If all is in consciousness then who other people? - - -

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert

energy,

> > > > > which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the

nervous

> > > > > system generates the awareness. The human being looses

> consciousness

> > > > > (awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A part of the heat energy released from digestion of food is

> > used to

> > > > > generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as inert

> energy

> > > > > only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex:

> breathing

> > > > > system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These

bodily

> > > > > systems require inert energy to operate but do not awareness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it

> becomes the

> > > > > inert energy, from which it is generated. And once again, when

> human

> > > > > being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this inert

> > energy

> > > > > is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system is not

> > > > > operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the last stage of the patient, though digestion stops, the

> > > > > respiration continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is

> > > > > supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized.

> Therefore the

> > > > > patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of food.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either

> due to

> > > > > damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat

> energy.

> > > > > This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last

> stage, the

> > > > > oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say

> hat the

> > > > > human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and

> the body

> > > > > becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda

> > (Manastejasi

> > > > > tejassati).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of death, a

> > small

> > > > > portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the

> energetic

> > > > > body that goes out of the gross body along with the bundle of

> > > > > qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist cannot

> > prepare

> > > > > this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past millions of

> > births.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > at lotus feet of swami

> > > > > > surya

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Awareness is attempting to get a good look at itself.......an

> > > > > altogether difficult undertaking.

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > > Awareness can't attempt anything.

> > > >

> > > > -- D

> > >

> > > awareness IS assaying.

> > >

> > > it's own imbroglio.

> > >

> > > no escape...

> > >

> > > but to die.

> > >

> > > and die it must.

> > >

> > > and it will never have been.

> > >

> > > is now and forever shall be...

> > >

> > > not.

> > >

> > > .b bobji baba

> >

> > not ... is not.

> >

> > -- d.

>

> not even that.

>

> .b b.b.

much more than that ever dreamed of.

d.d.d.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > You think that energy and awareness have separate existence.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yet, you couldn't know of energy as energy without being aware.

> > > > >

> > > > > You assume energy to have a separate existence from your

> > being-aware,

> > > > > but that assumption only occurs because you are aware and

> using that

> > > > > assumption.

> > > > >

> > > > > One question I've found beneficial is this:

> > > >

> > > > To whom.........or what....... is it beneficial?

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > > why ask if you already are the answer?

> > >

> > > -- d.

> >

> > why answer if you are not?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> I am not not.

>

> -- D.

not not what?

..b b.b.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , prakki surya

<dattapr2000@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert

> energy,

> > > > > > which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the

> nervous

> > > > > > system generates the awareness. The human being looses

> > consciousness

> > > > > > (awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A part of the heat energy released from digestion of food is

> > > used to

> > > > > > generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as inert

> > energy

> > > > > > only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex:

> > breathing

> > > > > > system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These

> bodily

> > > > > > systems require inert energy to operate but do not awareness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it

> > becomes the

> > > > > > inert energy, from which it is generated. And once again, when

> > human

> > > > > > being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this inert

> > > energy

> > > > > > is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system

is not

> > > > > > operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In the last stage of the patient, though digestion

stops, the

> > > > > > respiration continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is

> > > > > > supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized.

> > Therefore the

> > > > > > patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of

food.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either

> > due to

> > > > > > damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat

> > energy.

> > > > > > This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last

> > stage, the

> > > > > > oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say

> > hat the

> > > > > > human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and

> > the body

> > > > > > becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda

> > > (Manastejasi

> > > > > > tejassati).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of

death, a

> > > small

> > > > > > portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the

> > energetic

> > > > > > body that goes out of the gross body along with the bundle of

> > > > > > qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist cannot

> > > prepare

> > > > > > this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past millions of

> > > births.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > at lotus feet of swami

> > > > > > > surya

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Awareness is attempting to get a good look at itself.......an

> > > > > > altogether difficult undertaking.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > > Awareness can't attempt anything.

> > > > >

> > > > > -- D

> > > >

> > > > awareness IS assaying.

> > > >

> > > > it's own imbroglio.

> > > >

> > > > no escape...

> > > >

> > > > but to die.

> > > >

> > > > and die it must.

> > > >

> > > > and it will never have been.

> > > >

> > > > is now and forever shall be...

> > > >

> > > > not.

> > > >

> > > > .b bobji baba

> > >

> > > not ... is not.

> > >

> > > -- d.

