RES: remember the 'I' thought and seek its source

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Cecilia " <martone@> wrote:

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> > Hi Bill

> >

> > Thank you for your thoughts.

> >

> > I meant the Self as " I " really..in In the book " Self Inquiry " (

> p.4), we

> > read Sri Ramana Maharshi saying:

> > " ... the thoughts that appear in the heart have as their basis the

> egoity

> > which is the first mental mode �I�, the cognition of the form �I

> >

> > am the body�; thus, it is the rise of egoity that is the cause and

> source of

> > the rise of all other

> >

> > thoughts(...) "

> >

> > I was asking about the mental mode " I " , in fact. If the " I " that

> is the

> > origin of all thoughts was not the real Self.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thank you again

> >

> > Cecilia

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> It is the cognizing of a self that has itself as its own-being.

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> This is the distortion.

 

 

 

 

The I am.......creates a mysterious overlap.

 

The conceptual overlay in which me and other slug it out.

 

I am is a highly evolved survival mechanism.....I functions very well

for the survival of the organism......It's just a little frightening

when it is mistaken for reality.

 

The flip side of success.....is suffering.

 

 

 

 

toombaru

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> And the attempt to hold to that self, so as to have a possession, and

> objectification.

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> And then, all experiences, all object that attach to that, come with

that.

>

> One's history, future, world.

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> The world of objects, of experiences to be had, of survival.

>

> Once I have a self as an object " in here " - then I have objects " out

> there " and their relation to that self - either hurtful or helpful.

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> To relinquish the self is to relinquish objects.

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> And if so, there is no need to cognize a " Self " or anything else, like

> a " God " or " Being " or " Guru " or whatever ... as these are all objects,

> are objectifications, are thoughts that are held.

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> There is no need for any object, if there is no self-object being held.

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> -- D.

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