Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Who am I ? [ " who " am 'I' that can be 'enlightened' or... 'un-enlightened'?] It is ridiculous to say either 'I have not realized the Self' or 'I have realized the Self'; are there two selves, for one to be the object of the other's realization? It is a truth within the experience of everyone that there is only one Self. ~Ramana Only so long as one considers oneself bound, do thoughts of bondage and Liberation continue. When one enquires who is bound the Self is realized, eternally attained, and eternally free. When thought of bondage comes to an end, can thought of Liberation survive? ~Ramana If it is said, that Liberation is of three kinds, with form or without form or with and without form, then let me tell you that the extinction of three forms of Liberation is the only true Liberation. ~Ramana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Yes. I think its more important to first understand what enlightenment is. Dwelling on the fact that 'you' or 'I' cannot be enlightened isn't very helpful. Brian Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > > > Who am I ? > > [ " who " am 'I' that can be 'enlightened' > or... 'un-enlightened'?] > > > > > It is ridiculous to say either 'I have > not realized the Self' or 'I have > realized the Self'; are there two > selves, for one to be the object of the > other's realization? It is a truth > within the experience of everyone that > there is only one Self. > > > ~Ramana > > > Only so long as one considers oneself > bound, do thoughts of bondage and > Liberation continue. When one enquires > who is bound the Self is realized, > eternally attained, and eternally free. > When thought of bondage comes to an > end, can thought of Liberation survive? > > ~Ramana > > > > > If it is said, that Liberation is of > three kinds, with form or without form > or with and without form, then let me > tell you that the extinction of three > forms of Liberation is the only true > Liberation. > > > ~Ramana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Nisargadatta , " brian_outlier " <lake.001 wrote: > > Yes. > > I think its more important to first understand what enlightenment is. > > Dwelling on the fact that 'you' or 'I' cannot be enlightened isn't > very helpful. > > Brian enlightenment is a word beginning with 'e'..ending with 't'.. there are 9 letters in between the first and last letter. what's to 'understand'? who IS to 'understand'? what does 'understanding' even mean? please enlighten everyone.... or just one... if 'you' can find such a 'thing'... or 'grouping' of 'things' to so 'enlighten. i'm helpless here..i don't understand. if 'you' 'get' that..you've got it ALL! and 'you' ARE that " THAT " ... none other. it may seem amazing but... it's as ordinary and commonplace as knowing 'you' have to 'go'. no questions asked.. you just do it, wipe, walk away.... carry water... chop wood... chop chop.. you know? ..b b.b. ********************************NNB*********************************** > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Who am I ? > > > > [ " who " am 'I' that can be 'enlightened' > > or... 'un-enlightened'?] > > > > > > > > > > It is ridiculous to say either 'I have > > not realized the Self' or 'I have > > realized the Self'; are there two > > selves, for one to be the object of the > > other's realization? It is a truth > > within the experience of everyone that > > there is only one Self. > > > > > > ~Ramana > > > > > > Only so long as one considers oneself > > bound, do thoughts of bondage and > > Liberation continue. When one enquires > > who is bound the Self is realized, > > eternally attained, and eternally free. > > When thought of bondage comes to an > > end, can thought of Liberation survive? > > > > ~Ramana > > > > > > > > > > If it is said, that Liberation is of > > three kinds, with form or without form > > or with and without form, then let me > > tell you that the extinction of three > > forms of Liberation is the only true > > Liberation. > > > > > > ~Ramana > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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