Guest guest Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 the Problem: Why are you unhappy? Because 99.9 per cent Of everything you think, And of everything you do, Is for yourself — And there isn't one. ~ Wei Wu Wei the Solution: Don't make all 99.9 per cent Of everything you think, and of everything you do, for 'yourself'. Be little More Open and little More Inclusive. Keep thoughts about 'yourself' to only .1% of all thoughts - " my " enlightenemnt, " my " happiness, " my " success, " my " salvation - forget it SEE how is it to think without thinking for 'yourself', SEE how it is to act without doing it for 'yourself' ---- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Wu_Wei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 [...] > the Problem: > > Why are you unhappy? > > Because 99.9 per cent > Of everything you think, > And of everything you do, > Is for yourself — > And there isn't one. > > ~ Wei Wu Wei > > > the Solution: > > Don't make all 99.9 per cent > Of everything you think, > and of everything you do, > for 'yourself'. > > > Be little More Open and > little More Inclusive. > Keep thoughts about 'yourself' > to only .1% of all thoughts - > " my " enlightenemnt, " my " > happiness, " my " success, > " my " salvation - forget it > > > SEE how is it to think without > thinking for 'yourself', > SEE how it is to act without > doing it for 'yourself' > And, not doing it for 'yourself' doesn't mean doing it for... 'other' 'Other' is as empty as 'i' SEE What is Left when You: ..... think without thinking for 'yourself' and without thinking for... 'other'. ..... Act without doing it for 'yourself' and without doing it for... 'other'. What is Left??? > > ---- > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Wu_Wei > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [...] > > > the Problem: > > > > Why are you unhappy? > > > > Because 99.9 per cent > > Of everything you think, > > And of everything you do, > > Is for yourself — > > And there isn't one. > > > > ~ Wei Wu Wei > > > > > > the Solution: > > > > Don't make all 99.9 per cent > > Of everything you think, > > and of everything you do, > > for 'yourself'. > > > > > > Be little More Open and > > little More Inclusive. > > Keep thoughts about 'yourself' > > to only .1% of all thoughts - > > " my " enlightenemnt, " my " > > happiness, " my " success, > > " my " salvation - forget it > > > > > > SEE how is it to think without > > thinking for 'yourself', > > SEE how it is to act without > > doing it for 'yourself' > > > > > And, not doing it for 'yourself' > doesn't mean doing it for... 'other' > > 'Other' is as empty as 'i' > > > SEE What is Left when You: > > .... think without thinking for > 'yourself' and without thinking for... 'other'. > > .... Act without doing it for > 'yourself' and without doing it for... 'other'. > > > > > What is Left??? > Hi AC, What you wrote above is just a mind game, juggling with ideas you have read somewhere. Which is ok as long as you are just fiddling with them. But besides keeping th mind occupied all those ideas are of no use. Btw, since longer I am a fan of Wei Wu Wei. Especially I like his book 'Open Secret' which is, as you might know, not an easy read. But let me ask you is your mind really quiet without any thought or do you just endlessly playing with that hypothesis " If there would be no thought then ... " which is just like a belly full of gas blowing its heavy load onto a forum like this here ? Werner > > > > > > ---- > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Wu_Wei > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > the Problem: > > > > > > Why are you unhappy? > > > > > > Because 99.9 per cent > > > Of everything you think, > > > And of everything you do, > > > Is for yourself — > > > And there isn't one. > > > > > > ~ Wei Wu Wei > > > > > > > > > the Solution: > > > > > > Don't make all 99.9 per cent > > > Of everything you think, > > > and of everything you do, > > > for 'yourself'. > > > > > > > > > Be little More Open and > > > little More Inclusive. > > > Keep thoughts about 'yourself' > > > to only .1% of all thoughts - > > > " my " enlightenemnt, " my " > > > happiness, " my " success, > > > " my " salvation - forget it > > > > > > > > > SEE how is it to think without > > > thinking for 'yourself', > > > SEE how it is to act without > > > doing it for 'yourself' > > > > > > > > > And, not doing it for 'yourself' > > doesn't mean doing it for... 'other' > > > > 'Other' is as empty as 'i' > > > > > > SEE What is Left when You: > > > > .... think without thinking for > > 'yourself' and without thinking for... 'other'. > > > > .... Act without doing it for > > 'yourself' and without doing it for... 