Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 A gentleman from Bombay said: " I asked Mother in Sri Aurobindo Ashram the following question: 'I keep my mind blank without thoughts arising so that God might show Himself in His true Being. But I do not perceive anything. " The reply was to this effect: 'The attitude is right. The Power will come down from above. It is a direct experience'. " So he asked what further he should do. Maharshi: Be what you are. There is nothing to come down or become manifest. All that is needful is to lose the ego, That what is, is always there. Even now you are That. You are not apart from it. The blank is seen by you. You are there to see the blank. What do you wait for? The thought " I have not seen, " the expectation to see and the desire of getting something, are all the working of the ego. You have fallen into the snares of the ego. The ego says all these and not you. Be yourself and nothing more! Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville wrote: > > A gentleman from Bombay said: " I asked Mother in Sri Aurobindo Ashram the following question: 'I keep my mind blank without thoughts arising so that God might show Himself in His true Being. But I do not perceive anything. " The reply was to this effect: 'The attitude is right. The Power will come down from above. It is a direct experience'. " So he asked what further he should do. > > Maharshi: Be what you are. There is nothing to come down or become manifest. All that is needful is to lose the ego, That what is, is always there. Even now you are That. You are not apart from it. The blank is seen by you. You are there to see the blank. What do you wait for? The thought " I have not seen, " the expectation to see and the desire of getting something, are all the working of the ego. You have fallen into the snares of the ego. The ego says all these and not you. Be yourself and nothing more! > > Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi > > Prescriptions for the dead. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> wrote: > > > > A gentleman from Bombay said: " I asked Mother in Sri Aurobindo > Ashram the following question: 'I keep my mind blank without thoughts > arising so that God might show Himself in His true Being. But I do not > perceive anything. " The reply was to this effect: 'The attitude is > right. The Power will come down from above. It is a direct > experience'. " So he asked what further he should do. > > > > Maharshi: Be what you are. There is nothing to come down or become > manifest. All that is needful is to lose the ego, That what is, is > always there. Even now you are That. You are not apart from it. The > blank is seen by you. You are there to see the blank. What do you wait > for? The thought " I have not seen, " the expectation to see and the > desire of getting something, are all the working of the ego. You have > fallen into the snares of the ego. The ego says all these and not you. > Be yourself and nothing more! > > > > Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi > > > > > > > > Prescriptions for the dead. > > > > toombaru treating infectious never-was. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> wrote: > > > > A gentleman from Bombay said: " I asked Mother in Sri Aurobindo > Ashram the following question: 'I keep my mind blank without thoughts > arising so that God might show Himself in His true Being. But I do not > perceive anything. " The reply was to this effect: 'The attitude is > right. The Power will come down from above. It is a direct > experience'. " So he asked what further he should do. > > > > Maharshi: Be what you are. There is nothing to come down or become > manifest. All that is needful is to lose the ego, That what is, is > always there. Even now you are That. You are not apart from it. The > blank is seen by you. You are there to see the blank. What do you wait > for? The thought " I have not seen, " the expectation to see and the > desire of getting something, are all the working of the ego. You have > fallen into the snares of the ego. The ego says all these and not you. > Be yourself and nothing more! > > > > Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi > > > > > > > > Prescriptions for the dead. > > > > toombaru > What? You still believe that these bromides will get you to a place that exists only in your own mind? You still believe that reading the words of some old dead guy will rearrange your world in a way that will open a door into another? You still believe that the right combination of concepts will come together just so....and you will be magically converted into something vast and...........big.........happy........and....... How long are you going to linger around the city dump.....searching for spare parts......to build an airplane? Leave you suitcase there.......turn around....come out here...... You can spend the time you have left in the country........ toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville wrote: > > A gentleman from Bombay said: " I asked Mother in Sri Aurobindo Ashram the following question: 'I keep my mind blank without thoughts arising so that God might show Himself in His true Being. But I do not perceive anything. " The reply was to this effect: 'The attitude is right. The Power will come down from above. It is a direct experience'. " So he asked what further he should do. > > Maharshi: Be what you are. There is nothing to come down or become manifest. All that is needful is to lose the ego, That what is, is always there. Even now you are That. You are not apart from it. The blank is seen by you. You are there to see the blank. What do you wait for? The thought " I have not seen, " the expectation to see and the desire of getting something, are all the working of the ego. You have fallen into the snares of the ego. The ego says all these and not you. Be yourself and nothing more! > > Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> wrote: > > > > > > A gentleman from Bombay said: " I asked Mother in Sri Aurobindo > > Ashram the following question: 'I keep my mind blank without thoughts > > arising so that God might show Himself in His true Being. But I do not > > perceive anything. " The reply was to this effect: 'The attitude is > > right. The Power will come down from above. It is a direct > > experience'. " So he asked what further he should do. > > > > > > Maharshi: Be what you are. There is nothing to come down or become > > manifest. All that is needful is to lose the ego, That what is, is > > always there. Even now you are That. You are not apart from it. The > > blank is seen by you. You are there to see the blank. What do you wait > > for? The thought " I have not seen, " the expectation to see and the > > desire of getting something, are all the working of the ego. You have > > fallen into the snares of the ego. The ego says all these and not you. > > Be yourself and nothing more! > > > > > > Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prescriptions for the dead. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > What? > > You still believe that these bromides will get you to a place that > exists only in your own mind? > > You still believe that reading the words of some old dead guy will > rearrange your world in a way that will open a door into another? > > You still believe that the right combination of concepts will come > together just so....and you will be magically converted into something > vast and...........big.........happy........and....... > > How long are you going to linger around the city dump.....searching > for spare parts......to build an airplane? > > Leave you suitcase there.......turn around....come out here...... > > You can spend the time you have left in the country........ > > > > toombaru what is the matter with you? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> wrote: > > > > > > > > A gentleman from Bombay said: " I asked Mother in Sri Aurobindo > > > Ashram the following question: 'I keep my mind blank without thoughts > > > arising so that God might show Himself in His true Being. But I do not > > > perceive anything. " The reply was to this effect: 'The attitude is > > > right. The Power will come down from above. It is a direct > > > experience'. " So he asked what further he should do. > > > > > > > > Maharshi: Be what you are. There is nothing to come down or become > > > manifest. All that is needful is to lose the ego, That what is, is > > > always there. Even now you are That. You are not apart from it. The > > > blank is seen by you. You are there to see the blank. What do you wait > > > for? The thought " I have not seen, " the expectation to see and the > > > desire of getting something, are all the working of the ego. You have > > > fallen into the snares of the ego. The ego says all these and not you. > > > Be yourself and nothing more! > > > > > > > > Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prescriptions for the dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > What? > > > > You still believe that these bromides will get you to a place that > > exists only in your own mind? > > > > You still believe that reading the words of some old dead guy will > > rearrange your world in a way that will open a door into another? > > > > You still believe that the right combination of concepts will come > > together just so....and you will be magically converted into something > > vast and...........big.........happy........and....... > > > > How long are you going to linger around the city dump.....searching > > for spare parts......to build an airplane? > > > > Leave you suitcase there.......turn around....come out here...... > > > > You can spend the time you have left in the country........ > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > what is the matter with you? > > .b b.b. that one's meant for myself and 'me'. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> > wrote: > > > > A gentleman from Bombay said: " I asked Mother in Sri Aurobindo > Ashram the following question: 'I keep my mind blank without > thoughts arising so that God might show Himself in His true Being. > But I do not perceive anything. " The reply was to this effect: 'The > attitude is right. The Power will come down from above. It is a > direct experience'. " So he asked what further he should do. > > > > Maharshi: Be what you are. There is nothing to come down or become > manifest. All that is needful is to lose the ego, That what is, is > always there. Even now you are That. You are not apart from it. The > blank is seen by you. You are there to see the blank. What do you > wait for? The thought " I have not seen, " the expectation to see and > the desire of getting something, are all the working of the ego. You > have fallen into the snares of the ego. The ego says all these and > not you. Be yourself and nothing more! > > > > Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> > > wrote: > > > > > > A gentleman from Bombay said: " I asked Mother in Sri Aurobindo > > Ashram the following question: 'I keep my mind blank without > > thoughts arising so that God might show Himself in His true Being. > > But I do not perceive anything. " The reply was to this effect: 'The > > attitude is right. The Power will come down from above. It is a > > direct experience'. " So he asked what further he should do. > > > > > > Maharshi: Be what you are. There is nothing to come down or become > > manifest. All that is needful is to lose the ego, That what is, is > > always there. Even now you are That. You are not apart from it. The > > blank is seen by you. You are there to see the blank. What do you > > wait for? The thought " I have not seen, " the expectation to see and > > the desire of getting something, are all the working of the ego. You > > have fallen into the snares of the ego. The ego says all these and > > not you. Be yourself and nothing more! > > > > > > Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> > > wrote: > > > > > > A gentleman from Bombay said: " I asked Mother in Sri Aurobindo > > Ashram the following question: 'I keep my mind blank without > > thoughts arising so that God might show Himself in His true Being. > > But I do