pitty and attention for some lonely ego-Freaks....:)

[Guest guest]

whoever presume that one should be happy...

to have an ego mind...

and the necessity to have a (great) ego...

and so on

 

......

 

will, indeed, never have the chance to meet for real, with a real Guru

because such person isn't able to " see " the Self, means any Guru

 

....

 

such person know very well about Love...

like everybody do...

but the Love they are talking about...

is reduced to the Love to & from their little thinking ego mind

 

....

 

let's pray for such poor and lonely souls...

 

....

 

or just let them do their ridiculues fights...

against themSelf....

means against All they are....

for real

 

 

Marc

[Guest guest]

Well, this does not sound very peaceful, Marc!

It sounds like the preachings of a fanatic catholic inquisitor.

 

But now, my friend, listen to my preaching:

To fight the ego is to fight life.

When you fight it it becomes only stronger.

 

If you want to be detached from the ego

You have to understand it first.

And to understand it

You have to accept it first.

 

Marc would not be here

Without an ego.

 

Stefan

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

>

> whoever presume that one should be happy...

> to have an ego mind...

> and the necessity to have a (great) ego...

> and so on

>

> .....

>

> will, indeed, never have the chance to meet for real, with a real Guru

> because such person isn't able to " see " the Self, means any Guru

>

> ...

>

> such person know very well about Love...

> like everybody do...

> but the Love they are talking about...

> is reduced to the Love to & from their little thinking ego mind

>

> ...

>

> let's pray for such poor and lonely souls...

>

> ...

>

> or just let them do their ridiculues fights...

> against themSelf....

> means against All they are....

> for real

>

>

> Marc

>

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

 

Good Morning Stefan,

 

 

it maybe doesn't sound " peaceful " ....for you, Stefan, indeed...

i'm aware of that...

 

for me, personnaly....whatever is in relation with truth...

means with real Self...

is peaceful...

however the sound and the manner of the written words...

 

you talk to me.....

maybe like to talk to others too...

in a way....that you have this your already mentionned attitude...

to " direct " others...to tell & show them....about " your " truth....

 

maybe this is interesting for some people....

 

but, your words...for me....are of No meaning...

means, they reflect this your lonely ego-minded attitude...

which can't be controlled.....seem so....for some reason...

 

if you read my messages....

most of them aren't direct answers to messages....

i write just few words about some intiutions and inspirations...

Not directly related to a certain person...

 

thats indeed another attitude....like yours...

you enter in here....

anserwering to posts...making some direct critics to an appearing

other....and so searching for some " exchange " ....for whatever

reason.....

 

you see.....there are different attitudes here ....

 

i only ask you....to respect other attitudes then yours too....

 

there are some people in here....whos posts, i even no more read...

because their views and perceptions are too far from mine....

no connection and relation....

 

so it's no problem....i just have no contact with them....

and have No idea about what they are writing about...

because i don't read their posts....

 

very simple...

 

no?

 

 

i see that our recent exchange about..... " one isn't this body, mind

and intellect....for real " ...

 

didn't get to any other result....than to ego-minded defense talk

etc....

 

and please, know...that i don't " fight " ego-minds....

it's sometimes a pleasure and of great fun....to be in contact with

such kind of beings

 

 

Marc

 

 

 

> Well, this does not sound very peaceful, Marc!

> It sounds like the preachings of a fanatic catholic inquisitor.

>

> But now, my friend, listen to my preaching:

> To fight the ego is to fight life.

> When you fight it it becomes only stronger.

>

> If you want to be detached from the ego

> You have to understand it first.

> And to understand it

> You have to accept it first.

>

> Marc would not be here

> Without an ego.

>

> Stefan

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > whoever presume that one should be happy...

> > to have an ego mind...

> > and the necessity to have a (great) ego...

> > and so on

> >

> > .....

