Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Dear Marc, You are so right, I am retarded. I do not know, I do not feel, I do not experience, All those glorious states, Insights and ideas that are The bright companions of your life. I am only a poor something Dull from grief Blinded from desires Hopeless from disappointments Even an ant is more enlightened Than I could ever be I feel left out, utterly alone In a huge desert without any hint Which direction to take. All I see are mirages Shall I take them for real just To have an hour or two Of false enjoyment? How long can such games go on? Dear Marc, I have to let you know You cannot provide any answers Solutions or methods for me Which I have not already tried. And you are so right to blame me (As you always so mercifully do) For how I am. Guilty. There is no excuse For my hopelessness. You are so lucky my friend! Enjoy it. Sincerely Stefan Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: there Is >you Are already That.... >but it seem that you don't know/feel/experience....etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote: > > Dear Marc, > > You are so right, I am retarded. > I do not know, > I do not feel, > I do not experience, > All those glorious states, > Insights and ideas that are > The bright companions of your life. > > I am only a poor something > Dull from grief > Blinded from desires > Hopeless from disappointments > Even an ant is more enlightened > Than I could ever be > I feel left out, utterly alone > In a huge desert without any hint > Which direction to take. > > All I see are mirages > Shall I take them for real just > To have an hour or two > Of false enjoyment? > How long can such games go on? > > Dear Marc, > > I have to let you know > You cannot provide any answers > Solutions or methods for me > Which I have not already tried. > And you are so right to blame me > (As you always so mercifully do) > For how I am. Guilty. > There is no excuse > For my hopelessness. > > You are so lucky my friend! > Enjoy it. > > Sincerely > Stefan > > yes.....i enjoy... Marc Ps: wish " you " to find other expected game partners... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 ??? Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: >Ps: wish " you " to find other expected game partners... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote: > > ??? > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > >Ps: wish " you " to find other expected game partners... > object Stefan, you will find as many people to exchange some fantastic concepts.... as there are thoughts running through the idea of being " Stefan " .... don't worry.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 > > I have to let you know > You cannot provide any answers > Solutions or methods for me > Which I have not already tried. >>Stefan: I would like to suggest that you try this: Not trying. I would like to suggest it but I know that you have tried that one too. Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Hi Marc, I am not sure why you call me " object " , but maybe, yes, thats what Stefan is. I am aware that all I can provide here Are concepts. This is all I can manage. My sadness is felt nevertheless And what I have written was not a game. I have written it with tears in my eyes. In your comments to my postings you are always telling me that I " miss " something, that I still dont " know " etc. This is fine, because you are right. But this is not new to me, and it does not ease my pain. Sincerely Stefan Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: >object Stefan, >you will find as many people to exchange some fantastic concepts.... >as there are thoughts running through the idea of being " Stefan " .... >don't worry.... > >Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: >>>Stefan: I would like to suggest that you try this: Not trying. I >would like to suggest it but I know that you have tried that one too. Z Thanks, I will try it again! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote: > Stefan, take it easy..... don't know realy how to help you out of pain.... wasn't aware of pain within " you " ....sorry about " you " will never miss anything in " your " life..... nothing realy to discover....... nothing realy to reach.... nothing realy to control.... nothing realy to learn.... .....etc except Peace & Calmness..... which is the source of all there is..... means, of what you (already) are..... and ever have been.... and ever will be... for real Marc > Hi Marc, > > I am not sure why you call me " object " , > but maybe, yes, thats what Stefan is. > > I am aware that all I can provide here > Are concepts. This is all I can manage. > My sadness is felt nevertheless > And what I have written was not a game. > I have written it with tears in my eyes. > > In your comments to my postings > you are always telling me that I > " miss " something, that I still dont " know " etc. > This is fine, because you are right. > But this is not new to me, and > it does not ease my pain. > > Sincerely > Stefan > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > >object Stefan, > >you will find as many people to exchange some fantastic concepts.... > >as there are thoughts running through the idea of being " Stefan " .... > >don't worry.... > > > >Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: >Stefan, > >take it easy..... >don't know realy how to help you out of pain.... >wasn't aware of pain within " you " ....sorry about > " you " will never miss anything in " your " life..... >nothing realy to discover....... >nothing realy to reach.... >nothing realy to control.... >nothing realy to learn.... >....etc >except Peace & Calmness..... Marc, no need to feel sorry and thank you for your words. Only, I do not believe in this exception. I hope this does not upset you. Greetings Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 > > Marc, > > no need to feel sorry and thank you for your words. > Only, I do not believe in this exception. > I hope this does not upset you. > > Greetings > Stefan > believe what you want to believe.... i don't care.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 -why dont just evolve into a more relaxed person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Sorry, you misunderstood, I said, I believe *not* in this exception. Stefan Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > > Marc, > > > > no need to feel sorry and thank you for your words. > > Only, I do not believe in this exception. > > I hope this does not upset you. > > > > Greetings > > Stefan > > > > > believe what you want to believe.... > > i don't care.... > > > > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote: > > Sorry, you misunderstood, > I said, I believe *not* in this exception. > whatever you believe....or not...... it's " your " business.... nobody " who " could care about.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Marc, I am not sure if I understand what you are trying to discuss I feel a bit irritated... when you say " its your business " does this mean: " keep quiet " , or " shut up " ? I know that it is my business! But it is not my business that you have replied! Don't you agree? I guess, again I simply don't " get " something... Stefan Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: >whatever you believe....or not...... >it's " your " business.... >nobody " who " could care about.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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