not perceive anything. " The reply was to this effect: 'The > > attitude is right. The Power will come down from above. It is a > > direct experience'. " So he asked what further he should do. > > > > > > Maharshi: Be what you are. There is nothing to come down or become > > manifest. All that is needful is to lose the ego, That what is, is > > always there. Even now you are That. You are not apart from it. The > > blank is seen by you. You are there to see the blank. What do you > > wait for? The thought " I have not seen, " the expectation to see and > > the desire of getting something, are all the working of the ego. You > > have fallen into the snares of the ego. The ego says all these and > > not you. Be yourself and nothing more! > > > > > > Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> wrote: > > > > > > A gentleman from Bombay said: " I asked Mother in Sri Aurobindo > > Ashram the following question: 'I keep my mind blank without thoughts > > arising so that God might show Himself in His true Being. But I do not > > perceive anything. " The reply was to this effect: 'The attitude is > > right. The Power will come down from above. It is a direct > > experience'. " So he asked what further he should do. > > > > > > Maharshi: Be what you are. There is nothing to come down or become > > manifest. All that is needful is to lose the ego, That what is, is > > always there. Even now you are That. You are not apart from it. The > > blank is seen by you. You are there to see the blank. What do you wait > > for? The thought " I have not seen, " the expectation to see and the > > desire of getting something, are all the working of the ego. You have > > fallen into the snares of the ego. The ego says all these and not you. > > Be yourself and nothing more! > > > > > > Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prescriptions for the dead. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > treating infectious never-was. > > .b b.b. *** Not clear, not clarifying. In the context, Ramana was correct. *This* will address the self-contraction...that activity, in this case termed (or rather, translated) 'ego.' This is actually addressing itself-- who or what else? But no, you guys would rather misdirect the focus into your is/ain't game of debunking and one-upping each other. So what's that *activity* all about? Ken > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Grant " <g-ssummerville@> wrote: > > > > > > > > A gentleman from Bombay said: " I asked Mother in Sri Aurobindo > > > Ashram the following question: 'I keep my mind blank without thoughts > > > arising so that God might show Himself in His true Being. But I do not > > > perceive anything. " The reply was to this effect: 'The attitude is > > > right. The Power will come down from above. It is a direct > > > experience'. " So he asked what further he should do. > > > > > > > > Maharshi: Be what you are. There is nothing to come down or become > > > manifest. All that is needful is to lose the ego, That what is, is > > > always there. Even now you are That. You are not apart from it. The > > > blank is seen by you. You are there to see the blank. What do you wait > > > for? The thought " I have not seen, " the expectation to see and the > > > desire of getting something, are all the working of the ego. You have > > > fallen into the snares of the ego. The ego says all these and not you. > > > Be yourself and nothing more! > > > > > > > > Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prescriptions for the dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > treating infectious never-was. > > > > .b b.b. > > *** Not clear, not clarifying. > > In the context, Ramana was correct. *This* will > address the self-contraction...that activity, in > this case termed (or rather, translated) 'ego.' > > This is actually addressing itself-- who or what else? > > But no, you guys would rather misdirect the focus > into your is/ain't game of debunking and one-upping > each other. > > So what's that *activity* all about? > > Ken > > > Most teachers will ask those who come to them a few questions about what they understand concerning themselves...about the search etc....to determine what would be the best advise to offer. Those who are just beginning their search are quite often encouraged to go home and meditate. Those who have assimilated a deeper understanding are told to look deeply into the sense of I am or a similar exercise. When one has received the necessary information and still lingers in the trance....the teacher will sometimes tell them to leave. There comes a time....or not......in the search where an understanding occurs that that which it trying to escape is nothing other then the imaginary confinement. It has to be more then merely an intellectual understanding.....it has to percolate down through and infuse itself into the very being of the entity. Identification with a separate self looses its hold and the opacity of isolation decreases. There come ....or not.....the realization that any methodology undertaken by the illusory self to improve itself is merely spinning its wheels. Meditation will not help a group of thoughts (you) become something that exists only as a thought (enlightenment). Most seekers are just not ready to hear stuff like this.....They seek out teachers that sweeten the truth....and become addicted to the chemical rushes, the flashing lights and all those warm love feelings. Here's the real low down: That which you think you seek........will kill you. Nisargadatta was very potent.....and very few people went to sit with him.......No one would have sought him out......if he didn't water down what he knew. Any advise from a master offered to seekers is palliative care. Meditate if you are so inclined......and after you butt aches long enough....and you have enough ethereal euphorias (that you will try and try again to duplicate)....you will once again be as you once were. or............ well........I guess we will see.......... toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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