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Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

 

>but poor little stefan's illusions and delusions bar the Realization.

>this too shall pass my son....

 

Ahhh, see how this " grown up " thing has hit you?

Now you want me to be poor little stefan

And moreover you even call me your son

Only to show how grown up you are!

And all this because I have written:

" where are the grown ups? "

 

Why did you not simply say: " Here! "

 

Are you only able to feel like a grown up

When you can demonstrate how much bigger you are?

 

I do not think that this helps, brother.

But the good news is:

I even think there is no need for such effort!

I tell you why:

 

Where ever you want to reach

You are already where you should be

Who ever you want to be

You already are who you are

 

Let this sink in... and relax...

 

You dont need to be:

better - stronger

more clever - more enlightened

To be a GOOD BABA!

 

Someone can call you a stupid idiot,

Humorless, lame and as unenlightened as a fly -

But you will... JUST SMILE!

 

You are right, IT is in fact ALL a big joke

But only to those who understands how to laugh :-)

 

So lets have a good, hearty laugh together!

But I love you even without that...

Stefan

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

>

> >but poor little stefan's illusions and delusions bar the Realization.

> >this too shall pass my son....

>

> Ahhh, see how this " grown up " thing has hit you?

> Now you want me to be poor little stefan

> And moreover you even call me your son

> Only to show how grown up you are!

> And all this because I have written:

> " where are the grown ups? "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ahhhh, no stevie this 'grown up' thing hasn't 'hit' me.

 

as a music guy this 'hit' thing is just a silly obsession of yours.

 

an unfulfilled desire in your field as well as with me.

 

but don't give up..

 

magic sometimes happens for some old wannabes and has beens.

 

but by the same token..don't hold your breath.

 

a hit is usually the result of talent.

 

your inability to 'hit' me is most likely just a mirror of your failed

 

attempts at recording a 'hit' in your business.

 

and listen son, i talk to all infantiles this way..

 

you stated that you were sorry for mark so many times..

 

i felt it only fitting and proper to agree with your own self

 

assesment and refer to you thusly as 'poor stephan'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Why did you not simply say: " Here! "

 

 

 

 

 

well now stefan..

 

i didn't just say 'here' because i didn't say 'here'.

 

is this a difficulty for you?

 

i believe it should be easily understood without question.

 

it's like a two year old incessantly asking 'why' for every statement.

 

this too is ok...you'll yet mature i assure you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Are you only able to feel like a grown up

> When you can demonstrate how much bigger you are?

 

 

 

 

 

 

this grown up thing could only be the obsession it is for you if you

 

felt somehow inadequate or childishly impish.

 

i'd suggest a look in the mirror.

 

this will unquestionably assure you that you are no spring chicken..

 

and may be a contributing factor in your ability to stop being so

 

deluded about your state of affairs and physical elderness.

 

by the bye steve..baba has no desire to feel like what you seem to

 

think is a grown up..

 

as a child i was educated by nuns...

 

i never wanted to be or feel like one.

 

and from your perspective, as displayed in your writings..

 

there seems to be a strong relationship between acting 'grown up...

 

and acting or being 'nunnish'.

 

 

> I do not think that this helps, brother.

> But the good news is:

> I even think there is no need for such effort!

> I tell you why:

>

> Where ever you want to reach

> You are already where you should be

> Who ever you want to be

> You already are who you are

>

> Let this sink in... and relax...

>

> You dont need to be:

> better - stronger

> more clever - more enlightened

> To be a GOOD BABA!

>

> Someone can call you a stupid idiot,

> Humorless, lame and as unenlightened as a fly -

> But you will... JUST SMILE!

>

> You are right, IT is in fact ALL a big joke

> But only to those who understands how to laugh :-)

>

> So lets have a good, hearty laugh together!

> But I love you even without that...

> Stefan

 

 

oh brother..

 

what bullshit.

 

LOL!

 

i am smiling little one...i always do.

 

on your statement regarding 'such effort'...

 

keep your own advise and embrace your own unctuous inner kid.

 

as you say...you're already 'that' and 'there'.

 

and sure..let's laugh together on that.

 

remember...you are never apart from baba.

 

this is an impossibility.

 

but .b bobji understands.

 

many are called, few are chosen..

 

but strive on among the brethren..

 

the wind blows where it listeth..

 

and...

 

baba chooses as he will..

 

and your time may yet come.

 

..b b.b.

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Hi Baba,

 

I can see from your defensive reactions that I have to apologize. I

did not want to hurt you when I wrote " where are the grown ups " . It

was just a remark, well, with a little insider story behind it... I am

around here quite a long time, you know, but only sporadicly and I am

certainly not one of the oldies. But to some this phrase means

something, still. Anyway, I apologize when I have hurt your feelings.

 

But please, do not tell me that " this grown-up thing " is for me an

" obsession " . I would like to politely remind you that you have started

this thing, you are again trying to start a dispute about it and

actually are making an elephant from a mouse. Just ask yourself, where

is the obsession? Now that you have told me something about your

childhood I start to understand a little better. Nevertheless, I am

looking into the mirror, into many kinds of mirror. It is not always

easy, but I would like to suggest the same to you. Only if you like,

and certainly it is not my business to give you advices.

 

>you stated that you were sorry for mark so many times..

 

Did I say something like this? I really do not remember and maybe

this was someone else. But anyway, if I did say this, I must have

started another problem and obviously it has hurt you as well. But

why? Tell me, whats wrong about saying " I feel sorry " to somebody? I

perfectly know, that the pain that I am feeling is my own pain. But

still I feel it can be appropriate to share a feeling in this way. In

my eyes there is nothing wrong about feeling pain, feeling sorry and

sharing that.

 

You are calling me " poor " and some other things. On the other

hand I realize how sensitive your reactions are and how easily you

feel attacked. In this group there are people with so many different

backgrounds, it is miraculous that we can have conversations at all. I

guess, it has to do with a certain level of tolerance? I can accept

that you have apparently a concept of different " levels " in spiritual

growth and are having no problem putting yourself on the top of the

ladder. I remember I had such concepts a long time ago, but I had to

throw them out of the window along with a lot of other rubbish. So,

when I disagree with certain concepts it is because of my own

background, but I certainly do not want to be disrespectful.

 

All the best

Stefan

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Hi Baba,

>

> I can see from your defensive reactions that I have to apologize. I

> did not want to hurt you when I wrote " where are the grown ups " . It

> was just a remark, well, with a little insider story behind it... I am

> around here quite a long time, you know, but only sporadicly and I am

> certainly not one of the oldies. But to some this phrase means

> something, still. Anyway, I apologize when I have hurt your feelings.

>

> But please, do not tell me that " this grown-up thing " is for me an

> " obsession " . I would like to politely remind you that you have started

> this thing, you are again trying to start a dispute about it and

> actually are making an elephant from a mouse. Just ask yourself, where

> is the obsession? Now that you have told me something about your

> childhood I start to understand a little better. Nevertheless, I am

> looking into the mirror, into many kinds of mirror. It is not always

> easy, but I would like to suggest the same to you. Only if you like,

> and certainly it is not my business to give you advices.

>

> >you stated that you were sorry for mark so many times..

>

> Did I say something like this? I really do not remember and maybe

> this was someone else. But anyway, if I did say this, I must have

> started another problem and obviously it has hurt you as well. But

> why? Tell me, whats wrong about saying " I feel sorry " to somebody? I

> perfectly know, that the pain that I am feeling is my own pain. But

> still I feel it can be appropriate to share a feeling in this way. In

> my eyes there is nothing wrong about feeling pain, feeling sorry and

> sharing that.

>

> You are calling me " poor " and some other things. On the other

> hand I realize how sensitive your reactions are and how easily you

> feel attacked. In this group there are people with so many different

> backgrounds, it is miraculous that we can have conversations at all. I

> guess, it has to do with a certain level of tolerance? I can accept

> that you have apparently a concept of different " levels " in spiritual

> growth and are having no problem putting yourself on the top of the

> ladder. I remember I had such concepts a long time ago, but I had to

> throw them out of the window along with a lot of other rubbish. So,

> when I disagree with certain concepts it is because of my own

> background, but I certainly do not want to be disrespectful.

>

> All the best

> Stefan

 

 

 

:-)

 

ROFLMAO!

 

stevie you sure are a pistol.

 

you spent all that time and effort defending your 'self' by calling me

 

defensive.

 

ho ho ho!....

 

and kid..you are THE smarmiest ding dong here.

 

you've had your little feelings injured...

 

and feel compelled, like the pot, to call the kettle black.

 

are you truly that sensetive kiddo?

 

such sanctimonious bullshit stefan.

 

that's your true talent.

 

and baba absoulutely does NOT believe in 'levels' of anything.

 

..b bobji has stated this MANY times.

 

for you this facet of .b b.b. seems difficult to grasp.

 

or..

 

you just seem to feel that you must defend your actions without

 

reference to truly what's what.

 

so long ago you gave it all up eh?

 

you ARE deluded.

 

reread your posting and try and say thay again with a straight face.

 

no disrespect fella.

 

and stefan..don't kid yourself..

 

you don't have the stuff to bother me.

 

and baba is never 'hurt' by anyone or anything at any time.

 

don't try and give ypourself credit for the ability to do so.

 

by now you should be ashamed of yourself for even attempting to sling

 

that nonsense to baba or anyone.

 

if this helps you i'll play along..

 

love and kisses loser,

 

..b bobji baba

 

:-)))

 

p.s.

 

baba can see your pain but doesn't share it.

 

it's too amusing to be considered as anything but a joke.

 

keep smilin' steve-a-rino.

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Hey Baba,

 

it is great that you call me " a loser " :

Because this way you are showing

Your great desire to be the winner

 

This can be easily settled

And I have a BIG surprise for you:

I declare in front of everybody:

you ARE the winner!

 

No need anymore:

to defend yourself

to prove that you are right

to declare that you are superior

 

No need anymore to show that you are NOT:

small, inferior, childish,

immature, lame, poor...

 

No need anymore to demonstrate your:

intelligence, brilliance, greatness...

 

Because now:

nobody is accusing you of anything!

The whole cosmos loves you!

Is this not great?

 

Now you can finally relax...

can be who you are...

can enjoy the peace of being at ease

my beloved friend!

 

How about this?

