Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Have you ever noticed that the people who praise the new non-dual books have themselves written a book? Have you noticed that they all charge money for their effort.... except UG? So............you get a glimpse of the ineffable non-dual reality.....and want to share the experience....(which in itself is a bizarre reaction - since along with the glimpse should come the understanding that there are no others.) It is all seen so clearly.....It's all so simple......but you just can't pin it down with words. So whatayagonna do?......I know.....write a book. You might start with the personal story......give them a little family history.....some childhood stuff....a little adolescent stuff....perhaps some drug and sex stuff.......make them believe that you are human.......just like them. Tell about your struggle to find the light......mention your teachers.....and how many books you have read...talk about all the countries you have been...and the money spent on techniques....and round it of with a list of your college degrees. Talk a little bit about what happened just before and just after the......event.....where you......turned inside out..... ............and lost the sense of a personal-self. Transcribe some of those early conversations that you had with your teachers and were smart enough to write down......talk about some of the conversations with those early followers that began to hang out at your house. Spread the wordless-word......advertise a web sight where the forlorn and chronically lonely can expose their pain and fear. Keep them thinking that you have something that they are looking for...(The mere fact that you wrote a book and have a web sight sets up the dynamic). Keep them a little hungry......hanging.....hoping. Smile that little child smile....all the time. Study and perfect the Mona Lisa look. Never admit that you haven't the foggiest idea what's really going on. Oh......something happened alright.......but you will never be able to coral it with words....or share it.......ever. With a little luck....you may have a gaggle of adoring sycophants spreading rose petals as you prance through your own private enlightenment......and what little attention you have been allotted.....will be focused on the dream.... and you will most certainly miss the joy and awe of being the mystery itself..... .........not to mention the royalties....(and all the things they can buy)...... from that trilogy of books. toombaru PS You may wonder why I wrote the above........and I can honestly say that I haven't the foggiest idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > Have you ever noticed that the people who praise the new non-dual > books have themselves written a book? > > Have you noticed that they all charge money for their effort.... > except UG? > > So............you get a glimpse of the ineffable non-dual > reality.....and want to share the experience....(which in itself is a > bizarre reaction - since along with the glimpse should come the > understanding that there are no others.) > > It is all seen so clearly.....It's all so simple......but you just > can't pin it down with words. > > So whatayagonna do?......I know.....write a book. > > You might start with the personal story......give them a little family > history.....some childhood stuff....a little adolescent > stuff....perhaps some drug and sex stuff.......make them believe that > you are human.......just like them. > > Tell about your struggle to find the light......mention your > teachers.....and how many books you have read...talk about all the > countries you have been...and the money spent on techniques....and > round it of with a list of your college degrees. > > Talk a little bit about what happened just before and just after > the......event.....where you......turned inside out..... > ...........and lost the sense of a personal-self. > > Transcribe some of those early conversations that you had with your > teachers and were smart enough to write down......talk about some of > the conversations with those early followers that began to hang out at > your house. > > Spread the wordless-word......advertise a web sight where the forlorn > and chronically lonely can expose their pain and fear. > > Keep them thinking that you have something that they are looking > for...(The mere fact that you wrote a book and have a web sight sets > up the dynamic). > > Keep them a little hungry......hanging.....hoping. > > Smile that little child smile....all the time. > > Study and perfect the Mona Lisa look. > > Never admit that you haven't the foggiest idea what's really going on. > > Oh......something happened alright.......but you will never be able to > coral it with words....or share it.......ever. > > With a little luck....you may have a gaggle of adoring sycophants > spreading rose petals as you prance through your own private > enlightenment......and what little attention you have been > allotted.....will be focused on the dream.... and you will most > certainly miss the joy and awe of being the mystery itself..... > > > > ........not to mention the royalties....(and all the things they can > buy)...... from that trilogy of books. > > > > toombaru > > > PS > > > You may wonder why I wrote the above........and I can honestly say > that I haven't the foggiest idea. ug doesn't charge because he's dead. when he jetted around the world to the homes of wooers and boosters.. he liked to be treated with nice food.. fine quarters... and continued financial support. his best con was the free books.. and of course his insulting attitude (i loved that one). he conned others into writing his thoughts.. buncoed them into the belief he was 'freely' available.. and lived the Life of Riley at others' expense. Alas! there are, and never were, any such beings as... the True Guru..the 'Green Qtub'.. there ever only was and are the True Believers.. and they were and are..as they say.. Ripe for the Pickings. if they ever did or do grow up.. the party's over and they join the devil in his laughter. ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa! ..b bobji baba p.s. in the hopes this clears away that fogginess.. and in the spirit of goodwill.. i hope this information doesn't break your heart my love! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > Have you ever noticed that the people who praise the new non-dual > books have themselves written a book? > > Have you noticed that they all charge money for their effort.... > except UG? > > So............you get a glimpse of the ineffable non-dual > reality.....and want to share the experience....