RES: remember the 'I' thought and seek its source

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Hi Bill

 

To know that Ramana uses the word " I " in different ways helps. Your words

helped me. Thank you.

 

Cecilia

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De: Nisargadatta [Nisargadatta ]Em

nome de billrishel

Enviada em: segunda-feira, 21 de maio de 2007 16:43

Para: Nisargadatta

Assunto: RES: Re: remember the 'I' thought and seek its

source

 

 

Nisargadatta , " Cecilia " <martone wrote:

>

> Hi Bill

>

> Thank you for your thoughts.

>

> I meant the Self as " I " really..in In the book " Self Inquiry " (

p.4), we

> read Sri Ramana Maharshi saying:

> " ... the thoughts that appear in the heart have as their basis the

egoity

> which is the first mental mode `I', the cognition of the form `I

>

> am the body'; thus, it is the rise of egoity that is the cause and

source of

> the rise of all other

>

> thoughts(...) "

>

> I was asking about the mental mode " I " , in fact. If the " I " that

is the

> origin of all thoughts was not the real Self.

>

>

>

> Thank you again

>

> Cecilia

>

>

 

Ramana uses the term " I " in different ways.

Striving for analytic clarity about Ramana's

use of terms could be an arduous undertaking.

 

He also talks about the " I-I " ... which means

something quite different from " the mental

mode 'I' " , just as he talks about Self and self.

 

I'll make a rough stab at it:

When he says " mental mode 'I' " he is referring

to a conceptualized entity that participates

in activities, owns things, etc. The I-I, on

the other hand, is not an agent in phenomenal

appearance, but the " ground " wherein all

phenomenal appearance arises. The I-I then, is

not " somebody " , while the " mental mode 'I' " is.

 

The " mental mode 'I' " is the fly-in-the-ointment,

a distraction that hides the profound depth of

I-I which is ever and always present but missed

by attention to the shallow, much like the silence

of the forest is missed when one has an ipod

plugged into one's ears.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

 

 

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