is in it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not only high horses can be eaten so kind horse's > > > arses........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To assume that man is an aberration is but another > expression of > > > > > vanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only the vain would believe they can fairly suggest that any > > > > > assumption that man is an aberration is just another expression of > > > > > vanity. when the vain are determining what vanity is, it is odd > > > > > indeed. it is an aberrant expression of judgment making; all to > > human > > > > > judgment making. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > (Seeing All but Above the Rub) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is vanity to suggest that another is vain to suggest that it is > > > > vanity that drives the assumption that it is vanity that drives the > > > > assumption that man is an abhorrent influence in nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > oh man......all is vanity! > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only in the make believe kingdom. > > > > > > toombaru > > made up by and for who and why? i know the answer but i',m not vain > enough to suppose i'm the only one who does. give it a whirl. give an > answer that isn't just another question. > > .b bobji baba > > (satsangs on saturday. bargain basement prices for heaven on earth!) 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