Guest guest Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Can someone solve my dilemma? If all that there is is one undifferentiated Consciousness, the concept of jIva, the individual itself will be an erroneous notion. Then how it possible for a jIva, to reincarnate, because in essence there is no separate jiVa from this Universal, Undifferentiated consciousness. What is it that is going to reincarnate? If there is no recarnation, why should we even bother for Self-Realization, and what is the value for moral framework in the society? Can anyone of you solve this dilemma? Regards Adityahttp://www.MaharajNisargadatta.com Nisargadatta , "dan_ananda" <dan_ananda wrote:>> > Nisargadatta , "tom" jeusisbuen@ wrote:> >> > Nisargadatta , "dan_ananda" dan_ananda@> > wrote:> > >> > > In the light of consciousness all sorts of things happen and one> > need> > > not give> > > special importance to any. The sight of a flower is as marvelous as> > > the vision> > > of God. Let them be. Why remember them and then make memory into a> > > problem? Be> > > bland about them; do not divide them into high and low, inner and> > > outer, lasting> > > and transient. Go beyond, go back to the source, go to the self> > that> > > is the same> > > whatever happens. Your weakness is due to your conviction that you> > > were born> > > into the world. In reality the world is ever recreated in you and> > by> > > you. See> > > everything as emanating from the light which is the source of your> > own> > > being.> > >> > > - Nisargadatta> > >> >> > Why does it have to be repeated so often that that everything is one> > thing? Maybe because we are assuming that oneness involves sameness> > and it is hard to imagine how a revolver can be one with a crucifix?> > etc.? What the advaita guys seem to be getting at is:the multiverse> > is one because that which experiences it is one and the value of> > anything in the multiverse derives from the valuableness of the one> > experiencer.It is a projected value. But this position still does> > not account for the existence of the multiverse. By this position> > the multiverse might even be separate from the exdperiencer and only> > his experience of the multiverse is one. What a can of worms is> > this!> >> > At the Source, we are all one. But, the expression of that One takes on> a multitude of forms and appearances.> > That which you are looking out of and that which I am looking out of is> the same ineffable One: an absolutely clear and radiant No-thing; the> aware-space in which appears everything.> > Love,> > Dan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , " aditya0908 " <aditya0908 wrote: > > > Can someone solve my dilemma? > If all that there is is one > undifferentiated Consciousness, > the concept of jIva, the individual > itself will be an erroneous notion. > Then how it possible for a jIva, to > reincarnate, because in essence there > is no separate jiVa from this > Universal, Undifferentiated consciousness. > What is it that is going to > reincarnate? If there is no recarnation, > why should we even bother for > Self-Realization, and what is the > value for moral framework in the > society? > > > Can anyone of you solve this dilemma? Why someone else should do it; are you too lazy to do it yourself ?;) Or, do you " believe " that others are so much better, smarter, 'realized', more knowledgeable and so 'different' than you ?;) [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Nisargadatta , " aditya0908 " <aditya0908 wrote: > > > Can someone solve my dilemma? Sure > If all that there is is one > undifferentiated Consciousness, > the concept of jIva, the individual > itself will be an erroneous notion. If earth is one, the concept of countries like USA, India, China, Africa will be an erroneous notion, but... is it? > Then how it possible for a jIva, to > reincarnate, because in essence there > is no separate jiVa from this > Universal, Undifferentiated consciousness. Perhaps, in the same way that countries and people talk about reducing pollution and 'saving the planet', though, those who are trying to 'save' it are part of the same planet. > What is it that is going to reincarnate? > If there is no recarnation, > why should we even bother for > Self-Realization, It is all in your desire to 'be happy'. If you don't care about being " happy " ; who is bothered ?;) > and what is the value > for moral framework in the > society? It is all about society being 'happy', 'peaceful', orderly, harmonious and 'easy to live in'. > Can anyone of you solve this dilemma? Sure Did I solve it for you ?;) > > Regards > > Aditya > http://www.MaharajNisargadatta.com <http://www.maharajnisargadatta.com/> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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