Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Namaste, Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of the killer. I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were talking about the 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was reporting 150 civilians killed in Irak. This again points out our Egos and Western opinion that some lives are more important than others. The thousands of children that die of starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then there is Darfur and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. There always seem something tragically selfish about it all, specific mourning of some kind...........Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Namaste, > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of the killer. > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were talking about the > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was reporting 150 > civilians killed in Irak. > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion that some lives are > more important than others. The thousands of children that die of > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then there is Darfur > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > There always seem something tragically selfish about it all, specific > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of the killer. > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were talking about the > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was reporting 150 > > civilians killed in Irak. > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion that some lives are > > more important than others. The thousands of children that die of > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then there is Darfur > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about it all, specific > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > toombaru > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and prejudice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of the killer. > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were talking about the > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was reporting 150 > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion that some lives are > > > more important than others. The thousands of children that die of > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then there is Darfur > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about it all, specific > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > toombaru > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and prejudice? no...holocaust deniers just think this way. screwy or what? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of the killer. > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were talking about the > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was reporting 150 > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion that some lives are > > > more important than others. The thousands of children that die of > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then there is Darfur > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about it all, specific > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > toombaru > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and prejudice? > Mind is programmed to see difference. The mechanism's survival quotient increases with increased discrimination. Variance of skin color or other physical traits that differ from one's own tribe are an indicator of threat. Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million years.....our lives depended on it. They still do. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of the killer. > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were talking about the > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was reporting 150 > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion that some > lives are > > > > more important than others. The thousands of children that die of > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then there is > Darfur > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about it all, > specific > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and prejudice? > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with increased discrimination. > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that differ from one's > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > years.....our lives depended on it. > > They still do. > > > > toombaru > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes frères et mes soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving beyond that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle pieces of brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason than that is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or otherwise. Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. Never mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and addressed in their valuation of the future*. Anna (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of the > killer. > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were talking > about the > > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was reporting > 150 > > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion that some > > lives are > > > > > more important than others. The thousands of children that > die of > > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then there is > > Darfur > > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about it all, > > specific > > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and prejudice? > > > > > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with increased > discrimination. > > > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that differ from > one's > > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > > years.....our lives depended on it. > > > > They still do. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes frères et mes > soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving beyond > that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle pieces of > brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason than that > is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or otherwise. > > Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. Never > mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and addressed in > their valuation of the future*. > > Anna > > (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) > This morning.....on the news....men in saffron robes..duking it out over a perceived wrong....... toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of the > > killer. > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were talking > > about the > > > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was reporting > > 150 > > > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion that some > > > lives are > > > > > > more important than others. The thousands of children that > > die of > > > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then there is > > > Darfur > > > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about it all, > > > specific > > > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and prejudice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > > > > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with increased > > discrimination. > > > > > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that differ from > > one's > > > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > > > > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > > > years.....our lives depended on it. > > > > > > They still do. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes frères et mes > > soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving beyond > > that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle pieces of > > brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason than that > > is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or otherwise. > > > > Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. Never > > mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and addressed in > > their valuation of the future*. > > > > Anna > > > > (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) > > > > > > This morning.....on the news....men in saffron robes..duking it out > over a perceived wrong....... > > > > > toombaru > 'Tis sad indeed, Toomie. It's here there everywhere and nowhere but in the mind that is inconsolably sadly resolutely and thoroughly mis-taken, hijacked and bushwacked by the senses coupounded and fractured, dis-located by inconsequential consequences presently present in the ameliorated annotated highly abject objective subject unexamined unattended in the al-to-gether, re-hearsed though un-researched, mis-apprehened in futile denial, caught empty-handed, without one iota of a clue as to who's who. A thoroughly modern dilemma. But there's hope in the scope of a the trial of the century: the 100th monkey looks in the mirror scratches his/her head whilst a song is playing overhead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXci77nT-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > <aoclery@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of the > > > killer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were