'other'. > > > > > > > > > > What is Left??? > > > > > Hi AC, > > What you wrote above is just a mind game, Oh... yeah ?;) And, do you have a problem with it ?;) > juggling with ideas you > have read somewhere. Oh... yeah ?;) And, doing that is very " bad " ... isn't it ?;) > Which is ok as long as you are just fiddling > with them. And, when is that 'not ok'... dear W ?;) > But besides keeping th mind occupied > all those ideas are of no use. > > Btw, since long I am a fan of Wei Wu Wei. Ok. > Especially I like his > book 'Open Secret' which is, > as you might know, not an easy read. No, I didn't know that. > > But let me ask you is your mind really > quiet without any thought Yes, sometimes it is And, sometimes it is bubbling with love and laughter Sometimes it is bubbling with happiness and joy Sometimes, I might get little worried And, sometimes, I might think, X is a real bitch Is that OK with you, Werner ?;) > or > do you just endlessly playing with > that hypothesis " If there would be > no thought then ... " which is just like > a belly full of gas blowing > its heavy load onto a forum like this here ? What you wrote above looks... 'too stupid', Werner But, who am I to say that you can't act stupid ?;) Take your leek > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Wu_Wei > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > the Problem: > > > > > > > > Why are you unhappy? > > > > > > > > Because 99.9 per cent > > > > Of everything you think, > > > > And of everything you do, > > > > Is for yourself — > > > > And there isn't one. > > > > > > > > ~ Wei Wu Wei > > > > > > > > > > > > the Solution: > > > > > > > > Don't make all 99.9 per cent > > > > Of everything you think, > > > > and of everything you do, > > > > for 'yourself'. > > > > > > > > > > > > Be little More Open and > > > > little More Inclusive. > > > > Keep thoughts about 'yourself' > > > > to only .1% of all thoughts - > > > > " my " enlightenemnt, " my " > > > > happiness, " my " success, > > > > " my " salvation - forget it > > > > > > > > > > > > SEE how is it to think without > > > > thinking for 'yourself', > > > > SEE how it is to act without > > > > doing it for 'yourself' > > > > > > > > > > > > > And, not doing it for 'yourself' > > > doesn't mean doing it for... 'other' > > > > > > 'Other' is as empty as 'i' > > > > > > > > > SEE What is Left when You: > > > > > > .... think without thinking for > > > 'yourself' and without thinking for... 'other'. > > > > > > .... Act without doing it for > > > 'yourself' and without doing it for... 'other'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is Left??? > > > > > > > > > Hi AC, > > > > What you wrote above is just a mind game, > > Oh... yeah ?;) > > And, do you have a problem with it ?;) > > > > juggling with ideas you > > have read somewhere. > > Oh... yeah ?;) > > And, doing that is very " bad " ... isn't it ?;) > > > > Which is ok as long as you are just fiddling > > with them. > > And, when is that 'not ok'... dear W ?;) > > > > > But besides keeping th mind occupied > > all those ideas are of no use. > > > > Btw, since long I am a fan of Wei Wu Wei. > > Ok. > > > Especially I like his > > book 'Open Secret' which is, > > as you might know, not an easy read. > > No, I didn't know that. > > > > > > But let me ask you is your mind really > > quiet without any thought > > Yes, sometimes it is > > And, sometimes it is bubbling with love and laughter > > Sometimes it is bubbling with happiness and joy > > Sometimes, I might get little worried > > And, sometimes, I might think, X is a real bitch > > Is that OK with you, Werner ?;) > > > > or > > do you just endlessly playing with > > that hypothesis " If there would be > > no thought then ... " which is just like > > a belly full of gas blowing > > its heavy load onto a forum like this here ? > > What you wrote above looks... 'too stupid', Werner > > But, who am I to say that you can't act stupid ?;) > > Take your leek > Werner > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Wu_Wei > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 But my dear Arvind, just try to look at all this with different eyes, just once. The problem: " why are you unhappy? " Your solution: do not think for " yourself " . But this is not possible, because the purpose is ones own happiness the motivation is 100% for himself and all thinking will be 100% for himself There is a better solution and Wei Wu Wei has already included it in his statement: >Why are you unhappy? >Because 99.9 per cent >Of everything you think, >And of everything you do, >Is for yourself — >And there isn't one. " there isn't one " ! There is no " yourself " to become happy, and one can think all kind of percentage for or against " oneself " ... it makes no difference because: there isn't one. This is the solution. Greetings Stefan Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > the Problem: > > Why are you unhappy? > > Because 99.9 per cent > Of everything you think, > And of everything you do, > Is for yourself — > And there isn't one. > > ~ Wei Wu Wei > > > the Solution: > > Don't make all 99.9 per cent > Of everything you think, > and of everything you do, > for 'yourself'. > > > Be little More Open and > little More Inclusive. > Keep thoughts about 'yourself' > to only .1% of all thoughts - > " my " enlightenemnt, " my " > happiness, " my " success, > " my " salvation - forget it > > > SEE how is it to think without > thinking for 'yourself', > SEE how it is to act without > doing it for 'yourself' > > > ---- > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Wu_Wei > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote: > > But my dear Arvind, > > just try to look at all this > with different eyes, just once. > > The problem: > " why are you unhappy? " > Your solution: > do not think for " yourself " . > > But this is not possible, > because the purpose is > ones own happiness > the motivation is 100% for himself > and all thinking will be 100% for himself > > There is a better solution > and Wei Wu Wei has already included it > in his statement: > > >Why are you unhappy? > >Because 99.9 per cent > >Of everything you think, > >And of everything you do, > >Is for yourself — > >And there isn't one. > > " there isn't one " ! > There is no " yourself " to become happy, > and one can think all kind of percentage > for or against " oneself " ... > it makes no difference because: > there isn't one. > > This is the solution. > > Greetings > Stefan my goodness some are big on 'solutions'. from the first there is no 'problem'! ..b b.b. *****************************NNB************************************** > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > the Problem: > > > > Why are you unhappy? > > > > Because 99.9 per cent > > Of everything you think, > > And of everything you do, > > Is for yourself — > > And there isn't one. > > > > ~ Wei Wu Wei > > > > > > the Solution: > > > > Don't make all 99.9 per cent > > Of everything you think, > > and of everything you do, > > for 'yourself'. > > > > > > Be little More Open and > > little More Inclusive. > > Keep thoughts about 'yourself' > > to only .1% of all thoughts - > > " my " enlightenemnt, " my " > > happiness, " my " success, > > " my " salvation - forget it > > > > > > SEE how is it to think without > > thinking for 'yourself', > > SEE how it is to act without > > doing it for 'yourself' > > > > > > ---- > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Wu_Wei > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote: > > > > But my dear Arvind, > > > > just try to look at all this > > with different eyes, just once. > > > > The problem: > > " why are you unhappy? " > > Your solution: > > do not think for " yourself " . > > > > But this is not possible, > > because the purpose is > > ones own happiness > > the motivation is 100% for himself > > and all thinking will be 100% for himself > > > > There is a better solution > > and Wei Wu Wei has already included it > > in his statement: > > > > >Why are you unhappy? > > >Because 99.9 per cent > > >Of everything you think, > > >And of everything you do, > > >Is for yourself — > > >And there isn't one. > > > > " there isn't one " ! > > There is no " yourself " to become happy, > > and one can think all kind of percentage > > for or against " oneself " ... > > it makes no difference because: > > there isn't one. > > > > This is the solution. > > > > Greetings > > Stefan > > > > my goodness some are big on 'solutions'. > > > from the first there is no 'problem'! > > > .b b.b. LOL > > *****************************NNB************************************** > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > the Problem: > > > > > > Why are you unhappy? > > > > > > Because 99.9 per cent > > > Of everything you think, > > > And of everything you do, > > > Is for yourself — > > > And there isn't one. > > > > > > ~ Wei Wu Wei > > > > > > > > > the Solution: > > > > > > Don't make all 99.9 per cent > > > Of everything you think, > > > and of everything you do, > > > for 'yourself'. > > > > > > > > > Be little More Open and > > > little More Inclusive. > > > Keep thoughts about 'yourself' > > > to only .1% of all thoughts - > > > " my " enlightenemnt, " my " > > > happiness, " my " success, > > > " my " salvation - forget it > > > > > > > > > SEE how is it to think without > > > thinking for 'yourself', > > > SEE how it is to act without > > > doing it for 'yourself' > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Wu_Wei > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote: > > But my dear Arvind, > > just try to look at all this > with different eyes, just once. > > The problem: > " why are you unhappy? " > Your solution: > do not think for " yourself " . > > But this is not possible, > because the purpose is > ones own happiness > the motivation is 100% for himself > and all thinking will be 100% for himself > > There is a better solution > and Wei Wu Wei has already included it > in his statement: > > >Why are you unhappy? > >Because 99.9 per cent > >Of everything you think, > >And of everything you do, > >Is for yourself — > >And there isn't one. > > " there isn't one " ! > There is no " yourself " to become happy, > and one can think all kind of percentage > for or against " oneself " ... > it makes no difference because: > there isn't one. > > This is the solution. No... Stefan, I