> >

> > not even that.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> much more than that ever dreamed of.

>

> d.d.d.

there is nothing to dream about and no one to dream.

what is a dream?

..b b.b.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The only way to know truth is to be truth, and to be

truth is

> > > to be

> > > > > > > empty, and to be empty is not to rely on words as

> containers for

> > > > > > > awareness/energy.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -- Dan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nothing can be empty.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > > To be empty is to be open.

> > > > >

> > > > > -- D.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Empty or open need a separate thingness on which they can be.

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > > not at all.

> > >

> > > there is no thingness.

> >

> > who's talking?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> yes.

>

> look who's talking.

who?

..b b.b.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

<dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

<dan330033@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , prakki surya

> <dattapr2000@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The

inert

> > energy,

> > > > > > > which comes from digestion of food, when flows through

the

> > nervous

> > > > > > > system generates the awareness. The human being

looses

> > > consciousness

> > > > > > > (awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A part of the heat energy released from digestion of

food is

> > > > used to

> > > > > > > generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains

as inert

> > > energy

> > > > > > > only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex:

> > > breathing

> > > > > > > system, lungs require energy to expand and contract.

These

> > bodily

> > > > > > > systems require inert energy to operate but do not

awareness.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep

and it

> > > becomes the

> > > > > > > inert energy, from which it is generated. And once

again, when

> > > human

> > > > > > > being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma,

this inert

> > > > energy

> > > > > > > is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous

system

> is not

> > > > > > > operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In the last stage of the patient, though digestion

> stops, the

> > > > > > > respiration continues. Though food is not supplied,

oxygen is

> > > > > > > supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized.

> > > Therefore the

> > > > > > > patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of

> food.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning

either

> > > due to

> > > > > > > damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of

the heat

> > > energy.

> > > > > > > This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last

> > > stage, the

> > > > > > > oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced.

We say

> > > hat the

> > > > > > > human being is dead due to absence of any trace of

heat and

> > > the body

> > > > > > > becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda

> > > > (Manastejasi

> > > > > > > tejassati).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of

> death, a

> > > > small

> > > > > > > portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the

> > > energetic

> > > > > > > body that goes out of the gross body along with the

bundle of

> > > > > > > qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist

cannot

> > > > prepare

> > > > > > > this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past

millions of

> > > > births.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > at lotus feet of swami

> > > > > > > > surya

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Awareness is attempting to get a good look at

itself.......an

> > > > > > > altogether difficult undertaking.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Awareness can't attempt anything.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -- D

> > > > >

> > > > > awareness IS assaying.

> > > > >

> > > > > it's own imbroglio.

> > > > >

> > > > > no escape...

> > > > >

> > > > > but to die.

> > > > >

> > > > > and die it must.

> > > > >

> > > > > and it will never have been.

> > > > >

> > > > > is now and forever shall be...

> > > > >

> > > > > not.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b bobji baba

> > > >

> > > > not ... is not.

> > > >

> > > > -- d.

> > >

> > > not even that.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > much more than that ever dreamed of.

> >

> > d.d.d.

>

> there is nothing to dream about and no one to dream.

>

> what is a dream?

>

> .b b.b.

>

A dream is a misplaced dot to ponder about.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , prakki surya

> <dattapr2000@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert

> > energy,

> > > > > > > which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the

> > nervous

> > > > > > > system generates the awareness. The human being looses

> > > consciousness

> > > > > > > (awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A part of the heat energy released from digestion of

food is

> > > > used to

> > > > > > > generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as

inert

> > > energy

> > > > > > > only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex:

> > > breathing

> > > > > > > system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These

> > bodily

> > > > > > > systems require inert energy to operate but do not

awareness.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it

> > > becomes the

> > > > > > > inert energy, from which it is generated. And once

again, when

> > > human

> > > > > > > being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this

inert

> > > > energy

> > > > > > > is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system

> is not

> > > > > > > operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In the last stage of the patient, though digestion

> stops, the

> > > > > > > respiration continues. Though food is not supplied,

oxygen is

> > > > > > > supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized.

> > > Therefore the

> > > > > > > patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of

> food.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning

either

> > > due to

> > > > > > > damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat

> > > energy.

