Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 In the end it boils down to this: Is your identity thought based or is it founded on rock and has become and indeed is rock itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Pretty good, Are you a rock now? lulu Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > In the end it boils down to this: Is your identity thought based or is > it founded on rock and has become and indeed is rock itself. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > In the end it boils down to this: Is your identity thought based or is > it founded on rock and has become and indeed is rock itself. > In the end it comes to: identity is boiled away. And there are no rocks. Nor need for any. Nor place for one. If there is " solidity " it is most intangibly so. Perhaps it is just complete absence of doubt, complete absence of any *assessment*, no sense whatsoever of any " state " . Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > In the end it boils down to this: Is your identity thought based or is > > it founded on rock and has become and indeed is rock itself. > > > > In the end it comes to: identity is boiled away. > > And there are no rocks. > Nor need for any. > Nor place for one. > > If there is " solidity " it is most intangibly so. > > Perhaps it is just complete absence of doubt, > complete absence of any *assessment*, > no sense whatsoever of any " state " . > > > Bill > ......and no more questions....... except maybe............... Why are tires black? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > In the end it boils down to this: Is your identity thought based or is > > it founded on rock and has become and indeed is rock itself. > > > > In the end it comes to: identity is boiled away. > > And there are no rocks. > Nor need for any. > Nor place for one. > > If there is " solidity " it is most intangibly so. > > Perhaps it is just complete absence of doubt, > complete absence of any *assessment*, > no sense whatsoever of any " state " . this too thankfully will pass. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > In the end it boils down to this: Is your identity thought based > or is > > > it founded on rock and has become and indeed is rock itself. > > > > > > > In the end it comes to: identity is boiled away. > > > > And there are no rocks. > > Nor need for any. > > Nor place for one. > > > > If there is " solidity " it is most intangibly so. > > > > Perhaps it is just complete absence of doubt, > > complete absence of any *assessment*, > > no sense whatsoever of any " state " . > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > .....and no more questions....... > > > except maybe............... > > > Why are tires black? > > > > > > toombaru well it's mostly because they aren't a different color.. that is why they are black. some think it's because: left alone, tires dry out, discolor and eventually crack and split. 'dry rot' is a multi-million dollar problem for RVers, trailer boaters and owners of classic cars that are parked for extended periods. the major factor degrading tires and other synthetic and rubber products is ozone, an odorless gas which is part of the air we breath. when combined with ultraviolet light (the invisible part of sunlight) a reaction occurs that attacks the tire polymer. to protect against ozone and UV damage, a stabilizer molecule called a 'competitive absorber' is blended with the tire polymer. competitive absorbers work by capturing and absorbing UV radiation and converting it to heat which is dissipated harmlessly.all tire manufacturers use the same competitive absorber, carbon black. this is why all tires are black...why tires are not available in designer colors. these absorbers are sacrificial; they expend themselves in performing their function of changing UV to heat. as carbon black loses it's ability to perform, it turns gray. this is one reason why black tires discolor as they age. to protect from further ozone damage, tire manufacturers add a wax compound to their formulas. tires flex when they are in motion, causing the wax molecules to migrate to the surface. this forms a protective barrier between the air (ozone and oxygen) and the tire polymer. in the tire trade this is called 'blooming'. when tires are parked for extended periods, blooming does not occur and ozone starts attacking the polymer. with UV light and ozone working in concert, the degradation is accelerated, resulting in drying, discoloration and cracking. that's if 'you' believe tires are 'real. otherwise..they can be any color. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > In the end it boils down to this: Is your identity thought based > > or is > > > > it founded on rock and has become and indeed is rock itself. > > > > > > > > > > In the end it comes to: identity is boiled away. > > > > > > And there are no rocks. > > > Nor need for any. > > > Nor place for one. > > > > > > If there is " solidity " it is most intangibly so. > > > > > > Perhaps it is just complete absence of doubt, > > > complete absence of any *assessment*, > > > no sense whatsoever of any " state " . > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > .....and no more questions....... > > > > > > except maybe............... > > > > > > Why are tires black? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > well it's mostly because they aren't a different color.. > > that is why they are black. > > > > > some think it's because: > > > > left alone, tires dry out, discolor and eventually crack and split. > > 'dry rot' is a multi-million dollar problem for RVers, trailer boaters > > and owners of classic cars that are parked for extended periods. > > > the major factor degrading tires and other synthetic and rubber > > products is ozone, an odorless gas which is part of the air we breath. > > when combined with ultraviolet light (the invisible part of sunlight) > > a reaction occurs that attacks the tire polymer. > > > > to protect against ozone and UV damage, a stabilizer molecule > > called a 'competitive absorber' is blended with the tire polymer. > > competitive absorbers work by capturing and absorbing UV radiation and > > converting it to heat which is dissipated harmlessly.all tire > > manufacturers use the same competitive absorber, carbon black. this is > > why all tires are black...why tires are not available in designer > > colors. > > > > > these absorbers are sacrificial; they expend themselves in > > performing their function of changing UV to heat. as carbon black > > loses it's ability to perform, it turns gray. this is one reason why > > black tires discolor as they age. > > > > to protect from further ozone damage, tire manufacturers add a wax > > compound to their formulas. tires flex when they are in motion, > > causing the wax molecules to migrate to the surface. this forms a > > protective barrier between the air (ozone and oxygen) and the tire > > polymer. in the tire trade this is called 'blooming'. > > > when tires are parked for extended periods, blooming does not > > occur and ozone starts attacking the polymer. with UV light and ozone > > working in concert, the degradation is accelerated, resulting in > > drying, discoloration and cracking. > > > that's if 'you' believe tires are 'real. > > otherwise..they can be any color. > > .b b.b. > Ok...... that makes sense. But why are they black? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In the end it boils down to this: Is your identity thought based > > > or is > > > > > it founded on rock and has become and indeed is rock itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the end it comes to: identity is boiled away. > > > > > > > > And there are no rocks. > > > > Nor need for any. > > > > Nor place for one. > > > > > > > > If there is " solidity " it is most intangibly so. > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is just complete absence of doubt, > > > > complete absence of any *assessment*, > > > > no sense whatsoever of any " state " . > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .....and no more questions....... > > > > > > > > > except maybe............... > > > > > > > > > Why are tires black? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > well it's mostly because they aren't a different color.. > > > > that is why they are black. > > > > > > > > > > some think it's because: > > > > > > > > left alone, tires dry out, discolor and eventually crack and split. > > > > 'dry rot' is a multi-million dollar problem for RVers, trailer boaters > > > > and owners of classic cars that are parked for extended periods. > > > > > > the major factor degrading tires and other synthetic and rubber > > > > products is ozone, an odorless gas which is part of the air we breath. > > > > when combined with ultraviolet light (the invisible part of sunlight) > > > > a reaction occurs that attacks the tire polymer. > > > > > > > > to protect against ozone and UV damage, a stabilizer molecule > > > > called a 'competitive absorber' is blended with the tire polymer. > > > > competitive absorbers work by capturing and absorbing UV radiation and > > > > converting it to heat which is dissipated harmlessly.all tire > > > > manufacturers use the same competitive absorber, carbon black. this is > > > > why all tires are black...why tires are not available in designer > > > > colors. > > > > > > > > > > these absorbers are sacrificial; they expend themselves in > > > > performing their function of changing UV to heat. as carbon black > > > > loses it's ability to perform, it turns gray. this is one reason why > > > > black tires discolor as they age. > > > > > > > > to protect from further ozone damage, tire manufacturers add a wax > > > > compound to their formulas. tires flex when they are in motion, > > > > causing the wax molecules to migrate to the surface. this forms a > > > > protective barrier between the air (ozone and oxygen) and the tire > > > > polymer. in the tire trade this is called 'blooming'. > > > > > > when tires are parked for extended periods, blooming does not > > > > occur and ozone starts attacking the polymer. with UV light and ozone > > > > working in concert, the degradation is accelerated, resulting in > > > > drying, discoloration and cracking. > > > > > > that's if 'you' believe tires are 'real. > > > > otherwise..they can be any color. > > > > .b b.b. > > Ok...... that makes sense. > > > But why are they black? > > > > > toombaru ok...from the top of the above: " well it's mostly because they aren't a different color.. that is why they are black. " get it? true..this is deep 'whatsis'. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 > > ok...from the top of the above: > > " well it's mostly because they aren't a different color.. > > that is why they are black. " > > get it? > > true..this is deep 'whatsis'. > > .b b.b. > Why do you perceive tires as being black? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > ok...from the top of the above: > > > > " well it's mostly because they aren't a different color.. > > > > that is why they are black. " > > > > get it? > > > > true..this is deep 'whatsis'. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Why do you perceive tires as being black? > > > > toombaru this is not a 'perception'. i don't even believe in 'your' 'black tires'. i'm just toying. what is 'black'? why are you so occupied with what baba 'perceives'? it seems to be a belief held that baba is other than 'you'..or 'tires' is it a 'california thing'? well anyway..who cares? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ok...from the top of the above: > > > > > > " well it's mostly because they aren't a different color.. > > > > > > that is why they are black. " > > > > > > get it? > > > > > > true..this is deep 'whatsis'. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Why do you perceive tires as being black? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > this is not a 'perception'. > > i don't even believe in 'your' 'black tires'. > > i'm just toying. > > what is 'black'? > > why are you so occupied with what baba 'perceives'? It is your perception that I am occupied with your perception. > > it seems to be a belief held that baba is other than 'you'..or 'tires' > > is it a 'california thing'? > > well anyway..who cares? > > .b b.b. > There is caring here. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok...from the top of the above: > > > > > > > > " well it's mostly because they aren't a different color.. > > > > > > > > that is why they are black. " > > > > > > > > get it? > > > > > > > > true..this is deep 'whatsis'. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you perceive tires as being black? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > this is not a 'perception'. > > > > i don't even believe in 'your' 'black tires'. > > > > i'm just toying. > > > > what is 'black'? > > > > why are you so occupied with what baba 'perceives'? > > > > > > It is your perception that I am occupied with your perception. > > > it seems to be a belief held that baba is other than 'you'..or 'tires' > > > > is it a 'california thing'? > > > > well anyway..who cares? > > > > .b b.b. > There is caring here. > > > > > toombaru ok...where's here? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok...from the top of the above: > > > > > > > > > > " well it's mostly because they aren't a different color.. > > > > > > > > > > that is why they are black. " > > > > > > > > > > get it? > > > > > > > > > > true..this is deep 'whatsis'. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you perceive tires as being black? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > this is not a 'perception'. > > > > > > i don't even believe in 'your' 'black tires'. > > > > > > i'm just toying. > > > > > > what is 'black'? > > > > > > why are you so occupied with what baba 'perceives'? > > > > > > > > > > > > It is your perception that I am occupied with your perception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it seems to be a belief held that baba is other than 'you'..or > 'tires' > > > > > > is it a 'california thing'? > > > > > > well anyway..who cares? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is caring here. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > ok...where's here? > > .b b.b. > Everywhere. And why didn't you answer the rest of the post? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok...from the top of the above: > > > > > > > > > > > > " well it's mostly because they aren't a different color.. > > > > > > > > > > > > that is why they are black. " > > > > > > > > > > > > get it? > > > > > > > > > > > > true..this is deep 'whatsis'. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you perceive tires as being black? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > this is not a 'perception'. > > > > > > > > i don't even believe in 'your' 'black tires'. > > > > > > > > i'm just toying. > > > > > > > > what is 'black'? > > > > > > > > why are you so occupied with what baba 'perceives'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is your perception that I am occupied with your perception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it seems to be a belief held that baba is other than 'you'..or > > 'tires' > > > > > > > > is it a 'california thing'? > > > > > > > > well anyway..who cares? > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is caring here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ok...where's here? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Everywhere. > > > > And why didn't you answer the rest of the post? > > > > > toombaru there is no Everywhere..just another Santa there. i finished it just seconds ago.. i had a nature call and a phone call and i didn't know if i'd get back. right back down here now. ..b b.b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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