Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Hi everyone, since a couple of years I suffer from the obsessional belief, to be everyone. And I feel the need to tell everyone that I am them. Is there a cure against this disease that you know of, anyone? lulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > since a couple of years I suffer from the obsessional belief, to be > everyone. > > And I feel the need to tell everyone that I am them. > > Is there a cure against this disease that you know of, > anyone? > > lulu > When it is known that you are what is......nothing needs to be said. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > since a couple of years I suffer from the obsessional belief, to be > everyone. > > And I feel the need to tell everyone that I am them. > > Is there a cure against this disease that you know of, > anyone? > > lulu > your very seeing of it... that you suffer from the beliefe is the cure... if you are really honest about this...you are done with it... first and last...only trust the pure I am...then neither beliefe nor suffering can touch you http://iietsa.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > since a couple of years I suffer from the obsessional belief, to be > > everyone. > > > > And I feel the need to tell everyone that I am them. > > > > Is there a cure against this disease that you know of, > > anyone? > > > > lulu > > > > your very seeing of it... > that you suffer from the beliefe is the cure... > if you are really honest about this...you are done with it... > first and last...only trust the pure I am...then neither beliefe nor > suffering can touch you > > http://iietsa.blogspot.com/ As long as there is an I.....it is not untouchable. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > since a couple of years I suffer from the obsessional belief, to be > > > everyone. > > > > > > And I feel the need to tell everyone that I am them. > > > > > > Is there a cure against this disease that you know of, > > > anyone? > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > your very seeing of it... > > that you suffer from the beliefe is the cure... > > if you are really honest about this...you are done with it... > > first and last...only trust the pure I am...then neither beliefe nor > > suffering can touch you > > > > http://iietsa.blogspot.com/ As long as there is an I.....it is not untouchable. > > > > > > toombaru > beyond the mind there is nothing that can be touched... be beyound the mind...where not even the word " I " can reach... and you are the untouchable... http://iietsa.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > since a couple of years I suffer from the obsessional belief, to be > everyone. > > And I feel the need to tell everyone that I am them. > > Is there a cure against this disease that you know of, > anyone? > > lulu > Yes, but it will take many years and you must do a lot of tapas and... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > since a couple of years I suffer from the obsessional belief, to be > everyone. > > And I feel the need to tell everyone that I am them. > > Is there a cure against this disease that you know of, > anyone? > > lulu maybe you are obsessed also....to this appearing " everyone " .... instead to get some more obsession for real Self.... ....you are trapped by this appearing " everyone " .... instead to finally get closer to who/what you are....for real.... means, non-duality.... ....you live in persisting duality... there is neither a " you " ...nor this " everyone " ....for real... all is just the appearence of real Self.... take it easy..... nobody who care.... for real Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Hmmm, ok, Hi Marc, Tombaroo, iietsa, ... I live in persisting duality, there is a me, but at the same time every me is me, so where is the duality? Sorry but I'm blind to see it. I'm trapped by this appearing I, as long as there is an I, I identify with it, no matter where and when. And I resist to let go of the appearing I, why, because it's what I am, and if I let go of my appearing I, there are countless others, I become. I'm the illusion, I am the appearing I, every appearing I, I am not the real self, the real self does not exist. And no, I cannot go beyond the mind, to go beyond the mind is to die, but death is no solution to life, and even if I become the untouchable I still identify with every appearing I. Toombaru, Nice your disput about the real unreal, looks like you're talking to a mirror ... so you recommend to kill every appearing I, that doesn't work. They rise again, they always rise again. And I identify with them. Did I make it clear? The appearing I is who I am and who I identify with, the appearing I of everyone, as long as I live and beyond my death. If I let go of the appearing I, my appearing I, there are still countless others to identify with. These are my identities, this is my illness, to let go of one appearing I is no solution to the appearing I problem, because they rise faster than I can ever let go. You seem to understand my problem, I suffer from the belief that I am the appearing I, every appearing I for as long as appearing I's exist. To let go, I would need to let go of every appearing I, and every appearing I would need to do the same. So what is the cure to the belief that I'm not one appearing I but every appearing I. I'm like the mirror with thousand images, the mirror alone does not exist, but the thousand images do, and the mirror thinks it is these thousand images. If I let go of one image, there's still 999 left. The appearing I's are my fictions, my dreams, I identify with them as much as I identify with my self, I am the appearing I, every appearing I, for all time to come. What solution to that mentality. lulu maybe you are obsessed also....to this appearing " everyone " .... instead to get some more obsession for real Self.... ....you are trapped by this appearing " everyone " .... instead to finally get closer to who/what you are....for real.... means, non-duality.... ....you live in persisting duality... there is neither a " you " ...nor this " everyone " ....for real... all is just the appearence of real Self.... take it easy..... nobody who care.... for real Marc Yes, but it will take many years and you must do a lot of tapas and... beyond the mind there is nothing that can be touched... be beyound the mind...where not even the word " I " can reach... and you are the untouchable... http://iietsa.blogspot.com/ As long as there is an I.....it is not untouchable. toombaru your very seeing of it... that you suffer from the beliefe is the cure... if you are really honest about this...you are done with it... first and last...only trust the pure I am...then neither beliefe nor suffering can touch you http://iietsa.blogspot.com/ When it is known that you are what is......nothing needs to be said. toombaru Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > since a couple of years I suffer from the obsessional belief, to be > everyone. > > And I feel the need to tell everyone that I am them. > > Is there a cure against this disease that you know of, > anyone? > > lulu > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > > Hmmm, ok, Hi Marc, Tombaroo, iietsa, ... > > I live in persisting duality, > there is a me, but at the same time every me is me, so where is the > duality? > > Sorry but I'm blind to see it. > > I'm trapped by this appearing I, as long as there is an I, I identify > with it, no matter where and when. And I resist to let go of the > appearing I, why, because it's what I am, and if I let go of my > appearing I, there are countless others, I become. > > I'm the illusion, I am the appearing I, every appearing I, I am not > the real self, the real self does not exist. > > And no, I cannot go beyond the mind, to go beyond the mind is to die, > but death is no solution to life, and even if I become the untouchable > I still identify with every appearing I. > > > Toombaru, Nice your disput about the real unreal, looks like you're > talking to a mirror ... so you recommend to kill every appearing I, > that doesn't work. They rise again, they always rise again. And I > identify with them. > > > Did I make it clear? > > The appearing I is who I am and who I identify with, the appearing I > of everyone, as long as I live and beyond my death. If I let go of the > appearing I, my appearing I, there are still countless others to > identify with. These are my identities, this is my illness, to let go > of one appearing I is no solution to the appearing I problem, because > they rise faster than I can ever let go. > > You seem to understand my problem, I suffer from the belief that I am > the appearing I, every appearing I for as long as appearing I's exist. > > To let go, I would need to let go of every appearing I, and every > appearing I would need to do the same. So what is the cure to the > belief that I'm not one appearing I but every appearing I. > > I'm like the mirror with thousand images, the mirror alone does not > exist, but the thousand images do, and the mirror thinks it is these > thousand images. If I let go of one image, there's still 999 left. > > The appearing I's are my fictions, my dreams, I identify with them as > much as I identify with my self, I am the appearing I, every appearing > I, for all time to come. > > What solution to that mentality. > > lulu > > > let go this mind..... there is nobody who die....in letting go the mind... the more resistance....the deeper is duality... .... but up to " you " ..... do what you want ..... who cares? Marc > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > > Hmmm, ok, Hi Marc, Tombaroo, iietsa, ... > > I live in persisting duality, > there is a me, but at the same time every me is me, so where is the > duality? > > Sorry but I'm blind to see it. > > I'm trapped by this appearing I, as long as there is an I, I identify > with it, no matter where and when. And I resist to let go of the > appearing I, why, because it's what I am, and if I let go of my > appearing I, there are countless others, I become. > > I'm the illusion, I am the appearing I, every appearing I, I am not > the real self, the real self does not exist. > > And no, I cannot go beyond the mind, to go beyond the mind is to die, > but death is no solution to life, and even if I become the untouchable > I still identify with every appearing I. > > > Toombaru, Nice your disput about the real unreal, looks like you're > talking to a mirror ... so you recommend to kill every appearing I, > that doesn't work. They rise again, they always rise again. And I > identify with them. > > > Did I make it clear? > > The appearing I is who I am and who I identify with, the appearing I > of everyone, as long as I live and beyond my death. If I let go of the > appearing I, my appearing I, there are still countless others to > identify with. These are my identities, this is my illness, to let go > of one appearing I is no solution to the appearing I problem, because > they rise faster than I can ever let go. > > You seem to understand my problem, I suffer from the belief that I am > the appearing I, every appearing I for as long as appearing I's exist. > > To let go, I would need to let go of every appearing I, and every > appearing I would need to do the same. So what is the cure to the > belief that I'm not one appearing I but every appearing I. > > I'm like the mirror with thousand images, the mirror alone does not > exist, but the thousand images do, and the mirror thinks it is these > thousand images. If I let go of one image, there's still 999 left. > > The appearing I's are my fictions, my dreams, I identify with them as > much as I identify with my self, I am the appearing I, every appearing > I, for all time to come. > > What solution to that mentality. > > lulu there is no such thing as a 'solution' to a nonexistent 'problem'. there is also no 'solution' to a nonexistent 'mentality'. don't be silly. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 you cannot go beyond the mind... because you are already beyond the mind... only because of wrong identification you ignore this... you dont have to let go of anything... just dont grab what appears... and it will disappear of its own... what appears and disappears is not you...you are the seer behind everything that is coming and going...and it does not matter if it is coming fast or slow... http://iietsa.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > you cannot go beyond the mind... > because you are already beyond the mind... > only because of wrong identification you ignore this... > > you dont have to let go of anything... > just dont grab what appears... > and it will disappear of its own... > > what appears and disappears is not you...you are the seer behind > everything that is coming and going...and it does not matter if it is > coming fast or slow... > > http://iietsa.blogspot.com/ there is no such thing as 'beyond'. 'mind and 'you' are different words for the same thing.. neither is before or after..fast or slow... if you don't grab a baseball coming at your head at 95 m.p.h. it will not disappear. give it a try yourself some time. ask a good pitcher to haul off and throw a good one at your head. don't attempt to grab it before it connects with your head. please report afterwards regarding it's disappearance. perhaps you've tried this before and have thus started thinking the way you do. your 'thinking' is very understandable in this case. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > you cannot go beyond the mind... > > because you are already beyond the mind... > > only because of wrong identification you ignore this... > > > > you dont have to let go of anything... > > just dont grab what appears... > > and it will disappear of its own... > > > > what appears and disappears is not you...you are the seer behind > > everything that is coming and going...and it does not matter if it is > > coming fast or slow... > > > > http://iietsa.blogspot.com/ > > > there is no such thing as 'beyond'. > > 'mind and 'you' are different words for the same thing.. > > neither is before or after..fast or slow... > > if you don't grab a baseball coming at your head at 95 m.p.h. it will > not disappear. > > give it a try yourself some time. > > ask a good pitcher to haul off and throw a good one at your head. > > don't attempt to grab it before it connects with your head. > > please report afterwards regarding it's disappearance. > > perhaps you've tried this before and have thus started thinking the > way you do. > > your 'thinking' is very understandable in this case. > > .b b.b. as you said...there is no such thing as " you " only in your eyes it appears that the ball is going to hit me if I dont grab it... your words are wiser than you... iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > you cannot go beyond the mind... > > > because you are already beyond the mind... > > > only because of wrong identification you ignore this... > > > > > > you dont have to let go of anything... > > > just dont grab what appears... > > > and it will disappear of its own... > > > > > > what appears and disappears is not you...you are the seer behind > > > everything that is coming and going...and it does not matter if > it is > > > coming fast or slow... > > > > > > http://iietsa.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > there is no such thing as 'beyond'. > > > > 'mind and 'you' are different words for the same thing.. > > > > neither is before or after..fast or slow... > > > > if you don't grab a baseball coming at your head at 95 m.p.h. it > will > > not disappear. > > > > give it a try yourself some time. > > > > ask a good pitcher to haul off and throw a good one at your head. > > > > don't attempt to grab it before it connects with your head. > > > > please report afterwards regarding it's disappearance. > > > > perhaps you've tried this before and have thus started thinking the > > way you do. > > > > your 'thinking' is very understandable in this case. > > > > .b b.b. > > as you said...there is no such thing as " you " > only in your eyes it appears > that the ball is going to hit me if I dont grab it... > your words are wiser than you... > iietsa well thanks. probably because my words issue from a mouth located on a head not hit by a baseball. i'm impressed that your head can make a baseball disappear. frankly i think your non-existent bat has missed the ball completely as it zoomed by before disappearing and not hitting your non-existing head.. have you considered a career in baseball? big money awaits wonders like yourself that can make balls disappear. but then 'you' don't exist so what the hell would you do with all the big bucks that would be given to 'you' by the non-existent franchises playing with disappearing balls. but you have some swell non-existing ideas on all theses non-existing and disappearing 'stuff and suches'(there are no such things as things). life must be a drag huh? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > you cannot go beyond the mind... > > > > because you are already beyond the mind... > > > > only because of wrong identification you ignore this... > > > > > > > > you dont have to let go of anything... > > > > just dont grab what appears... > > > > and it will disappear of its own... > > > > > > > > what appears and disappears is not you...you are the seer behind > > > > everything that is coming and going...and it does not matter if > > it is > > > > coming fast or slow... > > > > > > > > http://iietsa.