Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 .... Therefore, what has appeared is merely a kind of reflection of that basic ground, call it Consciousness-at-rest, God, or whatever. Seeing the oneness, not only in the manifestation but the oneness between the manifest and the unmanifest, is all that is really meant by enlightenment. Once the individual thinks in terms of his individuality, forgetting this oneness, not only between the manifest and the unmanifest, but the manifestation as a whole, then he begins to think in terms of personal security. Once he begins to think in terms of personal security, he creates any number of problems for himself. So, at that level, the first step in the understanding of the individual is the fact that there can be no such thing as security for the individual, that movement and change are the very basis of life and living. Therefore, in seeking security, he is seeking something which just doesn't exist. That understanding is the beginning of understanding life, and through the understanding of life, to go back into impersonality. ... Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar Consciousness Speaks (Ramesh S Balsekar) published by Advaita Press PO Box 3479 Redondo Beach CA 90277 USA www.advaita.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville wrote: > > ... Therefore, what has appeared is merely a kind of reflection of that basic ground, call it Consciousness-at-rest, God, or whatever. Seeing the oneness, not only in the manifestation but the oneness between the manifest and the unmanifest, is all that is really meant by enlightenment. Once the individual thinks in terms of his individuality, forgetting this oneness, not only between the manifest and the unmanifest, but the manifestation as a whole, then he begins to think in terms of personal security. Once he begins to think in terms of personal security, he creates any number of problems for himself. So, at that level, the first step in the understanding of the individual is the fact that there can be no such thing as security for the individual, that movement and change are the very basis of life and living. Therefore, in seeking security, he is seeking something which just doesn't exist. That understanding is the beginning of understanding life, and through the understanding of life, to go back into impersonality. ... > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar If what he says is true....and I believe it is......it would also have to pertain to the one who believes that he understands what Ramesh says. When the understanding is applied to the one who understands.......the most amazing thing happens: Common Sense is awakened and the understanding is given to he who already understands and you has what's 'known' at Tim Horton's in Canada as a Double-Double. and everyone here knows what that means. all things creamy and sweet, all things impersonal, are swallowed in one single potation of the 'hot brew' and heaven is earth and thy cup shall never be empty again. for both cup and imbiber are GONE............. a canadian sunset. ..b bobji baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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