:-)

Stefan

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Hey Baba,

>

> it is great that you call me " a loser " :

> Because this way you are showing

> Your great desire to be the winner

>

> This can be easily settled

> And I have a BIG surprise for you:

> I declare in front of everybody:

> you ARE the winner!

>

> No need anymore:

> to defend yourself

> to prove that you are right

> to declare that you are superior

>

> No need anymore to show that you are NOT:

> small, inferior, childish,

> immature, lame, poor...

>

> No need anymore to demonstrate your:

> intelligence, brilliance, greatness...

>

> Because now:

> nobody is accusing you of anything!

> The whole cosmos loves you!

> Is this not great?

>

> Now you can finally relax...

> can be who you are...

> can enjoy the peace of being at ease

> my beloved friend!

>

> How about this?

> :-)

> Stefan

 

 

LOL!

 

ok stefan..i new you'd come to your senses as time went by.

 

but you can disabuse yourself of this weird notion of yours that

 

somehow or another baba was ill at ease or unrelaxed.

 

this was just a reactive idea in action due to your mindset..

 

you seem to act as a device that puts forth conjectures..

 

then turns them into some strange theorem of self deception..

 

a theorem that pleases your sense of identity...

 

regardless of any validity in reality.

 

this is ok..

 

but stephan...

 

it's ok that you love me...

 

but guy..baba knows the cosmos..and you're no cosmos.

 

please do not try and speak for such.

 

how about a dandy game of chess..

 

or 'go fish' if that's more your forte.

 

take heart my beloved fair haired pet!

 

you have lost to a master.

 

how about that?

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Hey Baba,

>

> it is great that you call me " a loser " :

> Because this way you are showing

> Your great desire to be the winner

>

> This can be easily settled

> And I have a BIG surprise for you:

> I declare in front of everybody:

> you ARE the winner!

>

> No need anymore:

> to defend yourself

> to prove that you are right

> to declare that you are superior

>

> No need anymore to show that you are NOT:

> small, inferior, childish,

> immature, lame, poor...

>

> No need anymore to demonstrate your:

> intelligence, brilliance, greatness...

>

> Because now:

> nobody is accusing you of anything!

> The whole cosmos loves you!

> Is this not great?

>

> Now you can finally relax...

> can be who you are...

> can enjoy the peace of being at ease

> my beloved friend!

>

> How about this?

> :-)

> Stefan

 

 

 

.....look like you get again in conflict here between your concept of

(great) ego....means, talk between two egos.....

 

and this your mentionned.....reflection-concept.....

 

do you realy think that one could mixe up this....just like that?...

 

....would explain little your words...which, in fact....always tend to

say something else (opposite)....as " you " want to express.....etc

 

Marc

 

Ps: it's not such easy Stefan.....be careful :)

>

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Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>you have lost to a master.

 

Hey Baba!

 

For most to win means that everybody else has lost.

For some to lose means that everything is gained.

 

All the best

Stefan

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >you have lost to a master.

>

> Hey Baba!

>

> For most to win means that everybody else has lost.

> For some to lose means that everything is gained.

>

> All the best

> Stefan

 

 

that's a boy.

 

my fave sanctimonious sultan of smarminess.

 

take comfort in your delusions..

 

they are all you have left.

 

has that gained you any loss of unctuousness.

 

no..obviously not.

 

my buttery phony has maintained his bullshit attitude.

 

good for you sister stephanie.

 

you're the captain of self deception still.

 

blessed are the mildly meek...

 

for theirs is the kingdom of ding-a-ling insincerity.

 

see what you have gained?

 

aren't you proud?

 

i thought so.

 

it takes very little to please small minds.

 

i'm happy this holds true for you.

 

and...you of course may not remenber this..but thats about three times

 

you've started with " hey babaw! "

 

a little variety would be nice..

 

but then variety, like sincerity and intelligence seems to elude you.

 

 

the best of All,

 

..b b.b.

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I can see that the master is now trying to prove

That he is also a great writer

But he sounds as if he has smoked something weird

 

Baba, can you still hear me?

 

You will gain all when you give up

This is easy to understand, because:

there is nobody to give up

there is nobody to gain

there is all

 

But first, start by trying to

take things as they are!

For example: start with Stefan.

Somebody has appeared

A name on a screen

Like a fly on a windowpane

 

What will you do?

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

>

>

> >Ps: it's not such easy Stefan.....be careful :)

>

> Its easier than you may think!

>

> Stefan

 

 

i'm not interested in thinking...:)

 

 

Marc

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> I can see that the master is now trying to prove

> That he is also a great writer

> But he sounds as if he has smoked something weird

>

> Baba, can you still hear me?

>

> You will gain all when you give up

> This is easy to understand, because:

> there is nobody to give up

> there is nobody to gain

> there is all

>

> But first, start by trying to

> take things as they are!

> For example: start with Stefan.

> Somebody has appeared

> A name on a screen

> Like a fly on a windowpane

>

> What will you do?

 

 

well stevie..i will Laugh Out Loud!

 

stefan IS like a pest fly..on a windowpane as he himself explains.

 

oh god you're silly!

 

get over yourself stevie.

 

that's the FIRST thing YOU should give up.

 

it must be a drag to live with that sorry self anyway.

 

you have much to gain and NOTHING to lose..

 

by losing that sorry, stupid, silly, sappy, smarmy, self.

 

and EVERYTHING to be ashamed of one way or the other.

 

why not blow out some new age music that goes nowhere.

 

your intended audience of no one and nothing awaits.

 

and steven..stefan..stev-a-rino...

 

that's stuff smoked is not weird it's the BOMB!

 

too bad about your luck.

 

LOL!

 

p.s.

 

 

what the hell are you talking about re the great writer shit?

 

i wouldn't bother actually writing something of worth for you.

 

that would be such a waste.

 

if that's what you think about the stuff i've exchanged here with you

 

well kid..you must have a ridiculous idea of what great writing is.

 

what do you keep in your puny libraray?

 

scandal sheets with lots of pictures?

 

i'd say that was sad but truthfully i find it funny and fitting.

 

now i'll sign off with a swifty..

 

yours in laughter my little lilliputian,

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Good, thats why I said: it is easier *than* you may think

 

Stefan

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > >Ps: it's not such easy Stefan.....be careful :)

> >

> > Its easier than you may think!

> >

> > Stefan

>

>

> i'm not interested in thinking...:)

>

>

> Marc

>

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Good morning, Baba!

 

As I can see you are still here and you are still finding this

conversation entertaining. Great!

 

We can continue this, if you like,

Those 5 minutes per day I can still afford.

But please try to raise the level of your

Writing style a bit, just a bit,

This is becoming embarrassing for you right now,

Don't you think?

 

Yes, we can go on to exchange messages,

But I have to inform you about something

That you are obviously not aware off:

You are only talking to yourself!

All those your hopes:

To safe your face, to defend your beliefs,

to prove your mastership, to be the " winner " :

Ar in vain.

 

The last time I have asked you a question,

And you have given the wrong answers.

But I am giving your one more chance.

Just see the picture in front of you:

A fly appears on your windowpane.

Would you spend hours

to declare and prove that you are bigger than him,

And that you are the beholder of the truth?

 

It seems unbelievable, but there are people they do exactly this.

They talk to a fly, to a shadow, to a fantasy, to themselves...

As if this is the most important thing in life.

Does this not sound a little familiar to you?

 

But now, there is the second chance:

 

Somebody has appeared

A name on a screen

Like a fly on a windowpane

What will you do?

 

All the best

Stefan

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote:

 

> > But first, start by trying to

> > take things as they are!

> > For example: start with Stefan.

> > Somebody has appeared

> > A name on a screen

> > Like a fly on a windowpane

> >

> > What will you do?

>

>

> well stevie..i will Laugh Out Loud!

>

> stefan IS like a pest fly..on a windowpane as he himself explains.

>

> oh god you're silly!

>

> get over yourself stevie.

>

> that's the FIRST thing YOU should give up.

>

> it must be a drag to live with that sorry self anyway.

>

> you have much to gain and NOTHING to lose..

>

> by losing that sorry, stupid, silly, sappy, smarmy, self.

>

> and EVERYTHING to be ashamed of one way or the other.

>

> why not blow out some new age music that goes nowhere.

>

> your intended audience of no one and nothing awaits.

>

> and steven..stefan..stev-a-rino...

>

> that's stuff smoked is not weird it's the BOMB!

>

> too bad about your luck.

>

> LOL!

>

> p.s.

>

>

> what the hell are you talking about re the great writer shit?

>

> i wouldn't bother actually writing something of worth for you.

>

> that would be such a waste.

>

> if that's what you think about the stuff i've exchanged here with you

>

> well kid..you must have a ridiculous idea of what great writing is.

>

> what do you keep in your puny libraray?

>

> scandal sheets with lots of pictures?

>

> i'd say that was sad but truthfully i find it funny and fitting.

>

> now i'll sign off with a swifty..

>

> yours in laughter my little lilliputian,

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

>

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Good, thats why I said: it is easier *than* you may think

>

> Stefan

 

 

yes....you surely have always a Reason....for what you say....

even if you are talking to yourself....only.....

 

yes...this your view (concept) is even true....

 

ego minds talk to themself.....exclusivly....and only.....

due to the reflection of ignorance (ego)

 

ego minds....therefore.....are just flies.....and great jokes....

and cause the whole of entertainment....for the ones they can't

understand....where they are.....and who they are , for real...

 

so....the play go on....as long as you wish too....no problem....lol

 

but know, that the attention you imagine to get....

will disappear....just like the dream disappear....when you wake up

from sleep in the morning

 

 

Marc

 

 

Ps: it's never too late to get some more heart....means, to loose

some more of ego....you are attached too.....like a baby to the mother

>

>

 

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > >Ps: it's not such easy Stefan.....be careful :)

> > >

> > > Its easier than you may think!

> > >

> > > Stefan

> >

> >

> > i'm not interested in thinking...:)

> >

> >

> > Marc

> >

>

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Good morning, Baba!

>

> As I can see you are still here and you are still finding this

> conversation entertaining. Great!

>

> We can continue this, if you like,

> Those 5 minutes per day I can still afford.

> But please try to raise the level of your

> Writing style a bit, just a bit,

> This is becoming embarrassing for you right now,

> Don't you think?