> > > > > > > This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last

> > > stage, the

> > > > > > > oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say

> > > hat the

> > > > > > > human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and

> > > the body

> > > > > > > becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda

> > > > (Manastejasi

> > > > > > > tejassati).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of

> death, a

> > > > small

> > > > > > > portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the

> > > energetic

> > > > > > > body that goes out of the gross body along with the

bundle of

> > > > > > > qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist

cannot

> > > > prepare

> > > > > > > this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past

millions of

> > > > births.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > at lotus feet of swami

> > > > > > > > surya

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Awareness is attempting to get a good look at

itself.......an

> > > > > > > altogether difficult undertaking.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Awareness can't attempt anything.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -- D

> > > > >

> > > > > awareness IS assaying.

> > > > >

> > > > > it's own imbroglio.

> > > > >

> > > > > no escape...

> > > > >

> > > > > but to die.

> > > > >

> > > > > and die it must.

> > > > >

> > > > > and it will never have been.

> > > > >

> > > > > is now and forever shall be...

> > > > >

> > > > > not.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b bobji baba

> > > >

> > > > not ... is not.

> > > >

> > > > -- d.

> > >

> > > not even that.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > much more than that ever dreamed of.

> >

> > d.d.d.

>

> there is nothing to dream about and no one to dream.

>

> what is a dream?

>

> .b b.b.

the meaning of your words ...

d.d.d.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The only way to know truth is to be truth, and to be

> truth is

> > > > to be

> > > > > > > > empty, and to be empty is not to rely on words as

> > containers for

> > > > > > > > awareness/energy.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -- Dan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nothing can be empty.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To be empty is to be open.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -- D.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Empty or open need a separate thingness on which they can be.

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > > not at all.

> > > >

> > > > there is no thingness.

> > >

> > > who's talking?

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > yes.

> >

> > look who's talking.

>

> who?

>

> .b b.b.

yes.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> <lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , prakki surya

> > <dattapr2000@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The inert

> > > energy,

> > > > > > > > which comes from digestion of food, when flows through the

> > > nervous

> > > > > > > > system generates the awareness. The human being looses

> > > > consciousness

> > > > > > > > (awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A part of the heat energy released from digestion of

> food is

> > > > > used to

> > > > > > > > generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as

> inert

> > > > energy

> > > > > > > > only and is utilised to operate other bodily systems. Ex:

> > > > breathing

> > > > > > > > system, lungs require energy to expand and contract. These

> > > bodily

> > > > > > > > systems require inert energy to operate but do not

> awareness.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it

> > > > becomes the

> > > > > > > > inert energy, from which it is generated. And once

> again, when

> > > > human

> > > > > > > > being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this

> inert

> > > > > energy

> > > > > > > > is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system

> > is not

> > > > > > > > operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In the last stage of the patient, though digestion

> > stops, the

> > > > > > > > respiration continues. Though food is not supplied,

> oxygen is

> > > > > > > > supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized.

> > > > Therefore the

> > > > > > > > patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of

> > food.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning

> either

> > > > due to

> > > > > > > > damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of

the heat

> > > > energy.

> > > > > > > > This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last

> > > > stage, the

> > > > > > > > oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced.

We say

> > > > hat the

> > > > > > > > human being is dead due to absence of any trace of

heat and

> > > > the body

> > > > > > > > becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda

> > > > > (Manastejasi

> > > > > > > > tejassati).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of

> > death, a

> > > > > small

> > > > > > > > portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the

> > > > energetic

> > > > > > > > body that goes out of the gross body along with the

> bundle of

> > > > > > > > qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist

> cannot

> > > > > prepare

> > > > > > > > this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past

> millions of

> > > > > births.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > at lotus feet of swami

> > > > > > > > > surya

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Awareness is attempting to get a good look at

> itself.......an

> > > > > > > > altogether difficult undertaking.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Awareness can't attempt anything.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -- D

> > > > > >

> > > > > > awareness IS assaying.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it's own imbroglio.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > no escape...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > but to die.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and die it must.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and it will never have been.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > is now and forever shall be...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > not.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b bobji baba

> > > > >

> > > > > not ... is not.

> > > > >

> > > > > -- d.

> > > >

> > > > not even that.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > much more than that ever dreamed of.

> > >

> > > d.d.d.

> >

> > there is nothing to dream about and no one to dream.

> >

> > what is a dream?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> the meaning of your words ...

>

> d.d.d.

you're dreaming.