talking > > > about the > > > > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was > reporting > > > 150 > > > > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion that > some > > > > lives are > > > > > > > more important than others. The thousands of children > that > > > die of > > > > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then > there is > > > > Darfur > > > > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about it > all, > > > > specific > > > > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and > prejudice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > > > > > > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with increased > > > discrimination. > > > > > > > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that differ > from > > > one's > > > > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > > > > > > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > > > > years.....our lives depended on it. > > > > > > > > They still do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes frères et > mes > > > soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving > beyond > > > that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle pieces of > > > brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason than > that > > > is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or > otherwise. > > > > > > Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. Never > > > mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and addressed > in > > > their valuation of the future*. > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) > > > > > > > > > > > This morning.....on the news....men in saffron robes..duking it out > > over a perceived wrong....... > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > 'Tis sad indeed, Toomie. > > It's here there everywhere and nowhere but in the mind that is > inconsolably sadly resolutely and thoroughly mis-taken, hijacked and > bushwacked by the senses coupounded and fractured, dis-located by > inconsequential consequences presently present in the ameliorated > annotated highly abject objective subject unexamined unattended in > the al-to-gether, re-hearsed though un-researched, mis-apprehened in > futile denial, caught empty-handed, without one iota of a clue as to > who's who. > > A thoroughly modern dilemma. > > But there's hope in the scope of a the trial of the century: the > 100th monkey looks in the mirror scratches his/her head whilst a song > is playing overhead: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXci77nT-4 annaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! toombaru isn't saying it's sad honey. he's getting off on what he believes will shock. of course it doesn't. it's just another day in the life on the planet. he actually grooves on it dear. and anna...this stuff has nothing to do with the 'modern age'.....it's been going on since long before the monkey evolved into man...and on even grander and more horrific(to some) scales than anything anyone alive has witnessed. note anna, that he has not denied being a holocaust denier...wonder why? it's not about compassion or love that this guy spews his stuff...it's just all about strutting and showing his (unfortunately rather dull and dumb) 'feathers' before others...which he then goes on to tell that there are no others.......this stuff isn't smart or wise or spiritual or even worthy of a decent grade from a high school teacher. it's just plain palaver for palaver's sake. how in the world could it be for your or other's benefit when they believe there are no such animals. it's a silly word game similar to card tricks you play on children.except that most adults don't expect the kids to really believe that they have magic or special powers...but toom. wants you to think just that. wake up anna...toombaru NEVER will...haven't you figured THAT out by now? ..b bobji baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > <aoclery@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of the > > > > killer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were talking > > > > about the > > > > > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was > > reporting > > > > 150 > > > > > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion that > > some > > > > > lives are > > > > > > > > more important than others. The thousands of children > > that > > > > die of > > > > > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then > > there is > > > > > Darfur > > > > > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about it > > all, > > > > > specific > > > > > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and > > prejudice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > > > > > > > > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with increased > > > > discrimination. > > > > > > > > > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that differ > > from > > > > one's > > > > > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > > > > > years.....our lives depended on it. > > > > > > > > > > They still do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes frères et > > mes > > > > soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving > > beyond > > > > that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle pieces of > > > > brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason than > > that > > > > is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. Never > > > > mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and addressed > > in > > > > their valuation of the future*. > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This morning.....on the news....men in saffron robes..duking it out > > > over a perceived wrong....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > 'Tis sad indeed, Toomie. > > > > It's here there everywhere and nowhere but in the mind that is > > inconsolably sadly resolutely and thoroughly mis-taken, hijacked and > > bushwacked by the senses coupounded and fractured, dis-located by > > inconsequential consequences presently present in the ameliorated > > annotated highly abject objective subject unexamined unattended in > > the al-to-gether, re-hearsed though un-researched, mis-apprehened in > > futile denial, caught empty-handed, without one iota of a clue as to > > who's who. > > > > A thoroughly modern dilemma. > > > > But there's hope in the scope of a the trial of the century: the > > 100th monkey looks in the mirror scratches his/her head whilst a song > > is playing overhead: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXci77nT-4 > > > annaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! toombaru isn't saying it's sad honey. he's getting > > off on what he believes will shock. of course it doesn't. it's just > > another day in the life on the planet. he actually grooves on it dear. > > and anna...this stuff has nothing to do with the 'modern age'.....it's > > been going on since long before the monkey evolved into man...and on > > even grander and more horrific(to some) scales than anything anyone > > alive has witnessed. note anna, that he has not denied being a > > holocaust denier...wonder why? it's not about compassion or love that > > this guy spews his stuff...it's just all about strutting and showing > > his (unfortunately rather dull and dumb) 'feathers' before > > others...which he then goes on to tell that there are no > > others.......this stuff isn't smart or wise or spiritual or even > > worthy of a decent grade from a high school teacher. it's just plain > > palaver for palaver's sake. how in the world could it be for your or > > other's benefit when they believe there are no such animals. it's a > > silly word game similar to card tricks you play on children.except > > that most adults don't expect the kids to really believe that they > > have magic or special powers...but toom. wants you to think just that. > > wake up anna...toombaru NEVER will...haven't you figured THAT out by > > now? > > > .b bobji baba > Ok. Anna is now in her deadly 'serious' mode. It's like the Middle East Peace Forum I have been attending for the past 3 or 4 months. The group came together in June of last year as a serious effort to engage in a dialogic processs to resolve the crisis in Israel/Palestine. All these months have passed without a viable mission statement agreed to by the group. In the meantime, while points of order addressing 'rules' of engagement in meetings are (imho, should be the least of our concerns) hashed and rehashed, folks are living under deplorable conditions on one side and living with random suicide bombings on the other. Contiued death, destruction. Hatred. It seems that there are folks, wittingly or unwittingly there, to impede the process with 'formalities'. In counterpoint there should also be a balance between acting as responsible adults with a mission: we all say we're on the same page. Peace. Metta, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > <aoclery@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of > the > > > > > killer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were > talking > > > > > about the > > > > > > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was > > > reporting > > > > > 150 > > > > > > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > > > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion > that > > > some > > > > > > lives are > > > > > > > > > more important than others. The thousands of children > > > that > > > > > die of > > > > > > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then > > > there is > > > > > > Darfur > > > > > > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about > it > > > all, > > > > > > specific > > > > > > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and > > > prejudice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with increased > > > > > discrimination. > > > > > > > > > > > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that differ > > > from > > > > > one's > > > > > > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > > > > > > years.....our lives depended on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > They still do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes frères > et > > > mes > > > > > soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving > > > beyond > > > > > that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle pieces > of > > > > > brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason > than > > > that > > > > > is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. > Never > > > > > mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and > addressed > > > in > > > > > their valuation of the future*. > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This morning.....on the news....men in saffron robes..duking it > out > > > > over a perceived wrong....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Tis sad indeed, Toomie. > > > > > > It's here there everywhere and nowhere but in the mind that is > > > inconsolably sadly resolutely and thoroughly mis-taken, hijacked > and > > > bushwacked by the senses coupounded and fractured, dis-located > by > > > inconsequential consequences presently present in the ameliorated > > > annotated highly abject objective subject unexamined unattended > in > > > the al-to-gether, re-hearsed though un-researched, mis-apprehened > in > > > futile denial, caught empty-handed, without one iota of a clue as > to > > > who's who. > > > > > > A thoroughly modern dilemma. > > > > > > But there's hope in the scope of a the trial of the century: the > > > 100th monkey looks in the mirror scratches his/her head whilst a > song > > > is playing overhead: > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXci77nT-4 > > > > > > annaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! toombaru isn't saying it's sad honey. he's > getting > > > > off on what he believes will shock. of course it doesn't. it's just > > > > another day in the life on the planet. he actually grooves on it > dear. > > > > and anna...this stuff has nothing to do with the 'modern > age'.....it's > > > > been going on since long before the monkey evolved into man...and > on > > > > even grander and more horrific(to some) scales than anything anyone > > > > alive has witnessed. note anna, that he has not denied being a > > > > holocaust denier...wonder why? it's not about compassion or love > that > > > > this guy spews his stuff...it's just all about strutting and > showing > > > > his (unfortunately rather dull and dumb) 'feathers' before > > > > others...which he then goes on to tell that there are no > > > > others.......this stuff isn't smart or wise or spiritual or even > > > > worthy of a decent grade from a high school teacher. it's just > plain > > > > palaver for palaver's sake. how in the world could it be for your > or > > > > other's benefit when they believe there are no such animals. it's a > > > > silly word game similar to card tricks you play on children.except > > > > that most adults don't expect the kids to really believe that they > > > > have magic or special powers...but toom. wants you to think just > that. > > > > wake up anna...toombaru NEVER will...haven't you figured THAT out > by > > > > now? > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > Ok. Anna is now in her deadly 'serious' mode. > > It's like the Middle East Peace Forum I have been attending for the > past 3 or 4 months. The group came together in June of last year > as a serious effort to engage in a dialogic processs to resolve the > crisis in Israel/Palestine. > > All these months have passed without a viable mission statement > agreed to by the group. > > In the meantime, while points of order addressing 'rules' of > engagement in meetings are (imho, should be the least of our > concerns) hashed and rehashed, folks are living under deplorable > conditions on one side and living with random suicide bombings on the > other. Contiued death, destruction. Hatred. > > It seems that there are folks, wittingly or unwittingly there, to > impede the process with 'formalities'. In counterpoint there should > also be a balance between acting as responsible adults with a > mission: we all say we're on the same page. > > Peace. > > Metta, > Anna deadly seriously..... oh! isn't that special. Mutta Motta Mayhem, pax vobiscum.... if not..... pacis exsisto vos, ..b bobji baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > <aoclery@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of the > > > > killer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were talking > > > > about the > > > > > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was > > reporting > > > > 150 > > > > > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion that > > some > > > > > lives are > > > > > > > > more important than others. The thousands of children > > that > > > > die of > > > > > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then > > there is > > > > > Darfur > > > > > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about it > > all, > > > > > specific > > > > > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and > > prejudice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > > > > > > > > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with increased > > > > discrimination. > > > > > > > > > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that differ > > from > > > > one's > > > > > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > > > > > years.....our lives depended on it. > > > > > > > > > > They still do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes frères et > > mes > > > > soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving > > beyond > > > > that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle pieces of > > > > brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason than > > that > > > > is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. Never > > > > mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and addressed > > in > > > > their valuation of the future*. > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This morning.....on the news....men in saffron robes..duking it out > > > over a perceived wrong....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > 'Tis sad indeed, Toomie. > > > > It's here there everywhere and nowhere but in the mind that is > > inconsolably sadly resolutely and thoroughly mis-taken, hijacked and > > bushwacked by the senses coupounded and fractured, dis-located by > > inconsequential consequences presently present in the ameliorated > > annotated highly abject objective subject unexamined unattended in > > the al-to-gether, re-hearsed though un-researched, mis-apprehened in > > futile denial, caught empty-handed, without one iota of a clue as to > > who's who. > > > > A thoroughly modern dilemma. > > > > But there's hope in the scope of a the trial of the century: the > > 100th monkey looks in the mirror scratches his/her head whilst a song > > is playing overhead: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXci77nT-4 > > > annaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! toombaru isn't saying it's sad honey. he's getting > > off on what he believes will shock. of course it doesn't. it's just > > another day in the life on the planet. he actually grooves on it dear. > > and anna...this stuff has nothing to do with the 'modern age'.....it's > > been going on since long before the monkey evolved into man...and on > > even grander and more horrific(to some) scales than anything anyone > > alive has witnessed. note anna, that he has not denied being a > > holocaust denier...wonder why? it's not about compassion or love that > > this guy spews his stuff...it's just all about strutting and showing > > his (unfortunately rather dull and dumb) 'feathers' before > > others...which he then goes on to tell that there are no > > others.......this stuff isn't smart or wise or spiritual or even > > worthy of a decent grade from a high school teacher. it's just plain > > palaver for palaver's sake. how in the world could it be for your or > > other's benefit when they believe there are no such animals. it's a > > silly word game similar to card tricks you play on children.except > > that most adults don't expect the kids to really believe that they > > have magic or special powers...but toom. wants you to think just that. > > wake up anna...toombaru NEVER will...haven't you figured THAT out by > > now? > > > .b bobji baba > *** Thanks, Bob, those are delightful inconsistencies and self-contradictions. 