don't think so. There isn't 'one' and, also, there is ONE. That's the riddle, isn't it ?;) > > Greetings > Stefan > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > the Problem: > > > > Why are you unhappy? > > > > Because 99.9 per cent > > Of everything you think, > > And of everything you do, > > Is for yourself — > > And there isn't one. > > > > ~ Wei Wu Wei > > > > > > the Solution: > > > > Don't make all 99.9 per cent > > Of everything you think, > > and of everything you do, > > for 'yourself'. > > > > > > Be little More Open and > > little More Inclusive. > > Keep thoughts about 'yourself' > > to only .1% of all thoughts - > > " my " enlightenemnt, " my " > > happiness, " my " success, > > " my " salvation - forget it > > > > > > SEE how is it to think without > > thinking for 'yourself', > > SEE how it is to act without > > doing it for 'yourself' > > > > > > ---- > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Wu_Wei > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Arvind, if there is nobody then there is no problem so there is no need for a solution this is not a riddle this is just this plain simple Namaste Stefan Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> > wrote: > > > > But my dear Arvind, > > > > just try to look at all this > > with different eyes, just once. > > > > The problem: > > " why are you unhappy? " > > Your solution: > > do not think for " yourself " . > > > > But this is not possible, > > because the purpose is > > ones own happiness > > the motivation is 100% for himself > > and all thinking will be 100% for himself > > > > There is a better solution > > and Wei Wu Wei has already included it > > in his statement: > > > > >Why are you unhappy? > > >Because 99.9 per cent > > >Of everything you think, > > >And of everything you do, > > >Is for yourself — > > >And there isn't one. > > > > " there isn't one " ! > > There is no " yourself " to become happy, > > and one can think all kind of percentage > > for or against " oneself " ... > > it makes no difference because: > > there isn't one. > > > > This is the solution. > > No... Stefan, I don't think so. > > > There isn't 'one' > > and, also, there is ONE. > > > That's the riddle, isn't it ?;) > > > > > > > Greetings > > Stefan > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > the Problem: > > > > > > Why are you unhappy? > > > > > > Because 99.9 per cent > > > Of everything you think, > > > And of everything you do, > > > Is for yourself — > > > And there isn't one. > > > > > > ~ Wei Wu Wei > > > > > > > > > the Solution: > > > > > > Don't make all 99.9 per cent > > > Of everything you think, > > > and of everything you do, > > > for 'yourself'. > > > > > > > > > Be little More Open and > > > little More Inclusive. > > > Keep thoughts about 'yourself' > > > to only .1% of all thoughts - > > > " my " enlightenemnt, " my " > > > happiness, " my " success, > > > " my " salvation - forget it > > > > > > > > > SEE how is it to think without > > > thinking for 'yourself', > > > SEE how it is to act without > > > doing it for 'yourself' > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Wu_Wei > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote: > > Arvind, > > if there is nobody > then there is no problem > so there is no need for a solution > > this is not a riddle > this is just this plain simple > > Namaste > Stefan Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:53 pm : " it makes no difference because: there isn't one. 'This is the solution'. (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Greetings Stefan " Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:05 am yep...plain simple minded. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Hi Babaji, back from silence? I knew irony is beyond your capacity. Just as your ability to read statements in correlation with the thread. (Hint: the subject " The Solution " was from Arvind, not from me). The solution: go back to kindergarden :-)) Stefan Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote: > > > > Arvind, > > > > if there is nobody > > then there is no problem > > so there is no need for a solution > > > > this is not a riddle > > this is just this plain simple > > > > Namaste > > Stefan > > Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:53 pm > > > : > > > " it makes no difference because: > there isn't one. > > 'This is the solution'. (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) > > Greetings > Stefan " > > Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:05 am > > > > > yep...plain simple minded. > > .b b.b. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote: > > Arvind, > > if there is nobody Yes... in the mind of 'somebody' > then there is no problem Yes... in the mind of 'somebody' > so there is no need for a solution Yes... in the mind of 'somebody' > > this is not a riddle > this is just this plain simple Yes... in the mind of 'somebody' > > Namaste > Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 True, Arvind! I said " if " ... " then " ... and logical conclusions are certainly of the mind. But why do you emphasize mind of " somebody " ? Is there also something like the mind of " nobody " ? Stefan Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> > wrote: > > > > Arvind, > > > > if there is nobody > > Yes... in the mind of 'somebody' > > > > then there is no problem > > Yes... in the mind of 'somebody' > > > so there is no need for a solution > > Yes... in the mind of 'somebody' > > > > > this is not a riddle > > this is just this plain simple > > Yes... in the mind of 'somebody' > > > > > > Namaste > > Stefan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote: > > True, Arvind! > > I said " if " ... " then " ... > and logical conclusions are certainly of the mind. > > But why do you emphasize mind of " somebody " ? > Is there also something like the mind of " nobody " ? I am just saying that one who knows there is 'nobody' is already a 'somebody'. Neither ' 'I' am' nor ' 'I' am not' are completely true. 'i' am and also, 'i' am not. or, 'I' neither am nor I am not. > > Stefan > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Arvind, > > > > > > if there is nobody > > > > Yes... in the mind of 'somebody' > > > > > > > then there is no problem > > > > Yes... in the mind of 'somebody' > > > > > so there is no need for a solution > > > > Yes... in the mind of 'somebody' > > > > > > > > this is not a riddle > > > this is just this plain simple > > > > Yes... in the mind of 'somebody' > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > Stefan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote: > > Hi Babaji, > > back from silence? > I knew irony is beyond your capacity. > Just as your ability to read statements in correlation with the thread. > (Hint: the subject " The Solution " was from Arvind, not from me). > > The solution: > go back to kindergarden > > :-)) > > Stefan who wrote: " This is the solution. " stefan did. is there anything besides air in your head? well that keeps it simple for you then. LOL! ..b b.b. > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote: > > > > > > Arvind, > > > > > > if there is nobody > > > then there is no problem > > > so there is no need for a solution > > > > > > this is not a riddle > > > this is just this plain simple > > > > > > Namaste > > > Stefan > > > > Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:53 pm > > > > > > : > > > > > > " it makes no difference because: > > there isn't one. > > > > 'This is the solution'. (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) > > > > Greetings > > Stefan " > > > > Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:05 am > > > > > > > > > > yep...plain simple minded. > > > > .b b.b. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: >I am just saying that >one who knows there is 'nobody' is already a 'somebody'. >Neither ' 'I' am' nor >' 'I' am not' are completely true. >'i' am and also, 'i' am not. >or, 'I' neither am nor I am not. A good observation, and all I have said was: " If there is nobody, then there is no problem " . I say this because problems arise to " somebody " . To be somebody is itself the root of all problems. In other words your " solution " (as you have called it) is not a solution as long " somebody has problems " . This is maybe a " riddle " - But maybe also " plain simple " - the problems dissolve as " you " dissolve and there is nothing to say Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Hi my dear Babaji, I am happy to be able to entertain you. But you are slooow irony is beyond your capacity and humor is unknown in your world The solution: I am afraid this time I don't have one Stefan Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote: > > > > Hi Babaji, > > > > back from silence? > > I knew irony is beyond your capacity. > > Just as your ability to read statements in correlation with the thread. > > (Hint: the subject " The Solution " was from Arvind, not from me). > > > > The solution: > > go back to kindergarden > > > > :-)) > > > > Stefan > > > who wrote: > > " This is the solution. " > > stefan did. > > is there anything besides air in your head? > > well that keeps it simple for you then. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote: > > Hi my dear Babaji, > > I am happy to be able to entertain you. > But you are slooow > irony is beyond your capacity > and humor is unknown in your world > > The solution: > I am afraid this time I don't have one > > Stefan " this' time????????? ROFLMAO. oh you kid! ..b b.b. ****************************NNB*************************************** > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Babaji, > > > > > > back from silence? > > > I knew irony is beyond your capacity. > > > Just as your ability to read statements in correlation with the > thread. > > > (Hint: the subject " The Solution " was from Arvind, not from me). > > > > > > The solution: > > > go back to kindergarden > > > > > > :-)) > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > who wrote: > > > > " This