 

 

 

no..it's you who doesn't think.

 

likely why you seek clarifications and psychological help.

 

you only have five minutes free from therapy stefie?

 

i can see your shame but it makes me laugh.

 

LOL!

 

and as for my quick notes to you..i've said i wouldn't bother with

 

good OR great writing.

 

as said, that would be a waste given your shortcomings.

 

obviously with your inability to understand what is written...

 

coupled with your horrific style, prose and general non sequiturs...

 

as displayed in your attempts at communicating in what is obviosly

 

not your native tongue...

 

you need some study and discipline.

 

from this exchange herr von stefan...i can see you like discipline.

 

and also as stated before..baba never feels embarassed like yourself.

 

this merely projection on your part due to your own personal shame..

 

and that's quite rightfully placed so don't feel guilty.

 

you deserve to feel shamed..

 

you've earned this right to feel inferior and inadequate.

 

go for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Yes, we can go on to exchange messages,

> But I have to inform you about something

> That you are obviously not aware off:

> You are only talking to yourself!

> All those your hopes:

> To safe your face, to defend your beliefs,

> to prove your mastership, to be the " winner " :

> Ar in vain.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

'to 'safe' face'?

 

'Ar' in vain'?

 

is this an example of your exemplary writing.

 

oh stevie you have a long road ahead in seeing your true condition.

 

and once again guy..i must remind you it would seem..

 

baba has NO beliefs.

 

said MANY times stevie..

 

i had thought before that you just had misread baba's love notes.

 

now here once again i see that it's just an inability to 'get' or

 

understand what has been written on your part.

 

again this is sort of sad but damn funny too.

 

ha ha ha ha!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> The last time I have asked you a question,

> And you have given the wrong answers.

> But I am giving your one more chance.

> Just see the picture in front of you:

> A fly appears on your windowpane.

> Would you spend hours

> to declare and prove that you are bigger than him,

> And that you are the beholder of the truth?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

how droll!

 

there are no 'wrong' answers if there are no things, people etc.

 

your fascination with bigness, rightness and righteousness, what

 

'truth' is (good luck with that one pal), winners and losers, chance

 

giving..on and on..ALL betray your proclivity for self deception and

 

misunderstandings.

 

this evidently is not just an inclination towards silliness..

 

it is your state in general.

 

cheer up my son..

 

baba is here to help and will stay on the case as long as neccesary..

 

or as long as it's so obvious how shallow and smarmy you are.

 

this may well take a lifetime.

 

this will of course make you happy.

 

bobji knows that his small favors please small minds.

 

he gives freely to all.

 

of course much larger favors are afforded larger minds which

 

comprehend his benevolence....

 

unlike the small ones, like your's, which haven't the ability to

 

understand the great gift of the baba's 'doings'.

 

do not lose heart even though you've lost face.

 

you will need a strong heart to compensate for the weak mind you have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

> It seems unbelievable, but there are people they do exactly this.

> They talk to a fly, to a shadow, to a fantasy, to themselves...

> As if this is the most important thing in life.

> Does this not sound a little familiar to you?

 

 

 

why yes it does stevie..

 

and no this does not sound unbelievable..

 

nor is the opposite possibility...

 

the fly talking to the obviously bigger and wiser figure..

 

who looks at it.

 

you are living breathing proof of the second case.

 

these things are only seem 'unbelievable' or 'strange' to

 

those with no imagination, creativity, wisdom, life experience,

 

understanding..well i could go on but as one of these 'those' you most

 

certainly can at least grasp this..the life you know....

 

a life on the fly obviously.

 

what ARE you running from child of misfortune?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> But now, there is the second chance:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

again with this 'second' or 'one more' chance?

 

how germanic in nature!

 

what comes after a your perception of a 'failed' second or

 

'unsuccessful' one more (chance)?

 

a final solution?

 

well..as you are in crete and i am not...

 

i can say without paradox..

 

ALL cretans are liars..

 

and in your case..

 

this one cretan is a cretin too.

 

LOL!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Somebody has appeared

> A name on a screen

> Like a fly on a windowpane

> What will you do?

>

> All the best

> Stefan

 

 

 

you don't have much of a repetoire do you little one?

 

is your stage show as repetitive and boring?

 

this may have contributed to your inability to ever score a 'hit'.

 

well baba is here for you to cry and whine too.

 

i hope it helps.

 

and..excuse me....

 

i must turn around...

 

i'm beginning to giggle at you again.

 

i know how this hurts you and pisses you off...

 

but..

 

it's for your own good my child.

 

when you mature you will understand...

 

than again...

 

in your situation maybe you won't.

 

at least 'that' is understanble to all of us here.

 

 

 

sincerely,

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote:

>

> > > But first, start by trying to

> > > take things as they are!

> > > For example: start with Stefan.

> > > Somebody has appeared

> > > A name on a screen

> > > Like a fly on a windowpane

> > >

> > > What will you do?

> >

> >

> > well stevie..i will Laugh Out Loud!

> >

> > stefan IS like a pest fly..on a windowpane as he himself explains.

> >

> > oh god you're silly!

> >

> > get over yourself stevie.

> >

> > that's the FIRST thing YOU should give up.

> >

> > it must be a drag to live with that sorry self anyway.

> >

> > you have much to gain and NOTHING to lose..

> >

> > by losing that sorry, stupid, silly, sappy, smarmy, self.

> >

> > and EVERYTHING to be ashamed of one way or the other.

> >

> > why not blow out some new age music that goes nowhere.

> >

> > your intended audience of no one and nothing awaits.

> >

> > and steven..stefan..stev-a-rino...

> >

> > that's stuff smoked is not weird it's the BOMB!

> >

> > too bad about your luck.

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > p.s.

> >

> >

> > what the hell are you talking about re the great writer shit?

> >

> > i wouldn't bother actually writing something of worth for you.

> >

> > that would be such a waste.

> >

> > if that's what you think about the stuff i've exchanged here with you

> >

> > well kid..you must have a ridiculous idea of what great writing is.

> >

> > what do you keep in your puny libraray?

> >

> > scandal sheets with lots of pictures?

> >

> > i'd say that was sad but truthfully i find it funny and fitting.

> >

> > now i'll sign off with a swifty..

> >

> > yours in laughter my little lilliputian,

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

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Wow, this is amazing!

Every time I open the Nisargadatta group page

I find another message from Big Baba!!!

 

So, now comes your 5 minutes!

 

This issue of writing good / writing bad

Why is this of so much importance to you?

If I recall correctly, this is your third posting

You spend defending your writing style

 

Did I not tell you to relax???

<smile>

 

Now I will phrase that question differently,

So that you have a better chance to follow

And maybe find a relaxed answer:

 

When you find a fly on your windowpane

(maybe named magicsteve <hint><hint>)

What will you do?

Will you write long emails to the fly

Elaborating how ugly it appears on your window

How it disturbs your great view onto Big Baba Valley

And how small, dirty and stupid it is?

 

Is it this what you would do?

Are there not more appropriate solutions?

Come on, I am sure you know better, my friend :-)

 

Stefan

 

P.S. You have written:

" baba absoulutely does NOT believe in 'levels' of anything "

(note: ab-SOUL-utely, how beautiful!)

 

This is certainly the statement of a belief.

Along with countless other beliefs

That you are stating here.

But what is the problem?

Why are you declaring that Baba has no beliefs?

I did not blame you for your beliefs...

Who did?

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

 

> no..it's you who doesn't think.

>

> likely why you seek clarifications and psychological help.

>

> you only have five minutes free from therapy stefie?

>

> i can see your shame but it makes me laugh.

>

> LOL!

>

> and as for my quick notes to you..i've said i wouldn't bother with

>

> good OR great writing.

>

> as said, that would be a waste given your shortcomings.

>

> obviously with your inability to understand what is written...

>

> coupled with your horrific style, prose and general non sequiturs...

>

> as displayed in your attempts at communicating in what is obviosly

>

> not your native tongue...

>

> you need some study and discipline.

>

> from this exchange herr von stefan...i can see you like discipline.

>

> and also as stated before..baba never feels embarassed like yourself.

>

> this merely projection on your part due to your own personal shame..

>

> and that's quite rightfully placed so don't feel guilty.

>

> you deserve to feel shamed..

>

> you've earned this right to feel inferior and inadequate.

>

> go for it.

>

> Yes, we can go on to exchange messages,

> > But I have to inform you about something

> > That you are obviously not aware off:

> > You are only talking to yourself!

> > All those your hopes:

> > To safe your face, to defend your beliefs,

> > to prove your mastership, to be the " winner " :

> > Ar in vain.

>

'to 'safe' face'?

>

> 'Ar' in vain'?

>

> is this an example of your exemplary writing.

>

> oh stevie you have a long road ahead in seeing your true condition.

>

> and once again guy..i must remind you it would seem..

>

> baba has NO beliefs.

>

> said MANY times stevie..

>

> i had thought before that you just had misread baba's love notes.

>

> now here once again i see that it's just an inability to 'get' or

>

> understand what has been written on your part.

>

> again this is sort of sad but damn funny too.

>

> ha ha ha ha!

>

> The last time I have asked you a question,

> > And you have given the wrong answers.

> > But I am giving your one more chance.

> > Just see the picture in front of you:

> > A fly appears on your windowpane.

> > Would you spend hours

> > to declare and prove that you are bigger than him,

> > And that you are the beholder of the truth?

>

>

how droll!

>

> there are no 'wrong' answers if there are no things, people etc.

>

> your fascination with bigness, rightness and righteousness, what

>

> 'truth' is (good luck with that one pal), winners and losers, chance

>

> giving..on and on..ALL betray your proclivity for self deception and

>

> misunderstandings.

>

> this evidently is not just an inclination towards silliness..

>

> it is your state in general.

>

> cheer up my son..

>

> baba is here to help and will stay on the case as long as neccesary..

>

> or as long as it's so obvious how shallow and smarmy you are.

>

> this may well take a lifetime.

>

> this will of course make you happy.

>

> bobji knows that his small favors please small minds.

>

> he gives freely to all.

>

> of course much larger favors are afforded larger minds which

>

> comprehend his benevolence....

>

> unlike the small ones, like your's, which haven't the ability to

>

> understand the great gift of the baba's 'doings'.

>

> do not lose heart even though you've lost face.