..b b.b.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You think that energy and awareness have separate existence.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yet, you couldn't know of energy as energy without being

> aware.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You assume energy to have a separate existence from your

> > > > being-aware,

> > > > > > > but that assumption only occurs because you are aware and

> > > using that

> > > > > > > assumption.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One question I've found beneficial is this:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To whom.........or what....... is it beneficial?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > > why ask if you already are the answer?

> > > > >

> > > > > -- d.

> > > >

> > > > why answer if you are not?

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > I am not not.

> > >

> > > -- D.

> >

> > not not what?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> Not?

>

> I don't need no stinkin' not...

what that is not..

can stink?

your answer does but your answer is.

and who is this 'i'?

..b b.b.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> <lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The only way to know truth is to be truth, and to be

> > truth is

> > > > > to be

> > > > > > > > > empty, and to be empty is not to rely on words as

> > > containers for

> > > > > > > > > awareness/energy.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > -- Dan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nothing can be empty.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To be empty is to be open.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -- D.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Empty or open need a separate thingness on which they can be.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > > not at all.

> > > > >

> > > > > there is no thingness.

> > > >

> > > > who's talking?

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > yes.

> > >

> > > look who's talking.

> >

> > who?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> yes.

no!

..b b.b.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

<dan330033@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > <lastrain@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , prakki surya

> > > <dattapr2000@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Awareness is Soul or Atman or pure awareness. The

inert

> > > > energy,

> > > > > > > > > which comes from digestion of food, when flows

through the

> > > > nervous

> > > > > > > > > system generates the awareness. The human being looses

> > > > > consciousness

> > > > > > > > > (awareness) when food is not taken for longer time.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > A part of the heat energy released from digestion of

> > food is

> > > > > > used to

> > > > > > > > > generate awareness in nervous system. A part remains as

> > inert

> > > > > energy

> > > > > > > > > only and is utilised to operate other bodily

systems. Ex:

> > > > > breathing

> > > > > > > > > system, lungs require energy to expand and contract.

These

> > > > bodily

> > > > > > > > > systems require inert energy to operate but do not

> > awareness.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the awareness disappears in coma and deep sleep and it

> > > > > becomes the

> > > > > > > > > inert energy, from which it is generated. And once

> > again, when

> > > > > human

> > > > > > > > > being wakes up in the morning or comes out of coma, this

> > inert

> > > > > > energy

> > > > > > > > > is converted to awareness. in deep sleep, nervous system

> > > is not

> > > > > > > > > operational and hence, awareness does not generate.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In the last stage of the patient, though digestion

> > > stops, the

> > > > > > > > > respiration continues. Though food is not supplied,

> > oxygen is

> > > > > > > > > supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized.

> > > > > Therefore the

> > > > > > > > > patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of

> > > food.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning

> > either

> > > > > due to

> > > > > > > > > damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of

> the heat

> > > > > energy.

> > > > > > > > > This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the

last

> > > > > stage, the

> > > > > > > > > oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced.

> We say

> > > > > hat the

> > > > > > > > > human being is dead due to absence of any trace of

> heat and

> > > > > the body

> > > > > > > > > becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda

> > > > > > (Manastejasi

> > > > > > > > > tejassati).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of

> > > death, a

> > > > > > small

> > > > > > > > > portion of the heat energy is used in the formation

of the

> > > > > energetic

> > > > > > > > > body that goes out of the gross body along with the

> > bundle of

> > > > > > > > > qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist

> > cannot

> > > > > > prepare

> > > > > > > > > this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past

> > millions of

> > > > > > births.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > at lotus feet of swami

> > > > > > > > > > surya

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Awareness is attempting to get a good look at

> > itself.......an

> > > > > > > > > altogether difficult undertaking.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Awareness can't attempt anything.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -- D

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > awareness IS assaying.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > it's own imbroglio.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > no escape...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > but to die.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and die it must.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and it will never have been.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > is now and forever shall be...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > not.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b bobji baba

> > > > > >

> > > > > > not ... is not.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -- d.

> > > > >

> > > > > not even that.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > much more than that ever dreamed of.

> > > >

> > > > d.d.d.

> > >

> > > there is nothing to dream about and no one to dream.

> > >

> > > what is a dream?

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > the meaning of your words ...

> >

> > d.d.d.

>

> you're dreaming.

>

> .b b.b.

you?

