Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 ego....is all there is.....between an imaginary " you " ....and God Marc Ps: no way out of ego....by an imagination to be God.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > ego....is all there is.....between an imaginary " you " ....and God > > > > Marc > > > > > Ps: no way out of ego....by an imagination to be God.... > When there is imagination of a " within " , a " center within " there is inside/outside, and thus ego. The within-ness, the sense of a center within can seem absolutely real. But is it real, or just an assumption? With the realization that there is no center really, that it was just an assumption, space is no longer divided into inner/outer, and there is no longer any sense of location in subjective space. Thus, there is no longer any special orientation in subjective space. Just a soft, enormous Emptiness, moving at glacial speed. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ego....is all there is.....between an imaginary " you " ....and God > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > Ps: no way out of ego....by an imagination to be God.... > > > > When there is imagination of a " within " , a " center > within " there is inside/outside, and thus ego. > > The within-ness, the sense of a center within can > seem absolutely real. But is it real, or just an > assumption? > > With the realization that there is no center > really, that it was just an assumption, > space is no longer divided into inner/outer, > and there is no longer any sense of location in > subjective space. Thus, there is no longer any > special orientation in subjective space. > > Just a soft, enormous Emptiness, moving at > glacial speed. > > > Bill .....doesn't matter " how " one see oneself.....with or without " center " .....etc the one who is realised....know and see for real.....that he/she isn't this limited appearance of a body.... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > ego....is all there is.....between an imaginary " you " ....and God > > > > Marc > > ego....is all there is.....between an imaginary " you " ....and an imaginary God. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ego....is all there is.....between an imaginary " you " ....and God > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > ego....is all there is.....between an imaginary " you " ....and an > imaginary God. > > > > > toombaru yes.....imaginary toombaru imaginary Marc Ps: what is name of this your nice mind-game? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ego....is all there is.....between an imaginary " you " ....and God > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > ego....is all there is.....between an imaginary " you " ....and an > > imaginary God. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > yes.....imaginary toombaru > > > imaginary Marc > > > Ps: what is name of this your nice mind-game? > > > > " Story Time " toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ego....is all there is.....between an imaginary " you " ....and God > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: no way out of ego....by an imagination to be God.... > > > > > > > When there is imagination of a " within " , a " center > > within " there is inside/outside, and thus ego. > > > > The within-ness, the sense of a center within can > > seem absolutely real. But is it real, or just an > > assumption? > > > > With the realization that there is no center > > really, that it was just an assumption, > > space is no longer divided into inner/outer, > > and there is no longer any sense of location in > > subjective space. Thus, there is no longer any > > special orientation in subjective space. > > > > Just a soft, enormous Emptiness, moving at > > glacial speed. > > > > > > Bill > > > ....doesn't matter " how " one see oneself.....with or > without " center " .....etc But that is what I am saying Marc... it is not how but *that* one sees oneself in some particular way that is the ego-bind. Bill > > the one who is realised....know and see for real.....that he/she > isn't this limited appearance of a body.... > > > Marc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ego....is all there is.....between an imaginary " you " ....and God > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ego....is all there is.....between an imaginary " you " ....and an > > > imaginary God. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > yes.....imaginary toombaru > > > > > > imaginary Marc > > > > > > Ps: what is name of this your nice mind-game? > > > > > > > > > > > " Story Time " > > > > > toombaru you mean....the story about killing some time....? Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ego....is all there is.....between an imaginary " you " ....and God > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: no way out of ego....by an imagination to be God.... > > > > > > > > > > When there is imagination of a " within " , a " center > > > within " there is inside/outside, and thus ego. > > > > > > The within-ness, the sense of a center within can > > > seem absolutely real. But is it real, or just an > > > assumption? > > > > > > With the realization that there is no center > > > really, that it was just an assumption, > > > space is no longer divided into inner/outer, > > > and there is no longer any sense of location in > > > subjective space. Thus, there is no longer any > > > special orientation in subjective space. > > > > > > Just a soft, enormous Emptiness, moving at > > > glacial speed. > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > ....doesn't matter " how " one see oneself.....with or > > without " center " .....etc > > But that is what I am saying Marc... it is not how but > *that* one sees oneself in some particular way that > is the ego-bind. ok.... > > Bill > > > > > the one who is realised....know and see for real.....that he/she > > isn't this limited appearance of a body.