Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Balsekar--who is physically similar to J. Krishnamurti--says that he > would say that advaita can be summed up in one word--acceptance. I > suppose he means summed up so far as its effect on conduct goes.Of > course the question is begged:Who is going to do the accepting? But > Balsekar has probably heard that one before.It is strange he should > say this when he also says:Human beings are completely without free > will.Well, I guess he had to say both those things.Both those things > came out of his mouth. What could he do? > acceptance but then again he has no choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Balsekar--who is physically similar to J. Krishnamurti--says that he > would say that advaita can be summed up in one word--acceptance. I > suppose he means summed up so far as its effect on conduct goes.Of > course the question is begged:Who is going to do the accepting? But > Balsekar has probably heard that one before.It is strange he should > say this when he also says:Human beings are completely without free > will.Well, I guess he had to say both those things.Both those things > came out of his mouth. What could he do? > It all depends on what the individual thinks " acceptance " means. If Ramesh were to apply his statement to himself, he would see that he is not accepting the non-acceptance of those seekers who follow him. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Hur " <hurg wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Balsekar--who is physically similar to J. Krishnamurti--says that he > > would say that advaita can be summed up in one word--acceptance. I > > suppose he means summed up so far as its effect on conduct goes.Of > > course the question is begged:Who is going to do the accepting? But > > Balsekar has probably heard that one before.It is strange he should > > say this when he also says:Human beings are completely without free > > will.Well, I guess he had to say both those things.Both those things > > came out of his mouth. What could he do? > > > > acceptance but then again he has no choice. > Without choice........there is no self. Without self......there is no one to accept. With no one to accept.......there is nothing to accept. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 IS THIS A FORMULA? NO ME, TO ACCEPT NO ME, TO HEAR NO ME, TO WRITE NO ME, THEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING GIVING YOUR NO OPIONION?/ ON NOTHING, IS THIS ALWAYS YOUR ESCAPE?// Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " jeusisbuen@ wrote: > > > > Balsekar--who is physically similar to J. Krishnamurti--says that he > > would say that advaita can be summed up in one word--acceptance. I > > suppose he means summed up so far as its effect on conduct goes.Of > > course the question is begged:Who is going to do the accepting? But > > Balsekar has probably heard that one before.It is strange he should > > say this when he also says:Human beings are completely without free > > will.Well, I guess he had to say both those things.Both those things > > came out of his mouth. What could he do? > > > > > > It all depends on what the individual thinks " acceptance " means. > > If Ramesh were to apply his statement to himself, he would see that he > is not accepting the non-acceptance of those seekers who follow him. > > > > toombaru > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " juliusw007 " <juliusw007 wrote: > > IS THIS A FORMULA? NO ME, TO ACCEPT NO ME, TO HEAR NO ME, TO WRITE NO > ME, THEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING GIVING YOUR NO OPIONION?/ ON NOTHING, IS > THIS ALWAYS YOUR ESCAPE?// Calm down..............calm down. I merely point out the faulty reasoning offered to those who believe that they are the ones seeking...I allude to the fact that what they seek exists only as a concept.......and speak of the lunacy of offering methodologies to escape a prison that does not exist. If there were method to become awakened........don't you think that someone would have thought of it by now? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Balsekar--who is physically similar to J. Krishnamurti--says that he > would say that advaita can be summed up in one word--acceptance. I > suppose he means summed up so far as its effect on conduct goes.Of > course the question is begged:Who is going to do the accepting? But > Balsekar has probably heard that one before.It is strange he should > say this when he also says:Human beings are completely without free > will.Well, I guess he had to say both those things.Both those things > came out of his mouth. What could he do? non-duality....is about Acceptance..... the deepest inner wish.....which is same for every being......is happiness, peace, joy, love.........even if one isn't aware of this deppest " choice " .....one is running about.... some feel this inner " choice " .....and try to listen more and more to this deepest inner message it's no special and mysterious message....it's just about liberation....about natural being.....that's all during this inner path.....to oneSelf.....nobody