> >

> > will, indeed, never have the chance to meet for real, with a real

Guru

> > because such person isn't able to " see " the Self, means any Guru

> >

> > ...

> >

> > such person know very well about Love...

> > like everybody do...

> > but the Love they are talking about...

> > is reduced to the Love to & from their little thinking ego mind

> >

> > ...

> >

> > let's pray for such poor and lonely souls...

> >

> > ...

> >

> > or just let them do their ridiculues fights...

> > against themSelf....

> > means against All they are....

> > for real

> >

> >

> > Marc

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

 

>your words...for me....are of No meaning...

>means, they reflect this your lonely ego-minded attitude...

>which can't be controlled.....seem so....for some reason...

 

No Marc, when you read my words, the only thing that they can reflect

is the attitude that you are giving them. The same applies vice versa

to your words when I am reading them.

 

When I have exchange I am more interested in those people who seem to

think differently from me, because those conversations may open my

mind up to something new. They are of more value to me, because they

are more challenging to the preoccupied ways of my ego.

 

BTW, am I forcing you somehow to read my postings and to even answer

them? Is this not your choice?

 

Greetings

Stefan

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

>

> >your words...for me....are of No meaning...

> >means, they reflect this your lonely ego-minded attitude...

> >which can't be controlled.....seem so....for some reason...

>

> No Marc, when you read my words, the only thing that they can

reflect

> is the attitude that you are giving them. The same applies vice

versa

> to your words when I am reading them.

 

 

- oh...now come the nice theory of " reflections " and so....

 

you realy mean that there are no personal attitudes

existing....except the ones ... " somebody " has in mind?...etc...

 

....i'm sorry.....can't follow this your concept....

(it even seem to be in deep contrast/conflict to your ego-mind-

concept....which is holding on, a certain personality (and so,

personal attitudes)

 

 

> When I have exchange I am more interested in those people who seem

to

> think differently from me, because those conversations may open my

> mind up to something new. They are of more value to me, because they

> are more challenging to the preoccupied ways of my ego.

 

-exactly, this is what i wanted to express concerning your person,

Stefan....you are searching an exchange kind of....

 

whenever i want to have an interesting " exchange " ...i do some

meditation....kind of deep jump within myself....

and then there are " worlds " of transformations happening...

 

therefore....i don't come in here to " learn " something new....

but to find the right expression in words....what i just experienced

during a deep peace and calmness...meditation....

most of the times....this are in relation to few posts i'm

reading....so often, automatically there is a relation to what is

spoken in here...

but my intention isn't realy to " stress " anybody...to teach or

whatever.....

it's ony about expressions....thats all

 

>

> BTW, am I forcing you somehow to read my postings and to even answer

> them? Is this not your choice?

 

yes....little

it's not realy of my choice...

i see sometimes that you expect an answer...and to continue talking...

so i answer you, in order to stay in contact....as a contact of

friendship....and not as somebody " to fight... " or something...

 

>

> Greetings

> Stefan

>

[Guest guest]

Marc, lets get this straight, once and for all:

 

It is not true that I am forcing you in any way. I have never demanded

and I never even expected an answer. In fact I am surprised that you

go on replying, continuously defending yourself. It seems that you are

unable to let anything stand undisputed which does not match your

personal way of thinking.

 

Stefan

(who is not expecting a reply)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> > >your words...for me....are of No meaning...

> > >means, they reflect this your lonely ego-minded attitude...

> > >which can't be controlled.....seem so....for some reason...

> >

> > No Marc, when you read my words, the only thing that they can

> reflect

> > is the attitude that you are giving them. The same applies vice

> versa

> > to your words when I am reading them.

>

>

> - oh...now come the nice theory of " reflections " and so....

>

> you realy mean that there are no personal attitudes

> existing....except the ones ... " somebody " has in mind?...etc...

>

> ...i'm sorry.....can't follow this your concept....

