RES: remember the 'I' thought and seek its source

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" So, if the I-thought is to be eliminated, who is that " I " ? Isnt

the " I " , the source of the thought, the Self?? "

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First, try as you might, you will never succeed in eliminating " the I-

thought. " You speak of it as though it were something comparable to

excrement that the body needs to eliminate! Rather, Ramana encourages

you to retain that thought. Rather, he says, " ...one should never

relinquish one's self. " Now, think about this: If the source of, the

root, of the I-thought is your Self, then eliminating that thought

would require you to relinquish your self. Uprooting your self would

kill you. I know, I know. Some will say, " But, I want to be uprooted!

My ego must die! " People speak about the " death of ego " and weirdly

get all excited over it, as if that were a good thing. It's a

ridiculous idea. And not one person here who has ever written a

single word on this white message board can prove to you that the

death of ego is either possible or even a good thing. Because the

moment they start writing, they have disqualified themselves as

beings without ego. Their ego surfaces whenever they hit that 'Send'

button in the bottom right hand corner of your screen. See it? of

course you do! You'd be dead if you didn't. Or physically blind, in

which case, you'd still be there, body-mind, to figure out how to hit

that 'Send' button. So, forget the whole idea of " eliminating the I-

thought. " Just live your life and enjoy it!!

 

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Nisargadatta , " Cecilia " <martone wrote:

>

> Ok, I have expressed my question in a wrong way..

>

> In the book " Self Inquiry " ( p.4), we read Sri Ramana Maharshi

saying:

> " ... the thoughts that appear in the heart have as their basis the

egoity

> which is the first mental mode `I', the cognition of the form `I

>

> am the body'; thus, it is the rise of egoity that is the cause and

source of

> the rise of all other

>

> thoughts; therefore, if the self-conceit of the form of egoity

which is the

> root of the illusory tree of

>

> samsara (bondage consisting of transmigration) is destroyed, all

other

> thoughts will perish

>

> completely like an uprooted tree. Whatever thoughts arise as

obstacles to

> one's sadhana (spiritual

>

> discipline) - the mind should not be allowed to go in their

direction, but

> should be made to rest in

>

> one's self which is the Atman; one should remain as witness to

whatever

> happens, adopting the

>

> attitude `Let whatever strange things happen, happen; let us see!'

This

> should be one's practice. In

>

> other words, one should not identify oneself with appearances; one

should

> never relinquish one's

>

> self. This is the proper means for destruction of the mind

(manonasa) which

> is of the nature of

>

> seeing the body as self, and which is the cause of all the aforesaid

> obstacles. "

>

> So, if the I-thought is to be eliminated, who is that " I " ? Isnt

the " I " , the

> source of the thought, the Self??

>

> I hope now I could put my question clearer..

>

> Thank you

>

> Cecilia

>

>

> -----Mensagem original-----

> De: Nisargadatta

[Nisargadatta ]Em

> nome de cerosoul

> Enviada em: quinta-feira, 17 de maio de 2007 11:37

> Para: Nisargadatta

> Assunto: RES: Re: remember the 'I' thought and

seek its

> source

>

>

> -

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Cecilia " <martone@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello

> > >

> > > I always understood the root-thought is Self..is it right? I

got

> > confused

> > > now..

> > >

> > > Cecilia

> >

>

> P: The root-thought is also a thought, being confused

> is a thought, too. Let attention dwell in what is not thought,

> and where is confusion?

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