If all is in consciousness then who other people? - - -

[Guest guest]

If consciousness exists, he/she starts aware of external objects or internal

imaginations.

 

If you say something more (supreme consciousness as per you) exists beyond

consciousness in all human beings, then why a human being dies if food is not

taken for long time?

 

Have you heard of deaths due to hunger?

 

If supreme consciousness above consciousness exists in all human beings, then

there can never hunger deaths.

 

at lotus feet of swami

surya

 

tigerlily_du_lac <tigerlily_du_lac wrote:

Prakki

 

>When the food is not supplied, the awareness is unable to

>produce the heat energy, which can maintain the activities of the

>body. The awareness is also unable to produce even a single atom of

>matter. Therefore, awareness cannot generate any item of the world.

>Moreover awareness is discontinuous and therefore you cannot consider

>that this world is made of awareness.

 

When you say " awareness " do you mean consciousness? What about the

supreme state, that it is beyond consciousness? That which shines on

all? That eternal. Well, what about an atom? And a plant? There is

some awareness there to.

 

I don't think you speak with knowledge of supreme. Vedanta mean end of

the Vedas so why speaking on Veda? Also all duality.

 

 

.

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

The human body is designed to die.

 

That is because it doesn't have a separate existence.

 

All living beings die, because life energy is flow and movement, not

something static existing separately in a cage.

 

The life energy includes all that is, moves through all that is, yet

is not contained by anything that is.

 

Life energy/awareness includes far more than the body of the human

being, but it excludes nothing, not even space.

 

Space is not devoid of energy.

 

Energy and awareness are not-two.

 

Therefore matter is not separate from energy.

 

Just ask Albert.

 

How else do you think your body and brain came to be (for a while)?

 

To say that awareness can't form matter is like saying awareness can't

form awareness.

 

How will one know truth if one depends on one's conceptuality for knowing?

 

The only way to know truth is to be truth, and to be truth is to be

empty, and to be empty is not to rely on words as containers for

awareness/energy.

 

-- Dan

 

(nothing new below)

 

Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote:

>

> If consciousness exists, he/she starts aware of external objects or

internal imaginations.

>

> If you say something more (supreme consciousness as per you)

exists beyond consciousness in all human beings, then why a human

being dies if food is not taken for long time?

>

> Have you heard of deaths due to hunger?

>

> If supreme consciousness above consciousness exists in all human

beings, then there can never hunger deaths.

>

> at lotus feet of swami

> surya

>

> tigerlily_du_lac <tigerlily_du_lac wrote:

> Prakki

>

> >When the food is not supplied, the awareness is unable to

> >produce the heat energy, which can maintain the activities of the

> >body. The awareness is also unable to produce even a single atom of

> >matter. Therefore, awareness cannot generate any item of the world.

> >Moreover awareness is discontinuous and therefore you cannot consider

> >that this world is made of awareness.

>

> When you say " awareness " do you mean consciousness? What about the

> supreme state, that it is beyond consciousness? That which shines on

> all? That eternal. Well, what about an atom? And a plant? There is

> some awareness there to.

>

> I don't think you speak with knowledge of supreme. Vedanta mean end of

> the Vedas so why speaking on Veda? Also all duality.

>

>

> .

>

>

>

>

> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.

> Try the free Mail Beta.

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> The only way to know truth is to be truth, and to be truth is to be

> empty, and to be empty is not to rely on words as containers for

> awareness/energy.

>

> -- Dan

 

 

Nothing can be empty.

 

 

 

toombaru

[Guest guest]

Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert energy, which comes from

digestion of food, when flows through the nervous system generates the

awareness. The human being looses consciousness (awareness) when food is not

taken for longer time.

 

A part of the heat energy released from digestion of food is used to generate

awareness in nervous system. A part remains as inert energy only and is utilised

to operate other bodily systems. Ex: breathing system, lungs require energy to

expand and contract. These bodily systems require inert energy to operate but do

not awareness.

 

the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it becomes the inert energy,

from which it is generated. And once again, when human being wakes up in the

morning or comes out of coma, this inert energy is converted to awareness. in

deep sleep, nervous system is not operational and hence, awareness does not

generate.