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Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > <aoclery@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of > the > > > > > killer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were > talking > > > > > about the > > > > > > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was > > > reporting > > > > > 150 > > > > > > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > > > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion > that > > > some > > > > > > lives are > > > > > > > > > more important than others. The thousands of children > > > that > > > > > die of > > > > > > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then > > > there is > > > > > > Darfur > > > > > > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about > it > > > all, > > > > > > specific > > > > > > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and > > > prejudice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with increased > > > > > discrimination. > > > > > > > > > > > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that differ > > > from > > > > > one's > > > > > > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > > > > > > years.....our lives depended on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > They still do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes frères > et > > > mes > > > > > soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving > > > beyond > > > > > that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle pieces > of > > > > > brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason > than > > > that > > > > > is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. > Never > > > > > mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and > addressed > > > in > > > > > their valuation of the future*. > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This morning.....on the news....men in saffron robes..duking it > out > > > > over a perceived wrong....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Tis sad indeed, Toomie. > > > > > > It's here there everywhere and nowhere but in the mind that is > > > inconsolably sadly resolutely and thoroughly mis-taken, hijacked > and > > > bushwacked by the senses coupounded and fractured, dis-located > by > > > inconsequential consequences presently present in the ameliorated > > > annotated highly abject objective subject unexamined unattended > in > > > the al-to-gether, re-hearsed though un-researched, mis-apprehened > in > > > futile denial, caught empty-handed, without one iota of a clue as > to > > > who's who. > > > > > > A thoroughly modern dilemma. > > > > > > But there's hope in the scope of a the trial of the century: the > > > 100th monkey looks in the mirror scratches his/her head whilst a > song > > > is playing overhead: > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXci77nT-4 > > > > > > annaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! toombaru isn't saying it's sad honey. he's > getting > > > > off on what he believes will shock. of course it doesn't. it's just > > > > another day in the life on the planet. he actually grooves on it > dear. > > > > and anna...this stuff has nothing to do with the 'modern > age'.....it's > > > > been going on since long before the monkey evolved into man...and > on > > > > even grander and more horrific(to some) scales than anything anyone > > > > alive has witnessed. note anna, that he has not denied being a > > > > holocaust denier...wonder why? it's not about compassion or love > that > > > > this guy spews his stuff...it's just all about strutting and > showing > > > > his (unfortunately rather dull and dumb) 'feathers' before > > > > others...which he then goes on to tell that there are no > > > > others.......this stuff isn't smart or wise or spiritual or even > > > > worthy of a decent grade from a high school teacher. it's just > plain > > > > palaver for palaver's sake. how in the world could it be for your > or > > > > other's benefit when they believe there are no such animals. it's a > > > > silly word game similar to card tricks you play on children.except > > > > that most adults don't expect the kids to really believe that they > > > > have magic or special powers...but toom. wants you to think just > that. > > > > wake up anna...toombaru NEVER will...haven't you figured THAT out > by > > > > now? > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > Ok. Anna is now in her deadly 'serious' mode. > > It's like the Middle East Peace Forum I have been attending for the > past 3 or 4 months. The group came together in June of last year > as a serious effort to engage in a dialogic processs to resolve the > crisis in Israel/Palestine. > > All these months have passed without a viable mission statement > agreed to by the group. > > In the meantime, while points of order addressing 'rules' of > engagement in meetings are (imho, should be the least of our > concerns) hashed and rehashed, folks are living under deplorable > conditions on one side and living with random suicide bombings on the > other. Contiued death, destruction. Hatred. > > It seems that there are folks, wittingly or unwittingly there, to > impede the process with 'formalities'. In counterpoint there should > also be a balance between acting as responsible adults with a > mission: we all say we're on the same page. > > Peace. > > Metta, > Anna *** Sad but true. Why consider the page, when the words (and NUMBER$) are so...interesting. Likely to get alot worse, before it gets any better. K. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of the > > > > > killer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were talking > > > > > about the > > > > > > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was > > > reporting > > > > > 150 > > > > > > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > > > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion that > > > some > > > > > > lives are > > > > > > > > > more important than others. The thousands of children > > > that > > > > > die of > > > > > > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then > > > there is > > > > > > Darfur > > > > > > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about it > > > all, > > > > > > specific > > > > > > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and > > > prejudice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with increased > > > > > discrimination. > > > > > > > > > > > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that differ > > > from > > > > > one's > > > > > > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > > > > > > years.....our lives depended on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > They still do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes frères et > > > mes > > > > > soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving > > > beyond > > > > > that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle pieces of > > > > > brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason than > > > that > > > > > is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. Never > > > > > mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and addressed > > > in > > > > > their valuation of the future*. > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This morning.....on the news....men in saffron robes..duking it out > > > > over a perceived wrong....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Tis sad indeed, Toomie. > > > > > > It's here there everywhere and nowhere but in the mind that is > > > inconsolably sadly resolutely and thoroughly mis-taken, hijacked and > > > bushwacked by the senses coupounded and fractured, dis-located by > > > inconsequential consequences presently present in the ameliorated > > > annotated highly abject objective subject unexamined unattended in > > > the al-to-gether, re-hearsed though un-researched, mis-apprehened in > > > futile denial, caught empty-handed, without one iota of a clue as to > > > who's who. > > > > > > A thoroughly modern dilemma. > > > > > > But there's hope in the scope of a the trial of the century: the > > > 100th monkey looks in the mirror scratches his/her head whilst a song > > > is playing overhead: > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXci77nT-4 > > > > > > annaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! toombaru isn't saying it's sad honey. he's getting > > > > off on what he believes will shock. of course it doesn't. it's just > > > > another day in the life on the planet. he actually grooves on it dear. > > > > and anna...this stuff has nothing to do with the 'modern age'.....it's > > > > been going on since long before the monkey evolved into man...and on > > > > even grander and more horrific(to some) scales than anything anyone > > > > alive has witnessed. note anna, that he has not denied being a > > > > holocaust denier...wonder why? it's not about compassion or love that > > > > this guy spews his stuff...it's just all about strutting and showing > > > > his (unfortunately rather dull and dumb) 'feathers' before > > > > others...which he then goes on to tell that there are no > > > > others.......this stuff isn't smart or wise or spiritual or even > > > > worthy of a decent grade from a high school teacher. it's just plain > > > > palaver for palaver's sake. how in the world could it be for your or > > > > other's benefit when they believe there are no such animals. it's a > > > > silly word game similar to card tricks you play on children.except > > > > that most adults don't expect the kids to really believe that they > > > > have magic or special powers...but toom. wants you to think just that. > > > > wake up anna...toombaru NEVER will...haven't you figured THAT out by > > > > now? > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > *** Thanks, Bob, those are delightful inconsistencies > and self-contradictions. Fun stuff! > > Ken that's pretty funny ken. what 'self'? