If all is in consciousness then who other people? - - -

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Nisargadatta , " tigerlily_du_lac "

<tigerlily_du_lac wrote:

>

> I think things exist outside my consciousness, Ok? Included BOba and

> Dan123. They in consciousness also, but only as thought. But I know

> that this only thought, and I inffer that out there are beings like

> me. I can ring someone. I can write message and get reply. My cat

> looking at me when she want food.

>

> They are every inferred, but if I seeing rose, there must be form in

> universe

> that cause rose to appear in mind? OKey, so it is not a rose, but rose

> is name and form mind give. In universe is arrangement.

>

> I also very tired try to do this. Just want read Ultimate Medicine

> till eyes tired then sleep. I know Nis say there is nothing of to do,

> but he alsio sya there is knowledge and we must be convinced of

> knowledge. I want only correct knowledge, why that so hard? Only

> simple questions. What is consciousness? What is awareness? Is

> awareness energy? Like light shining in store room full of thi`ngs?

> The I say that things with the light on them , that is consciousness.

> A light is pure form of consciousnees that we call awareness?

>

> Eeach other person is mind like different room full with differnt

> things?

>

> Is this Correct?

>

 

 

There may be something outside of you.......but you can never know it.

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " tigerlily_du_lac "

<tigerlily_du_lac wrote:

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> If put hand in sea, fish are coming looking then swimming away. I am a

> thing outside their consciousneess, but they do not know who I am,

> only white lump that mean danger.

>

 

 

There are big things in there that can eat you.

 

 

 

 

toombaru

[Guest guest]

Thought ends.

 

Whatever thought says about itself, its origins, what its universe of

perception is -- doesn't matter when thought ends.

 

Thought ends now.

 

The inability to be aware of thought ending now could be called

" addiction to thought. "

 

This addiction may involve anything from sensations of which thought

is aware (consciously or unconsciously) to relationships, money, love,

spirituality, power. Any and all of it is thought addiction, fueled

by emotional complexes and identifications.

 

Thought ends now.

 

Being aware of this is dying to the past, to the imagined, to images,

to word meanings, to religions, to addictions.

 

Thought ends now.

 

Only the addictive process makes it seems as if thought isn't ending now.

 

The addictive process is ignorance in action, the me, the world

structured around thought.

 

No one else can tell you how to end what already is always ending.

 

No one else can confront ignore-ance for you.

 

One is aware of this only because it is so, only because this truth is

so now.

 

It isn't manufactured, isn't a product of thought, isn't a matter of

someone else saying that one is correct.

 

The " someone else " dies along with " self " when thought dies, which is now.

 

-- D.

 

(nothing new below)

 

Nisargadatta , " tigerlily_du_lac "

<tigerlily_du_lac wrote:

>

> I think things exist outside my consciousness, Ok? Included BOba and

> Dan123. They in consciousness also, but only as thought. But I know

> that this only thought, and I inffer that out there are beings like

> me. I can ring someone. I can write message and get reply. My cat

> looking at me when she want food.

>

> They are every inferred, but if I seeing rose, there must be form in

> universe

> that cause rose to appear in mind? OKey, so it is not a rose, but rose

> is name and form mind give. In universe is arrangement.

>

> I also very tired try to do this. Just want read Ultimate Medicine

> till eyes tired then sleep. I know Nis say there is nothing of to do,

> but he alsio sya there is knowledge and we must be convinced of

> knowledge. I want only correct knowledge, why that so hard? Only

> simple questions. What is consciousness? What is awareness? Is

> awareness energy? Like light shining in store room full of thi`ngs?

> The I say that things with the light on them , that is consciousness.

> A light is pure form of consciousnees that we call awareness?

>

> Eeach other person is mind like different room full with differnt

> things?

>

> Is this Correct?

>

[Guest guest]

> There are big things in there that can eat you.

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

Exactly and then I am white lumpt that mean food!!!!

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Pure Awareness (Soul) requires the existence of two items. One is the inert

energy that is obtained from the digestion of food (Annat Purushah- Veda). The

second is nervous system, which alone can convert this inert energy into

awareness on functioning. Thus, awareness is dependent on these two items but

God is independent and does not depend on the requirement of any other item.

 

The Scholars have misunderstood that God has awareness because God wished to

create this universe. Since God wished God must be awareness. This logic applies

only to the items of creation and not to the Creator who is beyond creation. The

unimaginable God can wish even without being the awareness. He is above the laws

of Creation. Veda says ‘Apanipaado Javano Graheeta…), which means that He can

run without legs and He can catch without hands. Since God runs you say that God

must have legs based on the natural laws. But the super natural God does not

require legs to run. Similarly He can wish to create the world without Himself

being the awareness.

 

If this is understood the Superself is just beyond your imagination. The

Superself enters into one of the items of the creation to give its experience to

you. If the medium is human form, it will be most convenient for the super self

to preach you and receive your love and service directly. The Superself present

in the human form is Sadguru who will lead you from the gross body and subtle

body to the self and then finally to the super self, which is none-else than

Himself. Therefore, identifying and catching the feet of Sadguru is most

important.

 

In fact the Superself or God is unimaginable whereas the self or pure

awareness is imaginable. Therefore, even awareness cannot be the common point in

Superself and self. How can you say the unimaginable God to possess the

awareness? The awareness or life energy is imaginable item of the creation.

 

The disciples of Shankara, who spent all their life with Him (Shankara who

is lord) were not realized Godhead, can a normal human being think of realizing

that? Even greatest devotees (like Gopikas) are also not Lord and we worship

Lord Krishna but not Gopikas.

 

 

at lotus feet of swami

surya

 

 

 

Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

Check outnew cars at Autos.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000

wrote:

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> Pure Awareness (Soul) requires the existence of two items. One is

the inert energy that is obtained from the digestion of food (Annat

Purushah- Veda). The second is nervous system, which alone can

convert this inert energy into awareness on functioning. Thus,

awareness is dependent on these two items but God is independent and

does not depend on the requirement of any other item.

>

> The Scholars have misunderstood that God has awareness because

God wished to create this universe. Since God wished God must be

awareness. This logic applies only to the items of creation and not

to the Creator who is beyond creation. The unimaginable God can wish

even without being the awareness. He is above the laws of Creation.

Veda says `Apanipaado Javano Graheeta…), which means that He can run

without legs and He can catch without hands. Since God runs you say

that God must have legs based on the natural laws. But the super

natural God does not require legs to run. Similarly He can wish to

create the world without Himself being the awareness.

>

> If this is understood the Superself is just beyond your

imagination. The Superself enters into one of the items of the

creation to give its experience to you. If the medium is human form,

it will be most convenient for the super self to preach you and

receive your love and service directly. The Superself present in the

human form is Sadguru who will lead you from the gross body and

subtle body to the self and then finally to the super self, which is

none-else than Himself. Therefore, identifying and catching the feet

of Sadguru is most important.

>

> In fact the Superself or God is unimaginable whereas the self or

pure awareness is imaginable. Therefore, even awareness cannot be

the common point in Superself and self. How can you say the

unimaginable God to possess the awareness? The awareness or life

energy is imaginable item of the creation.

>

> The disciples of Shankara, who spent all their life with Him

(Shankara who is lord) were not realized Godhead, can a normal human

being think of realizing that? Even greatest devotees (like Gopikas)

are also not Lord and we worship Lord Krishna but not Gopikas.

>

>

> at lotus feet of swami

> surya

>

>

>

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check outnew cars at Autos.

>

>