(which in itself is a > bizarre reaction - since along with the glimpse should come the > understanding that there are no others.) > > It is all seen so clearly.....It's all so simple......but you just > can't pin it down with words. > > So whatayagonna do?......I know.....write a book. > > You might start with the personal story......give them a little family > history.....some childhood stuff....a little adolescent > stuff....perhaps some drug and sex stuff.......make them believe that > you are human.......just like them. > > Tell about your struggle to find the light......mention your > teachers.....and how many books you have read...talk about all the > countries you have been...and the money spent on techniques....and > round it of with a list of your college degrees. > > Talk a little bit about what happened just before and just after > the......event.....where you......turned inside out..... > ...........and lost the sense of a personal-self. > > Transcribe some of those early conversations that you had with your > teachers and were smart enough to write down......talk about some of > the conversations with those early followers that began to hang out at > your house. > > Spread the wordless-word......advertise a web sight where the forlorn > and chronically lonely can expose their pain and fear. > > Keep them thinking that you have something that they are looking > for...(The mere fact that you wrote a book and have a web sight sets > up the dynamic). > > Keep them a little hungry......hanging.....hoping. > > Smile that little child smile....all the time. > > Study and perfect the Mona Lisa look. > > Never admit that you haven't the foggiest idea what's really going on. > > Oh......something happened alright.......but you will never be able to > coral it with words....or share it.......ever. > > With a little luck....you may have a gaggle of adoring sycophants > spreading rose petals as you prance through your own private > enlightenment......and what little attention you have been > allotted.....will be focused on the dream.... and you will most > certainly miss the joy and awe of being the mystery itself..... > > > > ........not to mention the royalties....(and all the things they can > buy)...... from that trilogy of books. > > > > toombaru > > > PS > > > You may wonder why I wrote the above........and I can honestly say > that I haven't the foggiest idea. > Maybe enlightenment is a house of many mansions.There are sun buddhas and moon buddhas.Most of the authors and speakers--the entrepreneurs--have had important insights but most of their lives are still spent awelessly, in separation and its' attendant hopes and fears.I honor them for their high moments--but not with my moola.Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > Have you ever noticed that the people who praise the new non-dual > books have themselves written a book? > > Have you noticed that they all charge money for their effort.... > except UG? > > So............you get a glimpse of the ineffable non-dual > reality.....and want to share the experience....(which in itself is a > bizarre reaction - since along with the glimpse should come the > understanding that there are no others.) > > It is all seen so clearly.....It's all so simple......but you just > can't pin it down with words. > > So whatayagonna do?......I know.....write a book. > > You might start with the personal story......give them a little family > history.....some childhood stuff....a little adolescent > stuff....perhaps some drug and sex stuff.......make them believe that > you are human.......just like them. > > Tell about your struggle to find the light......mention your > teachers.....and how many books you have read...talk about all the > countries you have been...and the money spent on techniques....and > round it of with a list of your college degrees. > > Talk a little bit about what happened just before and just after > the......event.....where you......turned inside out..... > ...........and lost the sense of a personal-self. > > Transcribe some of those early conversations that you had with your > teachers and were smart enough to write down......talk about some of > the conversations with those early followers that began to hang out at > your house. > > Spread the wordless-word......advertise a web sight where the forlorn > and chronically lonely can expose their pain and fear. > > Keep them thinking that you have something that they are looking > for...(The mere fact that you wrote a book and have a web sight sets > up the dynamic). > > Keep them a little hungry......hanging.....hoping. > > Smile that little child smile....all the time. > > Study and perfect the Mona Lisa look. > > Never admit that you haven't the foggiest idea what's really going on. > > Oh......something happened alright.......but you will never be able to > coral it with words....or share it.......ever. > > With a little luck....you may have a gaggle of adoring sycophants > spreading rose petals as you prance through your own private > enlightenment......and what little attention you have been > allotted.....will be focused on the dream.... and you will most > certainly miss the joy and awe of being the mystery itself..... > > > > ........not to mention the royalties....(and all the things they can > buy)...... from that trilogy of books. > > > > toombaru > > > PS > > > You may wonder why I wrote the above........and I can honestly say > that I haven't the foggiest idea. thinking about......to write a book?.... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > Have you ever noticed that the people who praise the new non-dual > > books have themselves written a book? > > > > Have you noticed that they all charge money for their effort.... > > except UG? > > > > So............you get a glimpse of the ineffable non-dual > > reality.....and want to share the experience....(which in itself is > a > > bizarre reaction - since along with the glimpse should come the > > understanding that there are no others.) > > > > It is all seen so clearly.....It's all so simple......but you just > > can't pin it down with words. > > > > So whatayagonna do?......I know.....write a book. > > > > You might start with the personal story......give them a little > family > > history.....some childhood stuff....a little adolescent > > stuff....perhaps some drug and sex stuff.......make them believe > that > > you are human.......just like them. > > > > Tell about your struggle to find the light......mention your > > teachers.....and how many books you have read...talk about all the > > countries you have been...and the money spent on techniques....and > > round it of with a list of your college degrees. > > > > Talk a little bit about what happened just before and just after > > the......event.....where you......turned inside out..... > > ...........and lost the sense of a personal-self. > > > > Transcribe some of those early conversations that you had with your > > teachers and were smart enough to write down......talk about some of > > the conversations with those early followers that began to hang out > at > > your house. > > > > Spread the wordless-word......advertise a web sight where the > forlorn > > and chronically lonely can expose their pain and fear. > > > > Keep them thinking that you have something that they are looking > > for...