>

> you will need a strong heart to compensate for the weak mind you have.

> It seems unbelievable, but there are people they do exactly this.

> > They talk to a fly, to a shadow, to a fantasy, to themselves...

> > As if this is the most important thing in life.

> > Does this not sound a little familiar to you?

>

>

>

> why yes it does stevie..

>

> and no this does not sound unbelievable..

>

> nor is the opposite possibility...

>

> the fly talking to the obviously bigger and wiser figure..

>

> who looks at it.

>

> you are living breathing proof of the second case.

>

> these things are only seem 'unbelievable' or 'strange' to

>

> those with no imagination, creativity, wisdom, life experience,

>

> understanding..well i could go on but as one of these 'those' you most

>

> certainly can at least grasp this..the life you know....

>

> a life on the fly obviously.

>

> what ARE you running from child of misfortune?

>

>

>

> But now, there is the second chance:

>

>

again with this 'second' or 'one more' chance?

>

> how germanic in nature!

>

> what comes after a your perception of a 'failed' second or

>

> 'unsuccessful' one more (chance)?

>

> a final solution?

>

> well..as you are in crete and i am not...

>

> i can say without paradox..

>

> ALL cretans are liars..

>

> and in your case..

>

> this one cretan is a cretin too.

>

> LOL!

>

> Somebody has appeared

> > A name on a screen

> > Like a fly on a windowpane

> > What will you do?

> >

> > All the best

> > Stefan

>

>

>

> you don't have much of a repetoire do you little one?

>

> is your stage show as repetitive and boring?

>

> this may have contributed to your inability to ever score a 'hit'.

>

> well baba is here for you to cry and whine too.

>

> i hope it helps.

>

> and..excuse me....

>

> i must turn around...

>

> i'm beginning to giggle at you again.

>

> i know how this hurts you and pisses you off...

>

> but..

>

> it's for your own good my child.

>

> when you mature you will understand...

>

> than again...

>

> in your situation maybe you won't.

>

> at least 'that' is understanble to all of us here.

>

>

>

> sincerely,

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

>

>

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote:

> >

> > > > But first, start by trying to

> > > > take things as they are!

> > > > For example: start with Stefan.

> > > > Somebody has appeared

> > > > A name on a screen

> > > > Like a fly on a windowpane

> > > >

> > > > What will you do?

> > >

> > >

> > > well stevie..i will Laugh Out Loud!

> > >

> > > stefan IS like a pest fly..on a windowpane as he himself explains.

> > >

> > > oh god you're silly!

> > >

> > > get over yourself stevie.

> > >

> > > that's the FIRST thing YOU should give up.

> > >

> > > it must be a drag to live with that sorry self anyway.

> > >

> > > you have much to gain and NOTHING to lose..

> > >

> > > by losing that sorry, stupid, silly, sappy, smarmy, self.

> > >

> > > and EVERYTHING to be ashamed of one way or the other.

> > >

> > > why not blow out some new age music that goes nowhere.

> > >

> > > your intended audience of no one and nothing awaits.

> > >

> > > and steven..stefan..stev-a-rino...

> > >

> > > that's stuff smoked is not weird it's the BOMB!

> > >

> > > too bad about your luck.

> > >

> > > LOL!

> > >

> > > p.s.

> > >

> > >

> > > what the hell are you talking about re the great writer shit?

> > >

> > > i wouldn't bother actually writing something of worth for you.

> > >

> > > that would be such a waste.

> > >

> > > if that's what you think about the stuff i've exchanged here

with you

> > >

> > > well kid..you must have a ridiculous idea of what great writing is.

> > >

> > > what do you keep in your puny libraray?

> > >

> > > scandal sheets with lots of pictures?

> > >

> > > i'd say that was sad but truthfully i find it funny and fitting.

> > >

> > > now i'll sign off with a swifty..

> > >

> > > yours in laughter my little lilliputian,

> > >

> > > :-)

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Marc,

 

good! you have observed this very well!

 

:-)

Stefan

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

 

> yes....you surely have always a Reason....for what you say....

> even if you are talking to yourself....only.....

>

> yes...this your view (concept) is even true....

>

> ego minds talk to themself.....exclusivly....and only.....

> due to the reflection of ignorance (ego)

>

> ego minds....therefore.....are just flies.....and great jokes....

> and cause the whole of entertainment....for the ones they can't

> understand....where they are.....and who they are , for real...

>

> so....the play go on....as long as you wish too....no problem....lol

>

> but know, that the attention you imagine to get....

> will disappear....just like the dream disappear....when you wake up

> from sleep in the morning

>

>

> Marc

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Wow, this is amazing!

> Every time I open the Nisargadatta group page

> I find another message from Big Baba!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no it's not amazing.

 

what's amazing is how such unimportant and small things so easily

 

amaze simpletons like yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

> So, now comes your 5 minutes!

>

> This issue of writing good / writing bad

> Why is this of so much importance to you?

 

 

 

 

stefan! YOU are the one that is making a big deal out of the writing.

 

not the baba.

 

baba is just laughing at you.

 

try and get a grip kid.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I recall correctly, this is your third posting

> You spend defending your writing style

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no stefie.... baba isn't defending it.

 

he has said (three times now) that he isn't going to defend his

 

writing.

 

that he intentionally doesn't even bother with trying to be anything

 

but simple... and sweet... and dumbed down in his exchanges with

 

yourself...

 

baba has to be..

 

essentially so that you could understand.

 

i guess it's a reading comprehension problem with you.

 

you just are incapable of understanding even this elementary style.

 

this is pitiable but funny too.

 

you just can't get it.

 

 

 

 

 

> Did I not tell you to relax???

> <smile>

 

 

 

 

 

LOL!

 

baba doesn't give the slightest consideration to fools' advise.

 

in particular when it suggests doing what is already being

 

done...feeling how one already feels...relaxing when one already is

 

relaxed.

 

you're just plain silly stevie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Now I will phrase that question differently,

> So that you have a better chance to follow

> And maybe find a relaxed answer:

>

> When you find a fly on your windowpane

> (maybe named magicsteve <hint><hint>)

> What will you do?

> Will you write long emails to the fly

> Elaborating how ugly it appears on your window

> How it disturbs your great view onto Big Baba Valley

> And how small, dirty and stupid it is?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ROFLMAO!

 

you are a persistent pest steve-a-rino.

 

but damn you're good for a chuckle or two.

 

again with this stupid fly on the windowpane?

 

don't you have any creativity or imagination?

 

well it's very evident that you don't.

 

i shouldn't ask..you obviously refuse to answer..

 

the answer would be (if truthful) very shameful for you.

 

but as explained before (and misunderstood by you)..

 

don't worry about feeling dull and ashamed..

 

you've earned the right to feel that way...

 

and continue to earn that right..right here.

 

reread that mishmash paragraph of yours above..

 

and if you aren't ashamed of it's lack of contextual sense..

 

you should be even more ashamed than you already are.

 

it's like picking fly shit out of pepper..

 

stupid, nonsensical, ridiculous, and so stefan like.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Is it this what you would do?

> Are there not more appropriate solutions?

> Come on, I am sure you know better, my friend :-)

>

> Stefan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you ARE german aren't you?

 

always looking for de slushionz..

 

und de final solushionz shall be a master stroke.

 

do you also enjoy dressing up in uniforms und gooshtepping in a nice

 

march?

 

i'm sure you know better...

 

but following orders is more to your liking yes?

 

'solution'...you've got to be kidding kiddo.

 

there is no problem from the first.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> P.S. You have written:

> " baba absoulutely does NOT believe in 'levels' of anything "

> (note: ab-SOUL-utely, how beautiful!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you like that eh?

 

baba knew you would.

 

baba knows all.

 

just another small favor for a small mind.

 

i'm big on that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

> This is certainly the statement of a belief.

> Along with countless other beliefs

> That you are stating here.

> But what is the problem?

> Why are you declaring that Baba has no beliefs?

> I did not blame you for your beliefs...

> Who did?

 

 

 

 

 

YOU did.

 

before..... and right here above:

 

" This certainly the statement of a belief. Along with countless other

beliefs. "

 

and this is not blaming me of having or holding beliefs?

 

gee stevie you don't even understand or 'get'...

 

what you yourself write or say.

 

your mental defects are much larger than even baba had seen.

 

this is your problem.

 

see how nice bobji is?

 

you've asked what the problem was and he's spelled it out for you..

 

hopefully in small and simple enough terms that you possibly could

 

understand...

 

but baba isn't very hopeful on that after this stupid display of yours

 

wherein you don't even understand what what you're saying.

 

but master .b b.b. will not forsake a poor unfortunate like you.

 

he will laugh at you but he will stick with his promise and put out

 

his strong shoulder for your continued pathetic whimpers.

 

and you're welcome for the twenty seconds i've afforded you here.

 

did that nonsense really take you five minutes?

 

well..you're slow in many ways i guess.

 

is that schmaltzy new age crap of yours done largo like?

 

most likely in slow tempo from a slow mind.

 

good for sleeping like cool evenings and dull books.

 

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

>

> > no..it's you who doesn't think.

> >

> > likely why you seek clarifications and psychological help.

> >

> > you only have five minutes free from therapy stefie?

> >

> > i can see your shame but it makes me laugh.

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > and as for my quick notes to you..i've said i wouldn't bother with

> >

> > good OR great writing.

> >

> > as said, that would be a waste given your shortcomings.

> >

> > obviously with your inability to understand what is written...

> >

> > coupled with your horrific style, prose and general non sequiturs...

> >

> > as displayed in your attempts at communicating in what is obviosly

> >

> > not your native tongue...

> >

> > you need some study and discipline.

> >

> > from this exchange herr von stefan...i can see you like discipline.

> >

> > and also as stated before..baba never feels embarassed like yourself.

> >

> > this merely projection on your part due to your own personal shame..

> >

> > and that's quite rightfully placed so don't feel guilty.

> >

> > you deserve to feel shamed..

> >

> > you've earned this right to feel inferior and inadequate.

> >

> > go for it.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Yes, we can go on to exchange messages,

> > > But I have to inform you about something

> > > That you are obviously not aware off:

> > > You are only talking to yourself!

> > > All those your hopes:

> > > To safe your face, to defend your beliefs,

> > > to prove your mastership, to be the " winner " :

> > > Ar in vain.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > 'to 'safe' face'?

