Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 I'm the worse for it. I have all these questions but they never seem to get answered to my satisfaction, and even when they do, I kind of forget after a few months. Nis said: All you need is a quite mind He also said something about not telling everyone, that it's all to easy to destroy the little you have gained by pride. When I go to bed every night, I read Nisargadatta as an anti-dote to any rubbish I might have heard during the day. Then I close my eyes and stay with the sense I am. Usually I forget and fall asleep, but then, I remmber that Nis said we like sleep because that sense of I am is not there. Hmmm. I'm going to bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " <jason.dedonno wrote: > > I'm the worse for it. I have all these questions but they never seem > to get answered to my satisfaction, and even when they do, I kind of > forget after a few months. > > Nis said: All you need is a quite mind > > He also said something about not telling everyone, that it's all to > easy to destroy the little you have gained by pride. > > When I go to bed every night, I read Nisargadatta as an anti-dote to > any rubbish I might have heard during the day. Then I close my eyes > and stay with the sense I am. Usually I forget and fall asleep, but > then, I remmber that Nis said we like sleep because that sense of I am > is not there. > > Hmmm. > > I'm going to bed. > questions are not to be answered but to be gone into back back to wherefrom they sprout Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " > <jason.dedonno@> wrote: > > > > I'm the worse for it. I have all these questions but they never seem > > to get answered to my satisfaction, and even when they do, I kind of > > forget after a few months. > > > > Nis said: All you need is a quite mind > > > > He also said something about not telling everyone, that it's all to > > easy to destroy the little you have gained by pride. > > > > When I go to bed every night, I read Nisargadatta as an anti-dote to > > any rubbish I might have heard during the day. Then I close my eyes > > and stay with the sense I am. Usually I forget and fall asleep, but > > then, I remmber that Nis said we like sleep because that sense of I am > > is not there. > > > > Hmmm. > > > > I'm going to bed. > > > > questions are not to be answered > but to be gone into > back back > to wherefrom they sprout > > > Bill > Questions are the itch of a dimly remembered innocence. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " > > <jason.dedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm the worse for it. I have all these questions but they never seem > > > to get answered to my satisfaction, and even when they do, I kind of > > > forget after a few months. > > > > > > Nis said: All you need is a quite mind > > > > > > He also said something about not telling everyone, that it's all to > > > easy to destroy the little you have gained by pride. > > > > > > When I go to bed every night, I read Nisargadatta as an anti-dote to > > > any rubbish I might have heard during the day. Then I close my eyes > > > and stay with the sense I am. Usually I forget and fall asleep, but > > > then, I remmber that Nis said we like sleep because that sense of > I am > > > is not there. > > > > > > Hmmm. > > > > > > I'm going to bed. > > > > > > > questions are not to be answered > > but to be gone into > > back back > > to wherefrom they sprout > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > Questions are the itch of a dimly remembered innocence. > > > toombaru questions are the very answers they seek answer to. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " > > <jason.dedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm the worse for it. I have all these questions but they never seem > > > to get answered to my satisfaction, and even when they do, I kind of > > > forget after a few months. > > > > > > Nis said: All you need is a quite mind > > > > > > He also said something about not telling everyone, that it's all to > > > easy to destroy the little you have gained by pride. > > > > > > When I go to bed every night, I read Nisargadatta as an anti-dote to > > > any rubbish I might have heard during the day. Then I close my eyes > > > and stay with the sense I am. Usually I forget and fall asleep, but > > > then, I remmber that Nis said we like sleep because that sense of > I am > > > is not there. > > > > > > Hmmm. > > > > > > I'm going to bed. > > > > > > > questions are not to be answered > > but to be gone into > > back back > > to wherefrom they sprout > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > Questions are the itch of a dimly remembered innocence. > > > toombaru > Ha!! I like that, but does the itch pertain to innocence or the dimness? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " <jason.dedonno wrote: > > I'm the worse for it. I have all these questions but they never seem > to get answered to my satisfaction, and even when they do, I kind of > forget after a few months. > > Nis said: All you need is a quite mind > > He also said something about not telling everyone, that it's all to > easy to destroy the little you have gained by pride. > > When I go to bed every night, I read Nisargadatta as an anti-dote to > any rubbish I might have heard during the day. Then I close my eyes > and stay with the sense I am. Usually I forget and fall asleep, but > then, I remmber that Nis said we like sleep because that sense of I am > is not there. > > Hmmm. > > I'm going to bed. >Reading Nis or any other teacher is like listening to music--you have to be in a certain frame of mind for it to do you any good.It is like eating when you are not hungry otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " <jason.dedonno wrote: > > I'm the worse for it. I have all these questions but they never seem > to get answered to my satisfaction, and even when they do, I kind