entrance&exit to/from the world dream....is absolutly free

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote:

>

>

> >

> > You are just a lazy bum, Tom.

> >

> > Werner

> >

>

> Werner: I never met a man who wasn't doing the best he could--and the

> only thing he could. Z

>

 

 

Ok, now its time to change that, be that man you never met;

 

Become a perfect lazy bum.

 

 

Werner

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > >

> > > You are just a lazy bum, Tom.

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> >

> > Werner: I never met a man who wasn't doing the best he could--

and the

> > only thing he could. Z

> >

>

>

> Ok, now its time to change that, be that man you never met;

>

> Become a perfect lazy bum.

>

>

>

> Werner

>

haha

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > >

> > > You are just a lazy bum, Tom.

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> >

> > Werner: I never met a man who wasn't doing the best he could--and the

> > only thing he could. Z

> >

>

>

> Ok, now its time to change that, be that man you never met;

>

> Become a perfect lazy bum.

>

>

>

> Werner

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well i can see how you....

 

as a perfect asshole....

 

would know just what it takes...

 

to be a perfect bum...

 

you've been one since seconds before you were born.

 

it's that time delay thingie of Werner Von Libetdom dumb dumb.

 

:-)))

 

..b b.b.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > >

> > > You are just a lazy bum, Tom.

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> >

> > Werner: I never met a man who wasn't doing the best he could--and

the

> > only thing he could. Z

> >

>

>

> Ok, now its time to change that, be that man you never met;

>

> Become a perfect lazy bum.

>

>

>

> Werner

 

 

........how about you Werner?.....are you sure that such identity of

a " lazy bum " would be exactly the right definition

of " Werner " ....?......

 

after we had made here some analyses about this attitudes of

Werner......

repeating many times the same concepts....he felt in love to....in

order to stay/become this his funny identity.....

 

 

 

Marc

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > You are just a lazy bum, Tom.

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > > >

> > >

> > > Werner: I never met a man who wasn't doing the best he could--

and the

> > > only thing he could. Z

> > >

> >

> >

> > Ok, now its time to change that, be that man you never met;

> >

> > Become a perfect lazy bum.

> >

> >

> >

> > Werner

>

well i can see how you....

>

> as a perfect asshole....

>

> would know just what it takes...

>

> to be a perfect bum...

>

> you've been one since seconds before you were born.

>

> it's that time delay thingie of Werner Von Libetdom dumb dumb.

>

> :-)))

>

> .b b.b.

 

 

lol.....

 

thanks the world for such great entertainment....

 

Marc

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lazy Tom! (just kidding :-))

 

Concepts??! Take all concepts away and there is... nothing. Even no

lazy Tom and Stefan, childish Baba and Marc, Silly Arvind or annoying

Werner. Please feel free to eliminate those attributes and we are

still dealing with concepts. Take those names away and we are still

dealing with concepts. Throw the computer out of the window and we are

still dealing with concepts.

 

Sorry, but your " land of being " - is the biggest concept of them all.

Because it is the mother of all the other concepts. Eliminating this

could indeed change the situation. But it is too frightening. Who

wants to eliminate himself? It is better to talk about it as if it

were the absolute truth. To draw those beautiful pictures of love and

peacefulness in a land of pure being. Ahhh... paradise! Who wants to

give up this dream? Gosh, then we would also have to give up posting

in this grandiose forum where everybody is allowed to be an

enlightened Guru for fife minutes (until he needs to go to the toilet).

 

Enamored??! Are you not enamored with that " land of being " ? This is

not an accusation, Tom. It is my helpless description of human nature.

We are all enamored with being. And so we are all enamored with

concepts because they keep us alive. And of course, the strongest of

them all is that last concept... the last obstacle, as it is sometimes

called.

 

But obstacle from what? What comes after? What are we searching for?

The most clever minds here know the answers, of course! And they have

been repeated here ad nauseam, and they will be repeated again and

again. But - honestly - can somebody post an absolutely true and

truthful answer? No.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Hi Lazy Tom! (just kidding :-))

>

> Concepts??! Take all concepts away and there is... nothing. Even no

> lazy Tom and Stefan, childish Baba and Marc, Silly Arvind or

annoying

> Werner. Please feel free to eliminate those attributes and we are

> still dealing with concepts. Take those names away and we are still

> dealing with concepts. Throw the computer out of the window and we

are

> still dealing with concepts.

>

> Sorry, but your " land of being " - is the biggest concept of them

all.

> Because it is the mother of all the other concepts. Eliminating this

> could indeed change the situation. But it is too frightening. Who

> wants to eliminate himself? It is better to talk about it as if it

> were the absolute truth. To draw those beautiful pictures of love

and

> peacefulness in a land of pure being. Ahhh... paradise! Who wants to

> give up this dream? Gosh, then we would also have to give up posting

> in this grandiose forum where everybody is allowed to be an

> enlightened Guru for fife minutes (until he needs to go to the

toilet).