(The mere fact that you wrote a book and have a web sight sets > > up the dynamic). > > > > Keep them a little hungry......hanging.....hoping. > > > > Smile that little child smile....all the time. > > > > Study and perfect the Mona Lisa look. > > > > Never admit that you haven't the foggiest idea what's really going > on. > > > > Oh......something happened alright.......but you will never be able > to > > coral it with words....or share it.......ever. > > > > With a little luck....you may have a gaggle of adoring sycophants > > spreading rose petals as you prance through your own private > > enlightenment......and what little attention you have been > > allotted.....will be focused on the dream.... and you will most > > certainly miss the joy and awe of being the mystery itself..... > > > > > > > > ........not to mention the royalties....(and all the things they can > > buy)...... from that trilogy of books. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > PS > > > > > > You may wonder why I wrote the above........and I can honestly say > > that I haven't the foggiest idea. > > > > > thinking about......to write a book?.... > > > > Marc > > Ps: did you forget,....that there is only One writer existing.......?......trying to express Himself......by many many many ways........ one of the funniest ways is.......trying to make fun of/about oneSelf..... .....non-dualists....often......are real experts in such occupation....... lol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Have you ever noticed that the people who praise the new non-dual > > > books have themselves written a book? > > > > > > Have you noticed that they all charge money for their effort.... > > > except UG? > > > > > > So............you get a glimpse of the ineffable non-dual > > > reality.....and want to share the experience....(which in itself > is > > a > > > bizarre reaction - since along with the glimpse should come the > > > understanding that there are no others.) > > > > > > It is all seen so clearly.....It's all so simple......but you just > > > can't pin it down with words. > > > > > > So whatayagonna do?......I know.....write a book. > > > > > > You might start with the personal story......give them a little > > family > > > history.....some childhood stuff....a little adolescent > > > stuff....perhaps some drug and sex stuff.......make them believe > > that > > > you are human.......just like them. > > > > > > Tell about your struggle to find the light......mention your > > > teachers.....and how many books you have read...talk about all the > > > countries you have been...and the money spent on techniques....and > > > round it of with a list of your college degrees. > > > > > > Talk a little bit about what happened just before and just after > > > the......event.....where you......turned inside out..... > > > ...........and lost the sense of a personal-self. > > > > > > Transcribe some of those early conversations that you had with > your > > > teachers and were smart enough to write down......talk about some > of > > > the conversations with those early followers that began to hang > out > > at > > > your house. > > > > > > Spread the wordless-word......advertise a web sight where the > > forlorn > > > and chronically lonely can expose their pain and fear. > > > > > > Keep them thinking that you have something that they are looking > > > for...(The mere fact that you wrote a book and have a web sight > sets > > > up the dynamic). > > > > > > Keep them a little hungry......hanging.....hoping. > > > > > > Smile that little child smile....all the time. > > > > > > Study and perfect the Mona Lisa look. > > > > > > Never admit that you haven't the foggiest idea what's really > going > > on. > > > > > > Oh......something happened alright.......but you will never be > able > > to > > > coral it with words....or share it.......ever. > > > > > > With a little luck....you may have a gaggle of adoring sycophants > > > spreading rose petals as you prance through your own private > > > enlightenment......and what little attention you have been > > > allotted.....will be focused on the dream.... and you will most > > > certainly miss the joy and awe of being the mystery itself..... > > > > > > > > > > > > ........not to mention the royalties....(and all the things they > can > > > buy)...... from that trilogy of books. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > PS > > > > > > > > > You may wonder why I wrote the above........and I can honestly say > > > that I haven't the foggiest idea. > > > > > > > > > > thinking about......to write a book?.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Ps: did you forget,....that there is only One writer > existing.......?......trying to express Himself......by many many > many ways........ Do you suppose that the " One Writer " idea is merely one more attempt by the conceptual mind to create a god? Do you think that the thinking mind naturally attempts to scruch all of concepts into an imagined " oneness " in an effort to define its own imagined origin? What if none of that were true? What if reality is not available through thought? Could you live with that? > > one of the funniest ways is.......trying to make fun of/about > oneSelf..... I tend to believe that that is a way to relieve the tension that results from the inherent confusion. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever noticed that the people who praise the new non-dual > > > > books have themselves written a book? > > > > > > > > Have you noticed that they all charge money for their effort.... > > > > except UG? > > > > > > > > So............you get a glimpse of the ineffable non-dual > > > > reality.....and want to share the experience....(which in itself > > is > > > a > > > > bizarre reaction - since along with the glimpse should come the > > > > understanding that there are no others.) > > > > > > > > It is all seen so clearly.....It's all so simple......but you just > > > > can't pin it down with words. > > > > > > > > So whatayagonna do?......I know.....write a book. > > > > > > > > You might start with the personal story......give them a little > > > family > > > > history.....some childhood stuff....a little adolescent > > > > stuff....perhaps some drug and sex stuff.......make them believe > > > that > > > > you are human.......just like them. > > > > > > > > Tell about your struggle to find the light......mention your > > > > teachers.....and how many books you have read...talk about all the > > > > countries you have been...and the money spent on techniques....and > > > > round it of with a list of your college degrees. > > > > > > > > Talk a little bit about what happened just before and just after > > > > the......event.....where you......turned inside out..... > > > > ...........and lost the sense of a personal-self. > > > > > > > > Transcribe some of those early conversations that you had with > > your > > > > teachers and were smart enough to write down......talk about some > > of > > > > the conversations with those early followers that began to hang > > out > > > at > > > > your house. > > > > > > > > Spread the wordless-word......advertise a web sight where the > > > forlorn > > > > and chronically lonely can expose their pain and fear. > > > > > > > > Keep them thinking that you have something that they are looking > > > > for...