I don't need no stinkin' you ...

d.d.d.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

<dan330033@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You think that energy and awareness have separate

existence.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yet, you couldn't know of energy as energy without being

> > aware.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You assume energy to have a separate existence from your

> > > > > being-aware,

> > > > > > > > but that assumption only occurs because you are aware and

> > > > using that

> > > > > > > > assumption.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One question I've found beneficial is this:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To whom.........or what....... is it beneficial?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > >

> > > > > > why ask if you already are the answer?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -- d.

> > > > >

> > > > > why answer if you are not?

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > I am not not.

> > > >

> > > > -- D.

> > >

> > > not not what?

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > Not?

> >

> > I don't need no stinkin' not...

>

> what that is not..

>

> can stink?

>

> your answer does but your answer is.

>

> and who is this 'i'?

>

> .b b.b.

duh.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

<dan330033@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > <lastrain@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The only way to know truth is to be truth, and to be

> > > truth is

> > > > > > to be

> > > > > > > > > > empty, and to be empty is not to rely on words as

> > > > containers for

> > > > > > > > > > awareness/energy.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -- Dan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nothing can be empty.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To be empty is to be open.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -- D.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Empty or open need a separate thingness on which they

can be.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > >

> > > > > > not at all.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > there is no thingness.

> > > > >

> > > > > who's talking?

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > yes.

> > > >

> > > > look who's talking.

> > >

> > > who?

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > yes.

>

> no!

>

> .b b.b.

burp!

April 4, 2007

> > > > what is a dream?

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > the meaning of your words ...

> > >

> > > d.d.d.

> >

> > you're dreaming.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> you?

>

> I don't need no stinkin' you ...

>

> d.d.d.

there is no such thing 'i'.

but 'you' have great 'need'

and it stinks from what 'you' say.

so sorry chum.

..b b.b.

April 4, 2007

--

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > yes.

> >

> > no!

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> burp!

dumb!

..b b.b.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> <lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> <dan330033@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You think that energy and awareness have separate

> existence.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Yet, you couldn't know of energy as energy without being

> > > aware.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You assume energy to have a separate existence from your

> > > > > > being-aware,

> > > > > > > > > but that assumption only occurs because you are

aware and

> > > > > using that

> > > > > > > > > assumption.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One question I've found beneficial is this:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To whom.........or what....... is it beneficial?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > why ask if you already are the answer?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -- d.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > why answer if you are not?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am not not.

> > > > >

> > > > > -- D.

> > > >

> > > > not not what?

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Not?

> > >

> > > I don't need no stinkin' not...

> >

> > what that is not..

> >

> > can stink?

> >

> > your answer does but your answer is.

> >

> > and who is this 'i'?

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> duh.

figures.

..b b.b.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> > > > > what is a dream?

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > the meaning of your words ...

> > > >

> > > > d.d.d.

> > >

> > > you're dreaming.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > you?

> >

> > I don't need no stinkin' you ...

> >

> > d.d.d.

>

> there is no such thing 'i'.

>

> but 'you' have great 'need'

>

> and it stinks from what 'you' say.

>

> so sorry chum.

>

> .b b.b.

'chum' is for 'sharks.'

try 'nose plugs,' less stink from 'chum' that way.

d.d.d.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> --

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > yes.

> > >

> > > no!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > burp!

>

> dumb!

>

> .b b.b.

chum!

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

<dan330033@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > <lastrain@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > <dan330033@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You think that energy and awareness have separate

> > existence.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Yet, you couldn't know of energy as energy without

being

> > > > aware.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You assume energy to have a separate existence

from your

> > > > > > > being-aware,

> > > > > > > > > > but that assumption only occurs because you are

> aware and

> > > > > > using that

> > > > > > > > > > assumption.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > One question I've found beneficial is this:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > To whom.........or what....... is it beneficial?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > why ask if you already are the answer?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -- d.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > why answer if you are not?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am not not.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -- D.

> > > > >

> > > > > not not what?

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > Not?

> > > >

> > > > I don't need no stinkin' not...

> > >

> > > what that is not..

> > >

> > > can stink?

> > >

> > > your answer does but your answer is.

> > >

> > > and who is this 'i'?

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > duh.

>

> figures.

>

> .b b.b.

seeing.

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > > > > > what is a dream?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > the meaning of your words ...

> > > > >

> > > > > d.d.d.

> > > >

> > > > you're dreaming.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > you?

> > >

> > > I don't need no stinkin' you ...

> > >

> > > d.d.d.

