One vs Many--for the umteenth time

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I have made lots of posts dealing with this issue--and now, if you will

excuse me, I will make another. I think I am getting a bit of a handle

on the matter:the world is so hugely and crazy-profusely various that

to call it a (an?) unicity seems impossible to do with any real

conviction.But maybe what is meant by that term is this:the world--each

has his own--is various when it is seen, heard, touched,smelled,

tasted, thought about, but it is one when it is felt.By feeling I mean

value.The source of value is the LIFE. It ,value(you know value--

love,joy,peace,power--and all thoses feeling that seem to threaten the

former such as horror, fear, despair,which might be called anti-values)

has only one source.The love you feel for your child, or your dog, is

the child's value, is the dog's value.We love both with one love.The

beauty and power you feel when you look at the river is its' value.The

vast feeling you get when you see the sky is its' value.And none of

these things would make any impression at all if it were not for their

having value for us.--I am beginning to flag and wander but I think I

have said enough to give an idea of what I mean.It is best summed up by

the great Chinese adage:The ten thousand things are nothing but

modifcations of the heart.Z

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Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote:

>

> I have made lots of posts dealing with this issue--and now, if you will

> excuse me, I will make another. I think I am getting a bit of a handle

> on the matter:the world is so hugely and crazy-profusely various that

> to call it a (an?) unicity seems impossible to do with any real

> conviction.But maybe what is meant by that term is this:the world--each

> has his own--is various when it is seen, heard, touched,smelled,

> tasted, thought about, but it is one when it is felt.By feeling I mean

> value.The source of value is the LIFE. It ,value(you know value--

> love,joy,peace,power--and all thoses feeling that seem to threaten the

> former such as horror, fear, despair,which might be called anti-values)

> has only one source.The love you feel for your child, or your dog, is

> the child's value, is the dog's value.We love both with one love.The

> beauty and power you feel when you look at the river is its' value.The

> vast feeling you get when you see the sky is its' value.And none of

> these things would make any impression at all if it were not for their

> having value for us.--I am beginning to flag and wander but I think I

> have said enough to give an idea of what I mean.It is best summed up by

> the great Chinese adage:The ten thousand things are nothing but

> modifcations of the heart.Z

 

 

So... " The ten thousand things are nothing but modifications of the

heart. "

 

Thoughts are things...yes? So, the ten thousand thoughts are nothing

but modifications of the heart?

Pigeons are things... yes? So, the ten thousand pigeons are nothing

but modifications of the heart?

Perhaps the adage is confusing.

 

It appears that the " conditioned " so-called mind of the body/mind

entity named Tom seems intent on complicating what is essentially simple.

 

Quoting Tom: " The source of value is the LIFE? "

Whoa! Source is Life. Value is merely a label and as such is of no value.

 

Being there is only One Source... all Life is Unicity. Tom's life

force is no different than my life force or the life force of the

other 6 billion body/mind entities on planet earth. Only one Life

force.. Unicity. Simple.

 

As Source manifests... unicity is individualized. As waves of water

are unique and individualized, all waves are of the same Source. But

unlike the fallacious beliefs of humans... waves know separation never

happens. Furthermore, waves know they have no life independent of

Source... they are simply extensions of Source.

 

Unique to humans is the appearance of a so-called mind. An aspect of

so-called mind is the intellect. Intellect... by nature... can only

conceptualize. As such... it labels everything, rationalizes

everything, judges everything, conceptualizes everything.

Ironically... the more the so-called mind intellectualizes... the more

ignorant it reveals itself to be.

 

Yet intellect performs an important function in that it enables a

body/mind entity to function in a dualistic so-called world... i.e.,

ability to learn and reason, acquire knowledge and understanding. Via

intellect we can learn math... how to drive a car, fly a plane, paint

a house.

 

Such are the mechanics. Yet, the human operates... by Divine Design...

in a relative reality of a dualistic so-called world. This is

necessary for God knows itself through the experience of being human.

The human... by design... exhibits the capacity to " react " to

so-called experiences. As no two fingerprints are exactly the same...

no two reactions to any given stimuli are the same. The multiplicity

of reactions (feelings) are for the Unmanifest... not the manifest.

 

Quoting Tom; " Love, ,joy, peace, power--and all those feeling that

seem to threaten the former such as horror, fear, despair, (which

might be called anti-values) has only one source. "

 

In the dualistic world of relativity... the one Source is

individualized. No two manifested body/minds " experience " love the

same way, or joy the same way, or power the same way, or fear, or

despair. How boring for God if feelings were all experienced in

exactly the same manner by all body/mind entities.