>

> Enamored??! Are you not enamored with that " land of being " ? This is

> not an accusation, Tom. It is my helpless description of human

nature.

> We are all enamored with being. And so we are all enamored with

> concepts because they keep us alive. And of course, the strongest of

> them all is that last concept... the last obstacle, as it is

sometimes

> called.

>

> But obstacle from what? What comes after? What are we searching for?

> The most clever minds here know the answers, of course! And they

have

> been repeated here ad nauseam, and they will be repeated again and

> again. But - honestly - can somebody post an absolutely true and

> truthful answer? No.

[Guest guest]

The only one who is accusing anybody here is

" peaceful " Marc

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

 

>and therfore continue to accuse imaginary others....for his

>ignorance......

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> The only one who is accusing anybody here is

> " peaceful " Marc

 

 

 

 

that's an accusation if i ever heard one...

 

coming from..

 

guess where...

 

'the only one' name Stefan.

 

the no one that is 'the only one'.... who's named stevie..

 

IS who is accusing...

 

and which said 'who'...

 

is being obtuse...dull... and aphasic.

 

in a word or several then, let me say:

 

said recriminatory stephie is a dullard.

 

 

..b b.b.

 

 

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

>

> >and therfore continue to accuse imaginary others....for his

> >ignorance......

>

[Guest guest]

Ahhh, even when someone talks

only to BABAs little friend

he forgets all his past defeats

and goes into defense mode again

 

Happy birthday!

 

Stefan

 

 

Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote:

> >

> > The only one who is accusing anybody here is

> > " peaceful " Marc

>

>

>

>

> that's an accusation if i ever heard one...

>

> coming from..

>

> guess where...

>

> 'the only one' name Stefan.

>

> the no one that is 'the only one'.... who's named stevie..

>

> IS who is accusing...

>

> and which said 'who'...

>

> is being obtuse...dull... and aphasic.

>

> in a word or several then, let me say:

>

> said recriminatory stephie is a dullard.

>

>

> .b b.b.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> The only one who is accusing anybody here is

> " peaceful " Marc

 

 

LOL

 

Stefan.....what do you realy expect from people in here?....

you answer their messages.....coming from / to.... " Nobody " .....

 

and then you expect such " Nobodies " taking the bubble of

Stefan....sooo.....soooo.....soooo.....endlessly serious......

 

....if you need somebody who get tears in the eyes....each time he/she

is writing some very intelligent non-sense......like you do...

 

then maybe find an institute which will take you in charge.....

 

 

Marc

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

>

> >and therfore continue to accuse imaginary others....for his

> >ignorance......

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marc!

 

How peaceful you are sounding today!

Do you expect that I take you serious? ;-)

 

Stefan

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

 

> LOL

>

> Stefan.....what do you realy expect from people in here?....

> you answer their messages.....coming from / to.... " Nobody " .....

>

> and then you expect such " Nobodies " taking the bubble of

> Stefan....sooo.....soooo.....soooo.....endlessly serious......

>

> ...if you need somebody who get tears in the eyes....each time he/she

> is writing some very intelligent non-sense......like you do...

>

> then maybe find an institute which will take you in charge.....

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Hi Marc!

>

> How peaceful you are sounding today!

> Do you expect that I take you serious? ;-)

>

> Stefan

 

 

LOL

 

no....i'm maybe little different than Stefan...

 

i don't expect anybody....taking my words serious....

 

you can do whatever you like with my words....i don't care....

 

Marc

 

 

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

>

> > LOL

> >

> > Stefan.....what do you realy expect from people in here?....

> > you answer their messages.....coming from / to.... " Nobody " .....

> >

> > and then you expect such " Nobodies " taking the bubble of

> > Stefan....sooo.....soooo.....soooo.....endlessly serious......

> >

> > ...if you need somebody who get tears in the eyes....each time

he/she

> > is writing some very intelligent non-sense......like you do...

> >

> > then maybe find an institute which will take you in charge.....

>

[Guest guest]

Marc, I do not expect

that my words are taken serious.

 

But we have a saying here in Greece:

The fox that cannot reach the grapes

is calling them " sour "

 

If you know what I mean...

 

Stefan

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

 

> LOL

>

> no....i'm maybe little different than Stefan...

>

> i don't expect anybody....taking my words serious....

>

> you can do whatever you like with my words....i don't care....

>

> Marc

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Marc, I do not expect

> that my words are taken serious.

>

> But we have a saying here in Greece:

> The fox that cannot reach the grapes

> is calling them " sour "

>

> If you know what I mean...

>

> Stefan

 

 

then explain....what You mean...

 

Marc

 

 

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

>

> > LOL

> >

> > no....i'm maybe little different than Stefan...