(The mere fact that you wrote a book and have a web sight > > sets > > > > up the dynamic). > > > > > > > > Keep them a little hungry......hanging.....hoping. > > > > > > > > Smile that little child smile....all the time. > > > > > > > > Study and perfect the Mona Lisa look. > > > > > > > > Never admit that you haven't the foggiest idea what's really > > going > > > on. > > > > > > > > Oh......something happened alright.......but you will never be > > able > > > to > > > > coral it with words....or share it.......ever. > > > > > > > > With a little luck....you may have a gaggle of adoring sycophants > > > > spreading rose petals as you prance through your own private > > > > enlightenment......and what little attention you have been > > > > allotted.....will be focused on the dream.... and you will most > > > > certainly miss the joy and awe of being the mystery itself..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........not to mention the royalties....(and all the things they > > can > > > > buy)...... from that trilogy of books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > PS > > > > > > > > > > > > You may wonder why I wrote the above........and I can honestly say > > > > that I haven't the foggiest idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking about......to write a book?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > Ps: did you forget,....that there is only One writer > > existing.......?......trying to express Himself......by many many > > many ways........ Do you suppose that the " One Writer " idea is merely one more attempt > by the conceptual mind to create a god? > > Do you think that the thinking mind naturally attempts to scruch all > of concepts into an imagined " oneness " in an effort to define its own > imagined origin? evidently that's what 'you' think. does that thinking comfort you? silly goose! > What if none of that were true? so....... what? > What if reality is not available through thought? what if thought is not available through reality? > Could you live with that? 'you' doesn't 'live'. 'you' live not... but " THAT " lives in 'you'. can you die with that? one small step for a 'you'... one giant non-leap for a nothing into Nothing. > > one of the funniest ways is.......trying to make fun of/about > > oneSelf..... > > > > > > I tend to believe that that is a way to relieve the tension that > results from the inherent confusion. toombaru just drop the unneeded. that is the one needful thing. confusion is neither inherent nor a cause of tension. who is there to be confused and what is there to be tense about? lose those illusions and All Will Be Well.. in fact...it always and already is. pax vobiscum...pacis exsisto vobis....vos es pacis ipsum ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 .b bobji baba <Roberibus111Nisargadatta Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 9:14:56 PM Re: A New Book Nisargadatta, "toombaru2006" <lastrain@.. .> wrote:>> Nisargadatta, "dennis_travis33"> <dennis_travis33@ > wrote:> >> > Nisargadatta, "dennis_travis33" > > <dennis_travis33@ > wrote:> > >> > > Nisargadatta, "toombaru2006" <lastrain@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Have you ever noticed that the people who praise the new non-dual> > > > books have themselves written a book?> > > > > > > > Have you noticed that they all charge money for their effort....> > > > except UG?> > > > > > > > So.......... ..you get a glimpse of the ineffable non-dual> > > > reality..... and want to share the experience.. ..(which in itself > > is > > > a> > > > bizarre reaction - since along with the glimpse should come the> > > > understanding that there are no others.)> > > > > > > > It is all seen so clearly..... It's all so simple...... but you just> > > > can't pin it down with words.> > > > > > > > So whatayagonna do?......I know.....write a book.> > > > > > > > You might start with the personal story......give them a little > > > family> > > > history..... some childhood stuff....a little adolescent> > > > stuff....perhaps some drug and sex stuff....... make them believe > > > that> > > > you are human....... just like them.> > > > > > > > Tell about your struggle to find the light......mention your> > > > teachers.... ..and how many books you have read...talk about all the> > > > countries you have been...and the money spent on techniques.. ..and> > > > round it of with a list of your college degrees.> > > > > > > > Talk a little bit about what happened just before and just after> > > > the......event. ....where you......turned inside out.....> > > > ...........and lost the sense of a personal-self.> > > > > > > > Transcribe some of those early conversations that you had with > > your> > > > teachers and were smart enough to write down......talk about some > > of> > > > the conversations with those early followers that began to hang > > out > > > at> > > > your house.> > > > > > > > Spread the wordless-word. .....advertise a web sight where the > > > forlorn > > > > and chronically lonely can expose their pain and fear.> > > > > > > > Keep them thinking that you have something that they are looking> > > > for...(The mere fact that you wrote a book and have a web sight > > sets> > > > up the dynamic).> > > > > > > > Keep them a little hungry...... hanging.. ...hoping.> > > > > > > > Smile that little child smile....all the time.> > > > > > > > Study and perfect the Mona Lisa look.> > > > > > > > Never admit that you haven't the foggiest idea what's really > > going > > > on.> > > > > > > > Oh......something happened alright..... ..but you will never be > > able > > > to> > > > coral it with words....or share it.......ever.> > > > > > > > With a little luck....you may have a gaggle of adoring sycophants> > > > spreading rose petals as you prance through your own private> > > > enlightenment. .....and what little attention you have been> > > > allotted.... .will be focused on the dream.... and you will most> > > > certainly miss the joy and awe of being the mystery itself.....> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........not to mention the royalties... .(and all the things they > > can> > > > buy)...... from that trilogy of books.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru> > > > > > > > > > > > PS> > > > > > > > > > > > You may wonder why I wrote the above....... .and I can honestly say> > > > that I haven't the foggiest idea.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking about......to write a book?....> > > > > > > > > > > > Marc> > > >> > > > > > Ps: did you forget,....that there is only One writer > > existing.... ...?..... .trying to express Himself..... .by many many > > many ways........> > > > > > > Do you suppose that the "One Writer" idea is merely one more attempt> by the conceptual mind to create a god?> > Do you think that the thinking mind naturally attempts to scruch all> of concepts into an imagined "oneness" in an effort to define its own> imagined origin?evidently that's what 'you' think.does that thinking comfort you?silly goose!> What if none of that were true?so....... what?> What if reality is not available through thought?what if thought is not available through reality?