else is involved in..... all this nice appearing world around......and all concerns about.......need to be Accepted......to follow peacefully....and without too much troubles....this described inner path the inner voice.....of liberation.....never come from " outside " .... so, to just be oneSelf.....there is no other choice....than to follow peacefully the path of liberation* the one who reach deepest happiness & peace.....don't see any other attitude/choice/wish.....than to " Accept " Wholeness of the appearing world.... Marc *with or without Guru.....nobody for real, who care about..... except the inner voice.....leading to liberation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " juliusw007 " <juliusw007@> wrote: > > > > IS THIS A FORMULA? NO ME, TO ACCEPT NO ME, TO HEAR NO ME, TO WRITE NO > > ME, THEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING GIVING YOUR NO OPIONION?/ ON NOTHING, IS > > THIS ALWAYS YOUR ESCAPE?// > > > > > Calm down..............calm down. > > > I merely point out the faulty reasoning offered to those who believe > that they are the ones seeking...I allude to the fact that what they > seek exists only as a concept.......and speak of the lunacy of > offering methodologies to escape a prison that does not exist. > > > If there were method to become awakened........don't you think that > someone would have thought of it by now? > toombaru wouldn't it be necessary for there to BE a 'someone' first in order for a 'someone' to have (already) thought of 'how' to awake? don't 'you' 'think' so? are you there? to whom are 'you' pointing out 'faulty reasoning'? 'who's' faulty reasoning? is the 'you' that " alludes to the fact that what they (others) seek exists only as a concept....... " ...are 'you'REAL? or are you phony too? and when the REAL or phony 'you' go on to say, " ..and speak of the lunacy of offering methodologies to escape a prison that does not exist. " ....is that phony or REAL 'you' 'speaking' from or within that same prison? if so why should anyone believe that 'you' are some special being in a non-prison as a non-existent, should have any sort of 'inside' information as to what the hell is really going on? who do you think 'you are? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " juliusw007 " <juliusw007@> wrote: > > > > > > IS THIS A FORMULA? NO ME, TO ACCEPT NO ME, TO HEAR NO ME, TO WRITE NO > > > ME, THEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING GIVING YOUR NO OPIONION?/ ON NOTHING, IS > > > THIS ALWAYS YOUR ESCAPE?// > > > > > > > > > > Calm down..............calm down. > > > > > > I merely point out the faulty reasoning offered to those who believe > > that they are the ones seeking...I allude to the fact that what they > > seek exists only as a concept.......and speak of the lunacy of > > offering methodologies to escape a prison that does not exist. > > > > > > If there were method to become awakened........don't you think that > > someone would have thought of it by now? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > wouldn't it be necessary for there to BE a 'someone' first in order > for a 'someone' to have (already) thought of 'how' to awake? > > don't 'you' 'think' so? > > are you there? > > to whom are 'you' pointing out 'faulty reasoning'? > > 'who's' faulty reasoning? > > is the 'you' that " alludes to the fact that what they (others) seek > exists only as a concept....... " ...are 'you'REAL? or are you phony too? > > and when the REAL or phony 'you' go on to say, " ..and speak of the > lunacy of offering methodologies to escape a prison that does not > exist. " ....is that phony or REAL 'you' 'speaking' from or within that > same prison? if so why should anyone believe that 'you' are some > special being in a non-prison as a non-existent, should have any sort > of 'inside' information as to what the hell is really going on? > > who do you think 'you are? > > > > .b b.b. > I am who I think I am. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " juliusw007 " <juliusw007@> wrote: > > > > > > > > IS THIS A FORMULA? NO ME, TO ACCEPT NO ME, TO HEAR NO ME, TO > WRITE NO > > > > ME, THEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING GIVING YOUR NO OPIONION?/ ON > NOTHING, IS > > > > THIS ALWAYS YOUR ESCAPE?// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Calm down..............calm down. > > > > > > > > > I merely point out the faulty reasoning offered to those who believe > > > that they are the ones seeking...I allude to the fact that what they > > > seek exists only as a concept.......and speak of the lunacy of > > > offering methodologies to escape a prison that does not exist. > > > > > > > > > If there were method to become awakened........don't you think that > > > someone would have thought of it by now? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > wouldn't it be necessary for there to BE a 'someone' first in order > > for a 'someone' to have (already) thought of 'how' to awake? > > > > don't 'you' 'think' so? > > > > are you there? > > > > to whom are 'you' pointing out 'faulty reasoning'? > > > > 'who's' faulty reasoning? > > > > is the 'you' that " alludes to the fact that what they (others) seek > > exists only as a concept....... " ...are 'you'REAL? or are you phony too? > > > > and when the REAL or phony 'you' go on to say, " ..and speak of the > > lunacy of offering methodologies to escape a prison that does not > > exist. " ....is that phony or REAL 'you' 'speaking' from or within that > > same prison? if so why should anyone believe that 'you' are some > > special being in a non-prison as a non-existent, should have any sort > > of 'inside' information as to what the hell is really going on? > > > > who do you think 'you are? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > I am who I think I am. > > > toombaru uttered balderdash! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 only in the dream,..there is only beingness..diana toombaru2006 <lastrain wrote: --- In Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " juliusw007 " <juliusw007@> wrote: > > > > > > IS THIS A FORMULA? NO ME, TO ACCEPT NO ME, TO HEAR NO ME, TO WRITE NO > > > ME, THEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING GIVING YOUR NO OPIONION?/ ON NOTHING, IS > > > THIS ALWAYS YOUR ESCAPE?// > > > > > > > > > > Calm down..............calm down. > > > > > > I merely point out the faulty reasoning offered to those who believe > > that they are the ones seeking...I allude to the fact that what they > > seek exists only as a concept.......and speak of the lunacy of > > offering methodologies to escape a prison that does not exist. > > > > > > If there were method to become awakened........don't you think that > > someone would have thought of it by now? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > wouldn't it be necessary for there to BE a 'someone' first in order > for a 'someone' to have (already) thought of 'how' to awake? > > don't 'you' 'think' so? > > are you there? > > to whom are 'you' pointing out 'faulty reasoning'? > > 'who's' faulty reasoning? > > is the 'you' that " alludes to the fact that what they (others) seek > exists only as a concept....... " ...are 'you'REAL? or are you phony too? > > and when the REAL or phony 'you' go on to say, " ..and speak of the > lunacy of offering methodologies to escape a prison that does not > exist. " ....is that phony or REAL 'you' 'speaking' from or within that > same prison? if so why should anyone believe that 'you' are some > special being in a non-prison as a non-existent, should have any sort > of 'inside' information as to what the hell is really going on? > > who do you think 'you are? > > > > .b b.b. > I am who I think I am. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " juliusw007 " <juliusw007@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > IS THIS A FORMULA? NO ME, TO ACCEPT NO ME, TO HEAR NO ME, TO > > WRITE NO > > > > > ME, THEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING GIVING YOUR NO OPIONION?/ ON > > NOTHING, IS > > > > > THIS ALWAYS YOUR ESCAPE?// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Calm down..............calm down. > > > > > > > > > > > > I merely point out the faulty reasoning offered to those who believe > > > > that they are the ones seeking...I allude to the fact that what they > > > > seek exists only as a concept.......and speak of the lunacy of > > > > offering methodologies to escape a prison that does not exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > If there were method to become awakened........don't you think that > > > > someone would have thought of it by now? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > wouldn't it be necessary for there to BE a 'someone' first in order > > > for a 'someone' to have (already) thought of 'how' to awake? > > > > > > don't 'you' 'think' so? > > > > > > are you there? > > > > > > to whom are 'you' pointing out 'faulty reasoning'? > > > > > > 'who's' faulty reasoning? > > > > > > is the 'you' that " alludes to the fact that what they (others) seek > > > exists only as a concept....... " ...are 'you'REAL? or are you phony > too? > > > > > > and when the REAL or phony 'you' go on to say, " ..and speak of the > > > lunacy of offering methodologies to escape a prison that does not > > > exist. " ....is that phony or REAL 'you' 'speaking' from or within that > > > same prison? if so why should anyone believe that 'you' are some > > > special being in a non-prison as a non-existent, should have any sort > > > of 'inside' information as to what the hell is really going on? > > > > > > who do you think 'you are? > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > I am who I think I am. > > > > > > toombaru > > > uttered balderdash! > > .b b.b. > I am different than I think I am? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " juliusw007 " <juliusw007@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > IS THIS A FORMULA? NO ME, TO ACCEPT NO ME, TO HEAR NO ME, TO > > > WRITE NO > > > > > > ME, THEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING GIVING YOUR NO OPIONION?/ ON > > > NOTHING, IS > > > > > > THIS ALWAYS YOUR ESCAPE?// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Calm down..............calm down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I merely point out the faulty reasoning offered to those who > believe > > > > > that they are the ones seeking...I allude to the fact that > what they > > > > > seek exists only as a concept.......and speak of the lunacy of > > > > > offering methodologies to escape a prison that does not exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there were method to become awakened........don't you think > that > > > > > someone would have thought of it by now? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't it be necessary for there to BE a 'someone' first in order > > > > for a 'someone' to have (already) thought of 'how' to awake? > > > > > > > > don't 'you' 'think' so? > > > > > > > > are you there? > > > > > > > > to whom are 'you' pointing out 'faulty reasoning'? > > > > > > > > 'who's' faulty reasoning? > > > > > > > > is the 'you' that " alludes to the fact that what they (others) seek > > > > exists only as a concept....... " ...are 'you'REAL? or are you phony > > too? > > > > > > > > and when the REAL or phony 'you' go on to say, " ..and speak of the > > > > lunacy of offering methodologies to escape a prison that does not > > > > exist. " ....is that phony or REAL 'you' 'speaking' from or within > that > > > > same prison? if so why should anyone believe that 'you' are some > > > > special being in a non-prison as a non-existent, should have any > sort > > > > of 'inside' information as to what the hell is really going on? > > > > > > > > who do you think 'you are? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am who I think I am. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > uttered balderdash! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > I am different than I think I am? > > > toombaru 'your' thinking is irrelevant and digressive. nothing is 'different'. nothing is the 'same'. there are no separate idea-tions nor substantive 'things' to compare. 'you' can't 'do' anything. and whoever the imaginary phantom 'thinks' 'it's' 'me' is.. is inapplicable, immaterial, and frankly unsuitable to Actuality. there are no 'me-s' or 'i-s' there are no objects period...no matter how seemingly abstract. you are confued with 'thinking - thinker - thought' and this is understandable. most find 'themselves' caught in the snares of 'believing' and 'thinking', and without realizing the catching in the rye is the very thing that wants to talk through 'you'...and 'it' succeeds. you see... the catching believes what it's thinking. the catching thinks what it's believing. the catching claims to know who it is. 'it' believes so. 'it' thinks so. asks silly questions like 'am i different than what i think i am?'. and hundreds of millions of wind swept grains wave and whisper windward......... and not one can catch the wind. in the rye field with Corvus ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 > > > 'your' thinking is irrelevant and digressive. > > nothing is 'different'. > > nothing is the 'same'. > > there are no separate idea-tions nor substantive 'things' to compare. > > 'you' can't 'do' anything. > > and whoever the imaginary phantom 'thinks' 'it's' 'me' is.. > > is inapplicable, immaterial, and frankly unsuitable to Actuality. > > there are no 'me-s' or 'i-s' > > there are no objects period...no matter how seemingly abstract. > > you are confued with 'thinking - thinker - thought' and this is > > understandable. > > most find 'themselves' caught in the snares of 'believing' and > > 'thinking', and without realizing the catching in the rye is the very > > thing that wants to talk through 'you'...and 'it' succeeds. > > you see... > > the catching believes what it's thinking. > > the catching thinks what it's believing. > > the catching claims to know who it is. > > 'it' believes so. > > 'it' thinks so. > > asks silly questions like 'am i different than what i think i am?'. > > and hundreds of millions of wind swept grains wave and whisper > > windward......... > > and not one can catch the wind. > > in the rye field with Corvus > > .b b.b. > Who you talkin to Willis? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > 'your' thinking is irrelevant and digressive. > > > > nothing is 'different'. > > > > nothing is the 'same'. > > > > there are no separate idea-tions nor substantive 'things' to compare. > > > > 'you' can't 'do' anything. > > > > and whoever the imaginary phantom 'thinks' 'it's' 'me' is.. > > > > is inapplicable, immaterial, and frankly unsuitable to Actuality. > > > > there are no 'me-s' or 'i-s' > > > > there are no objects period...no matter how seemingly abstract. > > > > you are confued with 'thinking - thinker - thought' and this is > > > > understandable. > > > > most find 'themselves' caught in the snares of 'believing' and > > > > 'thinking', and without realizing the catching in the rye is the very > > > > thing that wants to talk through 'you'...and 'it' succeeds. > > > > you see... > > > > the catching believes what it's thinking. > > > > the catching thinks what it's believing. > > > > the catching claims to know who it is. > > > > 'it' believes so. > > > > 'it' thinks so. > > > > asks silly questions like 'am i different than what i think i am?'