Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 In the light of consciousness all sorts of things happen and one need not give special importance to any. The sight of a flower is as marvelous as the vision of God. Let them be. Why remember them and then make memory into a problem? Be bland about them; do not divide them into high and low, inner and outer, lasting and transient. Go beyond, go back to the source, go to the self that is the same whatever happens. Your weakness is due to your conviction that you were born into the world. In reality the world is ever recreated in you and by you. See everything as emanating from the light which is the source of your own being. - Nisargadatta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dan_ananda " <dan_ananda wrote: > > In the light of consciousness all sorts of things happen and one need > not give > special importance to any. The sight of a flower is as marvelous as > the vision > of God. Let them be. Why remember them and then make memory into a > problem? Be > bland about them; do not divide them into high and low, inner and > outer, lasting > and transient. Go beyond, go back to the source, go to the self that > is the same > whatever happens. Your weakness is due to your conviction that you > were born > into the world. In reality the world is ever recreated in you and by > you. See > everything as emanating from the light which is the source of your own > being. > > - Nisargadatta > Why does it have to be repeated so often that that everything is one thing? Maybe because we are assuming that oneness involves sameness and it is hard to imagine how a revolver can be one with a crucifix? etc.? What the advaita guys seem to be getting at is:the multiverse is one because that which experiences it is one and the value of anything in the multiverse derives from the valuableness of the one experiencer.It is a projected value. But this position still does not account for the existence of the multiverse. By this position the multiverse might even be separate from the exdperiencer and only his experience of the multiverse is one. What a can of worms is this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan_ananda " dan_ananda@ > wrote: > > > > In the light of consciousness all sorts of things happen and one > need > > not give > > special importance to any. The sight of a flower is as marvelous as > > the vision > > of God. Let them be. Why remember them and then make memory into a > > problem? Be > > bland about them; do not divide them into high and low, inner and > > outer, lasting > > and transient. Go beyond, go back to the source, go to the self > that > > is the same > > whatever happens. Your weakness is due to your conviction that you > > were born > > into the world. In reality the world is ever recreated in you and > by > > you. See > > everything as emanating from the light which is the source of your > own > > being. > > > > - Nisargadatta > > > > Why does it have to be repeated so often that that everything is one > thing? Maybe because we are assuming that oneness involves sameness > and it is hard to imagine how a revolver can be one with a crucifix? > etc.? What the advaita guys seem to be getting at is:the multiverse > is one because that which experiences it is one and the value of > anything in the multiverse derives from the valuableness of the one > experiencer.It is a projected value. But this position still does > not account for the existence of the multiverse. By this position > the multiverse might even be separate from the exdperiencer and only > his experience of the multiverse is one. What a can of worms is > this! > At the Source, we are all one. But, the expression of that One takes on a multitude of forms and appearances. That which you are looking out of and that which I am looking out of is the same ineffable One: an absolutely clear and radiant No-thing; the aware-space in which appears everything. Love, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dan_ananda " <dan_ananda wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan_ananda " dan_ananda@ > > wrote: > > > > > > In the light of consciousness all sorts of things happen and one > > need > > > not give > > > special importance to any. The sight of a flower is as marvelous as > > > the vision > > > of God. Let them be. Why remember them and then make memory into a > > > problem? Be > > > bland about them; do not divide them into high and low, inner and > > > outer, lasting > > > and transient. Go beyond, go back to the source, go to the self > > that > > > is the same > > > whatever happens. Your weakness is due to your conviction that you > > > were born > > > into the world. In reality the world is ever recreated in you and > > by > > > you. See > > > everything as emanating from the light which is the source of your > > own > > > being. > > > > > > - Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Why does it have to be repeated so often that that everything is one > > thing? Maybe because we are assuming that oneness involves sameness > > and it is hard to imagine how a revolver can be one with a crucifix? > > etc.? What the advaita guys seem to be getting at is:the multiverse > > is one because that which experiences it is