Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 the wish to be Master of life (-dream).....is like the wish to be Master of the dream during sleep.... means, it's impossible to decide and have free will about the content Marc Ps: but with some Awareness....it's possible that the life-dream is flowing nicely....without too much troubles & conflicts....(and words ....just continue....to be free....as ever....forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 .... there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... ...iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > ... > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > ...iietsa > a nicely flowing life (dream)....don't know much " restistance " ....therefore it's a " flow " ....of life.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > ... > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > > ...iietsa > > > > > a nicely flowing life (dream)....don't know > much " restistance " ....therefore it's a " flow " ....of life.... > > > Marc > ....you dont know " much " resistance ? ....what do you mean ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > a nicely flowing life (dream)....don't know > > much " restistance " ....therefore it's a " flow " ....of life.... > > > > > > Marc > > > ...you dont know " much " resistance ? > ...what do you mean ? when life-dream is flowing nicely.....there is less appearent " resistance " ..... just like a calm sleep and dream during night.... maybe you could explain so also what you mean with: " there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere " .... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > a nicely flowing life (dream)....don't know > > > much " restistance " ....therefore it's a " flow " ....of life.... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > ...you dont know " much " resistance ? > > ...what do you mean ? > > > when life-dream is flowing nicely.....there is less > appearent " resistance " ..... > just like a calm sleep and dream during night.... > > > maybe you could explain so also what you mean with: " there are > resistance to the flow of life everywhere " .... > > Marc > example: a man is having a conversation with another man they are both thinking they are right in the subject of course but just like everywhere they are not of the same oppinion so...because they are both holding on to their own (right) idea or oppinion they at the same time are resisting the other mans (wrong) oppinion... all over the world men are resisting and fighting one another because of ideas and oppinions...resistance.... in fact there dont even have to be another man... one man and his mind is enough to create resistance... lets say the one man is in his own eyes ugly...and that he wants to become good looking....there is that resistance again same resistance...but different subject resistance to oneself or to another is the same... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > a nicely flowing life (dream)....don't know > > > much " restistance " ....therefore it's a " flow " ....of life.... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > ...you dont know " much " resistance ? > > ...what do you mean ? > > > when life-dream is flowing nicely.....there is less > appearent " resistance " ..... > just like a calm sleep and dream during night.... the life-dream is flowing nicely or not because of you... leave it all alone and there is no problem... try to do something about it ... and it probably will not flow nicely for so long ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > > > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a nicely flowing life (dream)....don't know > > > > much " restistance " ....therefore it's a " flow " ....of life.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > ...you dont know " much " resistance ? > > > ...what do you mean ? > > > > > > when life-dream is flowing nicely.....there is less > > appearent " resistance " ..... > > just like a calm sleep and dream during night.... > > > > > > maybe you could explain so also what you mean with: " there are > > resistance to the flow of life everywhere " .... > > > > Marc > > > example: > a man is having a conversation with another man > they are both thinking they are right in the subject of course > but just like everywhere they are not of the same oppinion > so...because they are both holding on to their own (right) idea or > oppinion they at the same time are resisting the other mans (wrong) > oppinion... > all over the world men are resisting and fighting one another > because of ideas and oppinions...resistance.... > > in fact there dont even have to be another man... > one man and his mind is enough to create resistance... > lets say the one man is in his own eyes ugly...and that he wants to > become good looking....there is that resistance again > same resistance...but different subject > resistance to oneself or to another is the same... > ...iietsa yes....ok, i see the ego-mind make the difference....to a more or less nice flowing life-dream... there are as many different opinions....as there are appearing ego- minds Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > > > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a nicely flowing life (dream)....don't know > > > > much " restistance " ....therefore it's a " flow " ....of life.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > ...you dont know " much " resistance ? > > > ...what do you mean ? > > > > > > when life-dream is flowing nicely.....there is less > > appearent " resistance " ..... > > just like a calm sleep and dream during night.... > > > the life-dream is flowing nicely or not because of you... > leave it all alone and there is no problem... > try to do something about it ... > and it probably will not flow nicely for so long > ...iietsa yes....because of the ego-mind..... leaving the ego-minded non-sense.......give some more peaceful flow Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > > > > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a nicely flowing life (dream)....don't know > > > > > much " restistance " ....therefore it's a " flow " ....of life.