> Could you live with that?'you' doesn't 'live'.'you' live not... but "THAT" lives in 'you'.can you die with that?one small step for a 'you'...one giant non-leap for a nothing into Nothing.> > one of the funniest ways is.......trying to make fun of/about > > oneSelf.....> > > > > > I tend to believe that that is a way to relieve the tension that> results from the inherent confusion.> > > > > > > toombarujust drop the unneeded.that is the one needful thing.confusion is neither inherent nor a cause of tension.who is there to be confused and what is there to be tense about?lose those illusions and All Will Be Well..in fact...it always and already is.pax vobiscum...pacis exsisto vobis....vos es pacis ipsum.b b..b. _______-----------------________----------------- dear b.b.b (the name makes me smile always what is needed and what is not needed ? arent all these processes to mess up the thoughts further.. as long something needed and not needed exists, there is confusion, how do you know which one is right? or wrong ? what does it matter? what is needed will stay no matter how much you deny it and whatever is not needed will go away, as much as you might hold on it. just live in the moment without clinging to any thought. hey btw what did ya mean with that last line, me no understand, english plz. 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Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 I have no problem with book writers that charge for their product. The public always has the choice to simply not purchasing them. Books are one thing that are relatively cheap and possibly even free to use from a library. I don't see any deception involved. Brian Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > Have you ever noticed that the people who praise the new non-dual > books have themselves written a book? > > Have you noticed that they all charge money for their effort.... > except UG? > > So............you get a glimpse of the ineffable non-dual > reality.....and want to share the experience....(which in itself is a > bizarre reaction - since along with the glimpse should come the > understanding that there are no others.) > > It is all seen so clearly.....It's all so simple......but you just > can't pin it down with words. > > So whatayagonna do?......I know.....write a book. > > You might start with the personal story......give them a little family > history.....some childhood stuff....a little adolescent > stuff....perhaps some drug and sex stuff.......make them believe that > you are human.......just like them. > > Tell about your struggle to find the light......mention your > teachers.....and how many books you have read...talk about all the > countries you have been...and the money spent on techniques....and > round it of with a list of your college degrees. > > Talk a little bit about what happened just before and just after > the......event.....where you......turned inside out..... > ...........and lost the sense of a personal-self. > > Transcribe some of those early conversations that you had with your > teachers and were smart enough to write down......talk about some of > the conversations with those early followers that began to hang out at > your house. > > Spread the wordless-word......advertise a web sight where the forlorn > and chronically lonely can expose their pain and fear. > > Keep them thinking that you have something that they are looking > for...(The mere fact that you wrote a book and have a web sight sets > up the dynamic). > > Keep them a little hungry......hanging.....hoping. > > Smile that little child smile....all the time. > > Study and perfect the Mona Lisa look. > > Never admit that you haven't the foggiest idea what's really going on. > > Oh......something happened alright.......but you will never be able to > coral it with words....or share it.......ever. > > With a little luck....you may have a gaggle of adoring sycophants > spreading rose petals as you prance through your own private > enlightenment......and what little attention you have been > allotted.....will be focused on the dream.... and you will most > certainly miss the joy and awe of being the mystery itself..... > > > > ........not to mention the royalties....(and all the things they can > buy)...... from that trilogy of books. > > > > toombaru > > > PS > > > You may wonder why I wrote the above........and I can honestly say > that I haven't the foggiest idea. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Nisargadatta , " brian_outlier " <lake.001 wrote: > > I have no problem with book writers that charge for their product. The > public always has the choice to simply not purchasing them. Books are > one thing that are relatively cheap and possibly even free to use from > a library. > > I don't see any deception involved. > > Brian > They offer a cure for a disease that does not exist. The product of deception cannot ever see deception. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Nisargadatta , rubaiyyat <rubaiyyat6 wrote: > > > .b bobji baba <Roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, October 15, 2007 9:14:56 PM > Re: A New Book > > Nisargadatta, " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@ .> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta, " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@ > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta, " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta, " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever noticed that the people who praise the new non-dual > > > > > books have themselves written a book? > > > > > > > > > > Have you noticed that they all charge money for their effort.... > > > > > except UG? > > > > > > > > > > So.......... ..you get a glimpse of the ineffable non-dual > > > > > reality..... and want to share the experience.. ..(which in itself > > > is > > > > a > > > > > bizarre reaction - since along with the glimpse should come the > > > > > understanding that there are no others.) > > > > > > > > > > It is all seen so clearly..... It's all so simple....... but you just > > > > > can't pin it down with words. > > > > > > > > > > So whatayagonna do?......I know.....write a book. > > > > > > > > > > You might start with the personal story......give them a little > > > > family > > > > > history..... some childhood stuff....a little adolescent > > > > > stuff....perhaps some drug and sex stuff....... make them believe > > > > that > > > > > you are human....... just like them. > > > > > > > > > > Tell about your struggle to find the light......mention your > > > > > teachers.... .and how many books you have read...talk about all the > > > > > countries you have been...and the money spent on techniques.. ..and > > > > > round it of with a list of your college degrees. > > > > > > > > > > Talk a little bit about what happened just before and just after > > > > > the......event. ....where you......turned inside out..... > > > > > ............and lost the sense of a personal-self. > > > > > > > > > > Transcribe some of those early conversations that you had with > > > your > > > > > teachers and were smart enough to write down......talk about some > > > of > > > > > the conversations with those early followers that began to hang > > > out > > > > at > > > > > your house. > > > > > > > > > > Spread the wordless-word. .....advertise a web sight where the > > > > forlorn > > > > > and chronically lonely can expose their pain and fear. > > > > > > > > > > Keep them thinking that you have something that they are looking > > > > > for...