Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 I wonder if it is wise to give power to anyone's words.After all the words are just the result of an automatic process.Even if they are coming out of a great mouth like Nis's.All words are happenings.Are the words that happen in some mouths more valualbe than those that happen is some others? Sound silly? It is because I am not up to articulating my idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > I wonder if it is wise to give power to anyone's words.After all the > words are just the result of an automatic process.Even if they are > coming out of a great mouth like Nis's.All words are happenings.Are > the words that happen in some mouths more valuable than those that > happen is some others? Sound silly? It is because I am not up to > articulating my idea. > That is because some insights cannot be articulated. They emerge.....coalesce......shimmer for a time......and then slip below the surface of awareness. Sometimes you can make out a few footprints......follow them back for a while......and throw a few words to the wind. There is a most peculiar moment......when the swirling mnemonic debris shows itself for what it is......and.....and............. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > I wonder if it is wise to give power to anyone's words.After all the > > words are just the result of an automatic process.Even if they are > > coming out of a great mouth like Nis's.All words are happenings.Are > > the words that happen in some mouths more valuable than those that > > happen is some others? Sound silly? It is because I am not up to > > articulating my idea. > > > > That is because some insights cannot be articulated. > > They emerge.....coalesce......shimmer for a time......and then slip > below the surface of awareness. > > Sometimes you can make out a few footprints......follow them back for > a while......and throw a few words to the wind. > > > There is a most peculiar moment......when the swirling mnemonic debris > shows itself for what it is......and.....and............. > > > > toombaru as long one can't understand/know/see/live....Silence.... it's (nearly) worthless to read powerful words of some realised ones... ....because such powerful words....have Silence....as source.... Marc Ps: this source....is living within every being the " meaning of life " could/would be therefore....: to find this source ....but still, there is no real meaning of " your " being (restless mind).... percieving a whole world in move..... except that it represent a more less big world....filled up with " your " ignorance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > I wonder if it is wise to give power to anyone's words.After all > the > > > words are just the result of an automatic process.Even if they > are > > > coming out of a great mouth like Nis's.All words are > happenings.Are > > > the words that happen in some mouths more valuable than those > that > > > happen is some others? Sound silly? It is because I am not up to > > > articulating my idea. > > > > > > > That is because some insights cannot be articulated. > > > > They emerge.....coalesce......shimmer for a time......and then slip > > below the surface of awareness. > > > > Sometimes you can make out a few footprints......follow them back > for > > a while......and throw a few words to the wind. > > > > > > There is a most peculiar moment......when the swirling mnemonic > debris > > shows itself for what it is......and.....and............. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > as long one can't understand/know/see/live....Silence.... > > it's (nearly) worthless to read powerful words of some realised > ones... > > ...because such powerful words....have Silence....as source.... > > > Marc > > > > Ps: this source....is living within every being It is not living within.....It is the very essence of. > the " meaning of life " could/would be therefore....: > to find this source That would be a self-centered perspective.......and as we all know...there is no self. There is no meaning to life......no goal......no purpose. > > > ...but still, there is no real meaning of " your " being (restless > mind).... > percieving a whole world in move..... > > except that it represent a more less big world....filled up > with " your " ignorance > The self is ignorance solidified. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I wonder if it is wise to give power to anyone's words.After all > > the > > > > words are just the result of an automatic process.Even if they > > are > > > > coming out of a great mouth like Nis's.All words are > > happenings.Are > > > > the words that happen in some mouths more valuable than those > > that > > > > happen is some others? Sound silly? It is because I am not up to > > > > articulating my idea. > > > > > > > > > > That is because some insights cannot be articulated. > > > > > > They emerge.....coalesce......shimmer for a time......and then slip > > > below the surface of awareness. > > > > > > Sometimes you can make out a few footprints......follow them back > > for > > > a while......and throw a few words to the wind. > > > > > > > > > There is a most peculiar moment......when the swirling mnemonic > > debris > > > shows itself for what it is......and.....and............. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > as long one can't understand/know/see/live....Silence.... > > > > it's (nearly) worthless to read powerful words of some realised > > ones... > > > > ...because such powerful words....have Silence....as source.