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > there is no such thing as 'beyond'. > > > > > > 'mind and 'you' are different words for the same thing.. > > > > > > neither is before or after..fast or slow... > > > > > > if you don't grab a baseball coming at your head at 95 m.p.h. it > > will > > > not disappear. > > > > > > give it a try yourself some time. > > > > > > ask a good pitcher to haul off and throw a good one at your head. > > > > > > don't attempt to grab it before it connects with your head. > > > > > > please report afterwards regarding it's disappearance. > > > > > > perhaps you've tried this before and have thus started thinking the > > > way you do. > > > > > > your 'thinking' is very understandable in this case. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > as you said...there is no such thing as " you " > > only in your eyes it appears > > that the ball is going to hit me if I dont grab it... > > your words are wiser than you... > > iietsa > > > well thanks. > > probably because my words issue from a mouth located on a head not hit > by a baseball. > > i'm impressed that your head can make a baseball disappear. > > frankly i think your non-existent bat has missed the ball completely > as it zoomed by before disappearing and not hitting your non- existing > head.. > > have you considered a career in baseball? > > big money awaits wonders like yourself that can make balls disappear. > > but then 'you' don't exist so what the hell would you do with all the > big bucks that would be given to 'you' by the non-existent franchises > playing with disappearing balls. > > but you have some swell non-existing ideas on all theses non- existing > and disappearing 'stuff and suches'(there are no such things as things). > > life must be a drag huh? > > .b b.b. > I can not make anything disappear... and I can not make anything appear... in your point of view...life must be a drag... why...because of a baseball ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > you cannot go beyond the mind... > > > > > because you are already beyond the mind... > > > > > only because of wrong identification you ignore this... > > > > > > > > > > you dont have to let go of anything... > > > > > just dont grab what appears... > > > > > and it will disappear of its own... > > > > > > > > > > what appears and disappears is not you...you are the seer > behind > > > > > everything that is coming and going...and it does not matter > if > > > it is > > > > > coming fast or slow... > > > > > > > > > > http://iietsa.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no such thing as 'beyond'. > > > > > > > > 'mind and 'you' are different words for the same thing.. > > > > > > > > neither is before or after..fast or slow... > > > > > > > > if you don't grab a baseball coming at your head at 95 m.p.h. > it > > > will > > > > not disappear. > > > > > > > > give it a try yourself some time. > > > > > > > > ask a good pitcher to haul off and throw a good one at your > head. > > > > > > > > don't attempt to grab it before it connects with your head. > > > > > > > > please report afterwards regarding it's disappearance. > > > > > > > > perhaps you've tried this before and have thus started > thinking the > > > > way you do. > > > > > > > > your 'thinking' is very understandable in this case. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > as you said...there is no such thing as " you " > > > only in your eyes it appears > > > that the ball is going to hit me if I dont grab it... > > > your words are wiser than you... > > > iietsa > > > > > > well thanks. > > > > probably because my words issue from a mouth located on a head not > hit > > by a baseball. > > > > i'm impressed that your head can make a baseball disappear. > > > > frankly i think your non-existent bat has missed the ball > completely > > as it zoomed by before disappearing and not hitting your non- > existing > > head.. > > > > have you considered a career in baseball? > > > > big money awaits wonders like yourself that can make balls > disappear. > > > > but then 'you' don't exist so what the hell would you do with all > the > > big bucks that would be given to 'you' by the non-existent > franchises > > playing with disappearing balls. > > > > but you have some swell non-existing ideas on all theses non- > existing > > and disappearing 'stuff and suches'(there are no such things as > things). > > > > life must be a drag huh? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > I can not make anything disappear... > and I can not make anything appear... > > in your point of view...life must be a drag... > why...because of a baseball ? no not at all. for me life's a gas and a joke. but for a substance such as yourself that doesn't do anything, if it's not boring, you must be the most easily entertained dude there is. i just thought lying around day after day would be boring for you. even a 'you' that is not (a 'you) but it takes all kinds to make a world. even amoebas get the blues sometimes no? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji > > baba " > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you cannot go beyond the mind... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because you are already beyond the > > > > mind... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only because of wrong identification > > you > > > > > > ignore > > > > > > > > > > this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you dont have to let go of > > anything... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just dont grab what appears... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it will disappear of its own... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what appears and disappears is not > > > > you...you > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > seer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > behind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything that is coming and > > > > going...and it > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > matter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > coming fast or slow... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://iietsa.