is the solution. " > > > > stefan did. > > > > is there anything besides air in your head? > > > > well that keeps it simple for you then. > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Good, Babaji! You are really very slow, but finally you seem to have understood that there was never a solution! Well, it seems... let's see. Have a nice day Stefan Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote: > > > > Hi my dear Babaji, > > > > I am happy to be able to entertain you. > > But you are slooow > > irony is beyond your capacity > > and humor is unknown in your world > > > > The solution: > > I am afraid this time I don't have one > > > > Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote: > > Good, Babaji! > > You are really very slow, > but finally you seem to have understood > that there was never a solution! > > Well, it seems... let's see. > > Have a nice day > Stefan this unintelligible riposte of yours is but a sad example of scraping the bottom of the barrel for some semblance of 'self' respect after being shown how stupid your lines of thought and attempts at communicating them were in fact even more clueless than just being wrong. baba knows that there is no solution for things being this way for you. and clueless... no one is fast...no one is slow...in timelessness. don't get pissed off..there is 'no one' pissing 'you' off... there is 'no one' to be pissed off... there is no piss to be pissed. don't worry yourself over 'things' that 'seem': " Well, it seems... let's see. " 'you' will never ever see. have whatever kind of day you think you're having, ..b b.b. ***************************NNB************************************** > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi my dear Babaji, > > > > > > I am happy to be able to entertain you. > > > But you are slooow > > > irony is beyond your capacity > > > and humor is unknown in your world > > > > > > The solution: > > > I am afraid this time I don't have one > > > > > > Stefan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Hello my friend, it obviously only " seemed " ... and Baba is back in defensive mode Stefan Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote: > > > > Good, Babaji! > > > > You are really very slow, > > but finally you seem to have understood > > that there was never a solution! > > > > Well, it seems... let's see. > > > > Have a nice day > > Stefan > > this unintelligible riposte of yours is but a sad example of scraping > the bottom of the barrel for some semblance of 'self' respect after > being shown how stupid your lines of thought and attempts at > communicating them were in fact even more clueless than just being wrong. > > baba knows that there is no solution for things being this way for > > you. > > and clueless... > > no one is fast...no one is slow...in timelessness. > > don't get pissed off..there is 'no one' pissing 'you' off... > > there is 'no one' to be pissed off... > > there is no piss to be pissed. > > don't worry yourself over 'things' that 'seem': > > " Well, it seems... let's see. " > > 'you' will never ever see. > > have whatever kind of day you think you're having, > > .b b.b. > > > ***************************NNB************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote: > > Hello my friend, > > it obviously only " seemed " ... > and Baba is back in defensive mode > > Stefan quit being so defensive steven. it's evident you're having a 'soldier sefie' day. charge on little gallant knight.. defend your illusions of power. baba is here to slap you out of your silly dreams. ..b b.b. ***************************NNB*************************************** > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote: > > > > > > Good, Babaji! > > > > > > You are really very slow, > > > but finally you seem to have understood > > > that there was never a solution! > > > > > > Well, it seems... let's see. > > > > > > Have a nice day > > > Stefan > > > > > this unintelligible riposte of yours is but a sad example of scraping > > the bottom of the barrel for some semblance of 'self' respect after > > being shown how stupid your lines of thought and attempts at > > communicating them were in fact even more clueless than just being > wrong. > > > > baba knows that there is no solution for things being this way for > > > > you. > > > > and clueless... > > > > no one is fast...no one is slow...in timelessness. > > > > don't get pissed off..there is 'no one' pissing 'you' off... > > > > there is 'no one' to be pissed off... > > > > there is no piss to be pissed. > > > > don't worry yourself over 'things' that 'seem': > > > > " Well, it seems... let's see. " > > > > 'you' will never ever see. > > > > have whatever kind of day you think you're having, > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > ***************************NNB************************************** > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Ahhh... good, Baba! You sound much better when you are not whining That nobody understands you. But now, there is