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > ...you dont know " much " resistance ? > > > > ...what do you mean ? > > > > > > > > > when life-dream is flowing nicely.....there is less > > > appearent " resistance " ..... > > > just like a calm sleep and dream during night.... > > > > > > > > > maybe you could explain so also what you mean with: " there are > > > resistance to the flow of life everywhere " .... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > example: > > a man is having a conversation with another man > > they are both thinking they are right in the subject of course > > but just like everywhere they are not of the same oppinion > > so...because they are both holding on to their own (right) idea or > > oppinion they at the same time are resisting the other mans (wrong) > > oppinion... > > all over the world men are resisting and fighting one another > > because of ideas and oppinions...resistance.... > > > > in fact there dont even have to be another man... > > one man and his mind is enough to create resistance... > > lets say the one man is in his own eyes ugly...and that he wants to > > become good looking....there is that resistance again > > same resistance...but different subject > > resistance to oneself or to another is the same... > > ...iietsa > > > yes....ok, i see > > > the ego-mind make the difference....to a more or less nice flowing > life-dream... > > there are as many different opinions....as there are appearing ego- > minds > > > Marc > one ego-mind can carry millions of ideas and oppinions.... the solution to all this is to let the mind to be alone.... no idea or oppinion is better than another one.... so if you dont grab anything at all from the mind... you are in total control... but as soon as there is the reflex to grab...then there is the chance or risk of going into duality and as soon as you are in duality the mind is in control... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > > > > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a nicely flowing life (dream)....don't know > > > > > much " restistance " ....therefore it's a " flow " ....of life.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > ...you dont know " much " resistance ? > > > > ...what do you mean ? > > > > > > > > > when life-dream is flowing nicely.....there is less > > > appearent " resistance " ..... > > > just like a calm sleep and dream during night.... > > > > > > the life-dream is flowing nicely or not because of you... > > leave it all alone and there is no problem... > > try to do something about it ... > > and it probably will not flow nicely for so long > > ...iietsa > > > yes....because of the ego-mind..... > > leaving the ego-minded non-sense.......give some more peaceful flow > > Marc > > > peace is when you do not react to the mind .....and when you react to the mind your in duality ...trying to do all sort of things to come out of it....all those tryings is more reactions...so doing things is staying in the duality of the mind.. and not doing or not reacting to the mind is staying who you are ...peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > > > > > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a nicely flowing life (dream)....don't know > > > > > > much " restistance " ....therefore it's a " flow " ....of > life.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > ...you dont know " much " resistance ? > > > > > ...what do you mean ? > > > > > > > > > > > > when life-dream is flowing nicely.....there is less > > > > appearent " resistance " ..... > > > > just like a calm sleep and dream during night.... > > > > > > > > > the life-dream is flowing nicely or not because of you... > > > leave it all alone and there is no problem... > > > try to do something about it ... > > > and it probably will not flow nicely for so long > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > yes....because of the ego-mind..... > > > > leaving the ego-minded non-sense.......give some more peaceful flow > > > > Marc > > > > > > peace is when you do not react to the mind > ....and when you react to the mind your in duality ...trying to do > all sort of things to come out of it....all those tryings is more > reactions...so doing things is staying in the duality of the mind.. > and not doing or not reacting to the mind is staying who you > are ...peace yes.... impossible trying to " control the mind " .... a peaceful mind....don't has any thoughts..... a restless mind is filled up with a never ending flow of thoughts.... trying to do something........to come " out of a restless mind " always fail.....and yes, duality is remaining.... as long there is a persisting false identification....no chance to get a peaceful mind it need some time....to cross this false identification.....means, to loose the ego-mind Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > > > > > > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own > buisness... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a nicely flowing life (dream)....don't know > > > > > > > much " restistance " ....therefore it's a " flow " ....of > > life.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you dont know " much " resistance ? > > > > > > ...what do you mean ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when life-dream is flowing nicely.....there is less > > > > > appearent " resistance " ..... > > > > > just like a calm sleep and dream during night.... > > > > > > > > > > > > the life-dream is flowing nicely or not because of you... > > > > leave it all alone and there is no problem... > > > > try to do something about it ... > > > > and it probably will not flow nicely for so long > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > yes....because of the ego-mind..... > > > > > > leaving the ego-minded non-sense.......give some more peaceful > flow > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > peace is when you do not react to the mind > > ....and when you react to the mind your in duality ...trying to do > > all sort of things to come out of it....all those tryings is more > > reactions...so doing things is staying in the duality of the mind.. > > and not doing or not reacting to the mind is staying who you > > are ...peace > > > yes.... > > impossible trying to " control the mind " .... > > a peaceful mind....don't has any thoughts..... > a restless mind is filled up with a never ending flow of thoughts.... > > trying to do something........to come " out of a restless mind " always > fail.....and yes, duality is remaining.... > > as long there is a persisting false identification....no chance to > get a peaceful mind > > it need some time....to cross this false identification.....means, to > loose the ego-mind > > > Marc > We LIVE in duality; duality is made up of separateness in order to experience the whole: the unity of Experience. All the rest are thoughts about and distinctions based on perceptions of right and wrong, good and bad, duality and non-duality and the million and one nuances and variations on that theme. In other words let's enjoy, let's commiserate, let's share in love and compassion and lastly, be at peace with it all. Nothing is more important. Nothing else needs to be done except what is always appropriate in the action taken now. Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life > everywhere... > > > > > > > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own > > buisness... > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a nicely flowing life (dream)....don't know > > > > > > > > much " restistance " ....therefore it's a " flow " ....of > > > life.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you dont know " much " resistance ? > > > > > > > ...what do you mean ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when life-dream is flowing nicely.....there is less > > > > > > appearent " resistance " ..... > > > > > > just like a calm sleep and dream during night.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the life-dream is flowing nicely or not because of you... > > > > > leave it all alone and there is no problem... > > > > > try to do something about it ... > > > > > and it probably will not flow nicely for so long > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > yes....because of the ego-mind..... > > > > > > > > leaving the ego-minded non-sense.......give some more peaceful > > flow > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > peace is when you do not react to the mind > > > ....and when you react to the mind your in duality ...trying to > do > > > all sort of things to come out of it....all those tryings is more > > > reactions...so doing things is staying in the duality of the > mind.. > > > and not doing or not reacting to the mind is staying who you > > > are ...peace > > > > > > yes.... > > > > impossible trying to " control the mind " .... > > > > a peaceful mind....don't has any thoughts..... > > a restless mind is filled up with a never ending flow of > thoughts.... > > > > trying to do something........to come " out of a restless mind " > always > > fail.....and yes, duality is remaining.... > > > > as long there is a persisting false identification....no chance to > > get a peaceful mind > > > > it need some time....to cross this false identification.....means, > to > > loose the ego-mind > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > We LIVE in duality; duality is made up of separateness in order to > experience the whole: the unity of Experience. > > All the rest are thoughts about and distinctions based on perceptions > of right and wrong, good and bad, duality and non-duality and the > million and one nuances and variations on that theme. > > In other words let's enjoy, let's commiserate, let's share in love > and compassion and lastly, be at peace with it all. > > Nothing is more important. Nothing else needs to be done except what > is always appropriate in the action taken now. > > Anna >It is rewally incredible, this idea that we somehow have a choice in these matters--or in any other matters-- " Let's enjoy " you say. Well, if joy comes, we will enjoy. Do you thing you can mix up a batch of joy? or peace? or anger? or exitement ? or anything else?If it happens , it happens and if it doesn't, it doesn't. You can no more create any of these states than you can create a bird or a dog.Really the most incredible of all concepts is the concept of choice. Even God doesn't have any.Ho detto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > ... > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > ...iietsa > Electricity exists only in resistance. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > ... > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > > ...iietsa > > > > > Electricity exists only in resistance. > > > toombaru > and so you are taking yourself for a bulb....? say is that a 40w or a 60w...? or was it a toaster...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > Electricity exists only in resistance. > > > > > > toombaru > > > and so you are taking yourself for a bulb....? > say is that a 40w or a 60w...? > or was it a toaster...? > Life exists only in resistance. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > Electricity exists only in resistance. > > > > > > toombaru > > > and so you are taking yourself for a bulb....? > say is that a 40w or a 60w...? > or was it a toaster...? i understand that there are no such things as bulbs or toasters. when i make my toast in the morning, it's done in the dark without a light bulb and miraculously without a toaster. s'cuse me... i couldn't 'resist'. no electricity for me today. ..b bobji baba The Electricity Nazi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life everywhere... > > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own buisness... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > Electricity exists only in resistance. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > and so you are taking yourself for a bulb....? > > say is that a 40w or a 60w...? > > or was it a toaster...? > > > > > Life exists only in resistance. > > > toombaru now that's electric! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life > everywhere... > > > > > > > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own > > buisness... > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a nicely flowing life (dream)....don't know > > > > > > > > much " restistance " ....therefore it's a " flow " ....of > > > life.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you dont know " much " resistance ? > > > > > > > ...what do you mean ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when life-dream is flowing nicely.....there is less > > > > > > appearent " resistance " ..... > > > > > > just like a calm sleep and dream during night.