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 > > > > > > the one who is realised....know and see for real.....that he/she > > > isn't this limited appearance of a body.... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > Realization is the annihilation of the one who would realize. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > > > the one who is realised....know and see for real.....that he/she > > > > isn't this limited appearance of a body.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > Realization is the annihilation of the one who would realize. > > > > toombaru yes > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > > > the one who is realised....know and see for real.....that he/she > > > > isn't this limited appearance of a body.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > Realization is the annihilation of the one who would realize. > > > > toombaru > Could I call for a clarification of terms here, as there cannot be annihilation of what never was. Not that I don't know what you mean. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the one who is realised....know and see for real.....that he/she > > > > > isn't this limited appearance of a body.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Realization is the annihilation of the one who would realize. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Could I call for a clarification of terms here, as > there cannot be annihilation of what never was. > Not that I don't know what you mean. > > Bill > When the water in the mirage is no longer perceived as water..... the mirage is " annihilated " . toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the one who is realised....know and see for real.....that > he/she > > > > > > isn't this limited appearance of a body.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Realization is the annihilation of the one who would realize. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > Could I call for a clarification of terms here, as > > there cannot be annihilation of what never was. > > Not that I don't know what you mean. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > When the water in the mirage is no longer perceived as water..... > > the mirage is " annihilated " . > > > > toombaru OK Bill PS: guess I was being picky... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > Mata Amritanandamay > > > > > Another New Age populist, Ricardo. > > It is the usual trick and procedure of most gurus to find and to establish an enemy, in this case the ego, and then offering a seducing teaching of eternal bliss or similar crap based on fighting that enemy. > > I wonder why you don't see that, Ricardo ? > > Werner wernie! Ricardo sees you perfectly. what's the matter with you? here you go seeking attention again. tsk tsk tsk. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > Mata Amritanandamay > > > > > Another New Age populist, Ricardo. > > It is the usual trick and procedure of most gurus to find and to establish an enemy, in this case the ego, and then offering a seducing teaching of eternal bliss or similar crap based on fighting that enemy. > > I wonder why you don't see that, Ricardo ? > > Werner You're right, Werner! I found this citation somewhere and thought it isn't that bad. I don't know who Mata A. is! Indeed, the promise of an eternal orgasm! The ego........reflective self-awareness; ideal-ego and ego-ideal! I accept everything! Ricardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Nisargadatta , " kipalmazy " <kipalmazy wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Ricardo Almon <ricardo.almon@> wrote: > > > > > > People are only intent on feeding the ego. They never think of knowing the > > > Self. To know the Self, one should starve the ego. But unfortunately, most > > > people cannot starve the ego. Instead, they cling to it, ever increasingly. > > > The predominant tendency in human beings is to attract as much attention as > > > possible. They want to be praised and recognized, believing that it is their > > > birthright. This is all food for the ego which thrives on attention. How are > > > you going to know the Self if your ego is constantly craving attention? " > > > > > > Mata Amritanandamay > > > > > > > > > Another New Age populist, Ricardo. > > > > It is the usual trick and procedure of most gurus to find and to establish an enemy, in this case the ego, and then offering a seducing teaching of eternal bliss or similar crap based on fighting that enemy. > > > > I wonder why you don't see that, Ricardo ? > > > > Werner > > > You're right, Werner! I found this citation somewhere and thought it isn't that bad. I don't know who Mata A. is! > > Indeed, the promise of an eternal orgasm! > > The ego........reflective self-awareness; ideal-ego and ego-ideal! > > I accept everything! > > Ricardo whiner wernie just can't accept that he's an asshole. he creates enemy dogs to fight. and he picks up stray cats to befriend. he's too serious about himself. he doesn't know what fun is about. at least he's not a hyperventilating hispanic hokum hissy... like his new friend. he's a nazi. and damn proud of it too! :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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