(The mere fact that you wrote a book and have a web sight > > > sets > > > > > up the dynamic). > > > > > > > > > > Keep them a little hungry...... hanging.. ...hoping. > > > > > > > > > > Smile that little child smile....all the time. > > > > > > > > > > Study and perfect the Mona Lisa look. > > > > > > > > > > Never admit that you haven't the foggiest idea what's really > > > going > > > > on. > > > > > > > > > > Oh.......something happened alright..... ..but you will never be > > > able > > > > to > > > > > coral it with words....or share it.......ever. > > > > > > > > > > With a little luck....you may have a gaggle of adoring sycophants > > > > > spreading rose petals as you prance through your own private > > > > > enlightenment. .....and what little attention you have been > > > > > allotted.... .will be focused on the dream.... and you will most > > > > > certainly miss the joy and awe of being the mystery itself..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........not to mention the royalties.... .(and all the things they > > > can > > > > > buy)...... from that trilogy of books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may wonder why I wrote the above....... .and I can honestly say > > > > > that I haven't the foggiest idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking about......to write a book?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: did you forget,....that there is only One writer > > > existing.... ...?..... .trying to express Himself..... .by many many > > > many ways........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you suppose that the " One Writer " idea is merely one more attempt > > by the conceptual mind to create a god? > > > > Do you think that the thinking mind naturally attempts to scruch all > > of concepts into an imagined " oneness " in an effort to define its own > > imagined origin? > > evidently that's what 'you' think. > > does that thinking comfort you? > > silly goose! > > > What if none of that were true? > > so....... what? > > > What if reality is not available through thought? > > what if thought is not available through reality? > > > Could you live with that? > > 'you' doesn't 'live'. > > 'you' live not... but " THAT " lives in 'you'. > > can you die with that? > > one small step for a 'you'... > > one giant non-leap for a nothing into Nothing. > > > > one of the funniest ways is.......trying to make fun of/about > > > oneSelf..... > > > > > > > > > > > > I tend to believe that that is a way to relieve the tension that > > results from the inherent confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > just drop the unneeded. > > that is the one needful thing. > > confusion is neither inherent nor a cause of tension. > > who is there to be confused and what is there to be tense about? > > lose those illusions and All Will Be Well.. > > in fact...it always and already is. > > pax vobiscum...pacis exsisto vobis....vos es pacis ipsum > > .b b.b. > _______-----------------________----------------- > dear b.b.b (the name makes me smile always > what is needed and what is not needed ? only nothing.. not the word..nor concept..nor the 'other than something' only nothing is needed.... that's all there IS. words fail..no question about that. > arent all these processes to mess up the thoughts further.. > as long something needed and not needed exists, there is confusion, how do you know which one is right? or wrong ? there is no right nor wrong. thoughts are illusions belonging to no one.. coming from and going to nowhere. judge not lest ye be..so forth and so on. what confusion? 'things' are as they are.... and as they are not. only a 'wind'... a jazzy emptiness.. of unfulfillable and unfilled capacity... Simplicity and Identity. THAT is All. > what does it matter? what is needed will stay no matter how much you deny it and whatever is not needed will go away, as much as you might hold on it. It matters not at all! there is nothing denied but denial. denial of the vacuity of what 'seems to be'..yet which IS not. baba MUST deny this. this is far from Truth and not at all " THAT " . only " THAT " IS. just live in the moment without clinging to any thought. > hey btw what did ya mean with that last line, me no understand, english plz. > there is nothing to cling to from the first. grasping the wind, with the wind, would be more possible. ...and even more darkly..but TRUE.. there is no 'self' that lives let alone who or which 'clings'. this is hard to believe... but all belief must be left behind.. SEE where things stand from the first and for all time. 'you' are none other. pax vobiscum... peace be with 'you'.. pacis exsisto vobis.... peace emerges with 'you'.. vos es pacis ipsum 'you' are Peace Itself. ..b bobji baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever noticed that the people who praise the new non- dual > > > > books have themselves written a book? > > > > > > > > Have you noticed that they all charge money for their effort.... > > > > except UG? > > > > > > > > So............you get a glimpse of the ineffable non-dual > > > > reality.....and want to share the experience....(which in itself > > is > > > a > > > > bizarre reaction - since along with the glimpse should come the > > > > understanding that there are no others.) > > > > > > > > It is all seen so clearly.....It's all so simple......but you just > > > > can't pin it down with words. > > > > > > > > So whatayagonna do?......I know.....write a book. > > > > > > > > You might start with the personal story......give them a little > > > family > > > > history.....some childhood stuff....a little adolescent > > > > stuff....perhaps some drug and sex stuff.......make them believe > > > that > > > > you are human.......just like them. > > > > > > > > Tell about your struggle to find the light......mention your > > > > teachers.....and how many books you have read...talk about all the > > > > countries you have been...and the money spent on techniques....and > > > > round it of with a list of your college degrees. > > > > > > > > Talk a little bit about what happened just before and just after > > > > the......event.....where you......turned inside out..... > > > > ...........and lost the sense of a personal-self. > > > > > > > > Transcribe some of those early conversations that you had with > > your > > > > teachers and were smart enough to write down......talk about some > > of > > > > the conversations with those early followers that began to hang > > out > > > at > > > > your house. > > > > > > > > Spread the wordless-word......advertise a web sight where the > > > forlorn > > > > and chronically lonely can expose their pain and fear. > > > > > > > > Keep them thinking that you have something that they are looking > > > > for...