. > > > > and hundreds of millions of wind swept grains wave and whisper > > > > windward......... > > > > and not one can catch the wind. > > > > in the rye field with Corvus > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Who you talkin to Willis? > > > > toombaru curiosity is a favorite pastime of cats too. any answer would be a lie. any lie could be an answer. i won't play games. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'your' thinking is irrelevant and digressive. > > > > > > nothing is 'different'. > > > > > > nothing is the 'same'. > > > > > > there are no separate idea-tions nor substantive 'things' to compare. > > > > > > 'you' can't 'do' anything. > > > > > > and whoever the imaginary phantom 'thinks' 'it's' 'me' is.. > > > > > > is inapplicable, immaterial, and frankly unsuitable to Actuality. > > > > > > there are no 'me-s' or 'i-s' > > > > > > there are no objects period...no matter how seemingly abstract. > > > > > > you are confued with 'thinking - thinker - thought' and this is > > > > > > understandable. > > > > > > most find 'themselves' caught in the snares of 'believing' and > > > > > > 'thinking', and without realizing the catching in the rye is the very > > > > > > thing that wants to talk through 'you'...and 'it' succeeds. > > > > > > you see... > > > > > > the catching believes what it's thinking. > > > > > > the catching thinks what it's believing. > > > > > > the catching claims to know who it is. > > > > > > 'it' believes so. > > > > > > 'it' thinks so. > > > > > > asks silly questions like 'am i different than what i think i am?'. > > > > > > and hundreds of millions of wind swept grains wave and whisper > > > > > > windward......... > > > > > > and not one can catch the wind. > > > > > > in the rye field with Corvus > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Who you talkin to Willis? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > curiosity is a favorite pastime of cats too. > > any answer would be a lie. > > any lie could be an answer. > > i won't play games. > > .b b.b. > Who are you talking to?!!!!!!!!!! toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 > > > Who are you talking to?!!!!!!!!!! > > > toombaru > If it dawns..........to whom you speak..........you will have the keys to the kingdom. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'your' thinking is irrelevant and digressive. > > > > > > > > nothing is 'different'. > > > > > > > > nothing is the 'same'. > > > > > > > > there are no separate idea-tions nor substantive 'things' to > compare. > > > > > > > > 'you' can't 'do' anything. > > > > > > > > and whoever the imaginary phantom 'thinks' 'it's' 'me' is.. > > > > > > > > is inapplicable, immaterial, and frankly unsuitable to Actuality. > > > > > > > > there are no 'me-s' or 'i-s' > > > > > > > > there are no objects period...no matter how seemingly abstract. > > > > > > > > you are confued with 'thinking - thinker - thought' and this is > > > > > > > > understandable. > > > > > > > > most find 'themselves' caught in the snares of 'believing' and > > > > > > > > 'thinking', and without realizing the catching in the rye is the > very > > > > > > > > thing that wants to talk through 'you'...and 'it' succeeds. > > > > > > > > you see... > > > > > > > > the catching believes what it's thinking. > > > > > > > > the catching thinks what it's believing. > > > > > > > > the catching claims to know who it is. > > > > > > > > 'it' believes so. > > > > > > > > 'it' thinks so. > > > > > > > > asks silly questions like 'am i different than what i think i am?'. > > > > > > > > and hundreds of millions of wind swept grains wave and whisper > > > > > > > > windward......... > > > > > > > > and not one can catch the wind. > > > > > > > > in the rye field with Corvus > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who you talkin to Willis? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > curiosity is a favorite pastime of cats too. > > > > any answer would be a lie. > > > > any lie could be an answer. > > > > i won't play games. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Who are you talking to?!!!!!!!!!! > > > toombaru my you are excitable. easy now...remember...remember... there is no one to talk to from the first. there is nothing to say. i could care less what your wants of me are. there is only one who concerns me... one that i talk to... one that listens. and that one is no one in particular or in general. it's a beautiful thing. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > Who are you talking to?!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > If it dawns..........to whom you speak..........you will have the keys > to the kingdom. > > > > toombaru been there...done that... ok for a visit and a vacation. when you grow beyond that diversion let me know. i'll show you a place where kingdoms are irrelevant and rather boring. the REAL DEAL. ..b bobji baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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