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no such thing as 'beyond'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'mind and 'you' are different words > > for > > > > the > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > thing.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neither is before or after..fast or > > slow... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you don't grab a baseball coming at > > > > your > > > > > > head > > > > > > > > at 95 > > > > > > > > > > > > m.p.h. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not disappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give it a try yourself some time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ask a good pitcher to haul off and > > throw a > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > one at > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > head. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't attempt to grab it before it > > > > connects > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > head. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please report afterwards regarding > > it's > > > > > > > > disappearance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps you've tried this before and > > have > > > > thus > > > > > > > > started > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way you do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your 'thinking' is very understandable > > in > > > > this > > > > > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as you said...there is no such thing > > as " you " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only in your eyes it appears > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that the ball is going to hit me if I > > dont > > > > grab > > > > > > it... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your words are wiser than you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably because my words issue from a > > mouth > > > > > > located > > > > > > > > on a > > > > > > > > > > head > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by a baseball. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm impressed that your head can make a > > > > baseball > > > > > > > > disappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frankly i think your non-existent bat has > > > > missed > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > ball > > > > > > > > > > > > > > completely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as it zoomed by before disappearing and > > not > > > > > > hitting > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > non- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > existing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > head.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have you considered a career in baseball? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big money awaits wonders like yourself > > that > > > > can > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > balls > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but then 'you' don't exist so what the > > hell > > > > would > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > big bucks that would be given to 'you' by > > the > > > > non- > > > > > > > > existent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > franchises > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > playing with disappearing balls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but you have some swell non-existing ideas > > on > > > > all > > > > > > > > theses > > > > > > > > > > non- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > existing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and disappearing 'stuff and suches'(there > > are > > > > no > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life must be a drag huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can not make anything disappear... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and I can not make anything appear... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in your point of view...life must be a > > drag... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why...because of a baseball ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no not at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for me life's a gas and a joke. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but for a substance such as yourself that > > doesn't > > > > do > > > > > > > > anything, > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > > > > > not boring, you must be the most easily > > > > entertained > > > > > > dude > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just thought lying around day after day > > would be > > > > > > boring > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even a 'you' that is not (a 'you) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but it takes all kinds to make a world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even amoebas get the blues sometimes no? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lying around day after day is to do something... > > > > > > > > > > > > and I dont do anything...amoebas appears and > > amoebas > > > > > > > > disappers... > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess life appears as a gas and a joke some... > > > > > > > > > > > > thats what Ive heard... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > someday you too will enjoy True Bliss. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > until that time of course Realization is just > > > > something > > > > > > you've > > > > > > > > > > heard > > > > > > > > > > > about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who are the nonentities that you hear this from in > > > > your > > > > > > > > supposed > > > > > > > > > > nonbeing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i now allow you to play your silly games. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no matter how seriously depressed you want it to > > be > > > > for > > > > > > > > yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever the hell it is that you think you are..or > > > > aren't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these words will disappear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the POWER! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love is not evil...and evil is not love... > > > > > > > > > > the only one you fool by being rude is yourself... > > > > > > > > > > because you only hit yourself again and again... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's being rude? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to whom could that who be rude to? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't fool yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are you nuts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no such thing as good and evil but that > > thinking > > > > > > makes it > > > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grow the hell up kiddo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have you been hurt? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought you weren't there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you seem to change that 'mind' thing around a lot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well, god.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > glad to see you put on some down to earth pants. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now i can tell you straight up: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you're a parasite for sore eyes'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some words points more to the real... > > > > > > > > and some more to the unreal... > > > > > > > > lets take an example from above:... " grow the hell up > > > > kiddo " ... > > > > > > > > as said before...love is not evil...and evil is not > > love... > > > > > > > > so before picking up just another stone from your > > pocket... > > > > > > > > ...there is no need to grab that stone...let it be... > > > > > > > > ...and give love a chance > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that kind of love is an hormonal backwater marsh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maudlin nonsense and self loving deception is not for the > > baba. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you seem terribly stuck in that quicksand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love contains ALL and EVERYTHING. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even that cheap stuff you find evil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love on the other hand compels people to speak foolishly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and think one is 'better' than another. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's just a sickness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it's conceited...as if you didn't know lover. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > its not that I think that I am better... > > > > > > I am not...I can asure you... > > > > > > I love you as you are...even if you think differently... > > > > > > your picture of me is your own creation... > > > > > > I am beyond... > > > > > > iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beyond? > > > > > > > > > > beyond what? > > > > > > > > > > and where is 'that'? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > beyond the mind and its creations... > > > > where no word can ever reach... > > > > > > > > > i'm surprised you took the bait. > > > > > > there is no 'where'..('there') [a wordy concession]. > > > > > > and no mind nor iietsa are 'there' either. > > > > > > all of that and this is long gone... and never was in or outside > > THAT. > > > > > > there is no way you can talk about it... nor claim dominion. > > > > > > 'it' couldn't care less nor be bothered with 'you' any of 'this'. > > > > > > your descriptions are conceitedly and deceitfully irrelevant. > > > > > > if 'you' think not..or disagree...try some humility. > > > > > > for phantoms and their worlds it's only proper. > > > > > > all the rest is bullshit. > > > > > > and 'it' doesn't care if 'you' 'get it', get 'hurt' or > > feel 'unloved'. > > > > > > 'it' is amused by the antics of misguided and delusional cognitive > > > > > > contents. > > > > > > and yet...it isn't really disported nor diverted by any of this > > > > > > nonsense. > > > > > > it ignores it. > > > > > > that stuff and all the wordy and holy crap is not part of 'It'. > > > > > > you sound at times like an ant defining the brain of man. > > > > > > that may be cute but it's not very impressive to a man. > > > > > > 'It' will step on 'you' in 'it's' own good time and in 'it's' own > > way. > > > > > > and there is nothing 'you' can do. > > > > > > all the rhapsodic talk is like a child's rhyming. > > > > > > a little more maturity is hereby suggested. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > your suggestions may be perfectly in tune to yourself and alikes... > > but I am not interested at all...really... > > and if you " are surpriced I took that bait " ...the spell is all on > > you..and therefor your window desperately needs a cleaning... > > you can plant as many baits as you like...but they will never hook > > on me...its all your own imagination playing you a fool and a > > trick...see it for what it is...and the mind will no longer be able > > to trick you... > > iietsa > > > sure, sure. > > whatever makes you happy to believe is ok with baba. > > bobji sees misled, self satisfied, buffoons deceiving themselves... > > and it's like going to the circus. > > it 'casts a spell' on him and he laughs and laughs. > > big egos pretending to be selfless are the funniest show in the ring. > > .b b.b. there is nothing but show..... with..... or without awareness of... .... 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