 

Quoting Tom; " The love you feel for your child, or your dog, is the

child's value, is the dog's value.

 

So an unloved child by a human is of no value?

An unloved dog by a human is of no value?

Or is the child's existence it's so-called value.

And the dog's existence it's so-called value.

 

In all of Creation... what could possibly be unloved by the Divine?

Seeing the Divine in ALL is True love.

 

Quoting Tom; " We love both with one love. "

 

Does the body/mind entity love one's mother the same way... or to the

same degree... one loves a child, or a cousin, or a neighbor, or a

dog, or a girl/boyfriend, or the spiritual teacher, or nature?

 

Quoting Tom; " The beauty and power you feel when you look at the river

is its' value. "

 

Beauty. Power. Words. So-called mind interpreting a visual experience.

There's no so-called value in the words emanating from a mirage. Since

the Unmanifest manifests the water that comprises a river... does its

existence need flowery prose from a mirage to give it value. God

viewing its creation through the eyes of a sensory instrument known as

a human being is sufficient. It knows what It sees without any silly

human mentations. But if a thought pops up like... my, what a

beautiful river... that's fine. It's just God talking to Itself

(Unicity) as it admires Its handiwork. Either way, it didn't have a

thing to do with the so-called you other than you are the body/mind

sensory instrument created to have a particular so-called experience.

 

What is always forgotten is that humans don't have a life... they are

being lived... by Source... Consciousness, Totality, Divine

Intelligence, God... whatever you prefer. If the human were able to

recognize that the individual's so-called mind is but a mirage...

Unicity is easily seen. But because the mind cannot transcend

itself... such recognizing can only happen by the Grace of God.

 

What to do? There's no " you " to do anything. What the body/mind does

is what Source will have done in every divine instant. Personal

volition is a huge joke. Is this message being written by personal

volition? Not a chance.

 

Now... go out and look at the sky... without labeling it, or

describing it. Recognizing that what's doing the seeing is Divine

Intelligence looking at Its Creation... you are merely the sensing

instrument for Totality as Totality manifested you. Enjoy the splendor

without interpreting it or verbalizing anything about it and in the

stillness... you experience Unicity. The so-called " values " eluded to

above are merely trivial exercises of the intellect of a so-called

mind that is but a mirage.

 

So why do it? It's not a choice. Even the appearance of the mirage

intellectualizing is Divine Intelligence forgetting it's Divine

Intelligence. Hence... the cosmic joke eluded to by sages for eons.

Unfortunately, most egos don't think it's very funny.

 

Can anything be done to change the situation? How... there's no " you "

to do any changing. Yet... some... the so-called enlightened ones...

appeared to have transcended the so-called mind. Aha... it appeared to

happen because of Source's programming of the biological body/mind

entity. Example... take a tomato seed. Very small. Contained in that

very tiny seed is the complete genetic blueprint for the entire plant

and every fruit... including the texture of the fruit, the flavor, the

color. Same for the impregnated egg of mother from father's

microscopic sperm. All the computers of the world are woefully

insufficient to contain the blueprint of your biological body and the

intelligence to grow a wonderfully complex human being from such

minute beginnings... including the appearance, function and

programming of the so-called mind.

 

The only issue is the conditioned mind. Cultural and environmental

conditional beliefs, ideologies and philosophies... etc. The

conditioned mind could be said to be full of poo poo considering that

none of it is Truth. But nothing exists outside the " Mind " of God so

all that poo poo didn't get there by accident. Thus... even poo poo

could be said to be " divine " poo poo... smelling like roses. And all

is well in the world.

 

Enjoy your life... it's God's... not yours! Understand this and you

understand Unicity. Accept this... and... well... you'll see.

 

Perhaps this post will invoke a reaction in some but before teeing off

on the contents... perhaps one might be prudent to recognize that

nothing contained herein is claimed to be the Truth in the context of

the Absolute because anything that is said at the level of mind about

the absolute Truth cannot be it. However, all that appears to be said

has a so-called Level of Consciousness... a relative degree of

truthfulness. Those who know how to calibrate LOCs will discover a

significant difference between the LOC of " Tom's " post and this response.

 

From Within to the manifest... Nameste.

 

Bob,

Fillmore , CA