Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 ..... the ultimate truth, the final truth, the contageous truth, the addictive truth, the viral truth, the brutal truth, the honest truth, the evil truth, the most accurate truth, the truth which includes all other truths, the isolated lonely truth, the never possible truth, the always the same truth, the always changing truth .... Cycling on saturday? I don't think so. How can I respect those who disrespect each other? Is showing them respect, showing disrespect and rudeness? I find it great that there is so much going on here on Nisargadatta's. The classroom is full of chaos, the teachers sit quite and silent in the back, and no one even notices their presence. At least I don't. Most of them don't even realize that the class has already started. In other rooms, there is silence, pure silence, this one somewhat attracts my attention, because the sign on the door says, come and seek truth. So I enter the door, to find pure chaos. Is this the chaos teaching class, I ask the teacher? All the students shout, there is no teacher! No teacher? Right, that's what I came here to learn, the no teaching. No, you're in the wrong room, shouts the class. What wrong room? Is this the wrong class? You're in the wrong class. Shouts the wrong class. I'm in the wrong class? Oh, that's right, I was taking no lessons, and now I learn the wrong truth. Can you show me the wrong door to the wrong room? The students show me the door but it is a mirror. Is it true? Is what you say, the truth? Am I all there is in that mirror? The students seem disrespectful and rude, but maybe the students are my teachers. Teachers of the wrong truth.Right, this is where I belong, in the wrong class, in the wrong room, teaching the wrong truth. And the wrong truth is what I want to learn. What is the wrong truth?The teachers teach me disrespect. Fine, so I respect their rudeness, I respect their disrespect. Must I now teach disrespect also? Is showing them respect, showing disrespect and rudeness? So I respectfully disrespect them. But I don't understand their teaching! What is their message, what is their TRUTH? The No truth?The wrong truth? What is the wrong truth?And how come they teach it in the wrong class? Ah the wrong truth! You mean the wrong truth! That's right, I was coming to learn the wrong truth. I hear someone teaching, but what do they teach? And whom? I don't understand the meaning of their words.I don't understand the meaning of their truth. But there must be meaning, there is meaning everywhere. I know, but where there is meaning in everything, there is silence, and silence is not what I want, I want chaos and noise. I want messages to be read and answered. I want discussions, even if they are disrespectful. Maybe not, I just want presence, the presence of attention, the presence of gods people, I want to know, that my thoughts are being noticed, I want feedback and answers so that I can grow and refine my knowledge. I love hehehe's and hahaha's, I love greats, and well done's, I love silent agreement, and "Zitates" But what I love most, is to change people's awareness, and to do that, I need discussion and arguments. That's why I'm here. So thanks Master Nisargadatta and to all of you, for being presence consciousness, and tolerating the noisy teachers of the wrong truth, what is the wrong truth? The wrong truth is that you are everyone. The real truth is that you are no one. Or was it the other way around?? "How can I respect those who disrespect each other? Is showing them respect, showing disrespect and rudeness"? bob wrote: hehehe sky wrote: hahaha dennis wrote: great, tom wrote: well done, Thank you guys, but you don't get it, I'm seeking the truth, I'm seeking myself. And someone told me, that I find it in here, and someone in here told me, that the others are myself. So I'm seeking myself in you, bob, sky, dennis and tom and everyone else here on bord. I was reading your messages, but I'm sorry, I can't seem to find myself in you, as hard as I try. I find you promote the wrong truth. so please, teach me the wrong truth, I want to understand it. lola Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles.Visit the Auto Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 You may not find Yourself in me, But believe me, I sure find myself In you! Nisargadatta , Black Eyes <loggin.again wrote: > > .... the ultimate truth, the final truth, the contageous truth, the addictive truth, the viral truth, the brutal truth, the honest truth, the evil truth, the most accurate truth, the truth which includes all other truths, the isolated lonely truth, the never possible truth, the always the same truth, the always changing truth .... > > > Cycling on saturday? I don't think so. > > > > How can I respect those who disrespect each other? > Is showing them respect, > showing disrespect and rudeness? > > > I find it great that there is so much going on here on Nisargadatta's. > The classroom is full of chaos, the teachers sit quite and silent in the back, and no one even notices their presence. > At least I don't. > > Most of them don't even realize that the class has already started. > > In other rooms, there is silence, pure silence, this one somewhat attracts my attention, because the sign on the door says, come and seek truth. > So I enter the door, to find pure chaos. > Is this the chaos teaching class, I ask the teacher? > All the students shout, there is no teacher! > > No teacher? > Right, that's what I came here to learn, the no teaching. > No, you're in the wrong room, shouts the class. > > What wrong room? Is this the wrong class? > > You're in the wrong class. Shouts the wrong class. > > I'm in the wrong class? > Oh, that's right, I was taking no lessons, and now I learn the wrong truth. > Can you show me the wrong door to the wrong room? > > The students show me the door but it is a mirror. > Is it true? > Is what you say, the truth? > Am I all there is in that mirror? > > The students seem disrespectful and rude, > but maybe the students are my teachers. > Teachers of the wrong truth. > Right, this is where I belong, in the wrong class, in the wrong room, teaching the wrong truth. And the wrong truth is what I want to learn. > > What is the wrong truth? > The teachers teach me disrespect. > Fine, so I respect their rudeness, I respect their disrespect. > Must I now teach disrespect also? > Is showing them respect, > showing disrespect and rudeness? > So I respectfully disrespect them. > But I don't understand their teaching! > What is their message, > what is their TRUTH? > The No truth? > The wrong truth? > What is the wrong truth? > And how come they teach it in the wrong class? > Ah the wrong truth! > You mean the wrong truth! > That's right, I was coming to learn the wrong truth. > I