> (it even seem to be in deep contrast/conflict to your ego-mind-

> concept....which is holding on, a certain personality (and so,

> personal attitudes)

>

>

> > When I have exchange I am more interested in those people who seem

> to

> > think differently from me, because those conversations may open my

> > mind up to something new. They are of more value to me, because they

> > are more challenging to the preoccupied ways of my ego.

>

> -exactly, this is what i wanted to express concerning your person,

> Stefan....you are searching an exchange kind of....

>

> whenever i want to have an interesting " exchange " ...i do some

> meditation....kind of deep jump within myself....

> and then there are " worlds " of transformations happening...

>

> therefore....i don't come in here to " learn " something new....

> but to find the right expression in words....what i just experienced

> during a deep peace and calmness...meditation....

> most of the times....this are in relation to few posts i'm

> reading....so often, automatically there is a relation to what is

> spoken in here...

> but my intention isn't realy to " stress " anybody...to teach or

> whatever.....

> it's ony about expressions....thats all

>

> >

> > BTW, am I forcing you somehow to read my postings and to even answer

> > them? Is this not your choice?

>

> yes....little

> it's not realy of my choice...

> i see sometimes that you expect an answer...and to continue talking...

> so i answer you, in order to stay in contact....as a contact of

> friendship....and not as somebody " to fight... " or something...

>

> >

> > Greetings

> > Stefan

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Marc, lets get this straight, once and for all:

>

> It is not true that I am forcing you in any way. I have never

demanded

> and I never even expected an answer. In fact I am surprised that you

> go on replying, continuously defending yourself. It seems that you

are

> unable to let anything stand undisputed which does not match your

> personal way of thinking.

>

> Stefan

> (who is not expecting a reply)

>

>

.....i think that it's just normal....to reply...

when somebody try hard to express his " different " view....

 

for my case....

please....just forget my views...

thats all

 

you still don't understand my personal attitude.....i tried to

explain in few replies...

i don't try to defend myself....because i don't care about the

personal view of others in here

it's, again, simple....no?

 

Marc

 

(who don't care....if there is a reply....or not)

 

 

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Marc, if you like you can explain your personal attitude one more time.

 

Stefan

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

 

> you still don't understand my personal attitude.....i tried to

> explain in few replies...

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

 

 

Stefan....have a nice walk!

 

 

Marc

 

> Marc, if you like you can explain your personal attitude one more

time.

>

> Stefan

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

>

> > you still don't understand my personal attitude.....i tried to

> > explain in few replies...

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

 

>Stefan....have a nice walk!

 

This is a good idea. I have to wait a little, right now it is too hot

outside. Are you still in your office?

 

Greetings

Stefan

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

>

> >Stefan....have a nice walk!

>

> This is a good idea. I have to wait a little, right now it is too

hot

> outside. Are you still in your office?

 

 

i think that you have absolutly no idea.....where i am....

 

so....no need trying you to explain something....you will not

understand....

 

 

Marc

>

 

 

> Greetings

> Stefan

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

 

>i think that you have absolutly no idea.....where i am....

 

Yes, thats why I was asking.

....

 

Stefan

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

>

> >i think that you have absolutly no idea.....where i am....

>

> Yes, thats why I was asking.

> ...

>

> Stefan

 

 

Stefan..... " you " ....as being already one of the best jokes in here

this days......will surely enjoy one of the best " walks " you ever

had....

 

LOL

 

Marc

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Stefan..... " you " ....as being already one of the best jokes in here

> this days......will surely enjoy one of the best " walks " you ever

> had....

 

Yes, I also think so. You will also surely enjoy your evening.

 

Stefan

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> > Stefan..... " you " ....as being already one of the best jokes in here

> > this days......will surely enjoy one of the best " walks " you ever

> > had....

>

> Yes, I also think so. You will also surely enjoy your evening.

>

> Stefan

 

 

yes, thanks

 

Marc

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, thank you too

Stefan

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

 

yes, thanks

 

>Marc