> >

> > 'Ar' in vain'?

> >

> > is this an example of your exemplary writing.

> >

> > oh stevie you have a long road ahead in seeing your true condition.

> >

> > and once again guy..i must remind you it would seem..

> >

> > baba has NO beliefs.

> >

> > said MANY times stevie..

> >

> > i had thought before that you just had misread baba's love notes.

> >

> > now here once again i see that it's just an inability to 'get' or

> >

> > understand what has been written on your part.

> >

> > again this is sort of sad but damn funny too.

> >

> > ha ha ha ha!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > The last time I have asked you a question,

> > > And you have given the wrong answers.

> > > But I am giving your one more chance.

> > > Just see the picture in front of you:

> > > A fly appears on your windowpane.

> > > Would you spend hours

> > > to declare and prove that you are bigger than him,

> > > And that you are the beholder of the truth?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > how droll!

> >

> > there are no 'wrong' answers if there are no things, people etc.

> >

> > your fascination with bigness, rightness and righteousness, what

> >

> > 'truth' is (good luck with that one pal), winners and losers, chance

> >

> > giving..on and on..ALL betray your proclivity for self deception and

> >

> > misunderstandings.

> >

> > this evidently is not just an inclination towards silliness..

> >

> > it is your state in general.

> >

> > cheer up my son..

> >

> > baba is here to help and will stay on the case as long as neccesary..

> >

> > or as long as it's so obvious how shallow and smarmy you are.

> >

> > this may well take a lifetime.

> >

> > this will of course make you happy.

> >

> > bobji knows that his small favors please small minds.

> >

> > he gives freely to all.

> >

> > of course much larger favors are afforded larger minds which

> >

> > comprehend his benevolence....

> >

> > unlike the small ones, like your's, which haven't the ability to

> >

> > understand the great gift of the baba's 'doings'.

> >

> > do not lose heart even though you've lost face.

> >

> > you will need a strong heart to compensate for the weak mind you have.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > It seems unbelievable, but there are people they do exactly this.

> > > They talk to a fly, to a shadow, to a fantasy, to themselves...

> > > As if this is the most important thing in life.

> > > Does this not sound a little familiar to you?

> >

> >

> >

> > why yes it does stevie..

> >

> > and no this does not sound unbelievable..

> >

> > nor is the opposite possibility...

> >

> > the fly talking to the obviously bigger and wiser figure..

> >

> > who looks at it.

> >

> > you are living breathing proof of the second case.

> >

> > these things are only seem 'unbelievable' or 'strange' to

> >

> > those with no imagination, creativity, wisdom, life experience,

> >

> > understanding..well i could go on but as one of these 'those' you

most

> >

> > certainly can at least grasp this..the life you know....

> >

> > a life on the fly obviously.

> >

> > what ARE you running from child of misfortune?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > But now, there is the second chance:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > again with this 'second' or 'one more' chance?

> >

> > how germanic in nature!

> >

> > what comes after a your perception of a 'failed' second or

> >

> > 'unsuccessful' one more (chance)?

> >

> > a final solution?

> >

> > well..as you are in crete and i am not...

> >

> > i can say without paradox..

> >

> > ALL cretans are liars..

> >

> > and in your case..

> >

> > this one cretan is a cretin too.

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Somebody has appeared

> > > A name on a screen

> > > Like a fly on a windowpane

> > > What will you do?

> > >

> > > All the best

> > > Stefan

> >

> >

> >

> > you don't have much of a repetoire do you little one?

> >

> > is your stage show as repetitive and boring?

> >

> > this may have contributed to your inability to ever score a 'hit'.

> >

> > well baba is here for you to cry and whine too.

> >

> > i hope it helps.

> >

> > and..excuse me....

> >

> > i must turn around...

> >

> > i'm beginning to giggle at you again.

> >

> > i know how this hurts you and pisses you off...

> >

> > but..

> >

> > it's for your own good my child.

> >

> > when you mature you will understand...

> >

> > than again...

> >

> > in your situation maybe you won't.

> >

> > at least 'that' is understanble to all of us here.

> >

> >

> >

> > sincerely,

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > > > But first, start by trying to

> > > > > take things as they are!

> > > > > For example: start with Stefan.

> > > > > Somebody has appeared

> > > > > A name on a screen

> > > > > Like a fly on a windowpane

> > > > >

> > > > > What will you do?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > well stevie..i will Laugh Out Loud!

> > > >

> > > > stefan IS like a pest fly..on a windowpane as he himself explains.

> > > >

> > > > oh god you're silly!

> > > >

> > > > get over yourself stevie.

> > > >

> > > > that's the FIRST thing YOU should give up.

> > > >

> > > > it must be a drag to live with that sorry self anyway.

> > > >

> > > > you have much to gain and NOTHING to lose..

> > > >

> > > > by losing that sorry, stupid, silly, sappy, smarmy, self.

> > > >

> > > > and EVERYTHING to be ashamed of one way or the other.

> > > >

> > > > why not blow out some new age music that goes nowhere.

> > > >

> > > > your intended audience of no one and nothing awaits.

> > > >

> > > > and steven..stefan..stev-a-rino...

> > > >

> > > > that's stuff smoked is not weird it's the BOMB!

> > > >

> > > > too bad about your luck.

> > > >

> > > > LOL!

> > > >

> > > > p.s.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > what the hell are you talking about re the great writer shit?

> > > >

> > > > i wouldn't bother actually writing something of worth for you.

> > > >

> > > > that would be such a waste.

> > > >

> > > > if that's what you think about the stuff i've exchanged here

> with you

> > > >

> > > > well kid..you must have a ridiculous idea of what great

writing is.

> > > >

> > > > what do you keep in your puny libraray?

> > > >

> > > > scandal sheets with lots of pictures?

> > > >

> > > > i'd say that was sad but truthfully i find it funny and fitting.

> > > >

> > > > now i'll sign off with a swifty..

> > > >

> > > > yours in laughter my little lilliputian,

> > > >

> > > > :-)

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Good morning Baba!

 

Thank you for another long email!

I see, you are still trying to prove to the fly

How superior Babas state is.

You are a true rebel!

Highly dedicated to your inexhaustible fight

Against the flies of this world!

 

But a fly has a simple mind,

It cannot understand why somebody

Who does not believe in " levels "

Goes on and on defending his " level " .

 

Go, go, young rebel!

But you have to sharpen your sword better

To be able to catch the little fly

That is humming around in your head.

 

Best wishes!

Stefan

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote:

> >

> > Wow, this is amazing!

> > Every time I open the Nisargadatta group page

> > I find another message from Big Baba!!!

>

no it's not amazing.

>

> what's amazing is how such unimportant and small things so easily

>

> amaze simpletons like yourself.

>

>

>

>

>

> > So, now comes your 5 minutes!

> >

> > This issue of writing good / writing bad

> > Why is this of so much importance to you?

>

>

>

>

> stefan! YOU are the one that is making a big deal out of the writing.

>

> not the baba.

>

> baba is just laughing at you.

>

> try and get a grip kid.

>

If I recall correctly, this is your third posting

> > You spend defending your writing style

>

>

no stefie.... baba isn't defending it.

>

> he has said (three times now) that he isn't going to defend his

>

> writing.

>

> that he intentionally doesn't even bother with trying to be anything

>

> but simple... and sweet... and dumbed down in his exchanges with

>

> yourself...

>

> baba has to be..

>

> essentially so that you could understand.

>

> i guess it's a reading comprehension problem with you.

>

> you just are incapable of understanding even this elementary style.

>

> this is pitiable but funny too.

>

> you just can't get it.

>

>

>

>

>

> > Did I not tell you to relax???

> > <smileLOL!

>

> baba doesn't give the slightest consideration to fools' advise.

>

> in particular when it suggests doing what is already being

>

> done...feeling how one already feels...relaxing when one already is

>

> relaxed.

>

> you're just plain silly stevie.

>

> Now I will phrase that question differently,

> > So that you have a better chance to follow

> > And maybe find a relaxed answer:

> >

> > When you find a fly on your windowpane

> > (maybe named magicsteve <hint><hint>)

> > What will you do?

> > Will you write long emails to the fly

> > Elaborating how ugly it appears on your window

> > How it disturbs your great view onto Big Baba Valley

> > And how small, dirty and stupid it is?

>

ROFLMAO!

>

> you are a persistent pest steve-a-rino.

>

> but damn you're good for a chuckle or two.

>

> again with this stupid fly on the windowpane?

>

> don't you have any creativity or imagination?

>

> well it's very evident that you don't.

>

> i shouldn't ask..you obviously refuse to answer..

>

> the answer would be (if truthful) very shameful for you.

>

> but as explained before (and misunderstood by you)..

>

> don't worry about feeling dull and ashamed..

>

> you've earned the right to feel that way...

>

> and continue to earn that right..right here.

>

> reread that mishmash paragraph of yours above..

>

> and if you aren't ashamed of it's lack of contextual sense..

>

> you should be even more ashamed than you already are.

>

> it's like picking fly shit out of pepper..

>

> stupid, nonsensical, ridiculous, and so stefan like.

>

>

>

> Is it this what you would do?

> > Are there not more appropriate solutions?

> > Come on, I am sure you know better, my friend :-)

> >

> > Stefan

>

>

>

>

you ARE german aren't you?

>

> always looking for de slushionz..

>

> und de final solushionz shall be a master stroke.

>

> do you also enjoy dressing up in uniforms und gooshtepping in a nice

>

> march?

>

> i'm sure you know better...

>

> but following orders is more to your liking yes?

>

> 'solution'...you've got to be kidding kiddo.

>

> there is no problem from the first.

>

> P.S. You have written:

> > " baba absoulutely does NOT believe in 'levels' of anything "

> > (note: ab-SOUL-utely, how beautiful!)

>

you like that eh?

>

> baba knew you would.

>

> baba knows all.

>

> just another small favor for a small mind.

>

> i'm big on that.

> This is certainly the statement of a belief.

> > Along with countless other beliefs

> > That you are stating here.

> > But what is the problem?

> > Why are you declaring that Baba has no beliefs?

> > I did not blame you for your beliefs...

> > Who did?

>

>

>

>

>

> YOU did.

