How did Ramana teach: 'Self is Happiness'?

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" adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote:

> Teacher has the real power. A teacher

> acts as LIVING EXAMPLE and makes the

> 'Self Evident' by his Presence - by

> being the embodiment of that teaching.

 

 

S >>I dunno. I just think that it all comes down to what we do and

how we keep our own minds, moment to moment. I can only speculate

about any

teacher's state; my own thoughts and actions in this moment seem like

the real, alive thing.

 

 

 

How does Ramana teach these:

 

- Self is Happiness

 

- Self is bliss ???

 

 

It is my experience and observation

that if Ramana himself was very

pathetic and miserable and he looked

pathetic and miserable; very few people

would be inspired to ask him about the

" source of happiness " ! Looking

miserable and pathetic himself, even If

he did say about the 'secret of

happiness'; not many would have

believed him because, lacking happiness

himself, his presence would have had no

Power!

 

 

On the contrary,

if Ramana was indeed very peaceful, blissful, happy,

people would be naturally inspired to learn from him

even without Ramana having to utter a

word. They would be attracted towards him and

inspired to be like him by his Powerful Presence!

 

On realizing his peaceful presence,

visitors would be interested in asking him

the secret of peace. He would inspire people just by

his presence, just by his way of being

and when he chose to speak; his words

will be backed by the Power of His

Presence. He will act like the Living

Proof of the teaching!

 

 

 

S>>If a teacher says something that I like or

find interesting, then I'll try it out for myself, see if I can make

it my own, watch what happens and let that be my teacher.

 

 

Again, it is my experience and

observation that people just don't do

something, anything simply because

somebody told them to. Only those who

totally lack discretion might attempt

to do such thing. In all other cases,

people are inspired to try and experiment,

somebody's words only if these words

are backed by the power of his Being!

 

 

When a Bill Gates talks about

running a successful organization,

a Warren Buffet talks about stock

investing, a Robert Kiosaki talks about

real estate investing, a Larry King

talks about debate, a Gandhi talks

about non violence - these words have

great Power and they naturally inspire

many people to try, experiment, learn,

emulate. Even when these people don't

speak, people try to learn from them by

observing and studying their way of

being, thinking, talking, working,

investing, communicating.

 

 

On the contrary, very few people are

inspired to simply try and experiment

anything that comes from a person who

lack Power i.e. whose words are not

backed by his Being!

 

 

A > Without such Living Example, words by

> themselves are simply dead and

> ineffective!

 

 

 

S >If I'm lost in the woods in the dark, and someone comes by with a

flashlight, then I'll make use of that light, without worrying so

much about the attainment of whoever is holding it.

 

 

Because, you ALREADY know the power and

use of a flashlight! Because, you

ALREADY know that a flashlight can

dispel darkness and you already know

that it can help you find your way. Having

known that before, you don't need anybody

to teach you that again!

 

 

 

>>So Ramana said to inquire " What am I? " and I tried that for

myself, and was stunned by

what happened.

 

 

Sure, and, why were you compelled to

try and experiment with what Ramana had

said???

 

If you are like many normal people,

you were inspired to believe, trust,

try and experiment by what Ramana said

because his words had Power! They had

power of his reputation, reputation

that was built because of the Presence,

the way of being that he had!

 

 

>>Whatever that dead Indian was or wasn't an example or embodiment

of isn't the main thing for me.

 

Or, it just might be. . . though,

you may not think about it that much.

 

 

>>Big big thanks for visiting my website and for posting your

comments here!

 

 

No problem, Stuart! You deserve it.

Thanks for your response.

 

Regards,

Arvind

 

 

Stuart

http://home.comcast.net/~sresnick2/socalled.htm

 

 

 

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PS: people like Wayne Liquorman have

made terms dead 'Indians' quite popular

for Ramana, Niz and now many use it

somewhat unconsciously without paying

any real attention to what kind of

message it can potentially convey! To

get the picture, imagine calling

Einstein, a dead Jew or Martin Luther

King, a dead black man! Would you like

to do that? I think doing that will be

unnecessary and stupid. To qualify

Einstein with 'dead' and 'Jew' is

unnecessary and it is 'insulting'!