Guest guest Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 You can never get to the changeless by having to do with the world of changes.It makes no more sense to put your heart on anything unstable than it does to bet on which horse will win the race of the merry-go- round.--NIsargadatta (with a little help from below) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > You can never get to the changeless by having to do with the world of > changes.It makes no more sense to put your heart on anything unstable > than it does to bet on which horse will win the race of the merry-go- > round.--NIsargadatta (with a little help from below) there is no 'you'.. to put a 'heart' on anything. that's the ONLY safe bet. and..... always.. the blue horse with the gold pole wins the carousel race. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > You can never get to the changeless by having to do with the world of > > changes.It makes no more sense to put your heart on anything unstable > > than it does to bet on which horse will win the race of the merry-go- > > round.--NIsargadatta (with a little help from below) > > > there is no 'you'.. > > to put a 'heart' on anything. > > that's the ONLY safe bet. > > and..... > > always.. > > the blue horse with the gold pole wins the carousel race. > > > .b b.b. > I don't know anyone who doesn't say " I " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > You can never get to the changeless by having to do with the world > of > > changes.It makes no more sense to put your heart on anything unstable > > than it does to bet on which horse will win the race of the merry-go- > > round.--NIsargadatta (with a little help from below) > > > > exactly... > > but now this self-halluzinated " lightworkers " get some problems with > this words.... > > > > Marc > By the way: you made a commenet that as long as one is under the sway of karma, he has no choices. Please tell me what kind of choices there are when karma has been transcended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > You can never get to the changeless by having to do with the > world of > > > changes.It makes no more sense to put your heart on anything > unstable > > > than it does to bet on which horse will win the race of the > merry-go- > > > round.--NIsargadatta (with a little help from below) > > > > > > there is no 'you'.. > > > > to put a 'heart' on anything. > > > > that's the ONLY safe bet. > > > > and..... > > > > always.. > > > > the blue horse with the gold pole wins the carousel race. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > I don't know anyone who doesn't say " I " . you don't know much or many. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > You can never get to the changeless by having to do with the > world > > of > > > changes.It makes no more sense to put your heart on anything > unstable > > > than it does to bet on which horse will win the race of the > merry-go- > > > round.--NIsargadatta (with a little help from below) > > > > > > > > exactly... > > > > but now this self-halluzinated " lightworkers " get some problems > with > > this words.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > By the way: you made a commenet that as long as one is under the > sway of karma, he has no choices. Please tell me what kind of > choices there are when karma has been transcended. > good question.... you want to talk about what is happening when all this Karma related talk in here come to end....one day.... maybe this isn't the right moment and right place....to talk about such things.... people in here who Love to produce Karma....without end.... again and again...... with fantastic tendencies.....as for example, to follow some mysterious missions (impossible)....to save the world.....and so on..... Karma is related to the attachment to the world.....means, to the imaginary self.....who can't catch It.......and is trapped constantly in the world......which is just a reflection of the ego mind.... some light appear here & there.....to digest all this fabuloes appearences.......and then..... ignorance go on....again and so....again and again....the question about free will, choices and other nice concepts are flowing through restless minds .... ..... when Karma is over......there is no more question about choices.... because first of all....there is nobody, for real, anymore....who could ask/wish/dream....for choices there is just Peace......inner Peace.....and so, the joy and happiness......to watch all this.....coming and going..... without having anymore a direct relation to such appearences .....no concepts existing to know about......in advance.... wish a nice day Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You can never get to the changeless by having to do with the > > world of > > > > changes.It makes no more sense to put your heart on anything > > unstable > > > > than it does to bet on which horse will win the race of the > > merry-go- > > > > round.--NIsargadatta (with a little help from below) > > > > > > > > > there is no 'you'.. > > > > > > to put a 'heart' on anything. > > > > > > that's the ONLY safe bet. > > > > > > and..... > > > > > > always.. > > > > > > the blue horse with the gold pole wins the carousel race. > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > I don't know anyone who doesn't say " I " . > > > you don't know much or many. > > .b b.b. >I know more than I need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You can never get to the changeless by having to do with the > > world > > > of > > > > changes.It makes no more sense to put your heart on anything > > unstable > > > > than it does to bet on which horse will win the race of the > > merry-go- > > > > round.--NIsargadatta (with a little help from below) > > > > > > > > > > > > exactly... > > > > > > but now this self-halluzinated " lightworkers " get some problems > > with > > > this words.