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > Ps: this source....is living within every being > It is not living within.....It is the very essence of. yes, ok..... the essence of what we mean here....is same > the " meaning of life " could/would be therefore....: > > to find this source > > > > > > That would be a self-centered perspective.......and as we all > know...there is no self. > > There is no meaning to life......no goal......no purpose. yes....i therefore wrote " could/would be " .... didn't write " is " > > > > > > > > > > > ...but still, there is no real meaning of " your " being (restless > > mind).... > > percieving a whole world in move..... > > > > except that it represent a more less big world....filled up > > with " your " ignorance > > > > > > The self is ignorance solidified. > the little imaginary self (ego)....yes! Marc > > toombaru > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if it is wise to give power to anyone's words.After > all > > > the > > > > > words are just the result of an automatic process.Even if > they > > > are > > > > > coming out of a great mouth like Nis's.All words are > > > happenings.Are > > > > > the words that happen in some mouths more valuable than those > > > that > > > > > happen is some others? Sound silly? It is because I am not up > to > > > > > articulating my idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is because some insights cannot be articulated. > > > > > > > > They emerge.....coalesce......shimmer for a time......and then > slip > > > > below the surface of awareness. > > > > > > > > Sometimes you can make out a few footprints......follow them > back > > > for > > > > a while......and throw a few words to the wind. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a most peculiar moment......when the swirling mnemonic > > > debris > > > > shows itself for what it is......and.....and............. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > as long one can't understand/know/see/live....Silence.... > > > > > > it's (nearly) worthless to read powerful words of some realised > > > ones... > > > > > > ...because such powerful words....have Silence....as source.... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: this source....is living within every being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not living within.....It is the very essence of. > > > yes, ok..... > > the essence of what we mean here....is same > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the " meaning of life " could/would be therefore....: > > > to find this source > > > > > > > > > > > > That would be a self-centered perspective.......and as we all > > know...there is no self. > > > > There is no meaning to life......no goal......no purpose. > > > yes....i therefore wrote " could/would be " .... > didn't write " is " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...but still, there is no real meaning of " your " being (restless > > > mind).... > > > percieving a whole world in move..... > > > > > > except that it represent a more less big world....filled up > > > with " your " ignorance > > > > > > > > > > > The self is ignorance solidified. > > > > the little imaginary self (ego)....yes! > > > Marc > > > > toombaru > > > > Ps: you can't sleep well....? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 > > > > > > The self is ignorance solidified. > > > > the little imaginary self (ego)....yes! > > > Marc > > There are not two selves. There is not even one. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The self is ignorance solidified. > > > > > > > the little imaginary self (ego)....yes! > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > There are not two selves. > > There is not even one. > > > toombaru if you like......to believe this......why not... you are free to believe whatever you like.... " your " business Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > I wonder if it is wise to give power to anyone's words.After all the > words are just the result of an automatic process.Even if they are > coming out of a great mouth like Nis's.All words are happenings.Are > the words that happen in some mouths more valualbe than those that > happen is some others? Sound silly? It is because I am not up to > articulating my idea. Well, Tom, A) seems to me that you *did* articulate it. B) Why wonder? Doesn't matter who says, but how said, when said, in what context. My view, anyhow. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The self is ignorance solidified. > > > > > > > the little imaginary self (ego)....yes! > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > There are not two selves. > > There is not even one. > > > toombaru there is not none. say this is fun! for the funner... for the funning... for the funsome. the gang's all here.. but 'i'm' not. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 My view, anyhow. > > Bill > ..........as viewed through the apparatus named Bill? :-) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > I wonder if it is wise to give power to anyone's words.After all the > > words are just the result of an automatic process.Even if they are > > coming out of a great mouth like Nis's.All words are happenings.Are > > the words that happen in some mouths more valualbe than those that > > happen is some others? Sound silly? It is because I am not up to > > articulating my idea. > > Well, Tom, A) seems to me that you *did* articulate it. > B) Why wonder? Doesn't matter who says, but how said, when > said, in what context. My view, anyhow. > > Bill >NO, it doesn't matter who said. And the power is not " given " anyway. It just happpens too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > I wonder if it is wise to give power to anyone's words.After all the > > words are just the result of an automatic process.Even if they are > > coming out of a great mouth like Nis's.All words are happenings.Are > > the words that happen in some mouths more valualbe than those that > > happen is some others? Sound silly? It is because I am not up to > > articulating my idea. > > Well, Tom, A) seems to me that you *did* articulate it. > B) Why wonder? Doesn't matter who says, but how said, when > said, in what context. My view, anyhow. > > Bill well this is also Miss Manners viewpoint. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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