Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 It is only your belief in God that separates you from God. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > It is only your belief in God that separates you from God. > > > > toombaru who do 'you' believe there is to believe in god or not. who can choose such belief or reject it. it's more important if god believes in 'you'. 'your' belief regarding 'other's' belief is your separation. drop that and watch what happens. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > It is only your belief in God that separates you from God. > > > > toombaru nobody and nothing, ever, in an appearing world, is seperated to God....whatever the beliefs are Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It is only your belief in God that separates you from God. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > nobody and nothing, ever, in an appearing world, is seperated to > God....whatever the beliefs are > > Marc > If you believe that there is a god.......you believe that you are separate from him. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only your belief in God that separates you from God. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > nobody and nothing, ever, in an appearing world, is seperated to > > God....whatever the beliefs are > > > > Marc > > > > > > If you believe that there is a god.......you believe that you are > separate from him. > > > toombaru why so.....? i know many people who believe in " God " ....but don't believe that they are seperated from him... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only your belief in God that separates you from God. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > nobody and nothing, ever, in an appearing world, is seperated to > > God....whatever the beliefs are > > > > Marc > > > > > > If you believe that there is a god.......you believe that you are > separate from him. > > > toombaru http://www.answers.com/topic/hockney-a-bigger-splash-jpg > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only your belief in God that separates you from God. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > nobody and nothing, ever, in an appearing world, is seperated to > > > God....whatever the beliefs are > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > If you believe that there is a god.......you believe that you are > > separate from him. > > > > > > toombaru > > > why so.....? > i know many people who believe in " God " ....but don't believe that > they are separated from him... > > Marc > > > If they believe that there is a self........and they believe that there is a god....they are by definition separated from that god. .....even if they imagine that they are inside of that god. (anything with an inside has to have an outside) They conceptualize a creator and then assign qualities to that which exists only in imagination. toombaru toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only your belief in God that separates you from God. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nobody and nothing, ever, in an appearing world, is seperated to > > > > God....whatever the beliefs are > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you believe that there is a god.......you believe that you are > > > separate from him. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > why so.....? > > i know many people who believe in " God " ....but don't believe that > > they are separated from him... > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > If they believe that there is a self........and they believe that > there is a god....they are by definition separated from that god. > > > ....even if they imagine that they are inside of that god. > > (anything with an inside has to have an outside) > > > They conceptualize a creator and then assign qualities to that which > exists only in imagination. > > > toombaru > > > toombaru > many possibilities....of imaginary " connections " or " seperations " to Whatever......in the appearence of the world endless discussions could go on....in some worldly talk....mainly because people are too attached to this fiction of appearing world.....and also so, to their ego-mind only ego-minds care about of seperations or unity or whatever......of appearing " others " ..... who cares ....about " who " is seperated to God....or not...? nobody, for real the only " creation " which is happening....constantly....within the appearence of the world......is, first the imaginary " you " ....which already feel to be seperated to whoever....due to ignorance of real Self this words....like all other words i'm writing in here.....are to the Self.....because, there is nothing else, for real..... whoever is writing in here....any words.....is Not the real Self..... is also Not God..... i think it's possible to enter into Oneness with real Self....or " God " .....or " Brahman " ....or " whatever " .....but then....Silence is remaining.....within infinite happiness, love and peace only due to the (real) existence of Self...or God....or Brahman....or " ... " .....it's possible to breath....and think....and do whatever imaginary actions.....as whatever imaginary entity Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only your belief in God that separates you from God. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nobody and nothing, ever, in an appearing world, is seperated > to > > > > > God....whatever the beliefs are > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you believe that there is a god.......you believe that you > are > > > > separate from him. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > why so.....? > > > i know many people who believe in " God " ....but don't believe that > > > they are separated from him... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If they believe that there is a self........and they believe that > > there is a god....they are by definition separated from that god. > > > > > > ....even if they imagine that they are inside of that god. > > > > (anything with an inside has to have an outside) > > > > > > They conceptualize a creator and then assign qualities to that which > > exists only in imagination. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > many possibilities....of imaginary " connections " or " seperations " to > Whatever......in the appearence of the world > > > > endless discussions could go on....in some worldly talk....mainly > because people are too attached to this fiction of appearing > world.....and also so, to their ego-mind > > only ego-minds care about of seperations or unity or whatever......of > appearing " others " ..... > > > who cares ....about " who " is seperated to God....or not...? > > nobody, for real > > > the only " creation " which is happening....constantly....within the > appearence of the world......is, first the imaginary " you " ....which > already feel to be seperated to whoever....due to ignorance of real > Self > > this words....like all other words i'm writing in here.....are to the > Self.....because, there is nothing else, for real..... > > whoever is writing in here....any words.....is Not the real Self..... > is also Not God..... > > i think it's possible to enter into Oneness with real > Self....or " God " .....or " Brahman " ....or " whatever " .....but > then....Silence is remaining.....within infinite happiness, love and > peace > > > only due to the (real) existence of Self...or God....or > Brahman....or " ... " .....it's possible to breath....and think....and > do whatever imaginary actions.....as whatever imaginary entity > > > Marc > You have merely substituted the concept " God " for the concept " Big Self " . The I am is the mother of the " Big Self " . Not the other way around. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only your belief in God that separates you from God. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nobody and nothing, ever, in an appearing world, is seperated > > to > > > > > > God....whatever the beliefs are > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you believe that there is a god.......you believe that you > > are > > > > > separate from him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > why so.....? > > > > i know many people who believe in " God " ....but don't believe that > > > > they are separated from him... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If they believe that there is a self........and they believe that > > > there is a god....they are by definition separated from that god. > > > > > > > > > ....even if they imagine that they are inside of that god. > > > > > > (anything with an inside has to have an outside) > > > > > > > > > They conceptualize a creator and then assign qualities to that which > > > exists only in imagination. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > many possibilities....of imaginary " connections " or " seperations " to > > Whatever......in the appearence of the world > > > > > > > > endless discussions could go on....in some worldly talk....mainly > > because people are too attached to this fiction of appearing > > world.....and also so, to their ego-mind > > > > only ego-minds care about of seperations or unity or whatever......of > > appearing " others " ..... > > > > > > who cares ....about " who " is seperated to God....or not...? > > > > nobody, for real > > > > > > the only " creation " which is happening....constantly....within the > > appearence of the world......is, first the imaginary " you " ....which > > already feel to be seperated to whoever....due to ignorance of real > > Self > > > > this words....like all other words i'm writing in here.....are to the > > Self.....because, there is nothing else, for real..... > > > > whoever is writing in here....any words.....is Not the real Self..... > > is also Not God..... > > > > i think it's possible to enter into Oneness with real > > Self....or " God " .....or " Brahman " ....or " whatever " .....but > > then....Silence is remaining.....within infinite happiness, love and > > peace > > > > > > only due to the (real) existence of Self...or God....or > > Brahman....or " ... " .....it's possible to breath....and think....and > > do whatever imaginary actions.....as whatever imaginary entity > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > You have merely substituted the concept " God " for the concept " Big Self " . > > > The I am is the mother of the " Big Self " . > > > Not the other way around. > > > > toombaru in non-duality.....it's difficult to talk about....a special " way around " ..... in non-duality.....there is nothing which is the cause of something else (other).....because there is no " other " in No way around...and around...and around so...this " I Am " concept....is nothing else....as a nice illusion.....melting....again and again......(just like a slowflake maybe we agree that this bubbling messages in here.....without exceptions......are the words of body-mind-intellect - limited entities.....which maybe try hard to express their limits...... in front of infinity, timelessness, changelessness, formlessness.... but " who " don't change anything at all.....to their little self....and to real Self too (even not to.... " I Am " ....if you like) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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