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the life-dream is flowing nicely or not because of you... > > > > > leave it all alone and there is no problem... > > > > > try to do something about it ... > > > > > and it probably will not flow nicely for so long > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > yes....because of the ego-mind..... > > > > > > > > leaving the ego-minded non-sense.......give some more peaceful > > flow > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > peace is when you do not react to the mind > > > ....and when you react to the mind your in duality ...trying to > do > > > all sort of things to come out of it....all those tryings is more > > > reactions...so doing things is staying in the duality of the > mind.. > > > and not doing or not reacting to the mind is staying who you > > > are ...peace > > > > > > yes.... > > > > impossible trying to " control the mind " .... > > > > a peaceful mind....don't has any thoughts..... > > a restless mind is filled up with a never ending flow of > thoughts.... > > > > trying to do something........to come " out of a restless mind " > always > > fail.....and yes, duality is remaining.... > > > > as long there is a persisting false identification....no chance to > > get a peaceful mind > > > > it need some time....to cross this false identification.....means, > to > > loose the ego-mind > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > We LIVE in duality; duality is made up of separateness in order to > experience the whole: the unity of Experience. > > All the rest are thoughts about and distinctions based on perceptions > of right and wrong, good and bad, duality and non-duality and the > million and one nuances and variations on that theme. > > In other words let's enjoy, let's commiserate, let's share in love > and compassion and lastly, be at peace with it all. > > Nothing is more important. Nothing else needs to be done except what > is always appropriate in the action taken now. > > Anna yes.... so wish you to just.....do/live/practise....what you are talking about Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are resistance to the flow of life > > everywhere... > > > > > > > > > > ...why just dont let life flow with its own > > > buisness... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a nicely flowing life (dream)....don't know > > > > > > > > > much " restistance " ....therefore it's a " flow " ....of > > > > life.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...you dont know " much " resistance ? > > > > > > > > ...what do you mean ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when life-dream is flowing nicely.....there is less > > > > > > > appearent " resistance " ..... > > > > > > > just like a calm sleep and dream during night.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the life-dream is flowing nicely or not because of you... > > > > > > leave it all alone and there is no problem... > > > > > > try to do something about it ... > > > > > > and it probably will not flow nicely for so long > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes....because of the ego-mind..... > > > > > > > > > > leaving the ego-minded non-sense.......give some more > peaceful > > > flow > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > peace is when you do not react to the mind > > > > ....and when you react to the mind your in duality ...trying > to > > do > > > > all sort of things to come out of it....all those tryings is > more > > > > reactions...so doing things is staying in the duality of the > > mind.. > > > > and not doing or not reacting to the mind is staying who you > > > > are ...peace > > > > > > > > > yes.... > > > > > > impossible trying to " control the mind " .... > > > > > > a peaceful mind....don't has any thoughts..... > > > a restless mind is filled up with a never ending flow of > > thoughts.... > > > > > > trying to do something........to come " out of a restless mind " > > always > > > fail.....and yes, duality is remaining.... > > > > > > as long there is a persisting false identification....no chance > to > > > get a peaceful mind > > > > > > it need some time....to cross this false > identification.....means, > > to > > > loose the ego-mind > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > We LIVE in duality; duality is made up of separateness in order to > > experience the whole: the unity of Experience. > > > > All the rest are thoughts about and distinctions based on > perceptions > > of right and wrong, good and bad, duality and non-duality and the > > million and one nuances and variations on that theme. > > > > In other words let's enjoy, let's commiserate, let's share in love > > and compassion and lastly, be at peace with it all. > > > > Nothing is more important. Nothing else needs to be done except > what > > is always appropriate in the action taken now. > > > > Anna > >It is rewally incredible, this idea that we somehow have a choice > in these matters--or in any other matters-- " Let's enjoy " you say. > Well, if joy comes, we will enjoy. Do you thing you can mix up a > batch of joy? or peace? or anger? or exitement ? or anything else? If > it happens , it happens and if it doesn't, it doesn't. You can no > more create any of these states than you can create a bird or a > dog.Really the most incredible of all concepts is the concept of > choice. Even God doesn't have any.Ho detto. yes..... no choices.... the one who is liberated from whatever illusions/concepts/ego/seperations/emotions..... .....don't ask for any choices..... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > the wish to be Master of life (-dream).....is like the wish to be > Master of the dream during sleep.... > > means, it's impossible to decide and have free will about the content > > > Marc > > > Ps: but with some Awareness....it's possible that the life-dream is > flowing nicely....without too much troubles & conflicts....(and words > > ...just continue....to be free....as ever....forever it's necessary, sometimes, to develop some love.....for the ones who need/are forced.....to be proud of whatever fantastic titles...Masters degrees....PHD....and other worldly things let's make some effort in this.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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