 

In the last stage of the patient, though digestion stops, the respiration

continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is supplied. Instead of food, the

stored fat is oxidized. Therefore the patient is alive for sometime in spite of

the absence of food.

 

After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either due to damage in the

system or due to inadequate supply of the heat energy. This is the stage of

unconsciousness. Finally in the last stage, the oxidation stops and no more heat

energy is produced. We say hat the human being is dead due to absence of any

trace of heat and the body becomes cool. This process of death is described in

Veda (Manastejasi tejassati).

 

Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of death, a small portion of

the heat energy is used in the formation of the energetic body that goes out of

the gross body along with the bundle of qualities, which are stored in the mind.

The scientist cannot prepare this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past

millions of births.

 

at lotus feet of swami

surya

 

dan330033 <dan330033 wrote:

The only way to know truth is to be truth, and to be truth is to be

empty, and to be empty is not to rely on words as containers for

awareness/energy.

 

-- Dan

 

(nothing new below)

 

Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote:

>

> If consciousness exists, he/she starts aware of external objects or

internal imaginations.

>

> If you say something more (supreme consciousness as per you)

exists beyond consciousness in all human beings, then why a human

being dies if food is not taken for long time?

>

> Have you heard of deaths due to hunger?

>

> If supreme consciousness above consciousness exists in all human

beings, then there can never hunger deaths.

>

> at lotus feet of swami

> surya

 

 

 

.

 

 

 

 

Be a PS3 game guru.

Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote:

>

> Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert energy,

which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the nervous

system generates the awareness. The human being looses consciousness

(awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

>

> A part of the heat energy released from digestion of food is used to

generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as inert energy

only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex: breathing

system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These bodily

systems require inert energy to operate but do not awareness.

>

> the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it becomes the

inert energy, from which it is generated. And once again, when human

being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this inert energy

is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system is not

operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

>

> In the last stage of the patient, though digestion stops, the

respiration continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is

supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized. Therefore the

patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of food.

>

> After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either due to

damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat energy.

This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last stage, the

oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say hat the

human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and the body

becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda (Manastejasi

tejassati).

>

> Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of death, a small

portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the energetic

body that goes out of the gross body along with the bundle of

qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist cannot prepare

this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past millions of births.

>

> at lotus feet of swami

> surya

 

 

you're kidding right?

 

..b b.b.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote:

>

> Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert energy,

which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the nervous

system generates the awareness. The human being looses consciousness

(awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

>

> A part of the heat energy released from digestion of food is used to

generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as inert energy

only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex: breathing

system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These bodily

systems require inert energy to operate but do not awareness.

>

> the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it becomes the

inert energy, from which it is generated. And once again, when human

being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this inert energy

is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system is not

operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

>

> In the last stage of the patient, though digestion stops, the

respiration continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is

supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized. Therefore the

patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of food.

>

> After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either due to

damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat energy.

This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last stage, the

oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say hat the

human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and the body

becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda (Manastejasi

tejassati).

>

> Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of death, a small

portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the energetic

body that goes out of the gross body along with the bundle of

qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist cannot prepare

this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past millions of births.

>

> at lotus feet of swami

> surya

>

 

 

Awareness is attempting to get a good look at itself.......an

altogether difficult undertaking.

 

 

 

toombaru

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000@>

wrote:

> >

> > Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert energy,

> which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the nervous

> system generates the awareness. The human being looses consciousness

> (awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

> >

> > A part of the heat energy released from digestion of food is used

to

> generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as inert energy

> only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex: breathing

> system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These bodily

> systems require inert energy to operate but do not awareness.

> >

> > the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it becomes the

> inert energy, from which it is generated. And once again, when human

> being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this inert

energy

> is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system is not

> operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

> >

> > In the last stage of the patient, though digestion stops, the

> respiration continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is

> supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized. Therefore the

> patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of food.

> >

> > After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either due to

> damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat energy.

> This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last stage, the

> oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say hat the

> human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and the body

> becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda

(Manastejasi

> tejassati).

> >

> > Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of death, a

small

> portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the energetic

> body that goes out of the gross body along with the bundle of

> qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist cannot

prepare

> this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past millions of

births.

