Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 What does Nisar mean by: " Hold onto the I " . What does it imply, what is this action's modus-operandi or nature in actuality (for you)? Can anyone, point clearly, to what it is and/or what it is not? Thanks. j.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789 wrote: > > What does Nisar mean by: > " Hold onto the I " . > > What does it imply, > what is this action's > modus-operandi or nature > in actuality (for you)? > > Can anyone, point clearly, > to what it is > and/or > what it is not? > > Thanks. > j.- > First you would probably have to have some sense of what the " I " is.You might do well to read more of Nis and find out how he defines the " I " .You sure can't hold to something if you don't know what it is. Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789 wrote: > > What does Nisar mean by: > " Hold onto the I " . > > What does it imply, > what is this action's > modus-operandi or nature > in actuality (for you)? > > Can anyone, point clearly, > to what it is > and/or > what it is not? > > Thanks. > j.- you bet! there is nothing that it is not. it is nothing that IS... that is IT. nothing more...nothing less. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789 wrote: > > What does Nisar mean by: > " Hold onto the I " . > > What does it imply, > what is this action's > modus-operandi or nature > in actuality (for you)? > > Can anyone, point clearly, > to what it is > and/or > what it is not? > > Thanks. > j.- > J: Someone wrote to me not to ask for explanation, but just to go the purity beyond. Below my reply: I see your point. And so, aswers are useless too. All: " names " . AND, so is " pureness beyond everything " . ESPECIALLY 'pureness BEYoND everything', because at least words about the an actuial experience of what Nisar pointed to, one can relate to... while the 'beyond' is just a pretty negation phraze, in advaita style... impressive, mind boggling, but noncomunicative and meaningless. That's where I find Krishnamurti quite sane. He points to where you are, and at what you can see... instead of 'oh forget it mate, it's all illusion'-condescending-mantra. I did not ask for 'explanation'. I asked a fellow traveller for his perception/seeing of what N. is pointing to. -j. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789@> wrote: > > > > What does Nisar mean by: > > " Hold onto the I " . > > > > What does it imply, > > what is this action's > > modus-operandi or nature > > in actuality (for you)? > > > > Can anyone, point clearly, > > to what it is > > and/or > > what it is not? > > > > Thanks. > > j.- > > > > you bet! > > there is nothing that it is not. > > it is nothing that IS... > > that is IT. > > nothing more...nothing less. > > .b b.b. > bbb, with all respect, your reply is a lot of conceptually sentimental and mind-gaming bul.bafls.brains noise. I want to speak to a sane one here, not a conceptual advaita all-illusion damaged addict. Good luck to you and may sobriety descend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789 wrote: > > What does Nisar mean by: > " Hold onto the I " . > > What does it imply, > what is this action's > modus-operandi or nature > in actuality (for you)? > > Can anyone, point clearly, > to what it is > and/or > what it is not? > > Thanks. > j.- > J. This may be a starting point. Stephen Wolinsky wrote: SUMMARY OF NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ 1. There is only THAT ONE SUBSTANCE 2. What you know about yourself came from outside of you, therefore discard it. 3. Question everything, do not believe anything. 4. In order to find out who you are, you must first find out who you are not. 5. In order to let go of something, you must first know what it is. 6. The experienc er is contained within the experience itself. 7. Anything you think you are - you are not. 8. Hold onto the I AM, let go of everything else. 9. Anything you know about you cannot be. What it means for me? Silence... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789 wrote: > > What does Nisar mean by: > " Hold onto the I " . > > What does it imply, > what is this action's > modus-operandi or nature > in actuality (for you)? > > Can anyone, point clearly, > to what it is > and/or > what it is not? > > Thanks. > j.- > JB, To clarify, Niz said " Hold on to the I-am " . And the I-am is just another expression for consciousness or being. I-am, consciousness and being are synonimous. Similar was K's expression that there is only what is and not what should be. K as well as Niz stated that one has to go beyond consciousness, beyond the known. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 > > > > What does Nisar mean by: > > " Hold onto the I " . > > > > What does it imply, > > what is this action's > > modus-operandi or nature > > in actuality (for you)? > > > > Can anyone, point clearly, > > to what it is > > and/or > > what it is not? > > > > Thanks. > > j.- > > > > > JB, > > To clarify, Niz said " Hold on to the I-am " . And the I-am is just > another expression for consciousness or being. > > I-am, consciousness and being are synonimous. > > Similar was K's expression that there is only what is and not what > should be. K as well as Niz stated that one has to go beyond > consciousness, beyond the known. > > Werner > who is K ? Krisnamurti, Christ, or Jean Klein.. wondering Era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789@> wrote: > > > > > > What does Nisar mean by: > > > " Hold onto the I " . > > > > > > What does it imply, > > > what is this action's > > > modus-operandi or nature > > > in actuality (for you)? > > > > > > Can anyone, point clearly, > > > to what it is > > > and/or > > > what it is not? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > j.- > > > > > > > > you bet! > > > > there is nothing that it is not. > > > > it is nothing that IS... > > > > that is IT. > > > > nothing more...nothing less. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > bbb, with all respect, your reply is a lot of > conceptually sentimental and mind-gaming bul.bafls.brains noise. > I want to speak to a sane one here, not a > conceptual advaita all-illusion damaged addict. > Good luck to you and may sobriety descend. :-) gee that's nice to know. i frankly don't give a shit what you do or do not respect. ditto regards what you 'want' regards a repsonder to what you post. it doesn't work that way. this will become evident as you grow into adolescence and beyond. you still believe in 'luck'. strange little monkey. you seem hung up on sobriety... this has been an 'issue' for you then? well to each that is not....there own is not..... isn't it? That's it.it is. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Era " <mi_nok wrote: > > > > > > > What does Nisar mean by: > > > " Hold onto the I " . > > > > > > What does it imply, > > > what is this action's > > > modus-operandi or nature > > > in actuality (for you)? > > > > > > Can anyone, point clearly, > > > to what it is > > > and/or > > > what it is not? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > j.- > > > > > > > > > JB, > > > > To clarify, Niz said " Hold on to the I-am " . And the I-am is just > > another expression for consciousness or being. > > > > I-am, consciousness and being are synonimous. > > > > Similar was K's expression that there is only what is and not what > > should be. K as well as Niz stated that one has to go beyond > > consciousness, beyond the known. > > > > Werner > > > > who is K ? Krisnamurti, Christ, or Jean Klein.. wondering > > Era > it is J. Krishnamurti jb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789@> wrote: > > > > > > > > What does Nisar mean by: > > > > " Hold onto the I " . > > > > > > > > What does it imply, > > > > what is this action's > > > > modus-operandi or nature > > > > in actuality (for you)? > > > > > > > > Can anyone, point clearly, > > > > to what it is > > > > and/or > > > > what it is not? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > j.- > > > > > > > > > > > > you bet! > > > > > > there is nothing that it is not. > > > > > > it is nothing that IS... > > > > > > that is IT. > > > > > > nothing more...nothing less. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > bbb, with all respect, your reply is a lot of > > conceptually sentimental and mind-gaming bul.bafls.brains noise. > > I want to speak to a sane one here, not a > > conceptual advaita all-illusion damaged addict. > > Good luck to you and may sobriety descend. > > > > :-) > > gee that's nice to know. > > i frankly don't give a shit what you do or do not respect. > > ditto regards what you 'want' regards a repsonder to what you post. > > it doesn't work that way. > > this will become evident as you grow into adolescence and beyond. > > you still believe in 'luck'. > > strange little monkey. > > you seem hung up on sobriety... > > this has been an 'issue' for you then? > > well to each that is not....there own is not..... isn't it? > > That's it.it is. > > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > bbb your condescending arrogance reveals your 'LOL' to be on you. with all respect, i would suggest you consult a shrink and take some tranqulizers to minimize your megalomaniacal indulgences. That' it it is as it is isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789@> wrote: > > > > What does Nisar mean by: > > " Hold onto the I " . > > > > What does it imply, > > what is this action's > > modus-operandi or nature > > in actuality (for you)? > > > > Can anyone, point clearly, > > to what it is > > and/or > > what it is not? > > > > Thanks. > > j.