(The mere fact that you wrote a book and have a web sight > > sets > > > > up the dynamic). > > > > > > > > Keep them a little hungry......hanging.....hoping. > > > > > > > > Smile that little child smile....all the time. > > > > > > > > Study and perfect the Mona Lisa look. > > > > > > > > Never admit that you haven't the foggiest idea what's really > > going > > > on. > > > > > > > > Oh......something happened alright.......but you will never be > > able > > > to > > > > coral it with words....or share it.......ever. > > > > > > > > With a little luck....you may have a gaggle of adoring sycophants > > > > spreading rose petals as you prance through your own private > > > > enlightenment......and what little attention you have been > > > > allotted.....will be focused on the dream.... and you will most > > > > certainly miss the joy and awe of being the mystery itself..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........not to mention the royalties....(and all the things they > > can > > > > buy)...... from that trilogy of books. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > PS > > > > > > > > > > > > You may wonder why I wrote the above........and I can honestly say > > > > that I haven't the foggiest idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking about......to write a book?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > Ps: did you forget,....that there is only One writer > > existing.......?......trying to express Himself......by many many > > many ways........ Do you suppose that the " One Writer " idea is merely one more attempt > by the conceptual mind to create a god? > > Do you think that the thinking mind naturally attempts to scruch all > of concepts into an imagined " oneness " in an effort to define its own > imagined origin? > > What if none of that were true? > > What if reality is not available through thought? > > Could you live with that? .....who is talking about god?.... who is it.....who is lost in conceptual talk....? ....i don't care about....thoughts... could you understand.....that? > > > one of the funniest ways is.......trying to make fun of/about > > oneSelf..... > > > > > > I tend to believe that that is a way to relieve the tension that > results from the inherent confusion. .....you know exactly what you are talking about... good... toombaru > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 b.b.b. you are humble today! is all well ? rubaiyyat".b bobji baba" <Roberibus111 wrote: Nisargadatta , rubaiyyat <rubaiyyat6 wrote:>> > .b bobji baba <Roberibus111> Nisargadatta > Monday, October 15, 2007 9:14:56 PM> Re: A New Book> > Nisargadatta, "toombaru2006" <lastrain@ .>wrote:> >> > Nisargadatta, "dennis_travis33"> > <dennis_travis33@ > wrote:> > >> > > Nisargadatta, "dennis_travis33" > > > <dennis_travis33@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Nisargadatta, "toombaru2006" <lastrain@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Have you ever noticed that the people who praise the newnon-dual> > > > > books have themselves written a book?> > > > > > > > > > Have you noticed that they all charge money for their effort....> > > > > except UG?> > > > > > > > > > So.......... ..you get a glimpse of the ineffable non-dual> > > > > reality..... and want to share the experience.. ..(which initself > > > is > > > > a> > > > > bizarre reaction - since along with the glimpse should come the> > > > > understanding that there are no others.)> > > > > > > > > > It is all seen so clearly..... It's all so simple....... butyou just> > > > > can't pin it down with words.> > > > > > > > > > So whatayagonna do?......I know.....write a book.> > > > > > > > > > You might start with the personal story......give them a little > > > > family> > > > > history..... some childhood stuff....a little adolescent> > > > > stuff....perhaps some drug and sex stuff....... make thembelieve > > > > that> > > > > you are human....... just like them.> > > > > > > > > > Tell about your struggle to find the light......mention your> > > > > teachers.... .and how many books you have read...talk aboutall the> > > > > countries you have been...and the money spent ontechniques.. ..and> > > > > round it of with a list of your college degrees.> > > > > > > > > > Talk a little bit about what happened just before and just after> > > > > the......event. ....where you......turned inside out.....> > > > > ............and lost the sense of a personal-self.> > > > > > > > > > Transcribe some of those early conversations that you had with > > > your> > > > > teachers and were smart enough to write down......talk aboutsome > > > of> > > > > the conversations with those early followers that began to hang > > > out > > > > at> > > > > your house.> > > > > > > > > > Spread the wordless-word. .....advertise a web sight where the > > > > forlorn > > > > > and chronically lonely can expose their pain and fear.> > > > > > > > > > Keep them thinking that you have something that they are looking> > > > > for...(The mere fact that you wrote a book and have a web sight > > > sets> > > > > up the dynamic).> > > > > > > > > > Keep them a little hungry...... hanging.. ...hoping.> > > > > > > > > > Smile that little child smile....all the time.> > > > > > > > > > Study and perfect the Mona Lisa look.> > > > > > > > > > Never admit that you haven't the foggiest idea what's really > > > going > > > > on.> > > > > > > > > > Oh.......something happened alright..... ..but you willnever be > > > able > > > > to> > > > > coral it with words....or share it.......ever.> > > > > > > > > > With a little luck....you may have a gaggle of adoringsycophants> > > > > spreading rose petals as you prance through your own private> > > > > enlightenment. .....and what little attention you have been> > > > > allotted.... .will be focused on the dream.... and you will most> > > > > certainly miss the joy and awe of being the mystery itself.....> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........not to mention the royalties.... .(and all thethings they > > > can> > > > > buy)...... from that trilogy of books.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may wonder why I wrote the above....... .and I canhonestly say> > > > > that I haven't the foggiest idea.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking about......to write a book?....> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc> > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ps: did you forget,....that there is only One writer > > > existing.... ...?..... .trying to express Himself..... .by manymany > > > many ways........> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you suppose that the "One Writer" idea is merely one more attempt> > by the conceptual mind to create a god?> > > > Do you think that the thinking mind naturally attempts to scruch all> > of concepts into an imagined "oneness" in an effort to define its own> > imagined origin?> > evidently that's what 'you' think.> > does that thinking comfort you?