> >

> > at lotus feet of swami

> > surya

> >

>

>

> Awareness is attempting to get a good look at itself.......an

> altogether difficult undertaking.

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

 

 

 

I can see myself in who I am not....

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

>

> >

> > The only way to know truth is to be truth, and to be truth is to be

> > empty, and to be empty is not to rely on words as containers for

> > awareness/energy.

> >

> > -- Dan

>

>

> Nothing can be empty.

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

To be empty is to be open.

 

-- D.

[Guest guest]

You think that energy and awareness have separate existence.

 

Yet, you couldn't know of energy as energy without being aware.

 

You assume energy to have a separate existence from your being-aware,

but that assumption only occurs because you are aware and using that

assumption.

 

One question I've found beneficial is this:

 

What is true, directly, immediately to, through, and as this awareness

here, now?

 

What is true that doesn't depend on the vocabulary I have, my

memories, books I've read, etc.?

 

What is immediately so?

 

-- Dan

 

(nothing new below)

 

Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote:

>

> Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert energy,

which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the nervous

system generates the awareness. The human being looses consciousness

(awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

>

> A part of the heat energy released from digestion of food is used to

generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as inert energy

only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex: breathing

system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These bodily

systems require inert energy to operate but do not awareness.

>

> the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it becomes the

inert energy, from which it is generated. And once again, when human

being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this inert energy

is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system is not

operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

>

> In the last stage of the patient, though digestion stops, the

respiration continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is

supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized. Therefore the

patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of food.

>

> After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either due to

damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat energy.

This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last stage, the

oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say hat the

human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and the body

becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda (Manastejasi

tejassati).

>

> Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of death, a small

portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the energetic

body that goes out of the gross body along with the bundle of

qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist cannot prepare

this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past millions of births.

>

> at lotus feet of swami

> surya

>

> dan330033 <dan330033 wrote:

> The only way to know truth is to be truth, and to be truth

is to be

> empty, and to be empty is not to rely on words as containers for

> awareness/energy.

>

> -- Dan

>

> (nothing new below)

>

> Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000@> wrote:

> >

> > If consciousness exists, he/she starts aware of external objects or

> internal imaginations.

> >

> > If you say something more (supreme consciousness as per you)

> exists beyond consciousness in all human beings, then why a human

> being dies if food is not taken for long time?

> >

> > Have you heard of deaths due to hunger?

> >

> > If supreme consciousness above consciousness exists in all human

> beings, then there can never hunger deaths.

> >

> > at lotus feet of swami

> > surya

>

>

>

> .

>

>

>

>

> Be a PS3 game guru.

> Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at

Games.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000@> wrote:

> >

> > Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert energy,

> which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the nervous

> system generates the awareness. The human being looses consciousness

> (awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

> >

> > A part of the heat energy released from digestion of food is used to

> generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as inert energy

> only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex: breathing

> system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These bodily

> systems require inert energy to operate but do not awareness.

> >

> > the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it becomes the

> inert energy, from which it is generated. And once again, when human

> being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this inert energy

> is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system is not

> operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

> >

> > In the last stage of the patient, though digestion stops, the

> respiration continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is

> supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized. Therefore the

> patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of food.

> >

> > After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either due to

> damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat energy.

> This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last stage, the

> oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say hat the

> human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and the body

> becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda (Manastejasi

> tejassati).

> >

> > Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of death, a small

> portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the energetic

> body that goes out of the gross body along with the bundle of

> qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist cannot prepare

> this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past millions of births.

> >

> > at lotus feet of swami

> > surya

> >

>

>

> Awareness is attempting to get a good look at itself.......an

> altogether difficult undertaking.

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

Awareness can't attempt anything.

 

-- D.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote:

 

>

> I can see myself in who I am not....

 

The who I am not, is who I am.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> You think that energy and awareness have separate existence.

>

> Yet, you couldn't know of energy as energy without being aware.

>

> You assume energy to have a separate existence from your being-aware,

> but that assumption only occurs because you are aware and using that

> assumption.

>

> One question I've found beneficial is this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To whom.........or what....... is it beneficial?

