Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 nothing " new " could ever be done no " new " waves could appear on an ocean differences are of form and space.....appearing through time... means, a mind thing everything is " done " ....already..... to understand this....need the calmness of a mind so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... is the calmness of a mind..... instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in imaginations.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through time... > > means, a mind thing > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > imaginations.... > > > > > Marc > A calm mind is like a calm wind. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through time... > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > toombaru as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the subject.... i read this sentence few times before.... so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through time... > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > toombaru > > > as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the subject.... > > i read this sentence few times before.... > > so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... > > Marc > There is no such thing as calm mind. It is only the mind that wants to calm itself. See that.......and watch what happens. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through time... > > > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the subject.... > > > > i read this sentence few times before.... > > > > so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... > > > > Marc > > > > > > There is no such thing as calm mind. > > It is only the mind that wants to calm itself. > > See that.......and watch what happens. > > > toombaru as i see..... it seem that you never took a bath.....in meditation..... means....letting go..... for real... this your busy busy mind.... it's never too late.... to have/get a heart for Peace See that.....or don't see... again... " your " business... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through > time... > > > > > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the > subject.... > > > > > > i read this sentence few times before.... > > > > > > so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as calm mind. > > > > It is only the mind that wants to calm itself. > > > > See that.......and watch what happens. > > > > > > toombaru > > > as i see..... > > it seem that you never took a bath.....in meditation..... > > means....letting go..... > > for real... > > this your busy busy mind.... > > > > it's never too late.... > > to have/get a heart for Peace > > > See that.....or don't see... > > > > again... > > " your " business... > > > Marc > > > > > > Only mind could come up with something so silly as " letting go " . toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through > > time... > > > > > > > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the > > subject.... > > > > > > > > i read this sentence few times before.... > > > > > > > > so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as calm mind. > > > > > > It is only the mind that wants to calm itself. > > > > > > See that.......and watch what happens. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > as i see..... > > > > it seem that you never took a bath.....in meditation..... > > > > means....letting go..... > > > > for real... > > > > this your busy busy mind.... > > > > > > > > it's never too late.... > > > > to have/get a heart for Peace > > > > > > See that.....or don't see... > > > > > > > > again... > > > > " your " business... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only mind could come up with something so silly as " letting go " . > > > toombaru > It tries to let go of itself. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through > > time... > > > > > > > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the > > subject.... > > > > > > > > i read this sentence few times before.... > > > > > > > > so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as calm mind. > > > > > > It is only the mind that wants to calm itself. > > > > > > See that.......and watch what happens. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > as i see..... > > > > it seem that you never took a bath.....in meditation..... > > > > means....letting go..... > > > > for real... > > > > this your busy busy mind.... > > > > > > > > it's never too late.... > > > > to have/get a heart for Peace > > > > > > See that.....or don't see... > > > > > > > > again... > > > > " your " business... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only mind could come up with something so silly as " letting go " . > > > toombaru whatever seen as " silly " .....is of mind only.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through > > > time... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > > > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the > > > subject.... > > > > > > > > > > i read this sentence few times before.... > > > > > > > > > > so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as calm mind. > > > > > > > > It is only the mind that wants to calm itself. > > > > > > > > See that.......and watch what happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > as i see..... > > > > > > it seem that you never took a bath.....in meditation..... > > > > > > means....letting go..... > > > > > > for real... > > > > > > this your busy busy mind.... > > > > > > > > > > > > it's never too late.... > > > > > > to have/get a heart for Peace > > > > > > > > > See that.....or don't see... > > > > > > > > > > > > again... > > > > > > " your " business... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only mind could come up with something so silly as " letting go " . > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > It tries to let go of itself. > > > > toombaru do you realy think that there is nothing but mind....?.... i hope for you.....that you don't Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through time... > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > toombaru good for nothing? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through time... > > > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the subject.... > > > > i read this sentence few times before.... > > > > so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... > > > > Marc > > > > > > There is no such thing as calm mind. > > It is only the mind that wants to calm itself. > > See that.......and watch what happens. > > > toombaru now just 'who' in the world is supposed to 'See' (that)? who's supposed to 'watch'? are you down there with the flounders again? uhmmm...NOTHING happens...say it again...NOTHING happens. it should be easy for a nothing to understand a nothing that happens. unless of course with 'you' we are dealing with some fundamentally different sort of nothing. no such damn thing. are you trying to calm your'self' with this sort of solipsism? won't work for you or 'any-you' pal. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through > > time... > > > > > > > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the > > subject.... > > > > > > > > i read this sentence few times before.... > > > > > > > > so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as calm mind. > > > > > > It is only the mind that wants to calm itself. > > > > > > See that.......and watch what happens. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > as i see..... > > > > it seem that you never took a bath.....in meditation..... > > > > means....letting go..... > > > > for real... > > > > this your busy busy mind.... > > > > > > > > it's never too late.... > > > > to have/get a heart for Peace > > > > > > See that.....or don't see... > > > > > > > > again... > > > > " your " business... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only mind could come up with something so silly as " letting go " . > > > toombaru ONLY mind could come up with: 'Only mind could come up with something so silly as " letting go " '. are you locked in? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through > > > time... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > > > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the > > > subject.... > > > > > > > > > > i read this sentence few times before.... > > > > > > > > > > so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as calm mind. > > > > > > > > It is only the mind that wants to calm itself. > > > > > > > > See that.......and watch what happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > as i see..... > > > > > > it seem that you never took a bath.....in meditation..... > > > > > > means....letting go..... > > > > > > for real... > > > > > > this your busy busy mind.... > > > > > > > > > > > > it's never too late.... > > > > > > to have/get a heart for Peace > > > > > > > > > See that.....or don't see... > > > > > > > > > > > > again... > > > > > > " your " business... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only mind could come up with something so silly as " letting go " . > > > > > > toombaru > > > > whatever seen as " silly " .....is of mind only.... > > > > Marc > Some ideas are sillier then others. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through > > > > time... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > > > > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the > > > > subject.... > > > > > > > > > > > > i read this sentence few times before.... > > > > > > > > > > > > so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as calm mind. > > > > > > > > > > It is only the mind that wants to calm itself. > > > > > > > > > > See that.......and watch what happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > as i see..... > > > > > > > > it seem that you never took a bath.....in meditation..... > > > > > > > > means....letting go..... > > > > > > > > for real... > > > > > > > > this your busy busy mind.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's never too late.... > > > > > > > > to have/get a heart for Peace > > > > > > > > > > > > See that.....or don't see... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again... > > > > > > > > " your " business... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only mind could come up with something so silly as " letting go " . > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > It tries to let go of itself. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > do you realy think that there is nothing but mind....?.... > > > > > i hope for you.....that you don't > > Marc > > > How could mind experience anything outside of its own self-referential confuson? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through time... > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > toombaru > > > good for nothing? > > .b b.b. > same as nothing. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through time... > > > > > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the subject.... > > > > > > i read this sentence few times before.... > > > > > > so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as calm mind. > > > > It is only the mind that wants to calm itself. > > > > See that.......and watch what happens. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > now just 'who' in the world is supposed to 'See' (that)? > > who's supposed to 'watch'? > > are you down there with the flounders again? > > uhmmm...NOTHING happens...say it again...NOTHING happens. > > it should be easy for a nothing to understand a nothing that happens. > > unless of course with 'you' we are dealing with some fundamentally > different sort of nothing. > > no such damn thing. > > are you trying to calm your'self' with this sort of solipsism? > > won't work for you or 'any-you' pal. > > .b b.b. > there is a turning about........a facing the void.......a catharsis......an implosion......a personal Armegeddon........ what can be said about that?........ toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through time... > > > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > good for nothing? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > same as nothing. > > > > toombaru nothing is the same as nothing. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through > > > > time... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > > > > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the > > > > subject.... > > > > > > > > > > > > i read this sentence few times before.... > > > > > > > > > > > > so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as calm mind. > > > > > > > > > > It is only the mind that wants to calm itself. > > > > > > > > > > See that.......and watch what happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > as i see..... > > > > > > > > it seem that you never took a bath.....in meditation..... > > > > > > > > means....letting go..... > > > > > > > > for real... > > > > > > > > this your busy busy mind.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's never too late.... > > > > > > > > to have/get a heart for Peace > > > > > > > > > > > > See that.....or don't see... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again... > > > > > > > > " your " business... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only mind could come up with something so silly as " letting go " . > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > whatever seen as " silly " .....is of mind only.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > Some ideas are sillier then others. > > > toombaru ONLY to 'minds'. to the Real nothing is sacred or silly. your still down there with flatfish aren't you? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through time... > > > > > > > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the subject.... > > > > > > > > i read this sentence few times before.... > > > > > > > > so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as calm mind. > > > > > > It is only the mind that wants to calm itself. > > > > > > See that.......and watch what happens. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > now just 'who' in the world is supposed to 'See' (that)? > > > > who's supposed to 'watch'? > > > > are you down there with the flounders again? > > > > uhmmm...NOTHING happens...say it again...NOTHING happens. > > > > it should be easy for a nothing to understand a nothing that happens. > > > > unless of course with 'you' we are dealing with some fundamentally > > different sort of nothing. > > > > no such damn thing. > > > > are you trying to calm your'self' with this sort of solipsism? > > > > won't work for you or 'any-you' pal. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > there is a turning about........a facing the void.......a > catharsis......an implosion......a personal Armegeddon........ > > what can be said about that?........ > > > > toombaru oh...you mean Karmageddon...it's like, when everybody is sending off all these bad vibes, right? and then, like, the earth explodes and it's like, a serious bummer. but like on a 'personal' basis, right? yeah uh huh..sure thing... whose personal 'catharsis' are we speaking of? who faces the void? an 'implosion' of what...nothing? ah c'mon with you. i know you know better than all this nonsense. just relax and quit trying to be more 'right' or correct' than whoever it is you write to and all will be well. i wish you godspeed. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through > > > > time... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > > > > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A calm mind is like a calm wind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i see....you don't write anything new concerning the > > > > subject.... > > > > > > > > > > > > i read this sentence few times before.... > > > > > > > > > > > > so...nothing realy new coming out of " your " mind... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as calm mind. > > > > > > > > > > It is only the mind that wants to calm itself. > > > > > > > > > > See that.......and watch what happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > as i see..... > > > > > > > > it seem that you never took a bath.....in meditation..... > > > > > > > > means....letting go..... > > > > > > > > for real... > > > > > > > > this your busy busy mind.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's never too late.... > > > > > > > > to have/get a heart for Peace > > > > > > > > > > > > See that.....or don't see... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again... > > > > > > > > " your " business... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only mind could come up with something so silly as " letting go " . > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ONLY mind could come up with: > > > > 'Only mind could come up with something so silly as " letting go " '. > > > > are you locked in? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > In and out.....In nad out......That's what hamburger's all about. > > > > > toombaru pray tell...what does the 'inside' of hamburger look like? or the 'outside' for that matter? if you speak of human carcass.. i hear it tastes more porky than burgery. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Hi Marc, " There is nothing new nor anything you do not already have which needs to be gained. The feeling that you have not yet realized is the sole obstruction to realization. " Ramana Maharshi & Spiritual Discourses of Shri Atmananda ( I AM ) I hear someone say that nothing new is ever done. Glad those who invented the wheel, didn't interpretate it the wrong way ... Or we would still live in Neandertal. Lulu Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " wrote: > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through time... > > means, a mind thing > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > imaginations.... > > > > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > Hi Marc, > > " There is nothing new nor anything you do not already have which > needs to be gained. The feeling that you have not yet realized is > the sole obstruction to realization. " > > Ramana Maharshi & Spiritual Discourses of Shri Atmananda ( I AM ) > > > I hear someone say that nothing new is ever done. > > Glad those who invented the wheel, didn't interpretate it the wrong > way ... > > > > Or we would still live in Neandertal. > > > > Lulu yeah.....be glad of such fabuloes appearences....! you are what you see... you see what you are.... and maybe.... there are entities who see even much more.....you ever dreamed to see.... Marc Ps: it depend ....on how far/deep.......one wish to see... ego-minds tend to already stop looking/seeking....at every little emotional & nice & intellectual things..... instead to step forwards.... until they are free.... like everybody else... sooner or later.... wish to continue on this " your " fabuloes (dream) path...... > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " wrote: > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through time... > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Marc, I'm sure there are, that's what I dream. Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > yeah.....be glad of such fabuloes appearences....! > > > > you are what you see... > > you see what you are.... > > and maybe.... > > there are entities who see even much more.....you ever dreamed to > see.... > > > Marc > > > Ps: it depend ....on how far/deep.......one wish to see... > > ego-minds tend to already stop looking/seeking....at every little > emotional & nice & intellectual things..... > > instead to step forwards.... > > until they are free.... > > like everybody else... > > > sooner or later.... > > wish to continue on this " your " fabuloes (dream) path...... ..... My fabuloes dream path leads through the valley of death into the garden of non being and no mindedness, where it is surrounded by a strange flower which leads into the mind of everyone, in the mind of everyone, no mind and non-beingness appear transparent, each personal reality and each personal fiction, the fictional identity of entities who see much more and those who see much less. Than the fictional identity stumbles across a fabuloes dream path, one that can take them out of their body and out of their mind into the mind of everyone and no one, but to enter their mind, they must travel through the garden of non being and no mindedness, and all they can take with if they arrive in the mind of everyone, is transparent nothingness. > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > wrote: > > > > Hi Marc, > > > > " There is nothing new nor anything you do not already have which > > needs to be gained. The feeling that you have not yet realized is > > the sole obstruction to realization. " > > > > Ramana Maharshi & Spiritual Discourses of Shri Atmananda ( I AM ) > > > > > > I hear someone say that nothing new is ever done. > > > > Glad those who invented the wheel, didn't interpretate it the wrong > > way ... > > > > > > > > Or we would still live in Neandertal. > > > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " wrote: > > > > > > > > > nothing " new " could ever be done > > > > > > no " new " waves could appear on an ocean > > > > > > > > > differences are of form and space.....appearing through time... > > > > > > means, a mind thing > > > > > > > > > everything is " done " ....already..... > > > > > > to understand this....need the calmness of a mind > > > > > > > > > so what could appear to be " new " ....this days.... > > > > > > is the calmness of a mind..... > > > > > > instead of a restless mind who is constantly trapped in > > > imaginations.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Spiritual machine wrote: Oh Mirror You are my very self ..... I am you, and you are me, I reach to the soul of you and find - the soul of everyone ,,,,,, everywhere, everywhere -.nothing but you Oh Mirror you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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