Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 The healthy truth. There are those who say, " nothing is real " , " no one exists " . There are those who say " I am one " , " I exist " . There are those who say " I am every one " . There are those who say " I am seperated and isolated from all others " . Look at it from a healthy future point of view. Look at it in 10'000 years from now. Which reality is the most beneficial for consciousness, awareness and life on earth? The " I am every one " mentality feels responsible for every one, also the health of people in 10'000 years from now. While all other mentalities, response only for one being and presence or not even that. Clearly, in the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is the healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality to those who choose. lulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > The healthy truth. > > > > There are those who say, " nothing is real " , " no one exists " . > > There are those who say " I am one " , " I exist " . > > There are those who say " I am every one " . > > There are those who say " I am seperated and isolated from all others " . > > > > > > Look at it from a healthy future point of view. > > Look at it in 10'000 years from now. > > > > Which reality is the most beneficial for consciousness, awareness and > life on earth? > > > > > > The " I am every one " mentality feels responsible for every one, also > the health of people in 10'000 years from now. > > > > While all other mentalities, response only for one being and presence > or not even that. > > > > Clearly, in the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is the > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality to those who choose. > > > > lulu > I see your point. But do you dance with eternal time? Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 You don't see my point, you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, if you would see my point, you would see the all realities and all points, Exquisite Harmony is just one point, one fragment of the rainbow. You are more than just a fragment, You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every reality and every point. lulu Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > > > I see your point. > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > The healthy truth. > > In the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is the > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality for everyone. > > > > > > > > lulu > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 You're right, in a sense, I don't see your point. Because, for me, Exquisite Harmony IS absolutely EVERYTHING, The whole universe. How could it possibly Be anything less? Can you explain that To me? > > You don't see my point, > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > if you would see my point, > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every reality and every > point. > > lulu > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is the > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality for everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > The healthy truth. > > > > There are those who say, " nothing is real " , " no one exists " . > > There are those who say " I am one " , " I exist " . > > There are those who say " I am every one " . > > There are those who say " I am seperated and isolated from all others " . > > > > > > Look at it from a healthy future point of view. > > Look at it in 10'000 years from now. > > > > Which reality is the most beneficial for consciousness, awareness and > life on earth? > > > > > > The " I am every one " mentality feels responsible for every one, also > the health of people in 10'000 years from now. > > > > While all other mentalities, response only for one being and presence > or not even that. > > > > Clearly, in the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is the > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality to those who choose. > > > > lulu >The truth-period: " Life on earth " " people 10000 years from now " --all a bunch of imaginary jive. " truth " iself--more jive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > wrote: > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > > > There are those who say, " nothing is real " , " no one exists " . > > > > There are those who say " I am one " , " I exist " . > > > > There are those who say " I am every one " . > > > > There are those who say " I am seperated and isolated from all > others " . > > > > > > > > > > > > Look at it from a healthy future point of view. > > > > Look at it in 10'000 years from now. > > > > > > > > Which reality is the most beneficial for consciousness, awareness > and > > life on earth? > > > > > > > > > > > > The " I am every one " mentality feels responsible for every one, > also > > the health of people in 10'000 years from now. > > > > > > > > While all other mentalities, response only for one being and > presence > > or not even that. > > > > > > > > Clearly, in the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is the > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality to those who > choose. > > > > > > > > lulu > >The truth-period: " Life on earth " " people 10000 years from now " --all > a bunch of imaginary jive. " truth " iself--more jive. there's nothing imaginary about 'jive'. jive is the 'trip the light fantastic'. Diana Krall sings it best: Hit that jive Jack Put it in your pocket till I get back Going downtown to see a man And I ain't got time to shake your hand Hit that jive Jack Put it in your pocket till I get back Time and time waits for no man And I ain't got time to shake your hand Standing on a corner All full of jive But you know that you're my boy So I'm forced to give you five Shadde yadda Hit that jive Jack Put it in your pocket till I get back Going downtown to see a man And I ain't got time to shake your hand .....and that's the jive truth! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > wrote: > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are those who say, " nothing is real " , " no one exists " . > > > > > > There are those who say " I am one " , " I exist " . > > > > > > There are those who say " I am every one " . > > > > > > There are those who say " I am seperated and isolated from all > > others " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Look at it from a healthy future point of view. > > > > > > Look at it in 10'000 years from now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Which reality is the most beneficial for consciousness, awareness > > and > > > life on earth? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The " I am every one " mentality feels responsible for every one, > > also > > > the health of people in 10'000 years from now. > > > > > > > > > > > > While all other mentalities, response only for one being and > > presence > > > or not even that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Clearly, in the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is the > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality to those who > > choose. > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > >The truth-period: " Life on earth " " people 10000 years from now " --all > > a bunch of imaginary jive. " truth " iself--more jive. > > there's nothing imaginary about 'jive'. > > jive is the 'trip the light fantastic'. > > Diana Krall sings it best: > > Hit that jive Jack > Put it in your pocket till I get back > Going downtown to see a man > And I ain't got time to shake your hand > > Hit that jive Jack > Put it in your pocket till I get back > Time and time waits for no man > And I ain't got time to shake your hand > > Standing on a corner > All full of jive > But you know that you're my boy > So I'm forced to give you five > Shadde yadda > > Hit that jive Jack > Put it in your pocket till I get back > Going downtown to see a man > And I ain't got time to shake your hand > > > ....and that's the jive truth! > > .b b.b. > To subvert subtlety Is to play life Jaded: You miss the best parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 See through your mind, out of your eyes, from your point of view, absolutely EVERYTHING, the whole universe is Exquisite Harmony. But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your eyes, and with your mind, try for instance to look through the mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture or pain, the view through their mind will change your Harmony. No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, just realize, that you are not only your own mind and that the universe does not see itself only from your point of view. There are thousand perspectives, you are all these perspectives, Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, one point of view, one state of mind. Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, but you are everyone, you are all states of mind. When your live is over, your Exquisite Harmony, vanishes and makes room for all other perspectives. Unless you teach others, how to experience Exquisite Harmony. You are the total universe all it's feelings and thoughts, and you are not only your own point of view, you are all points of view. Do you remember the time before you experienced Exquisite Harmony? Close to that the universe appears from most other people's perspectives. lulu Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > > You're right, in a sense, > I don't see your point. > > > Because, for me, > Exquisite Harmony > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > The whole universe. > > > How could it possibly > Be anything less? > > Can you explain that > To me? > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every reality and every > > point. > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is the > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality for everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Every point Is a vantage point. I'm just saying that The highest is that of Exquisite Harmony. It is only when perspective Is lost that there is torture, etc. Indeed, that IS The very definition of torture, etc.: The loss of perspective, The fall from Exquisite Harmony -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > > See through your mind, > out of your eyes, > from your point of view, > absolutely EVERYTHING, > the whole universe is > Exquisite Harmony. > > > But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your eyes, > and with your mind, try for instance to look through the > mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture or > pain, the view through