 

 

 

 

 

toombaru

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

> What is true, directly, immediately to, through, and as this awareness

> here, now?

>

> What is true that doesn't depend on the vocabulary I have, my

> memories, books I've read, etc.?

>

> What is immediately so?

>

> -- Dan

>

> (nothing new below)

>

> Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000@> wrote:

> >

> > Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert energy,

> which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the nervous

> system generates the awareness. The human being looses consciousness

> (awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

> >

> > A part of the heat energy released from digestion of food is used to

> generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as inert energy

> only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex: breathing

> system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These bodily

> systems require inert energy to operate but do not awareness.

> >

> > the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it becomes the

> inert energy, from which it is generated. And once again, when human

> being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this inert energy

> is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system is not

> operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

> >

> > In the last stage of the patient, though digestion stops, the

> respiration continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is

> supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized. Therefore the

> patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of food.

> >

> > After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either due to

> damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat energy.

> This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last stage, the

> oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say hat the

> human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and the body

> becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda (Manastejasi

> tejassati).

> >

> > Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of death, a small

> portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the energetic

> body that goes out of the gross body along with the bundle of

> qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist cannot prepare

> this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past millions of births.

> >

> > at lotus feet of swami

> > surya

> >

> > dan330033 <dan330033@> wrote:

> > The only way to know truth is to be truth, and to be truth

> is to be

> > empty, and to be empty is not to rely on words as containers for

> > awareness/energy.

> >

> > -- Dan

> >

> > (nothing new below)

> >

> > Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000@> wrote:

> > >

> > > If consciousness exists, he/she starts aware of external objects or

> > internal imaginations.

> > >

> > > If you say something more (supreme consciousness as per you)

> > exists beyond consciousness in all human beings, then why a human

> > being dies if food is not taken for long time?

> > >

> > > Have you heard of deaths due to hunger?

> > >

> > > If supreme consciousness above consciousness exists in all human

> > beings, then there can never hunger deaths.

> > >

> > > at lotus feet of swami

> > > surya

> >

> >

> >

> > .

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Be a PS3 game guru.

> > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at

> Games.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert energy,

> > which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the nervous

> > system generates the awareness. The human being looses consciousness

> > (awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

> > >

> > > A part of the heat energy released from digestion of food is used to

> > generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as inert energy

> > only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex: breathing

> > system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These bodily

> > systems require inert energy to operate but do not awareness.

> > >

> > > the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it becomes the

> > inert energy, from which it is generated. And once again, when human

> > being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this inert energy

> > is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system is not

> > operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

> > >

> > > In the last stage of the patient, though digestion stops, the

> > respiration continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is

> > supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized. Therefore the

> > patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of food.

> > >

> > > After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either due to

> > damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat energy.

> > This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last stage, the

> > oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say hat the

> > human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and the body

> > becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda (Manastejasi

> > tejassati).

> > >

> > > Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of death, a small

> > portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the energetic

> > body that goes out of the gross body along with the bundle of

> > qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist cannot prepare

> > this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past millions of births.

> > >

> > > at lotus feet of swami

> > > surya

> > >

> >

> >

> > Awareness is attempting to get a good look at itself.......an

> > altogether difficult undertaking.

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

> Awareness can't attempt anything.

>

> -- D.

>

 

 

 

 

What is awareness again...........I forgot.

 

 

 

 

toombaru

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

>

> >

> > I can see myself in who I am not....

>

> The who I am not, is who I am.

>

 

 

 

I am is the mother of confusion.

 

 

 

toombaru

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert energy,

> > which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the nervous

> > system generates the awareness. The human being looses consciousness

> > (awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

> > >

> > > A part of the heat energy released from digestion of food is used to

> > generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as inert energy

> > only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex: breathing

> > system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These bodily

> > systems require inert energy to operate but do not awareness.

> > >

> > > the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it becomes the

> > inert energy, from which it is generated. And once again, when human

> > being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this inert energy

> > is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system is not

> > operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

> > >

> > > In the last stage of the patient, though digestion stops, the

> > respiration continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is

> > supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized. Therefore the

> > patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of food.

> > >

> > > After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either due to

> > damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat energy.

