Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 That business about striving painfully for 60 years with I AM and being told that it is ok since striving is your nature--sounds like what Tony Parsons means when he talks about teachings that " imprison people " . Nis himself used the I AM technique for 3 years--and he was selling cigs on the side. This guy who used it for 60 years --he must have been running a brothel or a string of them to have such bad luck. But to be fair Nis does say that you must strive without hankering for results.But what if hankering for results is your nature also? I guess the fact is this: the mind is not up to these mysteries.Mr. Mind--shut the @#$% up and let's see what happens then. I say this without any disrespect intended to Nis. His advice is sometimes like a firehose-- you have to be pretty stong already to make use of it.Otherwise it will get away from you and whack hell out of you.But then some folks can take anything and make a weapon of it to stick into their tender sides.They are like those prisoners who make knives out of toothbrushes.haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > That business about striving painfully for 60 years with I AM and > being told that it is ok since striving is your nature--sounds like > what Tony Parsons means when he talks about teachings that " imprison > people " . Nis himself used the I AM technique for 3 years--and he was > selling cigs on the side. This guy who used it for 60 years --he must > have been running a brothel or a string of them to have such bad luck. > But to be fair Nis does say that you must strive without hankering for > results.But what if hankering for results is your nature also? I guess > the fact is this: the mind is not up to these mysteries.Mr. Mind--shut > the @#$% up and let's see what happens then. I say this without any > disrespect intended to Nis. His advice is sometimes like a firehose-- > you have to be pretty stong already to make use of it.Otherwise it > will get away from you and whack hell out of you.But then some folks > can take anything and make a weapon of it to stick into their tender > sides.They are like those prisoners who make knives out of > toothbrushes.haha What Nis said in the quote you refer to was to a *particular person*. His statements should not be taken out of context as " universal truths " . Some have read his dialogs and have been affected by them, myself included at particular times. But there is no recipe involved. We are all on our own. There are no guarantees. But in the end any sense of " this myself " does slip away into what words cannot speak to. And each path into that twilight zone is unique. It is the " path of the lonely ones " .... becoming no-ones. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > That business about striving painfully for 60 years with I AM and > > being told that it is ok since striving is your nature--sounds like > > what Tony Parsons means when he talks about teachings that " imprison > > people " . Nis himself used the I AM technique for 3 years--and he was > > selling cigs on the side. This guy who used it for 60 years --he must > > have been running a brothel or a string of them to have such bad luck. > > But to be fair Nis does say that you must strive without hankering for > > results.But what if hankering for results is your nature also? I guess > > the fact is this: the mind is not up to these mysteries.Mr. Mind--shut > > the @#$% up and let's see what happens then. I say this without any > > disrespect intended to Nis. His advice is sometimes like a firehose-- > > you have to be pretty stong already to make use of it.Otherwise it > > will get away from you and whack hell out of you.But then some folks > > can take anything and make a weapon of it to stick into their tender > > sides.They are like those prisoners who make knives out of > > toothbrushes.haha > > What Nis said in the quote you refer to was to a *particular person*. > > His statements should not be taken out of context as " universal > truths " . Some have read his dialogs and have been affected by > them, myself included at particular times. But there is no > recipe involved. We are all on our own. There are no guarantees. > > But in the end any sense of " this myself " does slip away into > what words cannot speak to. > > And each path into that twilight zone is unique. > > It is the " path of the lonely ones " .... becoming no-ones. academic nondualism.........ho ho ho! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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