>

> before..... and right here above:

>

> " This certainly the statement of a belief. Along with countless other

> beliefs. "

>

> and this is not blaming me of having or holding beliefs?

>

> gee stevie you don't even understand or 'get'...

>

> what you yourself write or say.

>

> your mental defects are much larger than even baba had seen.

>

> this is your problem.

>

> see how nice bobji is?

>

> you've asked what the problem was and he's spelled it out for you..

>

> hopefully in small and simple enough terms that you possibly could

>

> understand...

>

> but baba isn't very hopeful on that after this stupid display of yours

>

> wherein you don't even understand what what you're saying.

>

> but master .b b.b. will not forsake a poor unfortunate like you.

>

> he will laugh at you but he will stick with his promise and put out

>

> his strong shoulder for your continued pathetic whimpers.

>

> and you're welcome for the twenty seconds i've afforded you here.

>

> did that nonsense really take you five minutes?

>

> well..you're slow in many ways i guess.

>

> is that schmaltzy new age crap of yours done largo like?

>

> most likely in slow tempo from a slow mind.

>

> good for sleeping like cool evenings and dull books.

>

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > > no..it's you who doesn't think.

> > >

> > > likely why you seek clarifications and psychological help.

> > >

> > > you only have five minutes free from therapy stefie?

> > >

> > > i can see your shame but it makes me laugh.

> > >

> > > LOL!

> > >

> > > and as for my quick notes to you..i've said i wouldn't bother with

> > >

> > > good OR great writing.

> > >

> > > as said, that would be a waste given your shortcomings.

> > >

> > > obviously with your inability to understand what is written...

> > >

> > > coupled with your horrific style, prose and general non sequiturs...

> > >

> > > as displayed in your attempts at communicating in what is obviosly

> > >

> > > not your native tongue...

> > >

> > > you need some study and discipline.

> > >

> > > from this exchange herr von stefan...i can see you like discipline.

> > >

> > > and also as stated before..baba never feels embarassed like

yourself.

> > >

> > > this merely projection on your part due to your own personal shame..

> > >

> > > and that's quite rightfully placed so don't feel guilty.

> > >

> > > you deserve to feel shamed..

> > >

> > > you've earned this right to feel inferior and inadequate.

> > >

> > > go for it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Yes, we can go on to exchange messages,

> > > > But I have to inform you about something

> > > > That you are obviously not aware off:

> > > > You are only talking to yourself!

> > > > All those your hopes:

> > > > To safe your face, to defend your beliefs,

> > > > to prove your mastership, to be the " winner " :

> > > > Ar in vain.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 'to 'safe' face'?

> > >

> > > 'Ar' in vain'?

> > >

> > > is this an example of your exemplary writing.

> > >

> > > oh stevie you have a long road ahead in seeing your true condition.

> > >

> > > and once again guy..i must remind you it would seem..

> > >

> > > baba has NO beliefs.

> > >

> > > said MANY times stevie..

> > >

> > > i had thought before that you just had misread baba's love notes.

> > >

> > > now here once again i see that it's just an inability to 'get' or

> > >

> > > understand what has been written on your part.

> > >

> > > again this is sort of sad but damn funny too.

> > >

> > > ha ha ha ha!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > The last time I have asked you a question,

> > > > And you have given the wrong answers.

> > > > But I am giving your one more chance.

> > > > Just see the picture in front of you:

> > > > A fly appears on your windowpane.

> > > > Would you spend hours

> > > > to declare and prove that you are bigger than him,

> > > > And that you are the beholder of the truth?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > how droll!

> > >

> > > there are no 'wrong' answers if there are no things, people etc.

> > >

> > > your fascination with bigness, rightness and righteousness, what

> > >

> > > 'truth' is (good luck with that one pal), winners and losers, chance

> > >

> > > giving..on and on..ALL betray your proclivity for self deception

and

> > >

> > > misunderstandings.

> > >

> > > this evidently is not just an inclination towards silliness..

> > >

> > > it is your state in general.

> > >

> > > cheer up my son..

> > >

> > > baba is here to help and will stay on the case as long as

neccesary..

> > >

> > > or as long as it's so obvious how shallow and smarmy you are.

> > >

> > > this may well take a lifetime.

> > >

> > > this will of course make you happy.

> > >

> > > bobji knows that his small favors please small minds.

> > >

> > > he gives freely to all.

> > >

> > > of course much larger favors are afforded larger minds which

> > >

> > > comprehend his benevolence....

> > >

> > > unlike the small ones, like your's, which haven't the ability to

> > >

> > > understand the great gift of the baba's 'doings'.

> > >

> > > do not lose heart even though you've lost face.

> > >

> > > you will need a strong heart to compensate for the weak mind you

have.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > It seems unbelievable, but there are people they do exactly this.

> > > > They talk to a fly, to a shadow, to a fantasy, to themselves...

> > > > As if this is the most important thing in life.

> > > > Does this not sound a little familiar to you?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > why yes it does stevie..

> > >

> > > and no this does not sound unbelievable..

> > >

> > > nor is the opposite possibility...

> > >

> > > the fly talking to the obviously bigger and wiser figure..

> > >

> > > who looks at it.

> > >

> > > you are living breathing proof of the second case.

> > >

> > > these things are only seem 'unbelievable' or 'strange' to

> > >

> > > those with no imagination, creativity, wisdom, life experience,

> > >

> > > understanding..well i could go on but as one of these 'those' you

> most

> > >

> > > certainly can at least grasp this..the life you know....

> > >

> > > a life on the fly obviously.

> > >

> > > what ARE you running from child of misfortune?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > But now, there is the second chance:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > again with this 'second' or 'one more' chance?

> > >

> > > how germanic in nature!

> > >

> > > what comes after a your perception of a 'failed' second or

> > >

> > > 'unsuccessful' one more (chance)?

> > >

> > > a final solution?

> > >

> > > well..as you are in crete and i am not...

> > >

> > > i can say without paradox..

> > >

> > > ALL cretans are liars..

> > >

> > > and in your case..

> > >

> > > this one cretan is a cretin too.

> > >

> > > LOL!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Somebody has appeared

> > > > A name on a screen

> > > > Like a fly on a windowpane

> > > > What will you do?

> > > >

> > > > All the best

> > > > Stefan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > you don't have much of a repetoire do you little one?

> > >

> > > is your stage show as repetitive and boring?

> > >

> > > this may have contributed to your inability to ever score a 'hit'.

> > >

> > > well baba is here for you to cry and whine too.

> > >

> > > i hope it helps.

> > >

> > > and..excuse me....

> > >

> > > i must turn around...

> > >

> > > i'm beginning to giggle at you again.

> > >

> > > i know how this hurts you and pisses you off...

> > >

> > > but..

> > >

> > > it's for your own good my child.

> > >

> > > when you mature you will understand...

> > >

> > > than again...

> > >

> > > in your situation maybe you won't.

> > >

> > > at least 'that' is understanble to all of us here.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sincerely,

> > >

> > > :-)

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > But first, start by trying to

> > > > > > take things as they are!

> > > > > > For example: start with Stefan.

> > > > > > Somebody has appeared

> > > > > > A name on a screen

> > > > > > Like a fly on a windowpane

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What will you do?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > well stevie..i will Laugh Out Loud!

> > > > >

> > > > > stefan IS like a pest fly..on a windowpane as he himself

explains.

> > > > >

> > > > > oh god you're silly!

> > > > >

> > > > > get over yourself stevie.

> > > > >

> > > > > that's the FIRST thing YOU should give up.

> > > > >

> > > > > it must be a drag to live with that sorry self anyway.

> > > > >

> > > > > you have much to gain and NOTHING to lose..

> > > > >

> > > > > by losing that sorry, stupid, silly, sappy, smarmy, self.

> > > > >

> > > > > and EVERYTHING to be ashamed of one way or the other.

> > > > >

> > > > > why not blow out some new age music that goes nowhere.

> > > > >

> > > > > your intended audience of no one and nothing awaits.

> > > > >

> > > > > and steven..stefan..stev-a-rino...

> > > > >

> > > > > that's stuff smoked is not weird it's the BOMB!

> > > > >

> > > > > too bad about your luck.

> > > > >

> > > > > LOL!

> > > > >

> > > > > p.s.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > what the hell are you talking about re the great writer shit?

> > > > >

> > > > > i wouldn't bother actually writing something of worth for you.

> > > > >

> > > > > that would be such a waste.

> > > > >

> > > > > if that's what you think about the stuff i've exchanged here

> > with you

> > > > >

> > > > > well kid..you must have a ridiculous idea of what great

> writing is.

> > > > >

> > > > > what do you keep in your puny libraray?

> > > > >

> > > > > scandal sheets with lots of pictures?

> > > > >

> > > > > i'd say that was sad but truthfully i find it funny and fitting.

> > > > >

> > > > > now i'll sign off with a swifty..

> > > > >

> > > > > yours in laughter my little lilliputian,

> > > > >

> > > > > :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Hi Marc,

>

> good! you have observed this very well!

>

> :-)

> Stefan

 

 

tried to observe this Stefan bubble....means this whole of stefan-

concept...

 

sure....this stefan bubble is in relation to me......as long i give

attention to it...

 

so, time for some change of attention....

 

hereby my attention to the bubble stefan.....to whole he seem to be

attached too.....come to end.....

 

it just get boring to comunicate with entities who can't see

themSelf....

 

Marc

 

 

Ps: by the way.....you mentionned that pride is maybe a " deadly

sin " ....something....making joke of " pride " ....because i wrote a

message about boredom of proud ego-minds...

 

the mainly sins, i imagine, which exists.....are sins to oneSelf...

 

so....pride could be a sin to oneSelf....means real Self

 

and because the degree of this pride stefan bubble....he can't see

that b.b.b. has a heart that don't need any concepts and reflections

and mirrors and flies and exchange with funny ego-

minds....and ....and....and ..in order to stay a good heart

 

 

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

>

> > yes....you surely have always a Reason....for what you say....

> > even if you are talking to yourself....only.....

> >

> > yes...this your view (concept) is even true....

> >

> > ego minds talk to themself.....exclusivly....and only.....

> > due to the reflection of ignorance (ego)

> >

> > ego minds....therefore.....are just flies.....and great jokes....