> > This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last stage, the

> > oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say hat the

> > human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and the body

> > becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda (Manastejasi

> > tejassati).

> > >

> > > Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of death, a small

> > portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the energetic

> > body that goes out of the gross body along with the bundle of

> > qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist cannot prepare

> > this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past millions of births.

> > >

> > > at lotus feet of swami

> > > surya

> > >

> >

> >

> > Awareness is attempting to get a good look at itself.......an

> > altogether difficult undertaking.

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

> Awareness can't attempt anything.

>

> -- D

 

 

awareness IS assaying.

 

it's own imbroglio.

 

no escape...

 

but to die.

 

and die it must.

 

and it will never have been.

 

is now and forever shall be...

 

not.

 

..b bobji baba

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert energy,

> > > which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the nervous

> > > system generates the awareness. The human being looses consciousness

> > > (awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

> > > >

> > > > A part of the heat energy released from digestion of food is

used to

> > > generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as inert energy

> > > only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex: breathing

> > > system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These bodily

> > > systems require inert energy to operate but do not awareness.

> > > >

> > > > the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it becomes the

> > > inert energy, from which it is generated. And once again, when human

> > > being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this inert

energy

> > > is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system is not

> > > operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

> > > >

> > > > In the last stage of the patient, though digestion stops, the

> > > respiration continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is

> > > supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized. Therefore the

> > > patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of food.

> > > >

> > > > After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either due to

> > > damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat energy.

> > > This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last stage, the

> > > oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say hat the

> > > human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and the body

> > > becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda

(Manastejasi

> > > tejassati).

> > > >

> > > > Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of death, a

small

> > > portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the energetic

> > > body that goes out of the gross body along with the bundle of

> > > qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist cannot

prepare

> > > this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past millions of

births.

> > > >

> > > > at lotus feet of swami

> > > > surya

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Awareness is attempting to get a good look at itself.......an

> > > altogether difficult undertaking.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> > Awareness can't attempt anything.

> >

> > -- D.

> >

>

>

>

>

> What is awareness again...........I forgot.

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

 

it's creamy and dreamy.

 

somewhat seamy.. yet seemly.

 

and it walks like a nun...

 

with a gun to the sun.

 

and at this we are done.

 

..b bobji b.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > >

> > > The only way to know truth is to be truth, and to be truth is to be

> > > empty, and to be empty is not to rely on words as containers for

> > > awareness/energy.

> > >

> > > -- Dan

> >

> >

> > Nothing can be empty.

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

> To be empty is to be open.

>

> -- D.

>

 

 

 

 

Empty or open need a separate thingness on which they can be.

 

 

 

toombaru

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > You think that energy and awareness have separate existence.

> >

> > Yet, you couldn't know of energy as energy without being aware.

> >

> > You assume energy to have a separate existence from your being-aware,

> > but that assumption only occurs because you are aware and using that

> > assumption.

> >

> > One question I've found beneficial is this:

>

>

>

>

>

To whom.........or what....... is it beneficial?

>

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

 

why ask if you already are the answer?

 

-- d.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

 

>

> What is awareness again...........I forgot.

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

it is what you can't remember.

 

-- d.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert energy,

> > > which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the nervous

> > > system generates the awareness. The human being looses consciousness

> > > (awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

> > > >

> > > > A part of the heat energy released from digestion of food is

used to

> > > generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as inert energy

> > > only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex: breathing

> > > system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These bodily

> > > systems require inert energy to operate but do not awareness.

> > > >

> > > > the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it becomes the

> > > inert energy, from which it is generated. And once again, when human

> > > being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this inert

energy

> > > is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system is not

> > > operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

> > > >

> > > > In the last stage of the patient, though digestion stops, the

> > > respiration continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is

> > > supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized. Therefore the

> > > patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of food.

> > > >

> > > > After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either due to

> > > damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat energy.

> > > This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last stage, the

> > > oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say hat the

> > > human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and the body

> > > becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda

(Manastejasi

> > > tejassati).

> > > >

> > > > Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of death, a

small

> > > portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the energetic

> > > body that goes out of the gross body along with the bundle of

> > > qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist cannot

prepare

> > > this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past millions of

births.