hear someone teaching, > but what do they teach? And whom? > I don't understand the meaning of their words. > I don't understand the meaning of their truth. > > But there must be meaning, > there is meaning everywhere. > > I know, but where there is meaning in everything, there is silence, > and silence is not what I want, I want chaos and noise. > I want messages to be read and answered. > I want discussions, even if they are disrespectful. > Maybe not, I just want presence, the presence of attention, the presence of gods people, I want to know, that my thoughts are being noticed, I want feedback and answers so that I can grow and refine my knowledge. > > I love hehehe's and hahaha's, > I love greats, and well done's, > I love silent agreement, and " Zitates " > But what I love most, is to change people's awareness, > and to do that, I need discussion and arguments. > That's why I'm here. > So thanks Master Nisargadatta and to all of you, > for being presence consciousness, > and tolerating the noisy teachers of the wrong truth, > what is the wrong truth? > > The wrong truth is that you are everyone. > The real truth is that you are no one. > > Or was it the other way around?? > > > " How can I respect those who disrespect each other? > Is showing them respect, > showing disrespect and rudeness " ? > > > bob wrote: > hehehe > > sky wrote: > hahaha > > > dennis wrote: > great, > > tom wrote: > well done, > > > Thank you guys, > > but you don't get it, > I'm seeking the truth, > I'm seeking myself. > And someone told me, > that I find it in here, > and someone in here told me, > that the others are myself. > > So I'm seeking myself in you, > bob, sky, dennis and tom > and everyone else here on bord. > > I was reading your messages, > but I'm sorry, > I can't seem to find myself in you, > as hard as I try. > > I find you promote the wrong truth. > so please, teach me the wrong truth, I want to understand it. > > lola > > > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. > Visit the Auto Green Center. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Nisargadatta , Black Eyes <loggin.again wrote: > > .... the ultimate truth, the final truth, the contageous truth, the addictive truth, the viral truth, the brutal truth, the honest truth, the evil truth, the most accurate truth, the truth which includes all other truths, the isolated lonely truth, the never possible truth, the always the same truth, the always changing truth .... > > > Cycling on saturday? I don't think so. > > > > How can I respect those who disrespect each other? > Is showing them respect, > showing disrespect and rudeness? > > > I find it great that there is so much going on here on Nisargadatta's. > The classroom is full of chaos, the teachers sit quite and silent in the back, and no one even notices their presence. > At least I don't. > > Most of them don't even realize that the class has already started. > > In other rooms, there is silence, pure silence, this one somewhat attracts my attention, because the sign on the door says, come and seek truth. > So I enter the door, to find pure chaos. > Is this the chaos teaching class, I ask the teacher? > All the students shout, there is no teacher! > > No teacher? > Right, that's what I came here to learn, the no teaching. > No, you're in the wrong room, shouts the class. > > What wrong room? Is this the wrong class? > > You're in the wrong class. Shouts the wrong class. > > I'm in the wrong class? > Oh, that's right, I was taking no lessons, and now I learn the wrong truth. > Can you show me the wrong door to the wrong room? > > The students show me the door but it is a mirror. > Is it true? > Is what you say, the truth? > Am I all there is in that mirror? > > The students seem disrespectful and rude, > but maybe the students are my teachers. > Teachers of the wrong truth. > Right, this is where I belong, in the wrong class, in the wrong room, teaching the wrong truth. And the wrong truth is what I want to learn. > > What is the wrong truth? > The teachers teach me disrespect. > Fine, so I respect their rudeness, I respect their disrespect. > Must I now teach disrespect also? > Is showing them respect, > showing disrespect and rudeness? > So I respectfully disrespect them. > But I don't understand their teaching! > What is their message, > what is their TRUTH? > The No truth? > The wrong truth? > What is the wrong truth? > And how come they teach it in the wrong class? > Ah the wrong truth! > You mean the wrong truth! > That's right, I was coming to learn the wrong truth. > I hear someone teaching, > but what do they teach? And whom? > I don't understand the meaning of their words. > I don't understand the meaning of their truth. > > But there must be meaning, > there is meaning everywhere. > > I know, but where there is meaning in everything, there is silence, > and silence is not what I want, I want chaos and noise. > I want messages to be read and answered. > I want discussions, even if they are disrespectful. > Maybe not, I just want presence, the presence of attention, the presence of gods people, I want to know, that my thoughts are being noticed, I want feedback and answers so that I can grow and refine my knowledge. > > I love hehehe's and hahaha's, > I love greats, and well done's, > I love silent agreement, and " Zitates " > But what I love most, is to change people's awareness, > and to do that, I need discussion and arguments. > That's why I'm here. > So thanks Master Nisargadatta and to all of you, > for being presence consciousness, > and tolerating the noisy teachers of the wrong truth, > what is the wrong truth? > > The wrong truth is that you are everyone. > The real truth is that you are no one. > > Or was it the other way around?? > > > " How can I respect those who disrespect each other? > Is showing them respect, > showing disrespect and rudeness " ? > > > bob wrote: > hehehe > > sky wrote: > hahaha > > > dennis wrote: > great, > > tom wrote: > well done, > > > Thank you guys, > > but you don't get it, > I'm seeking the truth, > I'm seeking myself. > And someone told me, > that I find it in here, > and someone in here told me, > that the others are myself. > > So I'm seeking myself in you, > bob, sky, dennis and tom > and everyone else here on bord. > > I was reading your messages, > but I'm sorry, > I can't seem to find myself in you, > as hard as I try. > > I find you promote the wrong truth. > so please, teach me the wrong truth, I want to understand it. > > lola > all that you can understand is the wrong truth... its like a house...all is in there...but not you... you create the house and the many rooms with different things... stop taking yourself for a room-man...thats all ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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