> >

> > there is no such thing 'i'.

> >

> > but 'you' have great 'need'

> >

> > and it stinks from what 'you' say.

> >

> > so sorry chum.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> 'chum' is for 'sharks.'

>

> try 'nose plugs,' less stink from 'chum' that way.

>

> d.d.d.

unless the nose plugs stink.

unless one can smell.

a niff is not.

less is more..

more or less.

..b b.b.

btw...your first period dot is in the wrong place .d d.d. !

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> <dan330033@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > > <lastrain@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > > <dan330033@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You think that energy and awareness have separate

> > > existence.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Yet, you couldn't know of energy as energy without

> being

> > > > > aware.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You assume energy to have a separate existence

> from your

> > > > > > > > being-aware,

> > > > > > > > > > > but that assumption only occurs because you are

> > aware and

> > > > > > > using that

> > > > > > > > > > > assumption.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > One question I've found beneficial is this:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > To whom.........or what....... is it beneficial?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > why ask if you already are the answer?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > -- d.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > why answer if you are not?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am not not.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -- D.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > not not what?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > Not?

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't need no stinkin' not...

> > > >

> > > > what that is not..

> > > >

> > > > can stink?

> > > >

> > > > your answer does but your answer is.

> > > >

> > > > and who is this 'i'?

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > duh.

> >

> > figures.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> seeing.

the witness?

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > > > > what is a dream?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the meaning of your words ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > d.d.d.

> > > > >

> > > > > you're dreaming.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > you?

> > > >

> > > > I don't need no stinkin' you ...

> > > >

> > > > d.d.d.

> > >

> > > there is no such thing 'i'.

> > >

> > > but 'you' have great 'need'

> > >

> > > and it stinks from what 'you' say.

> > >

> > > so sorry chum.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > 'chum' is for 'sharks.'

> >

> > try 'nose plugs,' less stink from 'chum' that way.

> >

> > d.d.d.

>

> unless the nose plugs stink.

>

> unless one can smell.

>

> a niff is not.

>

> less is more..

>

> more or less.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> btw...your first period dot is in the wrong place .d d.d. !

i don't think so.

if you turn them upside down, they're fine.

d,d,d,

April 4, 2007

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

<dan330033@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > > <Roberibus111@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > <dan330033@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> > > > <lastrain@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > > > <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > You think that energy and awareness have separate

> > > > existence.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, you couldn't know of energy as energy without

> > being

> > > > > > aware.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > You assume energy to have a separate existence

> > from your

> > > > > > > > > being-aware,

> > > > > > > > > > > > but that assumption only occurs because you are

> > > aware and

> > > > > > > > using that

> > > > > > > > > > > > assumption.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > One question I've found beneficial is this:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > To whom.........or what....... is it beneficial?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > why ask if you already are the answer?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -- d.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > why answer if you are not?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am not not.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -- D.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > not not what?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Not?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't need no stinkin' not...

> > > > >

> > > > > what that is not..

> > > > >

> > > > > can stink?

> > > > >

> > > > > your answer does but your answer is.

> > > > >

> > > > > and who is this 'i'?

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > duh.

> > >

> > > figures.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > seeing.

>

> the witness?

the witness is what is witnessed.

witless.

mindless.

April 5, 2007

I think things exist outside my consciousness, Ok? Included BOba and

Dan123. They in consciousness also, but only as thought. But I know

that this only thought, and I inffer that out there are beings like

me. I can ring someone. I can write message and get reply. My cat

looking at me when she want food.

They are every inferred, but if I seeing rose, there must be form in

universe

that cause rose to appear in mind? OKey, so it is not a rose, but rose

is name and form mind give. In universe is arrangement.

I also very tired try to do this. Just want read Ultimate Medicine

till eyes tired then sleep. I know Nis say there is nothing of to do,

but he alsio sya there is knowledge and we must be convinced of

knowledge. I want only correct knowledge, why that so hard? Only

simple questions. What is consciousness? What is awareness? Is

awareness energy? Like light shining in store room full of thi`ngs?

The I say that things with the light on them , that is consciousness.

A light is pure form of consciousnees that we call awareness?

Eeach other person is mind like different room full with differnt

things?

Is this Correct?

April 5, 2007

If put hand in sea, fish are coming looking then swimming away. I am a

thing outside their consciousneess, but they do not know who I am,

only white lump that mean danger.

If all is in consciousness then who other people? - - -

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