> > silly goose!> > > What if none of that were true?> > so....... what?> > > What if reality is not available through thought?> > what if thought is not available through reality?> > > Could you live with that?> > 'you' doesn't 'live'.> > 'you' live not... but "THAT" lives in 'you'.> > can you die with that?> > one small step for a 'you'...> > one giant non-leap for a nothing into Nothing.> > > > one of the funniest ways is.......trying to make fun of/about > > > oneSelf.....> > > > > > > > > > > > I tend to believe that that is a way to relieve the tension that> > results from the inherent confusion.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru> > just drop the unneeded.> > that is the one needful thing.> > confusion is neither inherent nor a cause of tension.> > who is there to be confused and what is there to be tense about?> > lose those illusions and All Will Be Well..> > in fact...it always and already is.> > pax vobiscum...pacis exsisto vobis....vos es pacis ipsum> > .b b.b.> _______-----------------________-----------------> dear b.b.b (the name makes me smile always > what is needed and what is not needed ?only nothing..not the word..nor concept..nor the 'other than something'only nothing is needed....that's all there IS.words fail..no question about that.> arent all these processes to mess up the thoughts further..> as long something needed and not needed exists, there is confusion,how do you know which one is right? or wrong ?there is no right nor wrong.thoughts are illusions belonging to no one..coming from and going to nowhere.judge not lest ye be..so forth and so on.what confusion?'things' are as they are.... and as they are not.only a 'wind'...a jazzy emptiness..of unfulfillable and unfilled capacity...Simplicity and Identity.THAT is All.> what does it matter? what is needed will stay no matter how much youdeny it and whatever is not needed will go away, as much as you mighthold on it.It matters not at all!there is nothing denied but denial.denial of the vacuity of what 'seems to be'..yet which IS not.baba MUST deny this.this is far from Truth and not at all "THAT".only "THAT" IS.just live in the moment without clinging to any thought.> hey btw what did ya mean with that last line, me no understand,english plz.> ;)there is nothing to cling to from the first.grasping the wind, with the wind, would be more possible...and even more darkly..but TRUE..there is no 'self' that lives let alone who or which 'clings'.this is hard to believe...but all belief must be left behind..SEE where things stand from the first and for all time.'you' are none other.pax vobiscum...peace be with 'you'..pacis exsisto vobis....peace emerges with 'you'..vos es pacis ipsum'you' are Peace Itself..b bobji baba Tonight's top picks. 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Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > Have you ever noticed that the people who praise the new non-dual > books have themselves written a book? > > Have you noticed that they all charge money for their effort.... > except UG? > > So............you get a glimpse of the ineffable non-dual > reality.....and want to share the experience....(which in itself is a > bizarre reaction - since along with the glimpse should come the > understanding that there are no others.) > > It is all seen so clearly.....It's all so simple......but you just > can't pin it down with words. > > So whatayagonna do?......I know.....write a book. > > You might start with the personal story......give them a little family > history.....some childhood stuff....a little adolescent > stuff....perhaps some drug and sex stuff.......make them believe that > you are human.......just like them. > > Tell about your struggle to find the light......mention your > teachers.....and how many books you have read...talk about all the > countries you have been...and the money spent on techniques....and > round it of with a list of your college degrees. > > Talk a little bit about what happened just before and just after > the......event.....where you......turned inside out..... > ...........and lost the sense of a personal-self. > > Transcribe some of those early conversations that you had with your > teachers and were smart enough to write down......talk about some of > the conversations with those early followers that began to hang out at > your house. > > Spread the wordless-word......advertise a web sight where the forlorn > and chronically lonely can expose their pain and fear. > > Keep them thinking that you have something that they are looking > for...(The mere fact that you wrote a book and have a web sight sets > up the dynamic). > > Keep them a little hungry......hanging.....hoping. > > Smile that little child smile....all the time. > > Study and perfect the Mona Lisa look. > > Never admit that you haven't the foggiest idea what's really going on. > > Oh......something happened alright.......but you will never be able to > coral it with words....or share it.......ever. > > With a little luck....you may have a gaggle of adoring sycophants > spreading rose petals as you prance through your own private > enlightenment......and what little attention you have been > allotted.....will be focused on the dream.... and you will most > certainly miss the joy and awe of being the mystery itself..... > > > > ........not to mention the royalties....(and all the things they can > buy)...... from that trilogy of books. > > > > toombaru > > > PS > > > You may wonder why I wrote the above........and I can honestly say > that I haven't the foggiest idea. > Missed and or unfinished ambitions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Nisargadatta , rubaiyyat <rubaiyyat6 wrote: > > b.b.b. > > you are humble today! > > is all well ? > > > > rubaiyyat ah well... you're lame every day.. as in an everyday episodic adventure... all is never (s)well. it's " .b b.b. " not " b.b.b. " as in mathematics.... the decimal place is everything. do you need reading glasses? it's ok amigo.. baba knows where you're coming from and why. vos es a pauper perdo. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 ".b bobji baba" <Roberibus111 wrote: Nisargadatta , rubaiyyat <rubaiyyat6 wrote:>> b.b.b.> > you are humble today!> > is all well ?> > > > rubaiyyatah well...you're lame every day..as in an everyday episodic adventure...all is never (s)well.it's ".b b.b." not "b.b.b."as in mathematics....the decimal place is everything.do you need reading glasses?it's ok amigo..baba knows where you're coming from and why.vos es a pauper perdo..b b.b. tch tch tch ! baba knows nothing, what is there to know ? and even if baba did know, his "I" gets the better of him!!! where i come from and where i go, no one knows ? where you come from baba? and where are you gonna go ? its all is in the mind ! if i am lame and baba is not, then why does his ego get the better of him, if baba has sense why does he talk gibberish? btw why does baba use decimal, what does it mean by .b b.b.? regards to you lonely soul!!! Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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