one and the value of > > anything in the multiverse derives from the valuableness of the one > > experiencer.It is a projected value. But this position still does > > not account for the existence of the multiverse. By this position > > the multiverse might even be separate from the exdperiencer and only > > his experience of the multiverse is one. What a can of worms is > > this! > > > > At the Source, we are all one. But, the expression of that One takes on > a multitude of forms and appearances. > > That which you are looking out of and that which I am looking out of is > the same ineffable One: an absolutely clear and radiant No-thing; the > aware-space in which appears everything. Dan, There is no one who is looking out of. The looker-out-of is an illusion. It is thought which claims there is the " source " . It is thought which claims to look out of the source. It is thought which says " the source is the same ineffable One: an absolutely clear and radiant No- thing; the aware-space in which appears everything " . It is thought which is parroting every nonsense read in holy books or repeating all that crap which is taught by spiritual teachers. Werner > > Love, > > Dan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dan_ananda " <dan_ananda wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan_ananda " dan_ananda@ > > wrote: > > > > > > In the light of consciousness all sorts of things happen and one > > need > > > not give > > > special importance to any. The sight of a flower is as marvelous as > > > the vision > > > of God. Let them be. Why remember them and then make memory into a > > > problem? Be > > > bland about them; do not divide them into high and low, inner and > > > outer, lasting > > > and transient. Go beyond, go back to the source, go to the self > > that > > > is the same > > > whatever happens. Your weakness is due to your conviction that you > > > were born > > > into the world. In reality the world is ever recreated in you and > > by > > > you. See > > > everything as emanating from the light which is the source of your > > own > > > being. > > > > > > - Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Why does it have to be repeated so often that that everything is one > > thing? Maybe because we are assuming that oneness involves sameness > > and it is hard to imagine how a revolver can be one with a crucifix? > > etc.? What the advaita guys seem to be getting at is:the multiverse > > is one because that which experiences it is one and the value of > > anything in the multiverse derives from the valuableness of the one > > experiencer.It is a projected value. But this position still does > > not account for the existence of the multiverse. By this position > > the multiverse might even be separate from the exdperiencer and only > > his experience of the multiverse is one. What a can of worms is > > this! > > > > At the Source, we are all one. But, the expression of that One takes on > a multitude of forms and appearances. > > That which you are looking out of and that which I am looking out of is > the same ineffable One: an absolutely clear and radiant No-thing; the > aware-space in which appears everything. > > Love, > > Dan .....nice words...yes it's about the " expression " of that One...... to take such " expressions " ...in whatever forms and appearences.....for real, means for the One.... lead to inner/outer conflicts.... Marc Ps: soo many people running around in the believe....they are God.... and therefore.....enter/running constantly in conflicts......which is only a result of their ignorance > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan_ananda " <dan_ananda@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan_ananda " dan_ananda@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > In the light of consciousness all sorts of things happen and one > > > need > > > > not give > > > > special importance to any. The sight of a flower is as > marvelous as > > > > the vision > > > > of God. Let them be. Why remember them and then make memory > into a > > > > problem? Be > > > > bland about them; do not divide them into high and low, inner > and > > > > outer, lasting > > > > and transient. Go beyond, go back to the source, go to the self > > > that > > > > is the same > > > > whatever happens. Your weakness is due to your conviction that > you > > > > were born > > > > into the world. In reality the world is ever recreated in you > and > > > by > > > > you. See > > > > everything as emanating from the light which is the source of > your > > > own > > > > being. > > > > > > > > - Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > Why does it have to be repeated so often that that everything is > one > > > thing? Maybe because we are assuming that oneness involves > sameness > > > and it is hard to imagine how a revolver can be one with a > crucifix? > > > etc.? What the advaita guys seem to be getting at is:the > multiverse > > > is one because that which experiences it is one and the value of > > > anything in the multiverse derives from the valuableness of the > one > > > experiencer.It is a projected value. But this position still does > > > not account for the existence of the multiverse. By this position > > > the multiverse