the next step for you: take care about your own dreams It is not so difficult when you realize that - when you write about Stefan - you are in fact writing about Baba. Just go for it... and do not fall back into defensive mode Stefan Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote: > > > > Hello my friend, > > > > it obviously only " seemed " ... > > and Baba is back in defensive mode > > > > Stefan > > > > quit being so defensive steven. > > it's evident you're having a 'soldier sefie' day. > > charge on little gallant knight.. > > defend your illusions of power. > > baba is here to slap you out of your silly dreams. > > > > .b b.b. > > > ***************************NNB*************************************** > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Good, Babaji! > > > > > > > > You are really very slow, > > > > but finally you seem to have understood > > > > that there was never a solution! > > > > > > > > Well, it seems... let's see. > > > > > > > > Have a nice day > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > this unintelligible riposte of yours is but a sad example of scraping > > > the bottom of the barrel for some semblance of 'self' respect after > > > being shown how stupid your lines of thought and attempts at > > > communicating them were in fact even more clueless than just being > > wrong. > > > > > > baba knows that there is no solution for things being this way for > > > > > > you. > > > > > > and clueless... > > > > > > no one is fast...no one is slow...in timelessness. > > > > > > don't get pissed off..there is 'no one' pissing 'you' off... > > > > > > there is 'no one' to be pissed off... > > > > > > there is no piss to be pissed. > > > > > > don't worry yourself over 'things' that 'seem': > > > > > > " Well, it seems... let's see. " > > > > > > 'you' will never ever see. > > > > > > have whatever kind of day you think you're having, > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > ***************************NNB************************************** > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote: > > Ahhh... good, Baba! > > You sound much better when you are not whining > That nobody understands you. > > But now, there is the next step for you: > take care about your own dreams > It is not so difficult when you realize > that - when you write about Stefan - > you are in fact writing about Baba. > > Just go for it... > and do not fall back into defensive mode > > Stefan stop whimpering. you need discipline. child... you will never understand the baba. baba Rejoices in this. never does .b bobji kvetch about not being understood... that fact is baba's greatest Joy. seeing that 'you' dream of baba dreaming is humorous. when realized that the initial dreamer is also the dreamt... all that's left is to giggle at the passing leaves and passing foolish stevies. LOL! ..b b.b. **************************NNB***************************************** > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello my friend, > > > > > > it obviously only " seemed " ... > > > and Baba is back in defensive mode > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > quit being so defensive steven. > > > > it's evident you're having a 'soldier sefie' day. > > > > charge on little gallant knight.. > > > > defend your illusions of power. > > > > baba is here to slap you out of your silly dreams. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > ***************************NNB*************************************** > > > Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Good, Babaji! > > > > > > > > > > You are really very slow, > > > > > but finally you seem to have understood > > > > > that there was never a solution! > > > > > > > > > > Well, it seems... let's see. > > > > > > > > > > Have a nice day > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > this unintelligible riposte of yours is but a sad example of > scraping > > > > the bottom of the barrel for some semblance of 'self' respect after > > > > being shown how stupid your lines of thought and attempts at > > > > communicating them were in fact even more clueless than just being > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > baba knows that there is no solution for things being this way for > > > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > and clueless... > > > > > > > > no one is fast...no one is slow...in timelessness. > > > > > > > > don't get pissed off..there is 'no one' pissing 'you' off... > > > > > > > > there is 'no one' to be pissed off... > > > > > > > > there is no piss to be pissed. > > > > > > > > don't worry yourself over 'things' that 'seem': > > > > > > > > " Well, it seems... let's see. " > > > > > > > > 'you' will never ever see. > > > > > > > > have whatever kind of day you think you're having, > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************************NNB************************************** > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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