Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 [...] > What about changing the outlook from > 'achieving' the goal to simply 'serving' the > purpose and intent? > > Difference is that in our thoughts of > wanting to achieve goals; we make > assumption that it is all within our > control. But, in simple intention to > serve purpose; we make no such assumption. > > > In our want to achieve goal; we > consider achieving the goal as our > responsibility. In serving, we limit > our personal responsibility to true, > noble intentions alone. When goal is to help promote compassion, kindness, peace, love, happiness, abundance, beauty, growth, learning, education and health. . . we are only responsible for serving the causes of compassion, kindness, beauty, peace, love, happiness, growth, abundance, excellence, elegance. . . internally and externally. . . not really for 'achieving' any of these! For we know that, achieving anything [especially something as grand and as eternal as this] is never entirely in our control and as a consequence of not being entirely in our control, it is also not our responsibility. We plant the seed, we give it water. . . but sprouting of a plant and its flowering, fruit-ation is governed by the *law of nature* Alone! And, the law of nature along with the fertility of the land and many known/unknown other things make it happen [if it happen], the way it happens and when it happens. All we are ever responsible for at our end is for observing and learning these natural laws and, once learned, for serving them. Natural laws and *natural causes* which are already operational and in place, in they end, are the ONLY Ones who govern each happening and make sure that what happens. . . happen and what doesn't happen. . . doesn't. Our responsibility is limited simply to observe and serve them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 [...] > good.. > > now... > > don't get too attached to: > > a false belief in mr. hawkins' false beliefs. I use Dr. Hawkins's LOC map mostly to SEE what actions and thoughts are motivated by Compassion, Kindness, Joy, Love and Reason what actions and thoughts are motivated by reactivity, shame, guilt, greed, anger or fear. I find actions and thoughts of first kind peaceful, empowering and worth 'serving'. I find the actions and thoughts of second kind destructive and painful. When possible, I strive to " serve " Compassion, Forgiveness, Love and Reason by choosing Courage over fear, greed and guilt. When I do choose greed or fear, I usually don't mind the 'pain' that comes immediately and more of which usually results in future. I have come to see that greed, guilt and fear are themselves a form of Pain and they usually work to create more pain for me and others. I have come to see the affect of emotions as part of the Natural Laws like the laws of Gravity. Like Gravity, the emotions of fear, guilt and greed and Forgiveness, Love and Peace too simply work irrespective of my like and dislike, my approval or disapproval of them. All I can and need to do is to... be Aware of them and choose to " serve " the peaceful, ennobling emotions. I have come to see that it is foolish to not expect Pain when I think and act under greed, guilt, pride or fear. These are the emotions of pain and pain is their natural result. My agreement or disagreement with this law doesn't really change its reality. > > ---- > Dr. Hawkins LOC chart: > > < http://tinyurl.com/2vr837 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [...] > > > good.. > > > > now... > > > > don't get too attached to: > > > > a false belief in mr. hawkins' false beliefs. > > > > > I use Dr. Hawkins's LOC map mostly > to SEE what actions and thoughts are > motivated by Compassion, Kindness, > Joy, Love and Reason what actions > and thoughts are motivated by reactivity, > shame, guilt, greed, anger or fear. motivated? who so motivates? explain what are: compassion, kindness, joy, love and reason' once the 'what' of those are determined explain: by who's standards and judgements are these judged as such. > I find actions and thoughts > of first kind peaceful, empowering and worth > 'serving'. serving? perhaps they are served up by the supposed server in actuality. > I find the actions and thoughts of > second kind destructive and painful. destructive in what way? painful as opposed to? > When possible, I strive to " serve " > Compassion, Forgiveness, Love and Reason > by choosing Courage over fear, greed > and guilt. > if you gave up the idea that you are effecting.. or being affected by any of that.. where would there be need of courage? fear, greed, guilt would be unmade without the false belief in such. > When I do choose greed or fear, I usually > don't mind the 'pain' that comes > immediately and more of which usually > results in future. I have come to see that > greed, guilt and fear are themselves a form > of Pain and they usually work to create more > pain for me and others. you choose nothing. you are chosen. you have no say in any of it. no one does or ever will. the 'pain' is illusory as well as the idea of your being 'at cause'. > > > I have come to see the affect of emotions > as part of the Natural Laws like the laws > of Gravity. Like Gravity, the emotions of > fear, guilt and greed and Forgiveness, > Love and Peace too simply work > irrespective of my like and dislike, my > approval or disapproval of them. All > I can and need to do is to... be Aware of > them and choose to " serve " the peaceful, > ennobling emotions. gravity exists in space. does space also exist in gravity? gravity is ground. any speculation on ground truth is nothing but speculation. gravity doesn't care about misty emotions nor courage or fear. it does not 'work'. it IS period. there is neither nobleness nor denegration in truth. > I have come to see > that it is foolish to not expect Pain when > I think and act under greed, guilt, pride or fear. > These are the emotions of pain and pain is > their natural result. My agreement or > disagreement with this law doesn't really > change its reality. absolutely! pain can also come with the direct opposite of your ideas on it's causes. to believe that choosing one 'way' over another is delusion 1. delusion 2 is that acting holy will save 'you' from pain. just as your agreement or disagreement with ANY law changes nothing, so too 'results' or 'judgements' on their wherefores and whys.. changes nothing. your opinions or mine mean nothing to what's what. to believe otherwise is misplaced conceit and ignorant of tghe world as it is. Dr. .b b.b. > > ---- > > Dr. Hawkins LOC chart: > > > > < http://tinyurl.com/2vr837 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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