> > and cause the whole of entertainment....for the ones they can't

> > understand....where they are.....and who they are , for real...

> >

> > so....the play go on....as long as you wish too....no

problem....lol

> >

> > but know, that the attention you imagine to get....

> > will disappear....just like the dream disappear....when you wake

up

> > from sleep in the morning

> >

> >

> > Marc

>

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Hi Marc!

 

Thank you for this posting. You have also a good heart!

 

All the best

Stefan

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Marc,

> >

> > good! you have observed this very well!

> >

> > :-)

> > Stefan

>

>

> tried to observe this Stefan bubble....means this whole of stefan-

> concept...

>

> sure....this stefan bubble is in relation to me......as long i give

> attention to it...

>

> so, time for some change of attention....

>

> hereby my attention to the bubble stefan.....to whole he seem to be

> attached too.....come to end.....

>

> it just get boring to comunicate with entities who can't see

> themSelf....

>

> Marc

>

>

> Ps: by the way.....you mentionned that pride is maybe a " deadly

> sin " ....something....making joke of " pride " ....because i wrote a

> message about boredom of proud ego-minds...

>

> the mainly sins, i imagine, which exists.....are sins to oneSelf...

>

> so....pride could be a sin to oneSelf....means real Self

>

> and because the degree of this pride stefan bubble....he can't see

> that b.b.b. has a heart that don't need any concepts and reflections

> and mirrors and flies and exchange with funny ego-

> minds....and ....and....and ..in order to stay a good heart

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Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Good morning Baba!

 

 

good morning stevie!

 

 

 

> Thank you for another long email!

 

 

 

no need for thanks.

 

baba helps all for free..even dimwits.

 

 

 

> I see, you are still trying to prove to the fly

> How superior Babas state is.

 

 

 

and i see how you still haven't been able to grasp the baba's doings.

 

no proofs of the obvious are required.

 

not for baba.

 

he sees what's what and you do not.

 

that's the sum total of the situation son.

 

er..excuse me mr. fly.

 

aren't you more of a gnat though?

 

flies would likely feel insulted if they could understand your words.

 

but of course they can't understand what you're saying..

 

anymore than you can understand the words of the baba.

 

such is life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> You are a true rebel!

> Highly dedicated to your inexhaustible fight

> Against the flies of this world!

 

 

 

fight!???

 

if this is a 'fight' to you..

 

you truly have been sheltered.

 

did they keep you in a closet in the bygone days of your youth?

 

were your keepers as ashamed of you as you are of yourself?

 

well this is very understandable.

 

but again..your mama wasn't a fly son.

 

though you have retained some of your maggot like beginnings..

 

those were gnats that laid you in fecal matter..not flies.

 

this is why you are even more pest like than flies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> But a fly has a simple mind,

> It cannot understand why somebody

> Who does not believe in " levels "

> Goes on and on defending his " level " .

 

 

 

you are really caught up on this 'defense' thing aren't you?

 

and you like the idea that you are in some sort of 'fight'.

 

well like that nation of your forbears..

 

you want to feel superior while all along feeling inferior.

 

thus the lust for 'fighting'..

 

and the perception of others needing to 'defend' themselves from you.

 

and just like your ancestral losers..you too will lose.

 

ah the glories of de faderland huh?

 

und they were vunderfull losers too.

 

but baba bets you look quite spiffy in your make believe wehrmacht

 

uniform whilst typing on the keyboard.

 

do you enjoy marching in step with other glorious gnats?

 

i'm sure our little stefie does.

 

quite cute little child!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Go, go, young rebel!

> But you have to sharpen your sword better

> To be able to catch the little fly

> That is humming around in your head.

 

 

 

no, no, old fart!

 

it really wouldn't take much to catch and defeat a gnat like you.

 

that's what your leaders thought too.

 

see where that got you and your nation..TWO times?

 

baba knows you don't have the ability to understand..

 

when or why you've been conquered...

 

even in total loss of face and nation.

 

god that's funny!

 

 

 

> Best wishes!

> Stefan

 

 

 

good losing!

 

..b b.b.

 

 

 

 

 

**************************NNB*****************************************

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Wow, this is amazing!

> > > Every time I open the Nisargadatta group page

> > > I find another message from Big Baba!!!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > no it's not amazing.

> >

> > what's amazing is how such unimportant and small things so easily

> >

> > amaze simpletons like yourself.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > So, now comes your 5 minutes!

> > >

> > > This issue of writing good / writing bad

> > > Why is this of so much importance to you?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > stefan! YOU are the one that is making a big deal out of the writing.

> >

> > not the baba.

> >

> > baba is just laughing at you.

> >

> > try and get a grip kid.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > If I recall correctly, this is your third posting

> > > You spend defending your writing style

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > no stefie.... baba isn't defending it.

> >

> > he has said (three times now) that he isn't going to defend his

> >

> > writing.

> >

> > that he intentionally doesn't even bother with trying to be anything

> >

> > but simple... and sweet... and dumbed down in his exchanges with

> >

> > yourself...

> >

> > baba has to be..

> >

> > essentially so that you could understand.

> >

> > i guess it's a reading comprehension problem with you.

> >

> > you just are incapable of understanding even this elementary style.

> >

> > this is pitiable but funny too.

> >

> > you just can't get it.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Did I not tell you to relax???

> > > <smile>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > baba doesn't give the slightest consideration to fools' advise.

> >

> > in particular when it suggests doing what is already being

> >

> > done...feeling how one already feels...relaxing when one already is

> >

> > relaxed.

> >

> > you're just plain silly stevie.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Now I will phrase that question differently,

> > > So that you have a better chance to follow

> > > And maybe find a relaxed answer:

> > >

> > > When you find a fly on your windowpane

> > > (maybe named magicsteve <hint><hint>)

> > > What will you do?

> > > Will you write long emails to the fly

> > > Elaborating how ugly it appears on your window

> > > How it disturbs your great view onto Big Baba Valley

> > > And how small, dirty and stupid it is?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ROFLMAO!

> >

> > you are a persistent pest steve-a-rino.

> >

> > but damn you're good for a chuckle or two.

> >

> > again with this stupid fly on the windowpane?

> >

> > don't you have any creativity or imagination?

> >

> > well it's very evident that you don't.

> >

> > i shouldn't ask..you obviously refuse to answer..

> >

> > the answer would be (if truthful) very shameful for you.

> >

> > but as explained before (and misunderstood by you)..

> >

> > don't worry about feeling dull and ashamed..

> >

> > you've earned the right to feel that way...

> >

> > and continue to earn that right..right here.

> >

> > reread that mishmash paragraph of yours above..

> >

> > and if you aren't ashamed of it's lack of contextual sense..

> >

> > you should be even more ashamed than you already are.

> >

> > it's like picking fly shit out of pepper..

> >

> > stupid, nonsensical, ridiculous, and so stefan like.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Is it this what you would do?

> > > Are there not more appropriate solutions?

> > > Come on, I am sure you know better, my friend :-)

> > >

> > > Stefan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > you ARE german aren't you?

> >

> > always looking for de slushionz..

> >

> > und de final solushionz shall be a master stroke.

> >

> > do you also enjoy dressing up in uniforms und gooshtepping in a nice

> >

> > march?

> >

> > i'm sure you know better...

> >

> > but following orders is more to your liking yes?

> >

> > 'solution'...you've got to be kidding kiddo.

> >

> > there is no problem from the first.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > P.S. You have written:

> > > " baba absoulutely does NOT believe in 'levels' of anything "

> > > (note: ab-SOUL-utely, how beautiful!)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > you like that eh?

> >

> > baba knew you would.

> >

> > baba knows all.

> >

> > just another small favor for a small mind.

> >

> > i'm big on that.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > This is certainly the statement of a belief.

> > > Along with countless other beliefs

> > > That you are stating here.

> > > But what is the problem?

> > > Why are you declaring that Baba has no beliefs?

> > > I did not blame you for your beliefs...

> > > Who did?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > YOU did.

> >

> > before..... and right here above:

> >

> > " This certainly the statement of a belief. Along with countless other

> > beliefs. "

> >

> > and this is not blaming me of having or holding beliefs?

> >

> > gee stevie you don't even understand or 'get'...

> >

> > what you yourself write or say.

> >

> > your mental defects are much larger than even baba had seen.

> >

> > this is your problem.

> >

> > see how nice bobji is?

> >

> > you've asked what the problem was and he's spelled it out for you..

> >

> > hopefully in small and simple enough terms that you possibly could

> >

> > understand...

> >

> > but baba isn't very hopeful on that after this stupid display of yours

> >

> > wherein you don't even understand what what you're saying.

> >

> > but master .b b.b. will not forsake a poor unfortunate like you.

> >

> > he will laugh at you but he will stick with his promise and put out

> >

> > his strong shoulder for your continued pathetic whimpers.

> >

> > and you're welcome for the twenty seconds i've afforded you here.

> >

> > did that nonsense really take you five minutes?

> >

> > well..you're slow in many ways i guess.

> >

> > is that schmaltzy new age crap of yours done largo like?

> >

> > most likely in slow tempo from a slow mind.

> >

> > good for sleeping like cool evenings and dull books.

> >

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > no..it's you who doesn't think.

> > > >

> > > > likely why you seek clarifications and psychological help.

> > > >

> > > > you only have five minutes free from therapy stefie?

> > > >

> > > > i can see your shame but it makes me laugh.

> > > >

> > > > LOL!

> > > >

> > > > and as for my quick notes to you..i've said i wouldn't bother

with

> > > >

> > > > good OR great writing.

> > > >

> > > > as said, that would be a waste given your shortcomings.

> > > >

> > > > obviously with your inability to understand what is written...

> > > >

> > > > coupled with your horrific style, prose and general non

sequiturs...

> > > >

> > > > as displayed in your attempts at communicating in what is

obviosly

> > > >

> > > > not your native tongue...

> > > >

> > > > you need some study and discipline.

> > > >

> > > > from this exchange herr von stefan...i can see you like

discipline.

> > > >

> > > > and also as stated before..baba never feels embarassed like

> yourself.

> > > >

> > > > this merely projection on your part due to your own personal

shame..

> > > >

> > > > and that's quite rightfully placed so don't feel guilty.

> > > >

> > > > you deserve to feel shamed..

> > > >

> > > > you've earned this right to feel inferior and inadequate.