their mind will change your Harmony. > > No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, > just realize, > that you are not only your own mind and > that the universe does not see itself > only from your point of view. > > There are thousand perspectives, > you are all these perspectives, > > Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, > one point of view, > one state of mind. > > > > Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, > but you are everyone, > you are all states of mind. > > > When your live is over, > your Exquisite Harmony, > vanishes and makes room for > all other perspectives. > > Unless you teach others, > how to experience Exquisite Harmony. > > > You are the total universe all it's feelings and thoughts, > and you are not only your own point of view, > you are all points of view. > > > Do you remember the time before you experienced Exquisite Harmony? > > Close to that the universe appears from most other people's > perspectives. > > > lulu > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > > > You're right, in a sense, > > I don't see your point. > > > > > > Because, for me, > > Exquisite Harmony > > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > > The whole universe. > > > > > > How could it possibly > > Be anything less? > > > > Can you explain that > > To me? > > > > > > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every reality and > every > > > point. > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is the > > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality for > everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Fine that you have reached the highest point of consciousness. Congratulation, honestly. But what happens if you fall from that point? You will start again from the lowest. Or do you think there is no fall for you? Lulu Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > > > Every point > > Is a vantage point. > > > I'm just saying that > > The highest is that of > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > It is only when perspective > > Is lost that there is torture, etc. > > > Indeed, that IS > > The very definition of torture, etc.: > > > > The loss of perspective, > > The fall from > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > See through your mind, > > out of your eyes, > > from your point of view, > > absolutely EVERYTHING, > > the whole universe is > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your eyes, > > and with your mind, try for instance to look through the > > mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture or > > pain, the view through their mind will change your Harmony. > > > > No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, > > just realize, > > that you are not only your own mind and > > that the universe does not see itself > > only from your point of view. > > > > There are thousand perspectives, > > you are all these perspectives, > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, > > one point of view, > > one state of mind. > > > > > > > > Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, > > but you are everyone, > > you are all states of mind. > > > > > > When your live is over, > > your Exquisite Harmony, > > vanishes and makes room for > > all other perspectives. > > > > Unless you teach others, > > how to experience Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > You are the total universe all it's feelings and thoughts, > > and you are not only your own point of view, > > you are all points of view. > > > > > > Do you remember the time before you experienced Exquisite Harmony? > > > > Close to that the universe appears from most other people's > > perspectives. > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > You're right, in a sense, > > > I don't see your point. > > > > > > > > > Because, for me, > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > The whole universe. > > > > > > > > > How could it possibly > > > Be anything less? > > > > > > Can you explain that > > > To me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every reality and > > every > > > > point. > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is the > > > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality for > > everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Rise and fall Are merely part of dance. The best dance Is spontaneous. There is no Knowing what will Come next. Knowing isn't a graceful Dance sequence. Too staid. -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > Fine that you have reached the highest point of consciousness. > > Congratulation, honestly. > > But what happens if you fall from that point? > > You will start again from the lowest. > > > Or do you think there is no fall for you? > > Lulu > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Every point > > > > Is a vantage point. > > > > > > I'm just saying that > > > > The highest is that of > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > It is only when perspective > > > > Is lost that there is torture, etc. > > > > > > Indeed, that IS > > > > The very definition of torture, etc.: > > > > > > > > The loss of perspective, > > > > The fall from > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > See through your mind, > > > out of your eyes, > > > from your point of view, > > > absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > the whole universe is > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your eyes, > > > and with your mind, try for instance to look through the > > > mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture or > > > pain, the view through their mind will change your Harmony. > > > > > > No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, > > > just realize, > > > that you are not only your own mind and > > > that the universe does not see itself > > > only from your point of view. > > > > > > There are thousand perspectives, > > > you are all these perspectives, > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, > > > one point of view, > > > one state of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, > > > but you are everyone, > > > you are all states of mind. > > > > > > > > > When your live is over, > > > your Exquisite Harmony, > > > vanishes and makes room for > > > all other perspectives. > > > > > > Unless you teach others, > > > how to experience Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > You are the total universe all it's feelings and thoughts, > > > and you are not only your own point of view, > > > you are all points of view. > > > > > > > > > Do you remember the time before you experienced Exquisite > Harmony? > > > > > > Close to that the universe appears from most other people's > > > perspectives. > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You're right, in a sense, > > > > I don't see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > Because, for me, > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > The whole universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > How could it possibly > > > > Be anything less? > > > > > > > > Can you explain that > > > > To me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > > > > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > > > > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > > > > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > > > > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > > > > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every reality > and > > > every > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > <lulu.dong@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is the > > > > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality for > > > everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 You are trapped inside your dancing mind, escape! Your truth does not last. I don't have nothing against your truth, it's wonderful that you have achieved such a high state of conscious awareness, but you are like the anxiety patient who believes there is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the only real and you think your truth is the only truth. Your truth is just one truth, it is high up in the ladder of truths but still the ladder continues, there are higher truths. Be your truth, live your truth, but realize that the truth is a ladder, and start building that ladder, describe the path to your exquisite harmony and pleasure, ... lulu Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > > > Rise and fall > > Are merely part of dance. > > > > The best dance > > Is spontaneous. > > > > There is no > > Knowing what will > > Come next. > > > > Knowing isn't a graceful > > Dance sequence. > > > > Too staid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > Fine that you have reached the highest point of consciousness. > > > > Congratulation, honestly. > > > > But what happens if you fall from that point? > > > > You will start again from the lowest. > > > > > > Or do you think there is no fall for you? > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Every point > > > > > > Is a vantage point. > > > > > > > > > I'm just saying that > > > > > > The highest is that of > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > It is only when perspective > > > > > > Is lost that there is torture, etc. > > > > > > > > > Indeed, that IS > > > > > > The very definition of torture, etc.: > > > > > > > > > > > > The loss of perspective, > > > > > > The fall from > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > See through your mind, > > > > out of your eyes, > > > > from your point of view, > > > > absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > the whole universe is > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your eyes, > > > > and with your mind, try for instance to look through the > > > > mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture or > > > > pain, the view through their mind will change your Harmony. > > > > > > > > No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > just realize, > > > > that you are not only your own mind and > > > > that the universe does not see itself > > > > only from your point of view. > > > > > > > > There are thousand perspectives, > > > > you are all these perspectives, > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, > > > > one point of view, > > > > one state of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, > > > > but you are everyone, > > > > you are all states of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > When your live is over, > > > > your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > vanishes and makes room for > > > > all other perspectives. > > > > > > > > Unless you teach others, > > > > how to experience Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the total universe all it's feelings and thoughts, > > > > and you are not only your own point of view, > > > > you are all points of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you remember the time before you experienced Exquisite > > Harmony? > > > > > > > > Close to that the universe appears from most other people's > > > > perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're right, in a sense, > > > > > I don't see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because, for me, > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > The whole universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How could it possibly > > > > > Be anything less? > > > > > > > > > > Can you explain that > > > > > To me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > > > > > > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > > > > > > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every reality > > and > > > > every > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > > <lulu.dong@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is the > > > > > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality for > > > > everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Snakes and ladders ... PS: If you follow the ladder even higher, it leads back to the beginning, the lowest step, ... the devil snake, death takes you back to the beginning. Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > You are trapped inside your dancing mind, escape! > > Your truth does not last. > > I don't have nothing against your truth, > it's wonderful that you have achieved such a high state of conscious > awareness, but you are like the anxiety patient who believes there > is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the only > real and you think your truth is the only truth. > > Your truth is just one truth, it is high up in the ladder of truths > but still the ladder continues, there are higher truths. > > Be your truth, live your truth, but realize that the truth is a > ladder, and start building that ladder, describe the path to your > exquisite harmony and pleasure, ... > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Rise and fall > > > > Are merely part of dance. > > > > > > > > The best dance > > > > Is spontaneous. > > > > > > > > There is no > > > > Knowing what will > > > > Come next. > > > > > > > > Knowing isn't a graceful > > > > Dance sequence. > > > > > > > > Too staid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > Fine that you have reached the highest point of consciousness. > > > > > > Congratulation, honestly. > > > > > > But what happens if you fall from that point? > > > > > > You will start again from the lowest. > > > > > > > > > Or do you think there is no fall for you? > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every point > > > > > > > > Is a vantage point. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just saying that > > > > > > > > The highest is that of > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only when perspective > > > > > > > > Is lost that there is torture, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, that IS > > > > > > > > The very definition of torture, etc.: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The loss of perspective, > > > > > > > > The fall from > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See through your mind, > > > > > out of your eyes, > > > > > from your point of view, > > > > > absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > the whole universe is > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your eyes, > > > > > and with your mind, try for instance to look through the > > > > > mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture or > > > > > pain, the view through their mind will change your Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > just realize, > > > > > that you are not only your own mind and > > > > > that the universe does not see itself > > > > > only from your point of view. > > > > > > > > > > There are thousand perspectives, > > > > > you are all these perspectives, > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, > > > > > one point of view, > > > > > one state of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, > > > > > but you are everyone, > > > > > you are all states of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When your live is over, > > > > > your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > vanishes and makes room for > > > > > all other perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > Unless you teach others, > > > > > how to experience Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the total universe all it's feelings and thoughts, > > > > > and you are not only your own point of view, > > > > > you are all points of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you remember the time before you experienced Exquisite > > > Harmony? > > > > > > > > > > Close to that the universe appears from most other people's > > > > > perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're right, in a sense, > > > > > > I don't see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because, for me, > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > The whole universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How could it possibly > > > > > > Be anything less? > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you explain that > > > > > > To me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every > reality > > > and > > > > > every > > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > <skywords@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > > > <lulu.dong@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is > the > > > > > > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality > for > > > > > everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " zen_mirror " <zen_mirror wrote: > > Snakes and ladders ... > > PS: If you follow the ladder even higher, it leads back to the > beginning, the lowest step, ... the devil snake, death takes you > back to the beginning. Beautiful! and how if Everything is Always and Forever Perfect... in Exquisite Harmony (he he!) how does anything or anyone 'fall out' of it. they'd just be landing in som additional Perfection and Harmony. there is after all nothing else. maybe with a little back beat..you CAN'T Lose it. just give me some of that Rock and Roll Music! and...watch out now for little pricks attacking. LOL! ..b b.b. *****************************NNB******************************************* > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > wrote: > > > > You are trapped inside your dancing mind, escape! > > > > Your truth does not last. > > > > I don't have nothing against your truth, > > it's wonderful that you have achieved such a high state of > conscious > > awareness, but you are like the anxiety patient who believes there > > is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the > only > > real and you think your truth is the only truth. > > > > Your truth is just one truth, it is high up in the ladder of > truths > > but still the ladder continues, there are higher truths. > > > > Be your truth, live your truth, but realize that the truth is a > > ladder, and start building that ladder, describe the path to your > > exquisite harmony and pleasure, ... > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rise and fall > > > > > > Are merely part of dance. > > > > > > > > > > > > The best dance > > > > > > Is spontaneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no > > > > > > Knowing what will > > > > > > Come next. > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowing isn't a graceful > > > > > > Dance sequence. > > > > > > > > > > > > Too staid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Fine that you have reached the highest point of consciousness. > > > > > > > > Congratulation, honestly. > > > > > > > > But what happens if you fall from that point? > > > > > > > > You will start again from the lowest. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or do you think there is no fall for you? > > > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every point > > > > > > > > > > Is a vantage point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just saying that > > > > > > > > > > The highest is that of > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only when perspective > > > > > > > > > > Is lost that there is torture, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, that IS > > > > > > > > > > The very definition of torture, etc.: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The loss of perspective, > > > > > > > > > > The fall from > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See through your mind, > > > > > > out of your eyes, > > > > > > from your point of view, > > > > > > absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > the whole universe is > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your eyes, > > > > > > and with your mind, try for instance to look through the > > > > > > mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture or > > > > > > pain, the view through their mind will change your Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > just realize, > > > > > > that you are not only your own mind and > > > > > > that the universe does not see itself > > > > > > only from your point of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are thousand perspectives, > > > > > > you are all these perspectives, > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, > > > > > > one point of view, > > > > > > one state of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, > > > > > > but you are everyone, > > > > > > you are all states of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When your live is over, > > > > > > your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > vanishes and makes room for > > > > > > all other perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless you teach others, > > > > > > how to experience Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the total universe all it's feelings and thoughts, > > > > > > and you are not only your own point of view, > > > > > > you are all points of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you remember the time before you experienced Exquisite > > > > Harmony? > > > > > > > > > > > > Close to that the universe appears from most other > people's > > > > > > perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > <skywords@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're right, in a sense, > > > > > > > I don't see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because, for me, > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > > The whole universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How could it possibly > > > > > > > Be anything less? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you explain that > > > > > > > To me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every > > reality > > > > and > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > <skywords@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > > > > <lulu.dong@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is > > the > > > > > > > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality > > for > > > > > > everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > You are trapped inside your dancing mind, escape! > > Your truth does not last. > > I don't have nothing against your truth, > it's wonderful that you have achieved such a high state of conscious > awareness, but you are like the anxiety patient who believes there > is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the only > real and you think your truth is the only truth. > > Your truth is just one truth, it is high up in the ladder of truths > but still the ladder continues, there are higher truths. > > Be your truth, live your truth, but realize that the truth is a > ladder, and start building that ladder, describe the path to your > exquisite harmony and pleasure, ... > > lulu no gong on this one mr. dong. you're a peach lulu..and i'm beginning to like you a lot. you sure have the right stuff on that punk: " like the anxiety patient who believes there is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the only real and you think your truth is the only truth. " ROFLMAO! :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Who told you that everything is Always and Forever Perfect Harmony? Scratching my head ... Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > > Beautiful! > > and how if Everything is Always and Forever Perfect... > > in Exquisite Harmony (he he!) > > how does anything or anyone 'fall out' of it. > > they'd just be landing in som additional Perfection and Harmony. > > there is after all nothing else. > > maybe with a little back beat..you CAN'T Lose it. > > just give me some of that Rock and Roll Music! > > and...watch out now for little pricks attacking. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > > > > *****************************NNB************************************* ****** > Nisargadatta , " zen_mirror " <zen_mirror@> wrote: > > > > Snakes and ladders ... > > > > PS: If you follow the ladder even higher, it leads back to the > > beginning, the lowest step, ... the devil snake, death takes you > > back to the beginning. > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > wrote: > > > > > > You are trapped inside your dancing mind, escape! > > > > > > Your truth does not last. > > > > > > I don't have nothing against your truth, > > > it's wonderful that you have achieved such a high state of > > conscious > > > awareness, but you are like the anxiety patient who believes there > > > is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the > > only > > > real and you think your truth is the only truth. > > > > > > Your truth is just one truth, it is high up in the ladder of > > truths > > > but still the ladder continues, there are higher truths. > > > > > > Be your truth, live your truth, but realize that the truth is a > > > ladder, and start building that ladder, describe the path to your > > > exquisite harmony and pleasure, ... > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rise and fall > > > > > > > > Are merely part of dance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The best dance > > > > > > > > Is spontaneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no > > > > > > > > Knowing what will > > > > > > > > Come next. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowing isn't a graceful > > > > > > > > Dance sequence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too staid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Fine that you have reached the highest point of consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > Congratulation, honestly. > > > > > > > > > > But what happens if you fall from that point? > > > > > > > > > > You will start again from the lowest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or do you think there is no fall for you? > > > > > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every point > > > > > > > > > > > > Is a vantage point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just saying that > > > > > > > > > > > > The highest is that of > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only when perspective > > > > > > > > > > > > Is lost that there is torture, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, that IS > > > > > > > > > > > > The very definition of torture, etc.: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The loss of perspective, > > > > > > > > > > > > The fall from > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See through your mind, > > > > > > > out of your eyes, > > > > > > > from your point of view, > > > > > > > absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > > the whole universe is > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your eyes, > > > > > > > and with your mind, try for instance to look through the > > > > > > > mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture or > > > > > > > pain, the view through their mind will change your Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > > just realize, > > > > > > > that you are not only your own mind and > > > > > > > that the universe does not see itself > > > > > > > only from your point of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are thousand perspectives, > > > > > > > you are all these perspectives, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, > > > > > > > one point of view, > > > > > > > one state of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, > > > > > > > but you are everyone, > > > > > > > you are all states of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When your live is over, > > > > > > > your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > > vanishes and makes room for > > > > > > > all other perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless you teach others, > > > > > > > how to experience Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the total universe all it's feelings and thoughts, > > > > > > > and you are not only your own point of view, > > > > > > > you are all points of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you remember the time before you experienced Exquisite > > > > > Harmony? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Close to that the universe appears from most other > > people's > > > > > > > perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're right, in a sense, > > > > > > > > I don't see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because, for me, > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > > > The whole universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How could it possibly > > > > > > > > Be anything less? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you explain that > > > > > > > > To me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every > > > reality > > > > > and > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > > > > > <lulu.dong@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > > > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality > > > for > > > > > > > everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 That's not my experience, Lulu. But I appreciate your efforts To help me and others. You have a good heart. Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > You are trapped inside your dancing mind, escape! > > Your truth does not last. > > I don't have nothing against your truth, > it's wonderful that you have achieved such a high state of conscious > awareness, but you are like the anxiety patient who believes there > is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the only > real and you think your truth is the only truth. > > Your truth is just one truth, it is high up in the ladder of truths > but still the ladder continues, there are higher truths. > > Be your truth, live your truth, but realize that the truth is a > ladder, and start building that ladder, describe the path to your > exquisite harmony and pleasure, ... > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Rise and fall > > > > Are merely part of dance. > > > > > > > > The best dance > > > > Is spontaneous. > > > > > > > > There is no > > > > Knowing what will > > > > Come next. > > > > > > > > Knowing isn't a graceful > > > > Dance sequence. > > > > > > > > Too staid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > Fine that you have reached the highest point of consciousness. > > > > > > Congratulation, honestly. > > > > > > But what happens if you fall from that point? > > > > > > You will start again from the lowest. > > > > > > > > > Or do you think there is no fall for you? > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every point > > > > > > > > Is a vantage point. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just saying that > > > > > > > > The highest is that of > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only when perspective > > > > > > > > Is lost that there is torture, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, that IS > > > > > > > > The very definition of torture, etc.: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The loss of perspective, > > > > > > > > The fall from > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See through your mind, > > > > > out of your eyes, > > > > > from your point of view, > > > > > absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > the whole universe is > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your eyes, > > > > > and with your mind, try for instance to look through the > > > > > mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture or > > > > > pain, the view through their mind will change your Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > just realize, > > > > > that you are not only your own mind and > > > > > that the universe does not see itself > > > > > only from your point of view. > > > > > > > > > > There are thousand perspectives, > > > > > you are all these perspectives, > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, > > > > > one point of view, > > > > > one state of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, > > > > > but you are everyone, > > > > > you are all states of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When your live is over, > > > > > your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > vanishes and makes room for > > > > > all other perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > Unless you teach others, > > > > > how to experience Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the total universe all it's feelings and thoughts, > > > > > and you are not only your own point of view, > > > > > you are all points of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you remember the time before you experienced Exquisite > > > Harmony? > > > > > > > > > > Close to that the universe appears from most other people's > > > > > perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're right, in a sense, > > > > > > I don't see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because, for me, > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > The whole universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How could it possibly > > > > > > Be anything less? > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you explain that > > > > > > To me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every > reality > > > and > > > > > every > > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > <skywords@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > > > <lulu.dong@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is > the > > > > > > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality > for > > > > > everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " zen_mirror " <zen_mirror@> wrote: > > > > Snakes and ladders ... > > > > PS: If you follow the ladder even higher, it leads back to the > > beginning, the lowest step, ... the devil snake, death takes you > > back to the beginning. > > > > Beautiful! > > and how if Everything is Always and Forever Perfect... > > in Exquisite Harmony (he he!) > > how does anything or anyone 'fall out' of it. > > they'd just be landing in som additional Perfection and Harmony. > > there is after all nothing else. > > maybe with a little back beat..you CAN'T Lose it. > > just give me some of that Rock and Roll Music! > > and...watch out now for little pricks attacking. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. fierce > > > > *****************************NNB******************************************* > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > wrote: > > > > > > You are trapped inside your dancing mind, escape! > > > > > > Your truth does not last. > > > > > > I don't have nothing against your truth, > > > it's wonderful that you have achieved such a high state of > > conscious > > > awareness, but you are like the anxiety patient who believes there > > > is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the > > only > > > real and you think your truth is the only truth. > > > > > > Your truth is just one truth, it is high up in the ladder of > > truths > > > but still the ladder continues, there are higher truths. > > > > > > Be your truth, live your truth, but realize that the truth is a > > > ladder, and start building that ladder, describe the path to your > > > exquisite harmony and pleasure, ... > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rise and fall > > > > > > > > Are merely part of dance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The best dance > > > > > > > > Is spontaneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no > > > > > > > > Knowing what will > > > > > > > > Come next. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowing isn't a graceful > > > > > > > > Dance sequence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too staid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Fine that you have reached the highest point of consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > Congratulation, honestly. > > > > > > > > > > But what happens if you fall from that point? > > > > > > > > > > You will start again from the lowest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or do you think there is no fall for you? > > > > > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every point > > > > > > > > > > > > Is a vantage point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just saying that > > > > > > > > > > > > The highest is that of > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only when perspective > > > > > > > > > > > > Is lost that there is torture, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, that IS > > > > > > > > > > > > The very definition of torture, etc.: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The loss of perspective, > > > > > > > > > > > > The fall from > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See through your mind, > > > > > > > out of your eyes, > > > > > > > from your point of view, > > > > > > > absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > > the whole universe is > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your eyes, > > > > > > > and with your mind, try for instance to look through the > > > > > > > mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture or > > > > > > > pain, the view through their mind will change your Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > > just realize, > > > > > > > that you are not only your own mind and > > > > > > > that the universe does not see itself > > > > > > > only from your point of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are thousand perspectives, > > > > > > > you are all these perspectives, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, > > > > > > > one point of view, > > > > > > > one state of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, > > > > > > > but you are everyone, > > > > > > > you are all states of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When your live is over, > > > > > > > your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > > vanishes and makes room for > > > > > > > all other perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless you teach others, > > > > > > > how to experience Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the total universe all it's feelings and thoughts, > > > > > > > and you are not only your own point of view, > > > > > > > you are all points of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you remember the time before you experienced Exquisite > > > > > Harmony? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Close to that the universe appears from most other > > people's > > > > > > > perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're right, in a sense, > > > > > > > > I don't see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because, for me, > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > > > The whole universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How could it possibly > > > > > > > > Be anything less? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you explain that > > > > > > > > To me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every > > > reality > > > > > and > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > > > > > <lulu.dong@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > > > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality > > > for > > > > > > > everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " zen_mirror " <zen_mirror@> wrote: > > > > > > Snakes and ladders ... > > > > > > PS: If you follow the ladder even higher, it leads back to the > > > beginning, the lowest step, ... the devil snake, death takes you > > > back to the beginning. > > > > > > > > Beautiful! > > > > and how if Everything is Always and Forever Perfect... > > > > in Exquisite Harmony (he he!) > > > > how does anything or anyone 'fall out' of it. > > > > they'd just be landing in som additional Perfection and Harmony. > > > > there is after all nothing else. > > > > maybe with a little back beat..you CAN'T Lose it. > > > > just give me some of that Rock and Roll Music! > > > > and...watch out now for little pricks attacking. > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > fierce as predicted! damn i'm good... no..make that i am Great! and someone is obviously a little prick. god you're dumb. LOL! ..b b.b. *****************************NNB******************************************* > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > You are trapped inside your dancing mind, escape! > > > > > > > > Your truth does not last. > > > > > > > > I don't have nothing against your truth, > > > > it's wonderful that you have achieved such a high state of > > > conscious > > > > awareness, but you are like the anxiety patient who believes there > > > > is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the > > > only > > > > real and you think your truth is the only truth. > > > > > > > > Your truth is just one truth, it is high up in the ladder of > > > truths > > > > but still the ladder continues, there are higher truths. > > > > > > > > Be your truth, live your truth, but realize that the truth is a > > > > ladder, and start building that ladder, describe the path to your > > > > exquisite harmony and pleasure, ... > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rise and fall > > > > > > > > > > Are merely part of dance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The best dance > > > > > > > > > > Is spontaneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no > > > > > > > > > > Knowing what will > > > > > > > > > > Come next. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowing isn't a graceful > > > > > > > > > > Dance sequence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too staid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Fine that you have reached the highest point of consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulation, honestly. > > > > > > > > > > > > But what happens if you fall from that point? > > > > > > > > > > > > You will start again from the lowest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or do you think there is no fall for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every point > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is a vantage point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just saying that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The highest is that of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only when perspective > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is lost that there is torture, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, that IS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The very definition of torture, etc.: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The loss of perspective, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fall from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See through your mind, > > > > > > > > out of your eyes, > > > > > > > > from your point of view, > > > > > > > > absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > > > the whole universe is > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your eyes, > > > > > > > > and with your mind, try for instance to look through the > > > > > > > > mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture or > > > > > > > > pain, the view through their mind will change your Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > > > just realize, > > > > > > > > that you are not only your own mind and > > > > > > > > that the universe does not see itself > > > > > > > > only from your point of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are thousand perspectives, > > > > > > > > you are all these perspectives, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, > > > > > > > > one point of view, > > > > > > > > one state of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, > > > > > > > > but you are everyone, > > > > > > > > you are all states of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When your live is over, > > > > > > > > your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > > > vanishes and makes room for > > > > > > > > all other perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless you teach others, > > > > > > > > how to experience Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the total universe all it's feelings and thoughts, > > > > > > > > and you are not only your own point of view, > > > > > > > > you are all points of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you remember the time before you experienced Exquisite > > > > > > Harmony? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Close to that the universe appears from most other > > > people's > > > > > > > > perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're right, in a sense, > > > > > > > > > I don't see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because, for me, > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > > > > The whole universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How could it possibly > > > > > > > > > Be anything less? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you explain that > > > > > > > > > To me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every > > > > reality > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > > > > > > <lulu.dong@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality > > > > for > > > > > > > > everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > You are trapped inside your dancing mind, escape! > > > > > > Your truth does not last. > > > > > > I don't have nothing against your truth, > > > it's wonderful that you have achieved such a high state of conscious > > > awareness, but you are like the anxiety patient who believes there > > > is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the only > > > real and you think your truth is the only truth. > > > > > > Your truth is just one truth, it is high up in the ladder of truths > > > but still the ladder continues, there are higher truths. > > > > > > Be your truth, live your truth, but realize that the truth is a > > > ladder, and start building that ladder, describe the path to your > > > exquisite harmony and pleasure, ... > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > no gong on this one mr. dong. > > > > you're a peach lulu..and i'm beginning to like you a lot. > > > > you sure have the right stuff on that punk: > > > > " like the anxiety patient who believes there is nothing other than > > anxiety, they think their reality is the only real and you think your > > truth is the only truth. " > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > mirror you keep looking into it don't you creepo? ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " zen_mirror " <zen_mirror@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Snakes and ladders ... > > > > > > > > PS: If you follow the ladder even higher, it leads back to the > > > > beginning, the lowest step, ... the devil snake, death takes you > > > > back to the beginning. > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiful! > > > > > > and how if Everything is Always and Forever Perfect... > > > > > > in Exquisite Harmony (he he!) > > > > > > how does anything or anyone 'fall out' of it. > > > > > > they'd just be landing in som additional Perfection and Harmony. > > > > > > there is after all nothing else. > > > > > > maybe with a little back beat..you CAN'T Lose it. > > > > > > just give me some of that Rock and Roll Music! > > > > > > and...watch out now for little pricks attacking. > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fierce > > > as predicted! > > damn i'm good... > > no..make that i am Great! > > and someone is obviously a little prick. > > god you're dumb. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. " delusional " > > > > > > > *****************************NNB******************************************* > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You are trapped inside your dancing mind, escape! > > > > > > > > > > Your truth does not last. > > > > > > > > > > I don't have nothing against your truth, > > > > > it's wonderful that you have achieved such a high state of > > > > conscious > > > > > awareness, but you are like the anxiety patient who believes > there > > > > > is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the > > > > only > > > > > real and you think your truth is the only truth. > > > > > > > > > > Your truth is just one truth, it is high up in the ladder of > > > > truths > > > > > but still the ladder continues, there are higher truths. > > > > > > > > > > Be your truth, live your truth, but realize that the truth is a > > > > > ladder, and start building that ladder, describe the path to your > > > > > exquisite harmony and pleasure, ... > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rise and fall > > > > > > > > > > > > Are merely part of dance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The best dance > > > > > > > > > > > > Is spontaneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowing what will > > > > > > > > > > > > Come next. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowing isn't a graceful > > > > > > > > > > > > Dance sequence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too staid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fine that you have reached the highest point of consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulation, honestly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what happens if you fall from that point? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will start again from the lowest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or do you think there is no fall for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every point > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is a vantage point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just saying that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The highest is that of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only when perspective > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is lost that there is torture, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, that IS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The very definition of torture, etc.: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The loss of perspective, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fall from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > <lulu.dong@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See through your mind, > > > > > > > > > out of your eyes, > > > > > > > > > from your point of view, > > > > > > > > > absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > > > > the whole universe is > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your > eyes, > > > > > > > > > and with your mind, try for instance to look through the > > > > > > > > > mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture or > > > > > > > > > pain, the view through their mind will change your > Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > > > > just realize, > > > > > > > > > that you are not only your own mind and > > > > > > > > > that the universe does not see itself > > > > > > > > > only from your point of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are thousand perspectives, > > > > > > > > > you are all these perspectives, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, > > > > > > > > > one point of view, > > > > > > > > > one state of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, > > > > > > > > > but you are everyone, > > > > > > > > > you are all states of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When your live is over, > > > > > > > > > your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > > > > vanishes and makes room for > > > > > > > > > all other perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless you teach others, > > > > > > > > > how to experience Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the total universe all it's feelings and > thoughts, > > > > > > > > > and you are not only your own point of view, > > > > > > > > > you are all points of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you remember the time before you experienced Exquisite > > > > > > > Harmony? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Close to that the universe appears from most other > > > > people's > > > > > > > > > perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're right, in a sense, > > > > > > > > > > I don't see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because, for me, > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > > > > > The whole universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How could it possibly > > > > > > > > > > Be anything less? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you explain that > > > > > > > > > > To me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every > > > > > reality > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > > > > > > > <lulu.dong@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " > mentality is > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You are trapped inside your dancing mind, escape! > > > > > > > > Your truth does not last. > > > > > > > > I don't have nothing against your truth, > > > > it's wonderful that you have achieved such a high state of > conscious > > > > awareness, but you are like the anxiety patient who believes there > > > > is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the only > > > > real and you think your truth is the only truth. > > > > > > > > Your truth is just one truth, it is high up in the ladder of truths > > > > but still the ladder continues, there are higher truths. > > > > > > > > Be your truth, live your truth, but realize that the truth is a > > > > ladder, and start building that ladder, describe the path to your > > > > exquisite harmony and pleasure, ... > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > no gong on this one mr. dong. > > > > > > you're a peach lulu..and i'm beginning to like you a lot. > > > > > > you sure have the right stuff on that punk: > > > > > > " like the anxiety patient who believes there is nothing other than > > > anxiety, they think their reality is the only real and you think your > > > truth is the only truth. " > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > mirror > > > you keep looking into it don't you creepo? > > .b b.b. > " creepo " ? mirror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong wrote: > > > > Who told you that everything is Always and Forever Perfect Harmony? > > Scratching my head ... oh some little dumb ass who goes by a few stupid handles..even strung out letters sometimes. look back at your own thread lulu and you might get a hint as to the nitwit's i.d. all of his names are to hide his cowardly fear of who he really is. and...i can't blame him really...considering who he is and just how 'perfectly' stupid he is too. ..b b.b. > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Beautiful! > > > > and how if Everything is Always and Forever Perfect... > > > > in Exquisite Harmony (he he!) > > > > how does anything or anyone 'fall out' of it. > > > > they'd just be landing in som additional Perfection and Harmony. > > > > there is after all nothing else. > > > > maybe with a little back beat..you CAN'T Lose it. > > > > just give me some of that Rock and Roll Music! > > > > and...watch out now for little pricks attacking. > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > *****************************NNB************************************* > ****** > > Nisargadatta , " zen_mirror " <zen_mirror@> > wrote: > > > > > > Snakes and ladders ... > > > > > > PS: If you follow the ladder even higher, it leads back to the > > > beginning, the lowest step, ... the devil snake, death takes you > > > back to the beginning. > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > You are trapped inside your dancing mind, escape! > > > > > > > > Your truth does not last. > > > > > > > > I don't have nothing against your truth, > > > > it's wonderful that you have achieved such a high state of > > > conscious > > > > awareness, but you are like the anxiety patient who believes > there > > > > is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the > > > only > > > > real and you think your truth is the only truth. > > > > > > > > Your truth is just one truth, it is high up in the ladder of > > > truths > > > > but still the ladder continues, there are higher truths. > > > > > > > > Be your truth, live your truth, but realize that the truth is > a > > > > ladder, and start building that ladder, describe the path to > your > > > > exquisite harmony and pleasure, ... > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rise and fall > > > > > > > > > > Are merely part of dance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The best dance > > > > > > > > > > Is spontaneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no > > > > > > > > > > Knowing what will > > > > > > > > > > Come next. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowing isn't a graceful > > > > > > > > > > Dance sequence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too staid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Fine that you have reached the highest point of > consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulation, honestly. > > > > > > > > > > > > But what happens if you fall from that point? > > > > > > > > > > > > You will start again from the lowest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or do you think there is no fall for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > <skywords@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every point > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is a vantage point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just saying that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The highest is that of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only when perspective > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is lost that there is torture, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, that IS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The very definition of torture, etc.: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The loss of perspective, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fall from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > <lulu.dong@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See through your mind, > > > > > > > > out of your eyes, > > > > > > > > from your point of view, > > > > > > > > absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > > > the whole universe is > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your > eyes, > > > > > > > > and with your mind, try for instance to look through > the > > > > > > > > mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture > or > > > > > > > > pain, the view through their mind will change your > Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > > > just realize, > > > > > > > > that you are not only your own mind and > > > > > > > > that the universe does not see itself > > > > > > > > only from your point of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are thousand perspectives, > > > > > > > > you are all these perspectives, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, > > > > > > > > one point of view, > > > > > > > > one state of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, > > > > > > > > but you are everyone, > > > > > > > > you are all states of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When your live is over, > > > > > > > > your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > > > vanishes and makes room for > > > > > > > > all other perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless you teach others, > > > > > > > > how to experience Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the total universe all it's feelings and > thoughts, > > > > > > > > and you are not only your own point of view, > > > > > > > > you are all points of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you remember the time before you experienced > Exquisite > > > > > > Harmony? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Close to that the universe appears from most other > > > people's > > > > > > > > perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're right, in a sense, > > > > > > > > > I don't see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because, for me, > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > > > > The whole universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How could it possibly > > > > > > > > > Be anything less? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you explain that > > > > > > > > > To me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, > every > > > > reality > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > > > > > > <lulu.dong@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " > mentality is > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial > reality > > > > for > > > > > > > > everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Displaying our Generous and Grandeous Love Again, Are we, Bob? Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Who told you that everything is Always and Forever Perfect Harmony? > > > > Scratching my head ... > > > > > oh some little dumb ass who goes by a few stupid handles..even strung > out letters sometimes. > > look back at your own thread lulu and you might get a hint as to the > nitwit's i.d. > > all of his names are to hide his cowardly fear of who he really is. > > and...i can't blame him really...considering who he is and just how > 'perfectly' stupid he is too. > > .b b.b. > > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiful! > > > > > > and how if Everything is Always and Forever Perfect... > > > > > > in Exquisite Harmony (he he!) > > > > > > how does anything or anyone 'fall out' of it. > > > > > > they'd just be landing in som additional Perfection and Harmony. > > > > > > there is after all nothing else. > > > > > > maybe with a little back beat..you CAN'T Lose it. > > > > > > just give me some of that Rock and Roll Music! > > > > > > and...watch out now for little pricks attacking. > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *****************************NNB************************************* > > ****** > > > Nisargadatta , " zen_mirror " <zen_mirror@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Snakes and ladders ... > > > > > > > > PS: If you follow the ladder even higher, it leads back to the > > > > beginning, the lowest step, ... the devil snake, death takes you > > > > back to the beginning. > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You are trapped inside your dancing mind, escape! > > > > > > > > > > Your truth does not last. > > > > > > > > > > I don't have nothing against your truth, > > > > > it's wonderful that you have achieved such a high state of > > > > conscious > > > > > awareness, but you are like the anxiety patient who believes > > there > > > > > is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the > > > > only > > > > > real and you think your truth is the only truth. > > > > > > > > > > Your truth is just one truth, it is high up in the ladder of > > > > truths > > > > > but still the ladder continues, there are higher truths. > > > > > > > > > > Be your truth, live your truth, but realize that the truth is > > a > > > > > ladder, and start building that ladder, describe the path to > > your > > > > > exquisite harmony and pleasure, ... > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rise and fall > > > > > > > > > > > > Are merely part of dance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The best dance > > > > > > > > > > > > Is spontaneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowing what will > > > > > > > > > > > > Come next. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowing isn't a graceful > > > > > > > > > > > > Dance sequence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too staid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fine that you have reached the highest point of > > consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulation, honestly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what happens if you fall from that point? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will start again from the lowest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or do you think there is no fall for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every point > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is a vantage point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just saying that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The highest is that of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only when perspective > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is lost that there is torture, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, that IS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The very definition of torture, etc.: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The loss of perspective, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fall from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > > <lulu.dong@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See through your mind, > > > > > > > > > out of your eyes, > > > > > > > > > from your point of view, > > > > > > > > > absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > > > > the whole universe is > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your > > eyes, > > > > > > > > > and with your mind, try for instance to look through > > the > > > > > > > > > mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture > > or > > > > > > > > > pain, the view through their mind will change your > > Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > > > > just realize, > > > > > > > > > that you are not only your own mind and > > > > > > > > > that the universe does not see itself > > > > > > > > > only from your point of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are thousand perspectives, > > > > > > > > > you are all these perspectives, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, > > > > > > > > > one point of view, > > > > > > > > > one state of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, > > > > > > > > > but you are everyone, > > > > > > > > > you are all states of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When your live is over, > > > > > > > > > your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > > > > vanishes and makes room for > > > > > > > > > all other perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless you teach others, > > > > > > > > > how to experience Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the total universe all it's feelings and > > thoughts, > > > > > > > > > and you are not only your own point of view, > > > > > > > > > you are all points of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you remember the time before you experienced > > Exquisite > > > > > > > Harmony? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Close to that the universe appears from most other > > > > people's > > > > > > > > > perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're right, in a sense, > > > > > > > > > > I don't see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because, for me, > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > > > > > The whole universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How could it possibly > > > > > > > > > > Be anything less? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you explain that > > > > > > > > > > To me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, > > every > > > > > reality > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > > > > > > > <lulu.dong@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " > > mentality is > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial > > reality > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 And I appreciate your open mind and your willingness to experience more than one truth. lulu Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > > > That's not my experience, Lulu. > > But I appreciate your efforts > > To help me and others. > > You have a good heart. > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > You are trapped inside your dancing mind, escape! > > > > Your truth does not last. > > > > I don't have nothing against your truth, > > it's wonderful that you have achieved such a high state of conscious > > awareness, but you are like the anxiety patient who believes there > > is nothing other than anxiety, they think their reality is the only > > real and you think your truth is the only truth. > > > > Your truth is just one truth, it is high up in the ladder of truths > > but still the ladder continues, there are higher truths. > > > > Be your truth, live your truth, but realize that the truth is a > > ladder, and start building that ladder, describe the path to your > > exquisite harmony and pleasure, ... > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rise and fall > > > > > > Are merely part of dance. > > > > > > > > > > > > The best dance > > > > > > Is spontaneous. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no > > > > > > Knowing what will > > > > > > Come next. > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowing isn't a graceful > > > > > > Dance sequence. > > > > > > > > > > > > Too staid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Fine that you have reached the highest point of consciousness. > > > > > > > > Congratulation, honestly. > > > > > > > > But what happens if you fall from that point? > > > > > > > > You will start again from the lowest. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or do you think there is no fall for you? > > > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every point > > > > > > > > > > Is a vantage point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just saying that > > > > > > > > > > The highest is that of > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is only when perspective > > > > > > > > > > Is lost that there is torture, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, that IS > > > > > > > > > > The very definition of torture, etc.: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The loss of perspective, > > > > > > > > > > The fall from > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " <lulu.dong@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See through your mind, > > > > > > out of your eyes, > > > > > > from your point of view, > > > > > > absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > the whole universe is > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this Exquisite Harmony is seen only through your eyes, > > > > > > and with your mind, try for instance to look through the > > > > > > mind of eyes of someone experiencing anxiety, torture or > > > > > > pain, the view through their mind will change your Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to change your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > just realize, > > > > > > that you are not only your own mind and > > > > > > that the universe does not see itself > > > > > > only from your point of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are thousand perspectives, > > > > > > you are all these perspectives, > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one perspective, > > > > > > one point of view, > > > > > > one state of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not everyone experiences this same state of mind, > > > > > > but you are everyone, > > > > > > you are all states of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When your live is over, > > > > > > your Exquisite Harmony, > > > > > > vanishes and makes room for > > > > > > all other perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless you teach others, > > > > > > how to experience Exquisite Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the total universe all it's feelings and thoughts, > > > > > > and you are not only your own point of view, > > > > > > you are all points of view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you remember the time before you experienced Exquisite > > > > Harmony? > > > > > > > > > > > > Close to that the universe appears from most other people's > > > > > > perspectives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're right, in a sense, > > > > > > > I don't see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because, for me, > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony > > > > > > > IS absolutely EVERYTHING, > > > > > > > The whole universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How could it possibly > > > > > > > Be anything less? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you explain that > > > > > > > To me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...dong wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you see Exquisite Harmony, your own reality point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you would see my point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you would see the all realities and all points, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exquisite Harmony is just one point, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one fragment of the rainbow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are more than just a fragment, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the entire rainbow, you are everyone, every > > reality > > > > and > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > <skywords@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But do you dance with eternal time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because when you feel the harmony of the flow, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I Am Exquisite Harmony. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lulu.dong " > > > > <lulu.dong@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The healthy truth. > > > > > > > > > > In the long run, the " I am every one " mentality is > > the > > > > > > > > > > healthiest, happiest, and most beneficial reality > > for > > > > > > everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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