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > <aoclery@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of > > the > > > > > > killer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were > > talking > > > > > > about the > > > > > > > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was > > > > reporting > > > > > > 150 > > > > > > > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > > > > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion > > that > > > > some > > > > > > > lives are > > > > > > > > > > more important than others. The thousands of children > > > > that > > > > > > die of > > > > > > > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then > > > > there is > > > > > > > Darfur > > > > > > > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about > > it > > > > all, > > > > > > > specific > > > > > > > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and > > > > prejudice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with increased > > > > > > discrimination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that differ > > > > from > > > > > > one's > > > > > > > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > > > > > > > years.....our lives depended on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They still do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes frères > > et > > > > mes > > > > > > soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving > > > > beyond > > > > > > that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle pieces > > of > > > > > > brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason > > than > > > > that > > > > > > is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or > > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. > > Never > > > > > > mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and > > addressed > > > > in > > > > > > their valuation of the future*. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This morning.....on the news....men in saffron robes..duking it > > out > > > > > over a perceived wrong....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Tis sad indeed, Toomie. > > > > > > > > It's here there everywhere and nowhere but in the mind that is > > > > inconsolably sadly resolutely and thoroughly mis-taken, hijacked > > and > > > > bushwacked by the senses coupounded and fractured, dis-located > > by > > > > inconsequential consequences presently present in the ameliorated > > > > annotated highly abject objective subject unexamined unattended > > in > > > > the al-to-gether, re-hearsed though un-researched, mis-apprehened > > in > > > > futile denial, caught empty-handed, without one iota of a clue as > > to > > > > who's who. > > > > > > > > A thoroughly modern dilemma. > > > > > > > > But there's hope in the scope of a the trial of the century: the > > > > 100th monkey looks in the mirror scratches his/her head whilst a > > song > > > > is playing overhead: > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXci77nT-4 > > > > > > > > > annaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! toombaru isn't saying it's sad honey. he's > > getting > > > > > > off on what he believes will shock. of course it doesn't. it's just > > > > > > another day in the life on the planet. he actually grooves on it > > dear. > > > > > > and anna...this stuff has nothing to do with the 'modern > > age'.....it's > > > > > > been going on since long before the monkey evolved into man...and > > on > > > > > > even grander and more horrific(to some) scales than anything anyone > > > > > > alive has witnessed. note anna, that he has not denied being a > > > > > > holocaust denier...wonder why? it's not about compassion or love > > that > > > > > > this guy spews his stuff...it's just all about strutting and > > showing > > > > > > his (unfortunately rather dull and dumb) 'feathers' before > > > > > > others...which he then goes on to tell that there are no > > > > > > others.......this stuff isn't smart or wise or spiritual or even > > > > > > worthy of a decent grade from a high school teacher. it's just > > plain > > > > > > palaver for palaver's sake. how in the world could it be for your > > or > > > > > > other's benefit when they believe there are no such animals. it's a > > > > > > silly word game similar to card tricks you play on children.except > > > > > > that most adults don't expect the kids to really believe that they > > > > > > have magic or special powers...but toom. wants you to think just > > that. > > > > > > wake up anna...toombaru NEVER will...haven't you figured THAT out > > by > > > > > > now? > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > Ok. Anna is now in her deadly 'serious' mode. > > > > It's like the Middle East Peace Forum I have been attending for the > > past 3 or 4 months. The group came together in June of last year > > as a serious effort to engage in a dialogic processs to resolve the > > crisis in Israel/Palestine. > > > > All these months have passed without a viable mission statement > > agreed to by the group. > > > > In the meantime, while points of order addressing 'rules' of > > engagement in meetings are (imho, should be the least of our > > concerns) hashed and rehashed, folks are living under deplorable > > conditions on one side and living with random suicide bombings on the > > other. Contiued death, destruction. Hatred. > > > > It seems that there are folks, wittingly or unwittingly there, to > > impede the process with 'formalities'. In counterpoint there should > > also be a balance between acting as responsible adults with a > > mission: we all say we're on the same page. > > > > Peace. > > > > Metta, > > Anna > > *** Sad but true. Why consider the page, when the words > (and NUMBER$) are so...interesting. > > Likely to get alot worse, before it gets any better. > > K. worse compared to what? worse by 'who's' judgment? worse than when? now? oh hohoohohoooooooo, where do you live? what year do you think your living in? what makes you think you even know what 'better' would be? just a few thoughts for our boy of consistency... and non dialectic paradox. heeeeeeee. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of the > > > > > > killer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were > talking > > > > > > about the > > > > > > > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was > > > > reporting > > > > > > 150 > > > > > > > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > > > > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion that > > > > some > > > > > > > lives are > > > > > > > > > > more important than others. The thousands of children > > > > that > > > > > > die of > > > > > > > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then > > > > there is > > > > > > > Darfur > > > > > > > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about it > > > > all, > > > > > > > specific > > > > > > > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and > > > > prejudice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with increased > > > > > > discrimination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that differ > > > > from > > > > > > one's > > > > > > > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > > > > > > > years.....our lives depended on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They still do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes frères et > > > > mes > > > > > > soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving > > > > beyond > > > > > > that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle pieces of > > > > > > brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason than > > > > that > > > > > > is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or > > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. Never > > > > > > mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and > addressed > > > > in > > > > > > their valuation of the future*. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This morning.....on the news....men in saffron robes..duking > it out > > > > > over a perceived wrong....