> > > >

> > > > go for it.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Yes, we can go on to exchange messages,

> > > > > But I have to inform you about something

> > > > > That you are obviously not aware off:

> > > > > You are only talking to yourself!

> > > > > All those your hopes:

> > > > > To safe your face, to defend your beliefs,

> > > > > to prove your mastership, to be the " winner " :

> > > > > Ar in vain.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 'to 'safe' face'?

> > > >

> > > > 'Ar' in vain'?

> > > >

> > > > is this an example of your exemplary writing.

> > > >

> > > > oh stevie you have a long road ahead in seeing your true

condition.

> > > >

> > > > and once again guy..i must remind you it would seem..

> > > >

> > > > baba has NO beliefs.

> > > >

> > > > said MANY times stevie..

> > > >

> > > > i had thought before that you just had misread baba's love notes.

> > > >

> > > > now here once again i see that it's just an inability to 'get' or

> > > >

> > > > understand what has been written on your part.

> > > >

> > > > again this is sort of sad but damn funny too.

> > > >

> > > > ha ha ha ha!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > The last time I have asked you a question,

> > > > > And you have given the wrong answers.

> > > > > But I am giving your one more chance.

> > > > > Just see the picture in front of you:

> > > > > A fly appears on your windowpane.

> > > > > Would you spend hours

> > > > > to declare and prove that you are bigger than him,

> > > > > And that you are the beholder of the truth?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > how droll!

> > > >

> > > > there are no 'wrong' answers if there are no things, people etc.

> > > >

> > > > your fascination with bigness, rightness and righteousness, what

> > > >

> > > > 'truth' is (good luck with that one pal), winners and losers,

chance

> > > >

> > > > giving..on and on..ALL betray your proclivity for self deception

> and

> > > >

> > > > misunderstandings.

> > > >

> > > > this evidently is not just an inclination towards silliness..

> > > >

> > > > it is your state in general.

> > > >

> > > > cheer up my son..

> > > >

> > > > baba is here to help and will stay on the case as long as

> neccesary..

> > > >

> > > > or as long as it's so obvious how shallow and smarmy you are.

> > > >

> > > > this may well take a lifetime.

> > > >

> > > > this will of course make you happy.

> > > >

> > > > bobji knows that his small favors please small minds.

> > > >

> > > > he gives freely to all.

> > > >

> > > > of course much larger favors are afforded larger minds which

> > > >

> > > > comprehend his benevolence....

> > > >

> > > > unlike the small ones, like your's, which haven't the ability to

> > > >

> > > > understand the great gift of the baba's 'doings'.

> > > >

> > > > do not lose heart even though you've lost face.

> > > >

> > > > you will need a strong heart to compensate for the weak mind you

> have.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > It seems unbelievable, but there are people they do exactly

this.

> > > > > They talk to a fly, to a shadow, to a fantasy, to themselves...

> > > > > As if this is the most important thing in life.

> > > > > Does this not sound a little familiar to you?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > why yes it does stevie..

> > > >

> > > > and no this does not sound unbelievable..

> > > >

> > > > nor is the opposite possibility...

> > > >

> > > > the fly talking to the obviously bigger and wiser figure..

> > > >

> > > > who looks at it.

> > > >

> > > > you are living breathing proof of the second case.

> > > >

> > > > these things are only seem 'unbelievable' or 'strange' to

> > > >

> > > > those with no imagination, creativity, wisdom, life experience,

> > > >

> > > > understanding..well i could go on but as one of these 'those' you

> > most

> > > >

> > > > certainly can at least grasp this..the life you know....

> > > >

> > > > a life on the fly obviously.

> > > >

> > > > what ARE you running from child of misfortune?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > But now, there is the second chance:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > again with this 'second' or 'one more' chance?

> > > >

> > > > how germanic in nature!

> > > >

> > > > what comes after a your perception of a 'failed' second or

> > > >

> > > > 'unsuccessful' one more (chance)?

> > > >

> > > > a final solution?

> > > >

> > > > well..as you are in crete and i am not...

> > > >

> > > > i can say without paradox..

> > > >

> > > > ALL cretans are liars..

> > > >

> > > > and in your case..

> > > >

> > > > this one cretan is a cretin too.

> > > >

> > > > LOL!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Somebody has appeared

> > > > > A name on a screen

> > > > > Like a fly on a windowpane

> > > > > What will you do?

> > > > >

> > > > > All the best

> > > > > Stefan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > you don't have much of a repetoire do you little one?

> > > >

> > > > is your stage show as repetitive and boring?

> > > >

> > > > this may have contributed to your inability to ever score a 'hit'.

> > > >

> > > > well baba is here for you to cry and whine too.

> > > >

> > > > i hope it helps.

> > > >

> > > > and..excuse me....

> > > >

> > > > i must turn around...

> > > >

> > > > i'm beginning to giggle at you again.

> > > >

> > > > i know how this hurts you and pisses you off...

> > > >

> > > > but..

> > > >

> > > > it's for your own good my child.

> > > >

> > > > when you mature you will understand...

> > > >

> > > > than again...

> > > >

> > > > in your situation maybe you won't.

> > > >

> > > > at least 'that' is understanble to all of us here.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > :-)

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > > But first, start by trying to

> > > > > > > take things as they are!

> > > > > > > For example: start with Stefan.

> > > > > > > Somebody has appeared

> > > > > > > A name on a screen

> > > > > > > Like a fly on a windowpane

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What will you do?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > well stevie..i will Laugh Out Loud!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > stefan IS like a pest fly..on a windowpane as he himself

> explains.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > oh god you're silly!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > get over yourself stevie.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > that's the FIRST thing YOU should give up.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it must be a drag to live with that sorry self anyway.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you have much to gain and NOTHING to lose..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > by losing that sorry, stupid, silly, sappy, smarmy, self.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and EVERYTHING to be ashamed of one way or the other.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > why not blow out some new age music that goes nowhere.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > your intended audience of no one and nothing awaits.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and steven..stefan..stev-a-rino...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > that's stuff smoked is not weird it's the BOMB!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > too bad about your luck.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > LOL!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > p.s.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what the hell are you talking about re the great writer shit?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i wouldn't bother actually writing something of worth for you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > that would be such a waste.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if that's what you think about the stuff i've exchanged here

> > > with you

> > > > > >

> > > > > > well kid..you must have a ridiculous idea of what great

> > writing is.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what do you keep in your puny libraray?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > scandal sheets with lots of pictures?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i'd say that was sad but truthfully i find it funny and

fitting.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > now i'll sign off with a swifty..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > yours in laughter my little lilliputian,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hello Bob,

 

I guess I have to let you know

that I am not interested to " grasp Babas doings " .

 

I am reading and answering your postings

and this is all I can do for you,

I hope you will understand this.

 

I can say without doubt that it is evident

that your postings are mainly dealing

with the defense of your personal beliefs,

positions and opinions, where (as you clearly say)

" winning " is your main concern.

 

I would like to let you know

that there is no reason at all to do so,

because I find you perfectly o.k. as you are

and I am not attacking you for anything

(And I never did)

 

Don Quichotte fighting against wind mills

Bob trying to argue with a fly on his window...

those are only metaphors to demonstrate

How I feel about your emotional outflows.

 

I am aware that I am repeating myself

but on the other hand your postings as well

contain the same statements over and over.

 

Still, I do not have any problem

to contribute my daily 5 minutes.

Try to read my answers to your postings

not as attacks

not as an attempt to win a battle

and you will come closer to an understanding

of my friendly intentions.

 

So if you wish, please continue.

 

All the best

Stefan

 

Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote:

> >

> > Good morning Baba!

>

>

> good morning stevie!

>

>

>

> > Thank you for another long email!

>

>

>

> no need for thanks.

>

> baba helps all for free..even dimwits.

>

>

>

> > I see, you are still trying to prove to the fly

> > How superior Babas state is.

>

>

>

> and i see how you still haven't been able to grasp the baba's doings.

>

> no proofs of the obvious are required.

>

> not for baba.

>

> he sees what's what and you do not.

>

> that's the sum total of the situation son.

>

> er..excuse me mr. fly.

>

> aren't you more of a gnat though?

>

> flies would likely feel insulted if they could understand your words.

>

> but of course they can't understand what you're saying..

>

> anymore than you can understand the words of the baba.

>

> such is life.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You are a true rebel!

> > Highly dedicated to your inexhaustible fight

> > Against the flies of this world!

>

>

>

> fight!???

>

> if this is a 'fight' to you..

>

> you truly have been sheltered.

>

> did they keep you in a closet in the bygone days of your youth?

>

> were your keepers as ashamed of you as you are of yourself?

>

> well this is very understandable.

>

> but again..your mama wasn't a fly son.

>

> though you have retained some of your maggot like beginnings..

>

> those were gnats that laid you in fecal matter..not flies.

>

> this is why you are even more pest like than flies.

>

>

>

>

>

> But a fly has a simple mind,

> > It cannot understand why somebody

> > Who does not believe in " levels "

> > Goes on and on defending his " level " .

>

>

>

> you are really caught up on this 'defense' thing aren't you?

>

> and you like the idea that you are in some sort of 'fight'.

>

> well like that nation of your forbears..

>

> you want to feel superior while all along feeling inferior.

>

> thus the lust for 'fighting'..

>

> and the perception of others needing to 'defend' themselves from you.

>

> and just like your ancestral losers..you too will lose.

>

> ah the glories of de faderland huh?

>

> und they were vunderfull losers too.

>

> but baba bets you look quite spiffy in your make believe wehrmacht

>

> uniform whilst typing on the keyboard.

>

> do you enjoy marching in step with other glorious gnats?

>

> i'm sure our little stefie does.

>

> quite cute little child!

>

>

> Go, go, young rebel!

> > But you have to sharpen your sword better

> > To be able to catch the little fly

> > That is humming around in your head.

>

>

>

> no, no, old fart!

>

> it really wouldn't take much to catch and defeat a gnat like you.

>

> that's what your leaders thought too.

>

> see where that got you and your nation..TWO times?

>

> baba knows you don't have the ability to understand..

>

> when or why you've been conquered...

>

> even in total loss of face and nation.

>

> god that's funny!

>

>

>

> > Best wishes!

> > Stefan

>

>

>

> good losing!

>

> .b b.b.

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