of > forget after a few months. > > Nis said: All you need is a quite mind > > He also said something about not telling everyone, that it's all to > easy to destroy the little you have gained by pride. > > When I go to bed every night, I read Nisargadatta as an anti-dote to > any rubbish I might have heard during the day. Then I close my eyes > and stay with the sense I am. Usually I forget and fall asleep, but > then, I remmber that Nis said we like sleep because that sense of I am > is not there. > > Hmmm. > > I'm going to bed. > For You Jason, with Love, Anna Questions For A Friday if nothing is real does reality exist in nothing and no one can infinity stretch beyond itself? do questions answer themselves or the one who asks? where does time go when all we have is now? who loves the Lover when there is no such thing as anything that is unlike itself? what was the question that is the most important has it been asked? and just who in heaven or hell earth or sky shall answer, tongues of fire, burning away what Is. if nothing is real does reality exist in nothing and no one? can infinity stretch beyond itself? do questions answer themselves or the one who asks? where does time go when all we have is now? who loves the Lover when there is no such thing as anything that is unlike itself? what was the question that is the most important, has it been asked? and just who in heaven or hell earth or sky shall answer? tongues of fire, burning away what Is. It All Comes Together It all comes together in this one moment, this one moment, pure of intention, sans distinction sans prejudice sans solace sans rancor the perfection, overwhelming senses, undermining thoughts Look! Shooting stars ...... everywhere! Look! Everything is ...... Enlightened! Look! Everyone ...... is in Love! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " > > <jason.dedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm the worse for it. I have all these questions but they never seem > > > to get answered to my satisfaction, and even when they do, I kind of > > > forget after a few months. > > > > > > Nis said: All you need is a quite mind > > > > > > He also said something about not telling everyone, that it's all to > > > easy to destroy the little you have gained by pride. > > > > > > When I go to bed every night, I read Nisargadatta as an anti- dote to > > > any rubbish I might have heard during the day. Then I close my eyes > > > and stay with the sense I am. Usually I forget and fall asleep, but > > > then, I remmber that Nis said we like sleep because that sense of > I am > > > is not there. > > > > > > Hmmm. > > > > > > I'm going to bed. > > > > > > > questions are not to be answered > > but to be gone into > > back back > > to wherefrom they sprout > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > Questions are the itch of a dimly remembered innocence. > > > toombaru > ***************************** To question is proof that you have not understood and that you are still searching. Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " > <jason.dedonno@> wrote: > > > > I'm the worse for it. I have all these questions but they never > seem > > to get answered to my satisfaction, and even when they do, I kind > of > > forget after a few months. > > > > Nis said: All you need is a quite mind > > > > He also said something about not telling everyone, that it's all > to > > easy to destroy the little you have gained by pride. > > > > When I go to bed every night, I read Nisargadatta as an anti-dote > to > > any rubbish I might have heard during the day. Then I close my > eyes > > and stay with the sense I am. Usually I forget and fall asleep, > but > > then, I remmber that Nis said we like sleep because that sense of > I am > > is not there. > > > > Hmmm. > > > > I'm going to bed. > >Reading Nis or any other teacher is like listening to music--you > have to be in a certain frame of mind for it to do you any good.It > is like eating when you are not hungry otherwise. > *************************** When I read the words of others, no matter who's, yours or Nizargadatta's or even my own words, it's like I'm chewing on their (or my) vomit. If you like that kind of thing, hey, knock yourself out. Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 > Reading Nis or any other teacher is like listening to music--you > have to be in a certain frame of mind for it to do you any good.It > is like eating when you are not hungry otherwise. I find I'm always in that frame of mind before I go to bed :-). Have done this for the last six months. I read the same stuff over and over again - mostly from the Ultimate Medicine. And then I meditate. I've got Siddharameshwar's book now too. What a gem. Howvere, Nis had to appear in one of my dreams once, to warn be about the dangers of getting attached to his words, and him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 > For You Jason, > with Love, Anna Thanks Anna :-)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 > When I read the words of others, no matter who's, yours or > Nizargadatta's or even my own words, it's like I'm chewing on their > (or my) vomit. When I found Nisargadatta's I Am That, in a box in a corner of a second hand book shop, many years ago, I was searching for something. I didn't even know what I was searching for when I went in ther. Some kind of magic book, I guess. Funnily enough I found it. Miracles do sometimes happen. Words, as Nisargadatta said, are all there is to express it. I'm glad for Nisargadatta's words, and when I read his notes in " Master of Self- Realisation " , it makes me realise how earnest he was, and how diligent he listened to his master's words, Siddharameshwar. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Silver " <silver wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " > > > <jason.dedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm the worse for it. I have all these questions but they never > seem > > > > to get answered to my satisfaction, and even when they do, I > kind of > > > > forget after a few months. > > > > > > > > Nis said: All you need is a quite mind > > > > > > > > He also said something about not telling everyone, that it's > all to > > > > easy to destroy the little you have gained by pride. > > > > > > > > When I go to bed every night, I read Nisargadatta as an anti- > dote to > > > > any rubbish I might have heard during the day. Then I close my > eyes > > > > and stay with the sense I am. Usually I forget and fall asleep, > but > > > > then, I remmber that Nis said we like sleep because that sense > of > > I am > > > > is not there. > > > > > > > > Hmmm. > > > > > > > > I'm going to bed. > > > > > > > > > > questions are not to be answered > > > but to be gone into > > > back back > > > to wherefrom they sprout > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > Questions are the itch of a dimly remembered innocence. > > > > > > toombaru > > > ***************************** > To question is proof that you have not understood and that you are > still searching. > > Silver > To know that you are the searching......removes the floor. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " <jason.dedonno wrote: > > > When I read the words of others, no matter who's, yours or > > Nizargadatta's or even my own words, it's like I'm chewing on their > > (or my) vomit. > > When I found Nisargadatta's I Am That, in a box in a corner of a > second hand book shop, many years ago, I was searching for something. > I didn't even know what I was searching for when I went in ther. Some > kind of magic book, I guess. Funnily enough I found it. Miracles do > sometimes happen. > > Words, as Nisargadatta said, are all there is to express it. I'm glad > for Nisargadatta's words, and when I read his notes in " Master of Self- > Realisation " , it makes me realise how earnest he was, and how diligent > he listened to his master's words, Siddharameshwar. > > Jason > *************************** Hi Jason, Good to meet you. Yes, I was also very grateful of finding Nizargadatta. Or rather, it was the other way around. He found me. Well, not Niz, actually. What found me were his words. Well, that's not exactly true, either. His words didn't find me; the words of one of his students did. Actually, it was an english translation of the spoken words of Niz. More accurately, it was a translation of Niz's words approved for publication by Niz himself that found me. That's pretty funny, considering Niz was no master of the English language. How could he have approved a translation of his words then? Can you figure that out? Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Silver " <silver@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " > > > > <jason.dedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm the worse for it. I have all these questions but they never > > seem > > > > > to get answered to my satisfaction, and even when they do, I > > kind of > > > > > forget after a few months. > > > > > > > > > > Nis said: All you need is a quite mind > > > > > > > > > > He also said something about not telling everyone, that it's > > all to > > > > > easy to destroy the little you have gained by pride. > > > > > > > > > > When I go to bed every night, I read Nisargadatta as an anti- > > dote to > > > > > any rubbish I might have heard during the day. Then I close my > > eyes > > > > > and stay with the sense I am. Usually I forget and fall asleep, > > but > > > > > then, I remmber that Nis said we like sleep because that sense > > of > > > I am > > > > > is not there. > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm. > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to bed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > questions are not to be answered > > > > but to be gone into > > > > back back > > > > to wherefrom they sprout > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Questions are the itch of a dimly remembered innocence. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > ***************************** > > To question is proof that you have not understood and that you are > > still searching. > > > > Silver > > > > > To know that you are the searching......removes the floor. > > > toombaru > ************************** And it is then that you discover your wings. Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Silver " <silver@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " > > > > <jason.dedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm the worse for it. I have all these questions but they never > > seem > > > > > to get answered to my satisfaction, and even when they do, I > > kind of > > > > > forget after a few months. > > > > > > > > > > Nis said: All you need is a quite mind > > > > > > > > > > He also said something about not telling everyone, that it's > > all to > > > > > easy to destroy the little you have gained by pride. > > > > > > > > > > When I go to bed every night, I read Nisargadatta as an anti- > > dote to > > > > > any rubbish I might have heard during the day. Then I close my > > eyes > > > > > and stay with the sense I am. Usually I forget and fall asleep, > > but > > > > > then, I remmber that Nis said we like sleep because that sense > > of > > > I am > > > > > is not there. > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm. > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to bed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > questions are not to be answered > > > > but to be gone into > > > > back back > > > > to wherefrom they sprout > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Questions are the itch of a dimly remembered innocence. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > ***************************** > > To question is proof that you have not understood and that you are > > still searching. > > > > Silver > > > > > To know that you are the searching......removes the floor. > > > toombaru ' to know what the floor is...removes the searching. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " > <jason.dedonno@> wrote: > > > > > Reading Nis or any other teacher is like listening to music--you > > > have to be in a certain frame of mind for it to do you any good.It > > > is like eating when you are not hungry otherwise. > > > > I find I'm always in that frame of mind before I go to bed :-). Have > > done this for the last six months. I read the same stuff over and over > > again - mostly from the Ultimate Medicine. And then I meditate. > > > > I've got Siddharameshwar's book now too. What a gem. Howvere, Nis had > > to appear in one of my dreams once, to warn be about the dangers of > > getting attached to his words, and him. > > > > > The River Niz flowed into your life because you were > ready......Everything is leaning towards you.....lifting you to the > surface.......where you can see the stars streaming by. > > > > toombaru how can 'that which is not' be ready? ready for what? was there 'time' involved in this 'readiness'? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Silver " <silver@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " > > > > > <jason.dedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm the worse for it. I have all these questions but they never > > > seem > > > > > > to get answered to my satisfaction, and even when they do, I > > > kind of > > > > > > forget after a few months. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nis said: All you need is a quite mind > > > > > > > > > > > > He also said something about not telling everyone, that it's > > > all to > > > > > > easy to destroy the little you have gained by pride. > > > > > > > > > > > > When I go to bed every night, I read Nisargadatta as an anti- > > > dote to > > > > > > any rubbish I might have heard during the day. Then I close my > > > eyes > > > > > > and stay with the sense I am. Usually I forget and fall asleep, > > > but > > > > > > then, I remmber that Nis said we like sleep because that sense > > > of > > > > I am > > > > > > is not there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to bed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > questions are not to be answered > > > > > but to be gone into > > > > > back back > > > > > to wherefrom they sprout > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Questions are the itch of a dimly remembered innocence. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > ***************************** > > > To question is proof that you have not understood and that you are > > > still searching. > > > > > > Silver > > > > > > > > > To know that you are the searching......removes the floor. > > > > > > toombaru > > ' > > > to know what the floor is...removes the searching. > > .b b.b. > ********************* There we go! That's it. Once you know, the search is over. Done. For ever. No more questions. Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Silver " <silver wrote: > ***************************** > To question is proof that you have not understood and that you are > still searching. > > Silver Nice. To question is to assume a position as a questioner. To assert is to assume a position as an asserter. To demonstrate something is to assume a position as someone who has something to demonstrate. To assume no position, won't be something demonstrated, asserted, or offered as a question. One who rests as " what is " can't be found anywhere, won't be seen as a demonstration in the manifestation, won't appear as a question or an answer. -- D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Nisargadatta , " jason_de_donno " <jason.dedonno wrote: > > > When I read the words of others, no matter who's, yours or > > Nizargadatta's or even my own words, it's like I'm chewing on their > > (or my) vomit. > > When I found Nisargadatta's I Am That, in a box in a corner of a > second hand book shop, many years ago, I was searching for something. > I didn't even know what I was searching for when I went in ther. Some > kind of magic book, I guess. Funnily enough I found it. Miracles do > sometimes happen. > > Words, as Nisargadatta said, are all there is to express it. I'm glad > for Nisargadatta's words, and when I read his notes in " Master of Self- > Realisation " , it makes me realise how earnest he was, and how diligent > he listened to his master's words, Siddharameshwar. > > Jason Hi Jason - If you get through his words earnestness and integrity, that is more valuable than what the words say. If one shines as a lamp unto oneself, it is by way of earnestness and integrity. One is honest, direct, open to being aware. There is no price to put on this, no way to buy it. You can buy a book, you can pay to hear someone's words, or to engage in their program -- but you can't purchase sincerity, directness, non-distorting honest awareness. -- D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Silver " <silver@> wrote: > > > ***************************** > > To question is proof that you have not understood and that you are > > still searching. > > > > Silver > > Nice. > > To question is to assume a position as a questioner. > > To assert is to assume a position as an asserter. > > To demonstrate something is to assume a position as someone who has > something to demonstrate. > > To assume no position, won't be something demonstrated, asserted, or > offered as a question. > > One who rests as " what is " can't be found anywhere, won't be seen as a > demonstration in the manifestation, won't appear as a question or an > answer. > > -- D. > ..........and like some ethereal squid....the names evaporate.....the edges blur....and the entity disappears into the flowingness...only to mysteriously reappear when its name is called. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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