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> What about changing the outlook from

> 'achieving' the goal to simply 'serving' the

> purpose and intent?

>

> Difference is that in our thoughts of

> wanting to achieve goals; we make

> assumption that it is all within our

> control. But, in simple intention to

> serve purpose; we make no such assumption.

>

>

> In our want to achieve goal; we

> consider achieving the goal as our

> responsibility. In serving, we limit

> our personal responsibility to true,

> noble intentions alone.

 

 

When goal is to help promote

compassion, kindness, peace, love,

happiness, abundance, beauty, growth,

learning, education and health. . .

 

we are only responsible for

serving the causes of compassion,

kindness, beauty, peace, love,

happiness, growth, abundance,

excellence, elegance. . . internally and externally. . .

 

not really for 'achieving' any of these!

 

 

 

For we know that, achieving anything

[especially something as grand and

as eternal as this] is never entirely in

our control and as a consequence of

not being entirely in our control, it is

also not our responsibility.

 

 

 

We plant the seed, we give it water. . .

 

but sprouting of a plant

and its flowering, fruit-ation is

governed by the *law of nature* Alone!

 

And, the law of nature along with the

fertility of the land and many known/unknown

other things make it happen [if it happen],

the way it happens and when it happens.

 

 

All we are ever responsible for at our end is

for observing and learning these natural laws

and, once learned, for serving them.

 

Natural laws and *natural causes* which are

already operational and in place, in they end, are

the ONLY Ones who govern each happening and

make sure that what happens. . . happen and what

doesn't happen. . . doesn't. Our responsibility is

limited simply to observe and serve them.

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> good..

>

> now...

>

> don't get too attached to:

>

> a false belief in mr. hawkins' false beliefs.

 

 

 

 

I use Dr. Hawkins's LOC map mostly

to SEE what actions and thoughts are

motivated by Compassion, Kindness,

Joy, Love and Reason what actions

and thoughts are motivated by reactivity,

shame, guilt, greed, anger or fear.

 

I find actions and thoughts

of first kind peaceful, empowering and worth

'serving'. I find the actions and thoughts of

second kind destructive and painful.

 

When possible, I strive to " serve "

Compassion, Forgiveness, Love and Reason

by choosing Courage over fear, greed

and guilt.

 

When I do choose greed or fear, I usually

don't mind the 'pain' that comes

immediately and more of which usually

results in future. I have come to see that

greed, guilt and fear are themselves a form

of Pain and they usually work to create more

pain for me and others.

 

 

I have come to see the affect of emotions

as part of the Natural Laws like the laws

of Gravity. Like Gravity, the emotions of

fear, guilt and greed and Forgiveness,

Love and Peace too simply work

irrespective of my like and dislike, my

approval or disapproval of them. All

I can and need to do is to... be Aware of

them and choose to " serve " the peaceful,

ennobling emotions.

 

I have come to see

that it is foolish to not expect Pain when

I think and act under greed, guilt, pride or fear.

These are the emotions of pain and pain is

their natural result. My agreement or

disagreement with this law doesn't really

change its reality.

 

 

 

>

> ----

> Dr. Hawkins LOC chart:

>

> < http://tinyurl.com/2vr837 >

>

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming wrote:

>

> [...]

>

> > good..

> >

> > now...

> >

> > don't get too attached to:

> >

> > a false belief in mr. hawkins' false beliefs.

>

>

>

>

> I use Dr. Hawkins's LOC map mostly

> to SEE what actions and thoughts are

> motivated by Compassion, Kindness,

> Joy, Love and Reason what actions

> and thoughts are motivated by reactivity,

> shame, guilt, greed, anger or fear.

 

 

 

 

motivated?

 

who so motivates?

 

explain what are:

 

compassion, kindness, joy, love and reason'

 

once the 'what' of those are determined explain:

 

by who's standards and judgements are these judged as such.

 

 

 

 

 

> I find actions and thoughts

> of first kind peaceful, empowering and worth

> 'serving'.

 

 

 

 

serving?

 

perhaps they are served up by the supposed server in actuality.

 

 

 

 

> I find the actions and thoughts of

> second kind destructive and painful.

 

 

 

destructive in what way?

 

painful as opposed to?

 

 

 

> When possible, I strive to " serve "

> Compassion, Forgiveness, Love and Reason

> by choosing Courage over fear, greed

> and guilt.

>

 

if you gave up the idea that you are effecting..

 

or being affected by any of that..

 

where would there be need of courage?

 

fear, greed, guilt would be unmade without the false belief in such.

 

 

 

 

 

> When I do choose greed or fear, I usually

> don't mind the 'pain' that comes

> immediately and more of which usually

> results in future. I have come to see that

> greed, guilt and fear are themselves a form

> of Pain and they usually work to create more

> pain for me and others.

 

 

 

 

 

 

you choose nothing.

 

you are chosen.

 

you have no say in any of it.

 

no one does or ever will.

 

the 'pain' is illusory as well as the idea of your being 'at cause'.

 

 

 

 

>

>

> I have come to see the affect of emotions

> as part of the Natural Laws like the laws

> of Gravity. Like Gravity, the emotions of

> fear, guilt and greed and Forgiveness,

> Love and Peace too simply work

> irrespective of my like and dislike, my

> approval or disapproval of them. All

> I can and need to do is to... be Aware of

> them and choose to " serve " the peaceful,

> ennobling emotions.

 

 

 

gravity exists in space.

 

does space also exist in gravity?

 

gravity is ground.

 

any speculation on ground truth is nothing but speculation.

 

gravity doesn't care about misty emotions nor courage or fear.

 

it does not 'work'.

 

it IS period.

 

there is neither nobleness nor denegration in truth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

> I have come to see

> that it is foolish to not expect Pain when

> I think and act under greed, guilt, pride or fear.

> These are the emotions of pain and pain is

> their natural result. My agreement or

> disagreement with this law doesn't really

> change its reality.

 

 

absolutely!

 

pain can also come with the direct opposite of your ideas on it's

 

causes.

 

to believe that choosing one 'way' over another is delusion 1.

 

delusion 2 is that acting holy will save 'you' from pain.

 

just as your agreement or disagreement with ANY law changes nothing,

 

so too 'results' or 'judgements' on their wherefores and whys..

 

changes nothing.

 

your opinions or mine mean nothing to what's what.

 

to believe otherwise is misplaced conceit and ignorant of tghe world

 

as it is.

 

 

Dr. .b b.b.

 

 

 

 

 

> > ----

> > Dr. Hawkins LOC chart:

> >

> > < http://tinyurl.com/2vr837 >

> >

>

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