Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Enlightenment is fine In fact it's really great, I guess. if you don't forget that body/mind still has an address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Enlightenment is fine > In fact it's really great, I guess. > if you don't forget that body/mind > still has an address. return to sender, address unknown... no such number... no such zone. cloudhidden...wherabouts unknown. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Enlightenment is fine > > In fact it's really great, I guess. > > if you don't forget that body/mind > > still has an address. > > > return to sender, > > address unknown... > > no such number... > > no such zone. > > cloudhidden...wherabouts unknown. > > .b b.b. > 10 million people cross borders in one of history's largest mass migrations my husband and I did go visit in May and I can say for a fact with land, air and sea forces enabling a rapid US advance across large areas of land, nervousness, for to some extent you become very attached to these children the word of Him, the eternal, the truth effulgent, the limitless great pot " bellies may be a big indicator of future heart disease. Mother of all yaaawwns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > Enlightenment is fine. > > > In fact it's really great, I guess. > > > if you don't forget that body/mind > > > still has an address. > > > > > > return to sender, > > > > address unknown... > > > > no such number... > > > > no such zone. > > > > cloudhidden...wherabouts unknown. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > 10 million people cross borders in one of history's largest mass > migrations > my husband and I did go visit in May and I can say for a fact > with land, air and sea forces enabling a rapid US advance across > large areas of land, > nervousness, for to some extent you become very attached to these > children > the word of Him, the eternal, the truth effulgent, the limitless great > pot " bellies may be a big indicator of future heart disease. > > Mother of all yaaawwns. > >mommamstrdmmlbrnskyzie ROFLMAO! well then you two queers should go back you motha. flabby tits and all. what's your husband's name roberta? is it gustaf or karl? and what are you filthy animals doing visiting human beings? that's disgusting! LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 .. > > > return to sender, > > address unknown... > > no such number... > > no such zone. > > cloudhidden...wherabouts unknown. > > .b b.b. > Oh? What do you do when you stub your toe hard? Sing hallelujah? What do you feel when somebody calls your wife a dirty name to her face? Infinite compassion? Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > . > > > > > > return to sender, > > > > address unknown... > > > > no such number... > > > > no such zone. > > > > cloudhidden...wherabouts unknown. > > > > .b b.b. > > > Oh? What do you do when you stub your toe hard? Sing hallelujah? What > do you feel when somebody calls your wife a dirty name to her face? > Infinite compassion? Z i don't know what i do.... whether a toe is stubbed or if i am snubbed. frankly i don't give a damn. and i don't make 'plans' about any circumstances. it's all too funny to get riled over. fuck compassion. it's highly overrated. fuck infinity.. it's a silly concept. my wife no face. halleluja halleluja.. are you still concerned about losing face? one that you never had? you're being a funny monkey. there are no 'someones' 'you' worry too much. especially since there is no 'you' to worry. no one can do anything to 'me' except 'me'.. and sport there is no 'me'. get a grip on that which is.... not the self you ain't. art thou this lost? you will grow beyond these concerns over 'me' and 'yourself'. you have no choice nor 'say' in the matter. that's just the way THAT IS. truly it pisses some phantoms off. but THIS is beyond all domains and dominions. and 'IT' doesn't give a shit if this is understood or not. only THIS IS and it's laughable to hear your queries re insults. who the fuck insults and who the fuck are they insulting. only that imaginary 'self' would be concerned with such. relax and enjoy and don't take the Great Joke seriously. you could develop illlusionary ulcers over that shit. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 > > i don't know what i do.... > > whether a toe is stubbed or if i am snubbed. > > frankly i don't give a damn. > > and i don't make 'plans' about any circumstances. > > it's all too funny to get riled over. > > fuck compassion. > > it's highly overrated. > > fuck infinity.. > > it's a silly concept. > > my wife no face. > > halleluja halleluja.. > > are you still concerned about losing face? > > one that you never had? > > you're being a funny monkey. > > there are no 'someones' > > 'you' worry too much. > > especially since there is no 'you' to worry. > > no one can do anything to 'me' except 'me'.. > > and sport there is no 'me'. > > get a grip on that which is.... not the self you ain't. > > art thou this lost? > > you will grow beyond these concerns over 'me' and 'yourself'. > > you have no choice nor 'say' in the matter. > > that's just the way THAT IS. > > truly it pisses some phantoms off. > > but THIS is beyond all domains and dominions. > > and 'IT' doesn't give a shit if this is understood or not. > > only THIS IS and it's laughable to hear your queries re insults. > > who the fuck insults and who the fuck are they insulting. > > only that imaginary 'self' would be concerned with such. > > relax and enjoy and don't take the Great Joke seriously. > > you could develop illlusionary ulcers over that shit. > > .b b.b. > Yes, all the " yous " are imaginary. There are very few, however, among those who have clearly seen this, or apprehended it--or been apprehended by it--who don't lose it from time to time.That is when the stubbed toe hurts. Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > > > > i don't know what i do.... > > > > whether a toe is stubbed or if i am snubbed. > > > > frankly i don't give a damn. > > > > and i don't make 'plans' about any circumstances. > > > > it's all too funny to get riled over. > > > > fuck compassion. > > > > it's highly overrated. > > > > fuck infinity.. > > > > it's a silly concept. > > > > my wife no face. > > > > halleluja halleluja.. > > > > are you still concerned about losing face? > > > > one that you never had? > > > > you're being a funny monkey. > > > > there are no 'someones' > > > > 'you' worry too much. > > > > especially since there is no 'you' to worry. > > > > no one can do anything to 'me' except 'me'.. > > > > and sport there is no 'me'. > > > > get a grip on that which is.... not the self you ain't. > > > > art thou this lost? > > > > you will grow beyond these concerns over 'me' and 'yourself'. > > > > you have no choice nor 'say' in the matter. > > > > that's just the way THAT IS. > > > > truly it pisses some phantoms off. > > > > but THIS is beyond all domains and dominions. > > > > and 'IT' doesn't give a shit if this is understood or not. > > > > only THIS IS and it's laughable to hear your queries re insults. > > > > who the fuck insults and who the fuck are they insulting. > > > > only that imaginary 'self' would be concerned with such. > > > > relax and enjoy and don't take the Great Joke seriously. > > > > you could develop illlusionary ulcers over that shit. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Yes, all the " yous " are imaginary. There are very few, however, > among those who have clearly seen this, or apprehended it--or been > apprehended by it--who don't lose it from time to time.That is when > the stubbed toe hurts. Z :-) sure enough. with but one caveat. the 'feeler' IS the hurting. ouch!.. " i " just became a throbbing stubbed toe! 'me', 'toe', 'hurt'.. same same same. but you're right..it sometimes 'feels' as if.. they are all separate events and sensations. i guess if that never obtained...neither would 'we' ..b bobji baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <> > sure enough. > > with but one caveat. > > the 'feeler' > > IS the hurting. > > ouch!.. " i " just became a throbbing stubbed toe! > > 'me', 'toe', 'hurt'.. > > same same same. > > but you're right..it sometimes 'feels' as if.. > > they are all separate events and sensations. > > i guess if that never obtained...neither would 'we' > > .b bobji baba > I recall reading JK who said: The thnker is the thought, the observer is the observed. These ideas are clear enough to me. You say the feeler is the felt--this sounds right but I am trying to get it clear.When there is the stubbed-toe pain that is all there is.Then " I " sticks its' nose in and says, " I hurt. " This process is very quick and repeated many thousands of times--the vibe of pain, the ego, the vibe, the ego, etc.But ego is a dead thing that feels nothing.So the vibe has no feeler.But still it is felt.What feels it? Consciousness?Nothing enters consciousness but more consciousness. So the vibe is its' own feeler. Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <> > > sure enough. > > > > with but one caveat. > > > > the 'feeler' > > > > IS the hurting. > > > > ouch!.. " i " just became a throbbing stubbed toe! > > > > 'me', 'toe', 'hurt'.. > > > > same same same. > > > > but you're right..it sometimes 'feels' as if.. > > > > they are all separate events and sensations. > > > > i guess if that never obtained...neither would 'we' > > > > .b bobji baba > > > > > I recall reading JK who said: The thnker is the thought, the > observer is the observed. These ideas are clear enough to me. You > say the feeler is the felt--this sounds right but I am trying to get > it clear.When there is the stubbed-toe pain that is all there > is.Then " I " sticks its' nose in and says, " I hurt. " This process is > very quick and repeated many thousands of times--the vibe of pain, > the ego, the vibe, the ego, etc.But ego is a dead thing that feels > nothing.So the vibe has no feeler.But still it is felt.What feels it? > Consciousness?Nothing enters consciousness but more consciousness. > So the vibe is its' own feeler. Z > yes. only Consciousness IS. the contents of Consciousness attempt explanation of THAT which contains 'itself' as the contained.... by utelizing additional contents of Consciousness. contents are everchanging and thereby without REAL identity. and all content identifies with itself as 'me'. it never lives nor dies. it fears it's nonexistence because it believes itself to be the fundemental 'unit' because of 'experience' of not only 'itself' but also 'it's' 'experienced' 'world'. 'it' cannot conceive of 'it's' nonexistence as this would also mean that the 'experienced' 'world' was in turn nonexistent'. THIS IS THE CASE. THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE UNIVERSAL ORDINARY IDENTITY. it's more a " 'a ha!'...'ha ha haaaaaaaaa haha!...OF COURSE! " .... rather than anything worshipful or awesome. it's kicking oneself in the ass and understanding thar niether kicker nor ass being kicked are 'Real'. it's drinking a cup of joe and posting as a 'me' to 'you'. it's the Holiest of Holy and it doesn't mean anything at all. it's a tempest in a teapot until the plug is pulled. it's no big deal.. but none of the 'somebodies' in the mist believe what's before their eyes or created by their ears or nonunderstood by their fears. and it doesn't matter anyway because it's not really happening. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 > > yes. > > only Consciousness IS. > > the contents of Consciousness attempt explanation of THAT which > contains 'itself' as the contained.... by utelizing additional > contents of Consciousness. > > contents are everchanging and thereby without REAL identity. > > and all content identifies with itself as 'me'. > > it never lives nor dies. > > it fears it's nonexistence because it believes itself to be the > fundemental 'unit' because of 'experience' of not only 'itself' but > also 'it's' 'experienced' 'world'. > > 'it' cannot conceive of 'it's' nonexistence as this would also mean > that the 'experienced' 'world' was in turn nonexistent'. > > THIS IS THE CASE. > > THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE UNIVERSAL ORDINARY IDENTITY. > > it's more a " 'a ha!'...'ha ha haaaaaaaaa haha!...OF COURSE! " .... > > rather than anything worshipful or awesome. > > it's kicking oneself in the ass and understanding thar niether kicker > nor ass being kicked are 'Real'. > > it's drinking a cup of joe and posting as a 'me' to 'you'. > > it's the Holiest of Holy and it doesn't mean anything at all. > > it's a tempest in a teapot until the plug is pulled. > > it's no big deal.. > > but none of the 'somebodies' in the mist believe what's before their > eyes or created by their ears or nonunderstood by their fears. > > and it doesn't matter anyway because it's not really happening. > > .b b.b. > So we can say that anything that appears in consciousness is its'own experiencer-by dint of the fact that it is not only in consciousness but also IS consciousness. What I am saying is that there is no such thing as an outside observer. Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > > > > yes. > > > > only Consciousness IS. > > > > the contents of Consciousness attempt explanation of THAT which > > contains 'itself' as the contained.... by utelizing additional > > contents of Consciousness. > > > > contents are everchanging and thereby without REAL identity. > > > > and all content identifies with itself as 'me'. > > > > it never lives nor dies. > > > > it fears it's nonexistence because it believes itself to be the > > fundemental 'unit' because of 'experience' of not only 'itself' but > > also 'it's' 'experienced' 'world'. > > > > 'it' cannot conceive of 'it's' nonexistence as this would also mean > > that the 'experienced' 'world' was in turn nonexistent'. > > > > THIS IS THE CASE. > > > > THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE UNIVERSAL ORDINARY IDENTITY. > > > > it's more a " 'a ha!'...'ha ha haaaaaaaaa haha!...OF COURSE! " .... > > > > rather than anything worshipful or awesome. > > > > it's kicking oneself in the ass and understanding thar niether > kicker > > nor ass being kicked are 'Real'. > > > > it's drinking a cup of joe and posting as a 'me' to 'you'. > > > > it's the Holiest of Holy and it doesn't mean anything at all. > > > > it's a tempest in a teapot until the plug is pulled. > > > > it's no big deal.. > > > > but none of the 'somebodies' in the mist believe what's before > their > > eyes or created by their ears or nonunderstood by their fears. > > > > and it doesn't matter anyway because it's not really happening. > > > > .b b.b. > > > So we can say that anything that appears in consciousness is its'own > experiencer-by dint of the fact that it is not only in consciousness > but also IS consciousness. What I am saying is that there is no such > thing as an outside observer. Z there is nothing to observe. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <> > > there is nothing to observe. > > .b b.b. > Sure there is! A death in the family. " You " win the lotto. A tire blows out.Or let's bring it down to the level of sensation--colors, smells, touch pressures, noise. Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <> > > > > there is nothing to observe. > > > > .b b.b. > > > Sure there is! A death in the family. " You " win the lotto. A tire > blows out.Or let's bring it down to the level of sensation--colors, > smells, touch pressures, noise. Z nope. there is no one to observe.. there is nothing to be observed. you speak of interpretation...judgement...false distinction. there are no levels.. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 > > nope. > > there is no one to observe.. > > there is nothing to be observed. > > you speak of interpretation...judgement...false distinction. > > there are no levels.. > > .b b.b. > OK--there is a toothache so bad the ears ring and the sight dims.In this case what do you mean by nothing to observe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > > > > nope. > > > > there is no one to observe.. > > > > there is nothing to be observed. > > > > you speak of interpretation...judgement...false distinction. > > > > there are no levels.. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > OK--there is a toothache so bad the ears ring and the sight dims.In > this case what do you mean by nothing to observe? there IS the aching... there are ringing and darkening... THAT's what IS THATS what's happening... " It' does not belong to anyone. No One is there to observe sepearate and apart from events. neither marketplace nor void... and i don't 'mean' anything regarding this Absence. in 'It's Presence and Power... 'i' am absolutely without 'meaning'. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > OK. Yes, that makes sense. Tehre is an ache and no obsever. the observer comes later.When the ache is there it is its' own knower.The observer is a hoax.A mouse in a mastodon suit. Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > OK. Yes, that makes sense. Tehre is an ache and no obsever. the > observer comes later.When the ache is there it is its' own knower.The > observer is a hoax.A mouse in a mastodon suit. Z :-) yes.. the Impsossible King. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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