> > > >

> > > > at lotus feet of swami

> > > > surya

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Awareness is attempting to get a good look at itself.......an

> > > altogether difficult undertaking.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> > Awareness can't attempt anything.

> >

> > -- D

>

>

> awareness IS assaying.

>

> it's own imbroglio.

>

> no escape...

>

> but to die.

>

> and die it must.

>

> and it will never have been.

>

> is now and forever shall be...

>

> not.

>

> .b bobji baba

 

not ... is not.

 

-- d.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > The only way to know truth is to be truth, and to be truth is

to be

> > > > empty, and to be empty is not to rely on words as containers for

> > > > awareness/energy.

> > > >

> > > > -- Dan

> > >

> > >

> > > Nothing can be empty.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> > To be empty is to be open.

> >

> > -- D.

> >

>

>

>

>

> Empty or open need a separate thingness on which they can be.

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

not at all.

 

there is no thingness.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > You think that energy and awareness have separate existence.

> > >

> > > Yet, you couldn't know of energy as energy without being aware.

> > >

> > > You assume energy to have a separate existence from your

being-aware,

> > > but that assumption only occurs because you are aware and using that

> > > assumption.

> > >

> > > One question I've found beneficial is this:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To whom.........or what....... is it beneficial?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

> why ask if you already are the answer?

>

> -- d.

 

 

why answer if you are not?

 

..b b.b.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000@>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert energy,

> > > > which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the nervous

> > > > system generates the awareness. The human being looses

consciousness

> > > > (awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

> > > > >

> > > > > A part of the heat energy released from digestion of food is

> used to

> > > > generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as inert

energy

> > > > only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex:

breathing

> > > > system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These bodily

> > > > systems require inert energy to operate but do not awareness.

> > > > >

> > > > > the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it

becomes the

> > > > inert energy, from which it is generated. And once again, when

human

> > > > being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this inert

> energy

> > > > is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system is not

> > > > operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

> > > > >

> > > > > In the last stage of the patient, though digestion stops, the

> > > > respiration continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is

> > > > supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized.

Therefore the

> > > > patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of food.

> > > > >

> > > > > After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either

due to

> > > > damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat

energy.

> > > > This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last

stage, the

> > > > oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say

hat the

> > > > human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and

the body

> > > > becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda

> (Manastejasi

> > > > tejassati).

> > > > >

> > > > > Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of death, a

> small

> > > > portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the

energetic

> > > > body that goes out of the gross body along with the bundle of

> > > > qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist cannot

> prepare

> > > > this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past millions of

> births.

> > > > >

> > > > > at lotus feet of swami

> > > > > surya

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Awareness is attempting to get a good look at itself.......an

> > > > altogether difficult undertaking.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > > Awareness can't attempt anything.

> > >

> > > -- D

> >

> >

> > awareness IS assaying.

> >

> > it's own imbroglio.

> >

> > no escape...

> >

> > but to die.

> >

> > and die it must.

> >

> > and it will never have been.

> >

> > is now and forever shall be...

> >

> > not.

> >

> > .b bobji baba

>

> not ... is not.

>

> -- d.

 

 

not even that.

 

..b b.b.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The only way to know truth is to be truth, and to be truth is

> to be

> > > > > empty, and to be empty is not to rely on words as containers for

> > > > > awareness/energy.

> > > > >

> > > > > -- Dan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nothing can be empty.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > > To be empty is to be open.

> > >

> > > -- D.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Empty or open need a separate thingness on which they can be.

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

> not at all.

>

> there is no thingness.

 

 

who's talking?

 

..b b.b.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > You think that energy and awareness have separate existence.

> > > >

> > > > Yet, you couldn't know of energy as energy without being aware.

> > > >

> > > > You assume energy to have a separate existence from your

> being-aware,

> > > > but that assumption only occurs because you are aware and

using that

> > > > assumption.

> > > >

> > > > One question I've found beneficial is this:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > To whom.........or what....... is it beneficial?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> >

> > why ask if you already are the answer?

> >

> > -- d.

>

>

> why answer if you are not?

>

> .b b.b.

 

I am not not.

 

-- D.