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Tis sad indeed, Toomie. > > > > > > > > It's here there everywhere and nowhere but in the mind that is > > > > inconsolably sadly resolutely and thoroughly mis-taken, hijacked > and > > > > bushwacked by the senses coupounded and fractured, dis-located by > > > > inconsequential consequences presently present in the ameliorated > > > > annotated highly abject objective subject unexamined unattended in > > > > the al-to-gether, re-hearsed though un-researched, > mis-apprehened in > > > > futile denial, caught empty-handed, without one iota of a clue > as to > > > > who's who. > > > > > > > > A thoroughly modern dilemma. > > > > > > > > But there's hope in the scope of a the trial of the century: the > > > > 100th monkey looks in the mirror scratches his/her head whilst a > song > > > > is playing overhead: > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXci77nT-4 > > > > > > > > > annaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! toombaru isn't saying it's sad honey. he's getting > > > > > > off on what he believes will shock. of course it doesn't. it's just > > > > > > another day in the life on the planet. he actually grooves on it > dear. > > > > > > and anna...this stuff has nothing to do with the 'modern > age'.....it's > > > > > > been going on since long before the monkey evolved into man...and on > > > > > > even grander and more horrific(to some) scales than anything anyone > > > > > > alive has witnessed. note anna, that he has not denied being a > > > > > > holocaust denier...wonder why? it's not about compassion or love that > > > > > > this guy spews his stuff...it's just all about strutting and showing > > > > > > his (unfortunately rather dull and dumb) 'feathers' before > > > > > > others...which he then goes on to tell that there are no > > > > > > others.......this stuff isn't smart or wise or spiritual or even > > > > > > worthy of a decent grade from a high school teacher. it's just plain > > > > > > palaver for palaver's sake. how in the world could it be for your or > > > > > > other's benefit when they believe there are no such animals. it's a > > > > > > silly word game similar to card tricks you play on children.except > > > > > > that most adults don't expect the kids to really believe that they > > > > > > have magic or special powers...but toom. wants you to think just > that. > > > > > > wake up anna...toombaru NEVER will...haven't you figured THAT out by > > > > > > now? > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > *** Thanks, Bob, those are delightful inconsistencies > > and self-contradictions. Fun stuff! > > > > Ken > > > that's pretty funny ken. > > what 'self'? > > .b b.b. *** Heh heh. The one and only, Bob: ...master/slave of image-realities ;-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of > > > the > > > > > > > killer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were > > > talking > > > > > > > about the > > > > > > > > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was > > > > > reporting > > > > > > > 150 > > > > > > > > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > > > > > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion > > > that > > > > > some > > > > > > > > lives are > > > > > > > > > > > more important than others. The thousands of children > > > > > that > > > > > > > die of > > > > > > > > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > Darfur > > > > > > > > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish about > > > it > > > > > all, > > > > > > > > specific > > > > > > > > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and > > > > > prejudice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with increased > > > > > > > discrimination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that differ > > > > > from > > > > > > > one's > > > > > > > > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > > > > > > > > years.....our lives depended on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They still do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes frères > > > et > > > > > mes > > > > > > > soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving > > > > > beyond > > > > > > > that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle pieces > > > of > > > > > > > brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason > > > than > > > > > that > > > > > > > is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or > > > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. > > > Never > > > > > > > mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and > > > addressed > > > > > in > > > > > > > their valuation of the future*. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This morning.....on the news....men in saffron robes..duking it > > > out > > > > > > over a perceived wrong....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Tis sad indeed, Toomie. > > > > > > > > > > It's here there everywhere and nowhere but in the mind that is > > > > > inconsolably sadly resolutely and thoroughly mis-taken, hijacked > > > and > > > > > bushwacked by the senses coupounded and fractured, dis-located > > > by > > > > > inconsequential consequences presently present in the ameliorated > > > > > annotated highly abject objective subject unexamined unattended > > > in > > > > > the al-to-gether, re-hearsed though un-researched, mis-apprehened > > > in > > > > > futile denial, caught empty-handed, without one iota of a clue as > > > to > > > > > who's who. > > > > > > > > > > A thoroughly modern dilemma. > > > > > > > > > > But there's hope in the scope of a the trial of the century: the > > > > > 100th monkey looks in the mirror scratches his/her head whilst a > > > song > > > > > is playing overhead: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXci77nT-4 > > > > > > > > > > > > annaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! toombaru isn't saying it's sad honey. he's > > > getting > > > > > > > > off on what he believes will shock. of course it doesn't. it's just > > > > > > > > another day in the life on the planet. he actually grooves on it > > > dear. > > > > > > > > and anna...this stuff has nothing to do with the 'modern > > > age'.....it's > > > > > > > > been going on since long before the monkey evolved into man...and > > > on > > > > > > > > even grander and more horrific(to some) scales than anything anyone > > > > > > > > alive has witnessed. note anna, that he has not denied being a > > > > > > > > holocaust denier...wonder why? it's not about compassion or love > > > that > > > > > > > > this guy spews his stuff...it's just all about strutting and > > > showing > > > > > > > > his (unfortunately rather dull and dumb) 'feathers' before > > > > > > > > others...which he then goes on to tell that there are no > > > > > > > > others.......this stuff isn't smart or wise or spiritual or even > > > > > > > > worthy of a decent grade from a high school teacher. it's just > > > plain > > > > > > > > palaver for palaver's sake. how in the world could it be for your > > > or > > > > > > > > other's benefit when they believe there are no such animals. it's a > > > > > > > > silly word game similar to card tricks you play on children.except > > > > > > > > that most adults don't expect the kids to really believe that they > > > > > > > > have magic or special powers...but toom. wants you to think just > > > that. > > > > > > > > wake up anna...toombaru NEVER will...haven't you figured THAT out > > > by > > > > > > > > now? > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Anna is now in her deadly 'serious' mode. > > > > > > It's like the Middle East Peace Forum I have been attending for the > > > past 3 or 4 months. The group came together in June of last year > > > as a serious effort to engage in a dialogic processs to resolve the > > > crisis in Israel/Palestine. > > > > > > All these months have passed without a viable mission statement > > > agreed to by the group. > > > > > > In the meantime, while points of order addressing 'rules' of > > > engagement in meetings are (imho, should be the least of our > > > concerns) hashed and rehashed, folks are living under deplorable > > > conditions on one side and living with random suicide bombings on the > > > other. Contiued death, destruction. Hatred. > > > > > > It seems that there are folks, wittingly or unwittingly there, to > > > impede the process with 'formalities'. In counterpoint there should > > > also be a balance between acting as responsible adults with a > > > mission: we all say we're on the same page. > > > > > > Peace. > > > > > > Metta, > > > Anna > > > > *** Sad but true. Why consider the page, when the words > > (and NUMBER$) are so...interesting. > > > > Likely to get alot worse, before it gets any better. > > > > K. > > > worse compared to what? > > worse by 'who's' judgment? > > worse than when? > > now? > > oh hohoohohoooooooo, > > where do you live? > > what year do you think your living in? > > what makes you think you even know what 'better' would be? > > just a few thoughts for our boy of consistency... > > and non dialectic paradox. > > heeeeeeee. > > .b b.b. *** Gee, I thought I was just making a comment, lol. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > <aoclery@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and > of the > > > > > > > killer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were > > talking > > > > > > > about the > > > > > > > > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was > > > > > reporting > > > > > > > 150 > > > > > > > > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > > > > > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion > that > > > > > some > > > > > > > > lives are > > > > > > > > > > > more important than others. The thousands of children > > > > > that > > > > > > > die of > > > > > > > > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. Then > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > Darfur > > > > > > > > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish > about it > > > > > all, > > > > > > > > specific > > > > > > > > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and > > > > > prejudice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with increased > > > > > > > discrimination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that differ > > > > > from > > > > > > > one's > > > > > > > > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > > > > > > > > years.....our lives depended on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They still do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes > frères et > > > > > mes > > > > > > > soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving > > > > > beyond > > > > > > > that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle > pieces of > > > > > > > brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason > than > > > > > that > > > > > > > is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or > > > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. > Never > > > > > > > mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and > > addressed > > > > > in > > > > > > > their valuation of the future*. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This morning.....on the news....men in saffron robes..duking > > it out > > > > > > over a perceived wrong....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Tis sad indeed, Toomie. > > > > > > > > > > It's here there everywhere and nowhere but in the mind that is > > > > > inconsolably sadly resolutely and thoroughly mis-taken, hijacked > > and > > > > > bushwacked by the senses coupounded and fractured, dis-located > by > > > > > inconsequential consequences presently present in the ameliorated > > > > > annotated highly abject objective subject unexamined > unattended in > > > > > the al-to-gether, re-hearsed though un-researched, > > mis-apprehened in > > > > > futile denial, caught empty-handed, without one iota of a clue > > as to > > > > > who's who. > > > > > > > > > > A thoroughly modern dilemma. > > > > > > > > > > But there's hope in the scope of a the trial of the century: the > > > > > 100th monkey looks in the mirror scratches his/her head whilst a > > song > > > > > is playing overhead: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXci77nT-4 > > > > > > > > > > > > annaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! toombaru isn't saying it's sad honey. he's > getting > > > > > > > > off on what he believes will shock. of course it doesn't. it's just > > > > > > > > another day in the life on the planet. he actually grooves on it > > dear. > > > > > > > > and anna...this stuff has nothing to do with the 'modern > > age'.....it's > > > > > > > > been going on since long before the monkey evolved into > man...and on > > > > > > > > even grander and more horrific(to some) scales than anything anyone > > > > > > > > alive has witnessed. note anna, that he has not denied being a > > > > > > > > holocaust denier...wonder why? it's not about compassion or love > that > > > > > > > > this guy spews his stuff...it's just all about strutting and > showing > > > > > > > > his (unfortunately rather dull and dumb) 'feathers' before > > > > > > > > others...which he then goes on to tell that there are no > > > > > > > > others.......this stuff isn't smart or wise or spiritual or even > > > > > > > > worthy of a decent grade from a high school teacher. it's just > plain > > > > > > > > palaver for palaver's sake. how in the world could it be for > your or > > > > > > > > other's benefit when they believe there are no such animals. it's a > > > > > > > > silly word game similar to card tricks you play on children.except > > > > > > > > that most adults don't expect the kids to really believe that they > > > > > > > > have magic or special powers...but toom. wants you to think just > > that. > > > > > > > > wake up anna...toombaru NEVER will...haven't you figured THAT > out by > > > > > > > > now? > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > *** Thanks, Bob, those are delightful inconsistencies > > > and self-contradictions. Fun stuff! > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > that's pretty funny ken. > > > > what 'self'? > > > > .b b.b. > > *** Heh heh. > > The one and only, Bob: > > ...master/slave of image-realities ;-) sure, sure kenny...have some milk and a good night's rest and it will all be over in the morning. maybe not over.. but possibly better...even though you believe it will get worse...this too shall pass. like the gas in your a.. i'm trying to imagine THAT image.... whew!.. not very enlightening at all. nighty night, ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " > <kailashana@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and of > > > > the > > > > > > > > killer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were > > > > talking > > > > > > > > about the > > > > > > > > > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was > > > > > > reporting > > > > > > > > 150 > > > > > > > > > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > > > > > > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion > > > > that > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > lives are > > > > > > > > > > > > more important than others. The thousands of > children > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > die of > > > > > > > > > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. > Then > > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > Darfur > > > > > > > > > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish > about > > > > it > > > > > > all, > > > > > > > > > specific > > > > > > > > > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and > > > > > > prejudice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with > increased > > > > > > > > discrimination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that > differ > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > one's > > > > > > > > > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > > > > > > > > > years.....our lives depended on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They still do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes frères > > > > et > > > > > > mes > > > > > > > > soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving > > > > > > beyond > > > > > > > > that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle > pieces > > > > of > > > > > > > > brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason > > > > than > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or > > > > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. > > > > Never > > > > > > > > mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and > > > > addressed > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > their valuation of the future*. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This morning.....on the news....men in saffron > robes..duking it > > > > out > > > > > > > over a perceived wrong....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Tis sad indeed, Toomie. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's here there everywhere and nowhere but in the mind that is > > > > > > inconsolably sadly resolutely and thoroughly mis-taken, > hijacked > > > > and > > > > > > bushwacked by the senses coupounded and fractured, dis-located > > > > by > > > > > > inconsequential consequences presently present in the > ameliorated > > > > > > annotated highly abject objective subject unexamined unattended > > > > in > > > > > > the al-to-gether, re-hearsed though un-researched, > mis-apprehened > > > > in > > > > > > futile denial, caught empty-handed, without one iota of a > clue as > > > > to > > > > > > who's who. > > > > > > > > > > > > A thoroughly modern dilemma. > > > > > > > > > > > > But there's hope in the scope of a the trial of the century: > the > > > > > > 100th monkey looks in the mirror scratches his/her head > whilst a > > > > song > > > > > > is playing overhead: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXci77nT-4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > annaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! toombaru isn't saying it's sad honey. he's > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > off on what he believes will shock. of course it doesn't. it's > just > > > > > > > > > > another day in the life on the planet. he actually grooves on it > > > > dear. > > > > > > > > > > and anna...this stuff has nothing to do with the 'modern > > > > age'.....it's > > > > > > > > > > been going on since long before the monkey evolved into man...and > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > even grander and more horrific(to some) scales than anything > anyone > > > > > > > > > > alive has witnessed. note anna, that he has not denied being a > > > > > > > > > > holocaust denier...wonder why? it's not about compassion or love > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > this guy spews his stuff...it's just all about strutting and > > > > showing > > > > > > > > > > his (unfortunately rather dull and dumb) 'feathers' before > > > > > > > > > > others...which he then goes on to tell that there are no > > > > > > > > > > others.......this stuff isn't smart or wise or spiritual or even > > > > > > > > > > worthy of a decent grade from a high school teacher. it's just > > > > plain > > > > > > > > > > palaver for palaver's sake. how in the world could it be for your > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > other's benefit when they believe there are no such animals. > it's a > > > > > > > > > > silly word game similar to card tricks you play on > children.except > > > > > > > > > > that most adults don't expect the kids to really believe that > they > > > > > > > > > > have magic or special powers...but toom. wants you to think just > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > wake up anna...toombaru NEVER will...haven't you figured THAT out > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > now? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Anna is now in her deadly 'serious' mode. > > > > > > > > It's like the Middle East Peace Forum I have been attending for the > > > > past 3 or 4 months. The group came together in June of last year > > > > as a serious effort to engage in a dialogic processs to resolve the > > > > crisis in Israel/Palestine. > > > > > > > > All these months have passed without a viable mission statement > > > > agreed to by the group. > > > > > > > > In the meantime, while points of order addressing 'rules' of > > > > engagement in meetings are (imho, should be the least of our > > > > concerns) hashed and rehashed, folks are living under deplorable > > > > conditions on one side and living with random suicide bombings > on the > > > > other. Contiued death, destruction. Hatred. > > > > > > > > It seems that there are folks, wittingly or unwittingly there, to > > > > impede the process with 'formalities'. In counterpoint there > should > > > > also be a balance between acting as responsible adults with a > > > > mission: we all say we're on the same page. > > > > > > > > Peace. > > > > > > > > Metta, > > > > Anna > > > > > > *** Sad but true. Why consider the page, when the words > > > (and NUMBER$) are so...interesting. > > > > > > Likely to get alot worse, before it gets any better. > > > > > > K. > > > > > > worse compared to what? > > > > worse by 'who's' judgment? > > > > worse than when? > > > > now? > > > > oh hohoohohoooooooo, > > > > where do you live? > > > > what year do you think your living in? > > > > what makes you think you even know what 'better' would be? > > > > just a few thoughts for our boy of consistency... > > > > and non dialectic paradox. > > > > heeeeeeee. > > > > .b b.b. > > *** Gee, I thought I was just making a comment, lol. is THAT what you call those things. good for you! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " > <kailashana@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " > > > > > > <aoclery@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I feel for the families of those killed and > > of the > > > > > > > > killer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn't help notice though that while cnn were > > > talking > > > > > > > > about the > > > > > > > > > > > > 'massacre' the text on the bottom of the screen was > > > > > > reporting > > > > > > > > 150 > > > > > > > > > > > > civilians killed in Irak. > > > > > > > > > > > > This again points out our Egos and Western opinion > > that > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > lives are > > > > > > > > > > > > more important than others. The thousands of > children > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > die of > > > > > > > > > > > > starvation every night are not mentioned either. > Then > > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > Darfur > > > > > > > > > > > > and the holocaust there. I could go on forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There always seem something tragically selfish > > about it > > > > > > all, > > > > > > > > > specific > > > > > > > > > > > > mourning of some kind...........Tony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To favor one's own is tribal and hardwired. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh this is the reason for racial discrimination and > > > > > > prejudice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mind is programmed to see difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mechanism's survival quotient increases with > increased > > > > > > > > discrimination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Variance of skin color or other physical traits that > differ > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > one's > > > > > > > > > own tribe are an indicator of threat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is prejudiced......For the first hundred million > > > > > > > > > years.....our lives depended on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They still do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'selfish' gene has been found??!! But alas, mes > > frères et > > > > > > mes > > > > > > > > soeurs, the test of this era we live in IS all about moving > > > > > > beyond > > > > > > > > that genetic disposition into the interlocking puzzle > > pieces of > > > > > > > > brother/sisterhood/human kinship. If for no other reason > > than > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > is the very meanss of survival--any & all genes, selfish or > > > > > > otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our lives, our children's children's lives depend on it. > > Never > > > > > > > > mind the 7 generations the American Indian spoke of and > > > addressed > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > their valuation of the future*. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (*Even though there is only the now to speak of;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This morning.....on the news....men in saffron robes..duking > > > it out > > > > > > > over a perceived wrong....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Tis sad indeed, Toomie. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's here there everywhere and nowhere but in the mind that is > > > > > > inconsolably sadly resolutely and thoroughly mis-taken, hijacked > > > and > > > > > > bushwacked by the senses coupounded and fractured, dis-located > > by > > > > > > inconsequential consequences presently present in the > ameliorated > > > > > > annotated highly abject objective subject unexamined > > unattended in > > > > > > the al-to-gether, re-hearsed though un-researched, > > > mis-apprehened in > > > > > > futile denial, caught empty-handed, without one iota of a clue > > > as to > > > > > > who's who. > > > > > > > > > > > > A thoroughly modern dilemma. > > > > > > > > > > > > But there's hope in the scope of a the trial of the century: > the > > > > > > 100th monkey looks in the mirror scratches his/her head whilst a > > > song > > > > > > is playing overhead: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXci77nT-4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > annaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! toombaru isn't saying it's sad honey. he's > > getting > > > > > > > > > > off on what he believes will shock. of course it doesn't. it's > just > > > > > > > > > > another day in the life on the planet. he actually grooves on it > > > dear. > > > > > > > > > > and anna...this stuff has nothing to do with the 'modern > > > age'.....it's > > > > > > > > > > been going on since long before the monkey evolved into > > man...and on > > > > > > > > > > even grander and more horrific(to some) scales than anything > anyone > > > > > > > > > > alive has witnessed. note anna, that he has not denied being a > > > > > > > > > > holocaust denier...wonder why? it's not about compassion or love > > that > > > > > > > > > > this guy spews his stuff...it's just all about strutting and > > showing > > > > > > > > > > his (unfortunately rather dull and dumb) 'feathers' before > > > > > > > > > > others...which he then goes on to tell that there are no > > > > > > > > > > others.......this stuff isn't smart or wise or spiritual or even > > > > > > > > > > worthy of a decent grade from a high school teacher. it's just > > plain > > > > > > > > > > palaver for palaver's sake. how in the world could it be for > > your or > > > > > > > > > > other's benefit when they believe there are no such animals. > it's a > > > > > > > > > > silly word game similar to card tricks you play on > children.except > > > > > > > > > > that most adults don't expect the kids to really believe that > they > > > > > > > > > > have magic or special powers...but toom. wants you to think just > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > wake up anna...toombaru NEVER will...haven't you figured THAT > > out by > > > > > > > > > > now? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > > > > > *** Thanks, Bob, those are delightful inconsistencies > > > > and self-contradictions. Fun stuff! > > > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > > that's pretty funny ken. > > > > > > what 'self'? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > *** Heh heh. > > > > The one and only, Bob: > > > > ...master/slave of image-realities ;-) > sure, sure kenny...have some milk and a good night's rest and it will > all be over in the morning. > > > maybe not over.. but possibly better...even though you believe it will > get worse...this too shall pass. like the gas in your a.. > > > i'm trying to imagine THAT image.... > > whew!.. > > not very enlightening at all. > > nighty night, > > .b b.b. *** Say goodnight to the folks, Bob. Any post could be your last, n'est-ce-pas? ;-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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