> >

> > i don't expect anybody....taking my words serious....

> >

> > you can do whatever you like with my words....i don't care....

> >

> > Marc

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Marc, I do not expect

> > that my words are taken serious.

> >

> > But we have a saying here in Greece:

> > The fox that cannot reach the grapes

> > is calling them " sour "

> >

> > If you know what I mean...

> >

> > Stefan

>

>

> then explain....what You mean...

>

> Marc

 

 

LOL

 

I knew you are a fox :-)

 

S.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Marc, I do not expect

> > > that my words are taken serious.

> > >

> > > But we have a saying here in Greece:

> > > The fox that cannot reach the grapes

> > > is calling them " sour "

> > >

> > > If you know what I mean...

> > >

> > > Stefan

> >

> >

> > then explain....what You mean...

> >

> > Marc

>

>

> LOL

>

> I knew you are a fox :-)

>

> S.

 

 

great!

 

 

Marc

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

 

> > I knew you are a fox :-)

> >

> > S.

>

>

> great!

>

>

>

> Marc

 

I forgot: a very peaceful fox :-)

Stefan

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

>

> > > I knew you are a fox :-)

> > >

> > > S.

> >

> >

> > great!

> >

> >

> >

> > Marc

>

> I forgot: a very peaceful fox :-)

> Stefan

>

 

....nobody else over there to play little with Stevie?...

 

 

Marc

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Ahhh, even when someone talks

> only to BABAs little friend

> he forgets all his past defeats

> and goes into defense mode again

>

> Happy birthday!

>

> Stefan

 

 

 

 

 

 

you really ARE dense aren't you.

 

that was an offensive remark i posted to you stevie.

 

you sure get things bass ackwards kid.

 

happy unbirthday to you.

 

where's your hole to run down today little rabbit?

 

and your obsession to 'get to know' me is astounding.

 

reading every profile are we steve?

 

too bad that you can never win...

 

and that you get so defensively smarmy about it...

 

in such a stupid way too, stevo.

 

with you son, there is no need of defenses.

 

you don't have anything upstairs to defend against.

 

i would be kinder in my stated true assessment of your inabilities..

 

but..it's not 'be kind to intellectually deprived children day'..

 

so my little chump:

 

swish on sweet stefie..

 

your tutu is so cute when you sashay around the issues!

 

what a sweet dance you do little girl!

 

..b b.b.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*******************************NNB************************************

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote:

> > >

> > > The only one who is accusing anybody here is

> > > " peaceful " Marc

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > that's an accusation if i ever heard one...

> >

> > coming from..

> >

> > guess where...

> >

> > 'the only one' name Stefan.

> >

> > the no one that is 'the only one'.... who's named stevie..

> >

> > IS who is accusing...

> >

> > and which said 'who'...

> >

> > is being obtuse...dull... and aphasic.

> >

> > in a word or several then, let me say:

> >

> > said recriminatory stephie is a dullard.

> >

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

[Guest guest]

Baba, are you starting this again?

 

Now you say yourself that you are offensive.

Interesting. I wonder why?

In your case it is obvious:

Offensive is the best defensive.

Boy, you have problems...

 

Stefan

 

 

Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote:

> >

> > Ahhh, even when someone talks

> > only to BABAs little friend

> > he forgets all his past defeats

> > and goes into defense mode again

> >

> > Happy birthday!

> >

> > Stefan

you really ARE dense aren't you.

>

> that was an offensive remark i posted to you stevie.

>

> you sure get things bass ackwards kid.

>

> happy unbirthday to you.

>

> where's your hole to run down today little rabbit?

>

> and your obsession to 'get to know' me is astounding.

>

> reading every profile are we steve?

>

> too bad that you can never win...

>

> and that you get so defensively smarmy about it...

>

> in such a stupid way too, stevo.

>

> with you son, there is no need of defenses.

>

> you don't have anything upstairs to defend against.

>

> i would be kinder in my stated true assessment of your inabilities..

>

> but..it's not 'be kind to intellectually deprived children day'..

>

> so my little chump:

>

> swish on sweet stefie..

>

> your tutu is so cute when you sashay around the issues!

>

> what a sweet dance you do little girl!

>

> .b b.b.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge wrote:

>

> Baba, are you starting this again?

>

> Now you say yourself that you are offensive.

> Interesting. I wonder why?

> In your case it is obvious:

> Offensive is the best defensive.

> Boy, you have problems...

>

> Stefan

 

 

delusional people ALWAYS think that their sane keepers have problems.

 

that is the problem with you stefie.

 

that's ok geisteskrankes Kind..

 

you'll never change.

 

i think thats funny!

 

and i'm sure you'll agree.

 

LOL!