- > > > > J. This may be a starting point. > > Stephen Wolinsky wrote: > > SUMMARY OF NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ > > 1. There is only THAT ONE SUBSTANCE > 2. What you know about yourself came from outside of you, therefore > discard it. > 3. Question everything, do not believe anything. > 4. In order to find out who you are, you must first find out who you are not. > 5. In order to let go of something, you must first know what it is. > 6. The experienc er is contained within the experience itself. > 7. Anything you think you are - you are not. > 8. Hold onto the I AM, let go of everything else. > 9. Anything you know about you cannot be. > > What it means for me? Silence... > Thanks for your summary. I asked about nr. 8. I did not get a sharing yet, as to its actuality. How do you do, Nis's 'Hold onto the I AM' ? Do you, for example, repeat i-i-i and clench your teeth, or... what else? Regards, j. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What does Nisar mean by: > > > > > " Hold onto the I " . > > > > > > > > > > What does it imply, > > > > > what is this action's > > > > > modus-operandi or nature > > > > > in actuality (for you)? > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone, point clearly, > > > > > to what it is > > > > > and/or > > > > > what it is not? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > j.- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you bet! > > > > > > > > there is nothing that it is not. > > > > > > > > it is nothing that IS... > > > > > > > > that is IT. > > > > > > > > nothing more...nothing less. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > bbb, with all respect, your reply is a lot of > > > conceptually sentimental and mind-gaming bul.bafls.brains noise. > > > I want to speak to a sane one here, not a > > > conceptual advaita all-illusion damaged addict. > > > Good luck to you and may sobriety descend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > gee that's nice to know. > > > > i frankly don't give a shit what you do or do not respect. > > > > ditto regards what you 'want' regards a repsonder to what you post. > > > > it doesn't work that way. > > > > this will become evident as you grow into adolescence and beyond. > > > > you still believe in 'luck'. > > > > strange little monkey. > > > > you seem hung up on sobriety... > > > > this has been an 'issue' for you then? > > > > well to each that is not....there own is not..... isn't it? > > > > That's it.it is. > > > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > bbb your condescending arrogance reveals your 'LOL' to be on you. > with all respect, i would suggest you consult a shrink and take some > tranqulizers to minimize your megalomaniacal indulgences. That' it > it is as it is isn't it. well i guess pills and such are your solutions to perceived probs. are you addicted? is your dependence related to the pharms or the psychotherapist? you sound as though it's pills that are speaking through you. let me suggest that you stick solely to the doc... was that 'revealing' about baba's LOL an hallucination? do you really enjoy those delusions? listen j b... baba's here for help too. and baba gifts his help. this will save you or your HMO lot's and lot's. and after you are healed... ..b bobji will gladly accept whatever little gift you care to reciprocate with.... just don't offer more of your dumb illusions.. baba has to deal with those from one of those here already. well..after the healing then..maybe we can start work on those too. i just know, without condescension, that you'd enjoy this. help is here when you bottom out and ask for it. LOL! your humble and non arrogant... non haughty baba, ..b bobji baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Nisargadatta , " new7892001 " <JB789 wrote: > Thanks for your summary. > I asked about nr. 8. > I did not get a sharing yet, as to its actuality. > How do you do, Nis's 'Hold onto the I AM' ? > Do you, for example, repeat i-i-i and clench your teeth, or... what > else? > Regards, j. Hi, I would like to recommend a web-site which is maybe answering your question: http://tinyurl.com/2qu8zq All the best :-) Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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