J.K.: Mind is Thought

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OJAI 5TH PUBLIC TALK 30TH JULY 1949

 

You say, " I am different. " In that separate action of the mind, there

is conflict; it creates for itself an isolation, and then says, " I am

different from my thought. I must control my thought. How am I to

control it? " Such a question is not a valid question. If you think it

out, you will see that you are a bundle of interests, a bundle of

thoughts; and to choose one thought and discard the others, to choose

one interest and resist another, is still to play the trick of

separating yourself from the thought. Whereas, if you recognize that

the mind is interest, THE MIND IS THOUGHT - that there is not a

thinker and a thought - , then you will approach this problem

entirely anew. Then you will see that there is no conflict between

the thinker and the thought; then every interest has significance and

is worked out, thought out, fully, completely. Then there is no

question of a central interest from which there is distraction.

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BOMBAY 1ST PUBLIC TALK 12TH FEBRUARY, 1950

 

What is important is to under stand the total process of the

mind. We will discuss it later; but we will have to see that truth is

not some thing to be remembered. That which is remembered is of time,

it is a thing of the past, and truth can never be of the past or of

the future; truth can only be in the present, in that state where

there is no time. Time is the process of the mind, THE MIND IS

THOUGHT, and thought is the response of memory. Memory is the

experience of challenge and response, and because the response is

inadequate it creates the problem in relationship. So, the

understanding of the total process of the self lies in the

understanding of relationship in daily life; and that understanding

frees the mind from time, and there fore it is capable of

experiencing reality from moment to moment, which is not a process of

remembering - it can no longer be termed `experience', it is quite a

different state altogether. That state of being is bliss, it is not

something that you learn in books and repeat like gramophone records.

Such a man is happy, he does not repeat, for him life has no problem.

It is only the mind that creates problems.

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SAANEN 5TH PUBLIC DIALOGUE 4TH AUGUST 1974.

 

Q: You are saying the THE MIND IS THOUGHT, but if you say also

emotions, I would say yes.

K: Is the mind emotion?

Q: You have defined the mind as thought, but before the mind,

emotions and thought, then yes, anger could be the mind, a quality of

the mind.

K: If you say the mind is thought, emotion, and the recognition

of emotions, and the whole of the brain, memory, all that is the

mind, and if you say, is chastity, violence, anger the quality of

such a mind, then the lady agrees that it is the quality of the mind.

Q: It is the product of the mind.

Q: It is the mind itself, the mind is emotions.

K: That is what we are saying. Now is chastity, the word - the

word - does that denote the state of the mind? Look, I use the

word 'violence', is the word the actual fact? So the word is the

description. Let's go slowly into this. So the description is not the

described. Right? So what is the described? What is the described,

which says, " What is chastity? " You understand my question? Sirs, we

have used the word 'chastity', and in using that word we have the

various images and associations connected with that word. Obviously.

But those words, associations with their feelings, is not the

quality, is not the thing. Right?

Q: Right, right.

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BROCKWOOD PARK 23RD JUNE 1978 3RD CONVERSATION WITH PROF.BOHM,

MR.NARAYAN AND TWO BUDDHIST SCHOLARS

 

K: That's all. Therefore the mind is part of the senses, the mind is

part of the thought, emotions, certain faculties and so on and so on.

Is that outside, or the whole structure of the organism, the whole

brain, body, eyes, ears, all that is part of this mind which is the

process of thinking. No?

B: Are you saying MIND IS THOUGHT, or is it more than thought as

well?

K: I don't know but I don't want to say that. I only want to say

the mind as long as it is functioning within the field of thought is

limited.

B: You mean consciousness, the mind is that.

K: Yes, consciousness is limited.

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THE URGENCY OF CHANGE 'THE HEART AND THE MIND'

 

Our problem is the mind. To come to this point not theoretically but

to see it actually is the highest form of intelligence. For then you

do not belong to any class or religious group; then you are not a

Muslim, a Hindu, a jew or a Christian. So we now have only one issue:

why does the mind of man divide? It not only divides its own

functions into feelings and thoughts but separates itself as the " I "

from the " you " , and the " we " from the " they " . The mind and the heart

are one. Don't let us forget it. Remember it when we use the

word " mind " . So our problem is, why does the mind divide?

Questioner: Yes.

Krishnamurti: THE MIND IS THOUGHT. All the activity of thought

is separation, fragmentation. Thought is the response of memory which

is the brain. The brain must respond when it sees a danger. This is

intelligence, but this same brain has somehow been conditioned not to

see the danger of division. Its actions are valid and necessary when

they deal with facts. Equally, it will act when it sees the fact that

division and fragmentation are dangerous to it. This is not an idea

or an ideology or a principle or a concept - all of which are idiotic

and separative: it is a fact. To see danger the brain has to be very

alert and awake, all of it, not just a segment of it.