 

..b bobji baba

 

'The Non Tormentor'

 

(except, but only seemingly so, for the delusional & disordered)

 

 

 

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> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Ahhh, even when someone talks

> > > only to BABAs little friend

> > > he forgets all his past defeats

> > > and goes into defense mode again

> > >

> > > Happy birthday!

> > >

> > > Stefan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > you really ARE dense aren't you.

> >

> > that was an offensive remark i posted to you stevie.

> >

> > you sure get things bass ackwards kid.

> >

> > happy unbirthday to you.

> >

> > where's your hole to run down today little rabbit?

> >

> > and your obsession to 'get to know' me is astounding.

> >

> > reading every profile are we steve?

> >

> > too bad that you can never win...

> >

> > and that you get so defensively smarmy about it...

> >

> > in such a stupid way too, stevo.

> >

> > with you son, there is no need of defenses.

> >

> > you don't have anything upstairs to defend against.

> >

> > i would be kinder in my stated true assessment of your inabilities..

> >

> > but..it's not 'be kind to intellectually deprived children day'..

> >

> > so my little chump:

> >

> > swish on sweet stefie..

> >

> > your tutu is so cute when you sashay around the issues!

> >

> > what a sweet dance you do little girl!

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Baba, are you starting this again?

>

> Now you say yourself that you are offensive.

> Interesting. I wonder why?

> In your case it is obvious:

> Offensive is the best defensive.

> Boy, you have problems...

>

> Stefan

 

 

.....i remember something about Crete....

or maybe it was on Gavdos....

 

it seem that it's very common there....that, as for example...there

are brothers living in same (smal) village....maybe only 1-2 minutes

by foot from each.....and for some reason, they no more talk to

each....waering black clothes for the rest of their life...

ignoring each completely.....for many years.......

 

.....so i imagine that they will never have any " problems " with

each....

no need of offense/defense.....

 

LOL

 

 

Marc

 

 

Ps: maybe there is other kind of problem....who knows, Stevie

 

 

 

 

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Ahhh, even when someone talks

> > > only to BABAs little friend

> > > he forgets all his past defeats

> > > and goes into defense mode again

> > >

> > > Happy birthday!

> > >

> > > Stefan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > you really ARE dense aren't you.

> >

> > that was an offensive remark i posted to you stevie.

> >

> > you sure get things bass ackwards kid.

> >

> > happy unbirthday to you.

> >

> > where's your hole to run down today little rabbit?

> >

> > and your obsession to 'get to know' me is astounding.

> >

> > reading every profile are we steve?

> >

> > too bad that you can never win...

> >

> > and that you get so defensively smarmy about it...

> >

> > in such a stupid way too, stevo.

> >

> > with you son, there is no need of defenses.

> >

> > you don't have anything upstairs to defend against.

> >

> > i would be kinder in my stated true assessment of your

inabilities..

> >

> > but..it's not 'be kind to intellectually deprived children day'..

> >

> > so my little chump:

> >

> > swish on sweet stefie..

> >

> > your tutu is so cute when you sashay around the issues!

> >

> > what a sweet dance you do little girl!

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

[Guest guest]

Marc,why are you telling this story?

Do you feel that I am such a brother?

Ar you feeling offended?

 

I did not ever want to offend you.

 

Stefan

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

 

> ....i remember something about Crete....

> or maybe it was on Gavdos....

>

> it seem that it's very common there....that, as for example...there

> are brothers living in same (smal) village....maybe only 1-2 minutes

> by foot from each.....and for some reason, they no more talk to

> each....waering black clothes for the rest of their life...

> ignoring each completely.....for many years.......

>

> ....so i imagine that they will never have any " problems " with

> each....

> no need of offense/defense.....

>

> LOL

>

>

> Marc

 

>

> Ps: maybe there is other kind of problem....who knows, Stevie

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> Marc,why are you telling this story?

> Do you feel that I am such a brother?

> Ar you feeling offended?

>

> I did not ever want to offend you.

>

> Stefan

 

 

.....no panic! Stefan.......

 

i just remembered this story.....knowing, that " You " live in

Crete.......that's all......

 

 

i told you......and wrote recently about....that peace don't need any

defense........

 

.....and so, that there is no offense to peace existing....

 

keep cool, Stefan.......everything will be fine...

 

 

Marc

 

 

 

 

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

>

> > ....i remember something about Crete....

> > or maybe it was on Gavdos....

> >

> > it seem that it's very common there....that, as for

example...there

> > are brothers living in same (smal) village....maybe only 1-2

minutes

> > by foot from each.....and for some reason, they no more talk to

> > each....waering black clothes for the rest of their life...

> > ignoring each completely.....for many years.......

> >

> > ....so i imagine that they will never have any " problems " with

> > each....

> > no need of offense/defense.....

> >

> > LOL

> >

> >

> > Marc

>

> >

> > Ps: maybe there is other kind of problem....who knows, Stevie

>