might even be separate from the exdperiencer and > only > > > his experience of the multiverse is one. What a can of worms is > > > this! > > > > > > > At the Source, we are all one. But, the expression of that One > takes on > > a multitude of forms and appearances. > > > > That which you are looking out of and that which I am looking out > of is > > the same ineffable One: an absolutely clear and radiant No-thing; > the > > aware-space in which appears everything. > > > > Love, > > > > Dan > > > ....nice words...yes > > > it's about the " expression " of that One...... > > to take such " expressions " ...in whatever forms and > appearences.....for real, means for the One.... > lead to inner/outer conflicts.... > > > Marc > > > Ps: soo many people running around in the believe....they are God.... > and therefore.....enter/running constantly in conflicts......which is > only a result of their ignorance > > > Who is " people " , Marc ? Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan_ananda " <dan_ananda@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan_ananda " dan_ananda@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In the light of consciousness all sorts of things happen and > one > > > > need > > > > > not give > > > > > special importance to any. The sight of a flower is as > > marvelous as > > > > > the vision > > > > > of God. Let them be. Why remember them and then make memory > > into a > > > > > problem? Be > > > > > bland about them; do not divide them into high and low, inner > > and > > > > > outer, lasting > > > > > and transient. Go beyond, go back to the source, go to the > self > > > > that > > > > > is the same > > > > > whatever happens. Your weakness is due to your conviction > that > > you > > > > > were born > > > > > into the world. In reality the world is ever recreated in you > > and > > > > by > > > > > you. See > > > > > everything as emanating from the light which is the source of > > your > > > > own > > > > > being. > > > > > > > > > > - Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why does it have to be repeated so often that that everything > is > > one > > > > thing? Maybe because we are assuming that oneness involves > > sameness > > > > and it is hard to imagine how a revolver can be one with a > > crucifix? > > > > etc.? What the advaita guys seem to be getting at is:the > > multiverse > > > > is one because that which experiences it is one and the value of > > > > anything in the multiverse derives from the valuableness of the > > one > > > > experiencer.It is a projected value. But this position still > does > > > > not account for the existence of the multiverse. By this > position > > > > the multiverse might even be separate from the exdperiencer and > > only > > > > his experience of the multiverse is one. What a can of worms is > > > > this! > > > > > > > > > > At the Source, we are all one. But, the expression of that One > > takes on > > > a multitude of forms and appearances. > > > > > > That which you are looking out of and that which I am looking out > > of is > > > the same ineffable One: an absolutely clear and radiant No- thing; > > the > > > aware-space in which appears everything. > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > ....nice words...yes > > > > > > it's about the " expression " of that One...... > > > > to take such " expressions " ...in whatever forms and > > appearences.....for real, means for the One.... > > lead to inner/outer conflicts.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Ps: soo many people running around in the believe....they are > God.... > > and therefore.....enter/running constantly in conflicts......which > is > > only a result of their ignorance > > > > > > > > Who is " people " , Marc ? > > Werner > who is " Werner " , Werner? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan_ananda " <dan_ananda@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan_ananda " dan_ananda@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In the light of consciousness all sorts of things happen > and > > one > > > > > need > > > > > > not give > > > > > > special importance to any. The sight of a flower is as > > > marvelous as > > > > > > the vision > > > > > > of God. Let them be. Why remember them and then make memory > > > into a > > > > > > problem? Be > > > > > > bland about them; do not divide them into high and low, > inner > > > and > > > > > > outer, lasting > > > > > > and transient. Go beyond, go back to the source, go to the > > self > > > > > that > > > > > > is the same > > > > > > whatever happens. Your weakness is due to your conviction > > that > > > you > > > > > > were born > > > > > > into the world. In reality the world is ever recreated in > you > > > and > > > > > by > > > > > > you. See > > > > > > everything as emanating from the light which is the source > of > > > your > > > > > own > > > > > > being. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why does it have to be repeated so often that that everything > > is > > > one > > > > > thing? Maybe because we are assuming that oneness involves > > > sameness > > > > > and it is hard to imagine how a revolver can be one with a > > > crucifix? > > > > > etc.? What the advaita guys seem to be getting at is:the > > > multiverse > > > > > is one because that which experiences it is one and the value > of > > > > > anything in the multiverse derives from the valuableness of > the > > > one > > > > > experiencer.It is a projected value. But this position still > > does > > > > > not account for the existence of the multiverse. By this > > position > > > > > the multiverse might even be separate from the exdperiencer > and > > > only > > > > > his experience of the multiverse is one. What a can of worms > is > > > > > this! > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the Source, we are all one. But, the expression of that One > > > takes on > > > > a multitude of forms and appearances. > > > > > > > > That which you are looking out of and that which I am looking > out > > > of is > > > > the same ineffable One: an absolutely clear and radiant No- > thing; > > > the > > > > aware-space in which appears everything. > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > ....nice words...yes > > > > > > > > > it's about the " expression " of that One...... > > > > > > to take such " expressions " ...in whatever forms and > > > appearences.....for real, means for the One.... > > > lead to inner/outer conflicts.... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Ps: soo many people running around in the believe....they are > > God.... > > > and therefore.....enter/running constantly in > conflicts......which > > is > > > only a result of their ignorance > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who is " people " , Marc ? > > > > Werner > > > > > who is " Werner " , Werner? > > > > > > Marc > Yeah, yeah, " People " is throwing ball back to " Werner " ... Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan_ananda " <dan_ananda@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan_ananda " > dan_ananda@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the light of consciousness all sorts of things happen > > and > > > one > > > > > > need > > > > > > > not give > > > > > > > special importance to any. The sight of a flower is as > > > > marvelous as > > > > > > > the vision > > > > > > > of God. Let them be. Why remember them and then make > memory > > > > into a > > > > > > > problem? Be > > > > > > > bland about them; do not divide them into high and low, > > inner > > > > and > > > > > > > outer, lasting > > > > > > > and transient. Go beyond, go back to the source, go to > the > > > self > > > > > > that > > > > > > > is the same > > > > > > > whatever happens. Your weakness is due to your conviction > > > that > > > > you > > > > > > > were born > > > > > > > into the world. In reality the world is ever recreated in > > you > > > > and > > > > > > by > > > > > > > you. See > > > > > > > everything as emanating from the light which is the > source > > of > > > > your > > > > > > own > > > > > > > being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why does it have to be repeated so often that that > everything > > > is > > > > one > > > > > > thing? Maybe because we are assuming that oneness involves > > > > sameness > > > > > > and it is hard to imagine how a revolver can be one with a > > > > crucifix? > > > > > > etc.? What the advaita guys seem to be getting at is:the > > > > multiverse > > > > > > is one because that which experiences it is one and the > value > > of > > > > > > anything in the multiverse derives from the valuableness of > > the > > > > one > > > > > > experiencer.It is a projected value. But this position > still > > > does > > > > > > not account for the existence of the multiverse. By this > > > position > > > > > > the multiverse might even be separate from the exdperiencer > > and > > > > only > > > > > > his experience of the multiverse is one. What a can of > worms > > is > > > > > > this! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the Source, we are all one. But, the expression of that > One > > > > takes on > > > > > a multitude of forms and appearances. > > > > > > > > > > That which you are looking out of and that which I am looking > > out > > > > of is > > > > > the same ineffable One: an absolutely clear and radiant No- > > thing; > > > > the > > > > > aware-space in which appears everything. > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > ....nice words...yes > > > > > > > > > > > > it's about the " expression " of that One...... > > > > > > > > to take such " expressions " ...in whatever forms and > > > > appearences.....for real, means for the One.... > > > > lead to inner/outer conflicts.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: soo many people running around in the believe....they are > > > God.... > > > > and therefore.....enter/running constantly in > > conflicts......which > > > is > > > > only a result of their ignorance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who is " people " , Marc ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > who is " Werner " , Werner? > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > Yeah, yeah, > > " People " is throwing ball back to " Werner " ... > > > > Werner and then there is a forward to " Marc " happening.... and so on... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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