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > By the way: you made a commenet that as long as one is under the > > sway of karma, he has no choices. Please tell me what kind of > > choices there are when karma has been transcended. > > > > > good question.... > > you want to talk about what is happening when all this Karma related > talk in here come to end....one day.... > > maybe this isn't the right moment and right place....to talk about > such things.... > > people in here who Love to produce Karma....without end.... > again and again...... > > with fantastic tendencies.....as for example, to follow some > mysterious missions (impossible)....to save the world.....and so > on..... > > Karma is related to the attachment to the world.....means, to the > imaginary self.....who can't catch It.......and is trapped constantly > in the world......which is just a reflection of the ego mind.... > > some light appear here & there.....to digest all this fabuloes > appearences.......and then..... > > ignorance go on....again > > and so....again and again....the question about free will, choices > and other nice concepts are flowing through restless minds .... > > .... > > when Karma is over......there is no more question about choices.... > > because first of all....there is nobody, for real, anymore....who > could ask/wish/dream....for choices > > there is just Peace......inner Peace.....and so, the joy and > happiness......to watch all this.....coming and going..... > without having anymore a direct relation to such appearences > > ....no concepts existing to know about......in advance.... > > wish a nice day > > > Marc >So without the chooser, this absolutely fantastical notion of choice falls down like a kite on a broken string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You can never get to the changeless by having to do with > the > > > world > > > > of > > > > > changes.It makes no more sense to put your heart on anything > > > unstable > > > > > than it does to bet on which horse will win the race of the > > > merry-go- > > > > > round.--NIsargadatta (with a little help from below) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exactly... > > > > > > > > but now this self-halluzinated " lightworkers " get some > problems > > > with > > > > this words.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > By the way: you made a commenet that as long as one is under the > > > sway of karma, he has no choices. Please tell me what kind of > > > choices there are when karma has been transcended. > > > > > > > > > good question.... > > > > you want to talk about what is happening when all this Karma > related > > talk in here come to end....one day.... > > > > maybe this isn't the right moment and right place....to talk about > > such things.... > > > > people in here who Love to produce Karma....without end.... > > again and again...... > > > > with fantastic tendencies.....as for example, to follow some > > mysterious missions (impossible)....to save the world.....and so > > on..... > > > > Karma is related to the attachment to the world.....means, to the > > imaginary self.....who can't catch It.......and is trapped > constantly > > in the world......which is just a reflection of the ego mind.... > > > > some light appear here & there.....to digest all this fabuloes > > appearences.......and then..... > > > > ignorance go on....again > > > > and so....again and again....the question about free will, choices > > and other nice concepts are flowing through restless minds .... > > > > .... > > > > when Karma is over......there is no more question about choices.... > > > > because first of all....there is nobody, for real, anymore....who > > could ask/wish/dream....for choices > > > > there is just Peace......inner Peace.....and so, the joy and > > happiness......to watch all this.....coming and going..... > > without having anymore a direct relation to such appearences > > > > ....no concepts existing to know about......in advance.... > > > > wish a nice day > > > > > > Marc > >So without the chooser, this absolutely fantastical notion of > choice falls down like a kite on a broken string. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You can never get to the changeless by having to do with > the > > > world of > > > > > changes.It makes no more sense to put your heart on anything > > > unstable > > > > > than it does to bet on which horse will win the race of the > > > merry-go- > > > > > round.--NIsargadatta (with a little help from below) > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no 'you'.. > > > > > > > > to put a 'heart' on anything. > > > > > > > > that's the ONLY safe bet. > > > > > > > > and..... > > > > > > > > always.. > > > > > > > > the blue horse with the gold pole wins the carousel race. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > I don't know anyone who doesn't say " I " . > > > > > > you don't know much or many. > > > > .b b.b. > >I know more than I need to. you only think you know. you don't need anything. what is just the right amount to know..not too much..not too little? i know you knows.....don't you? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You can never get to the changeless by having to do with > > the > > > > world of > > > > > > changes.It makes no more sense to put your heart on anything > > > > unstable > > > > > > than it does to bet on which horse will win the race of the > > > > merry-go- > > > > > > round.--NIsargadatta (with a little help from below) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no 'you'.. > > > > > > > > > > to put a 'heart' on anything. > > > > > > > > > > that's the ONLY safe bet. > > > > > > > > > > and..... > > > > > > > > > > always.. > > > > > > > > > > the blue horse with the gold pole wins the carousel race. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > I don't know anyone who doesn't say " I " . > > > > > > > > > you don't know much or many. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > >I know more than I need to. > > > you only think you know. > > you don't need anything. > > what is just the right amount to know..not too much..not too little? > > i know you knows.....don't you? > > .b b.b. >I used to think I knew things but I don't know what it means to know anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can never get to the changeless by having to do with > > > the > > > > > world of > > > > > > > changes.It makes no more sense to put your heart on > anything > > > > > unstable > > > > > > > than it does to bet on which horse will win the race of > the > > > > > merry-go- > > > > > > > round.--NIsargadatta (with a little help from below) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no 'you'.. > > > > > > > > > > > > to put a 'heart' on anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the ONLY safe bet. > > > > > > > > > > > > and..... > > > > > > > > > > > > always.. > > > > > > > > > > > > the blue horse with the gold pole wins the carousel race. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know anyone who doesn't say " I " . > > > > > > > > > > > > you don't know much or many. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > >I know more than I need to. > > > > > > you only think you know. > > > > you don't need anything. > > > > what is just the right amount to know..not too much..not too > little? > > > > i know you knows.....don't you? > > > > .b b.b. > >I used to think I knew things but I don't know what it means to > know anymore. i don't understand. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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