Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Just a moment to share with All Nisargadatta, writers and readers. Please. What you do or you don't do DOES count. I am reminded that the world continues to be in many escalating crises. I am reminded that crises occur individually and collectively when we don't take appropriate action, are in truth denial. Let us not argue about what truth is and is not, we all know it in our heart of hearts. We can't look away anymore because everything affects us, each and every one. If we can honestly make ourselves accountable for our own actions, we can justly make all our 'leaders' accountable for their actions. We are the internet generation, we are all inexorably linked/connected, and we've reached the saturation point. We have a choice. FOR mother earth. FOR our children. My Love is a Notion is a Nation Set me FREE! Let there be no Harm in Harmony. Peace and Light, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Just a moment to share with All Nisargadatta, writers and readers. > > Please. What you do or you don't do DOES count. I am reminded that the > world continues to be in many escalating crises. I am reminded that > crises occur individually and collectively when we don't take > appropriate action, are in truth denial. Let us not argue about what > truth is and is not, we all know it in our heart of hearts. > > We can't look away anymore because everything affects us, each and > every one. If we can honestly make ourselves accountable for our own > actions, we can justly make all our 'leaders' accountable for their > actions. > > We are the internet generation, we are all inexorably > linked/connected, and we've reached the saturation point. We have a > choice. FOR mother earth. FOR our children. > > > > My Love > is a Notion > is a Nation > > Set me FREE! > > Let there be no Harm in Harmony. > > > Peace and Light, > > Anna > I traded in my Hummers......I separate the trash........I walk to work......(sometimes)....... WHAT DO OOOO OOO YOU WANT FROM ME EE EEEEEEE? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 > > > My Love > is a Notion > is a Nation > > Set me FREE! > > Let there be no Harm in Harmony. > > > Peace and Light, > > Anna > The quality of compassion I'm afraid, is not strained Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Just a moment to share with All Nisargadatta, writers and readers. > > > > Please. What you do or you don't do DOES count. I am reminded that the > > world continues to be in many escalating crises. I am reminded that > > crises occur individually and collectively when we don't take > > appropriate action, are in truth denial. Let us not argue about what > > truth is and is not, we all know it in our heart of hearts. > > > > We can't look away anymore because everything affects us, each and > > every one. If we can honestly make ourselves accountable for our own > > actions, we can justly make all our 'leaders' accountable for their > > actions. > > > > We are the internet generation, we are all inexorably > > linked/connected, and we've reached the saturation point. We have a > > choice. FOR mother earth. FOR our children. > > > > > > > > My Love > > is a Notion > > is a Nation > > > > Set me FREE! > > > > Let there be no Harm in Harmony. > > > > > > Peace and Light, > > > > Anna > > > > > > I traded in my Hummers......I separate the trash........I walk to > work......(sometimes)....... > > > WHAT DO OOOO OOO YOU WANT FROM ME EE EEEEEEE? > > > toombaru > Toomie, I just want to be your 3 year old grandaughter, sitting on your lap. I'd know it'll be all ok. And since the truth is in here with me, there's too much suffering. And not enough of me left over to spare. A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Just a moment to share with All Nisargadatta, writers and readers. > > > > > > Please. What you do or you don't do DOES count. I am reminded that the > > > world continues to be in many escalating crises. I am reminded that > > > crises occur individually and collectively when we don't take > > > appropriate action, are in truth denial. Let us not argue about what > > > truth is and is not, we all know it in our heart of hearts. > > > > > > We can't look away anymore because everything affects us, each and > > > every one. If we can honestly make ourselves accountable for our own > > > actions, we can justly make all our 'leaders' accountable for their > > > actions. > > > > > > We are the internet generation, we are all inexorably > > > linked/connected, and we've reached the saturation point. We have a > > > choice. FOR mother earth. FOR our children. > > > > > > > > > > > > My Love > > > is a Notion > > > is a Nation > > > > > > Set me FREE! > > > > > > Let there be no Harm in Harmony. > > > > > > > > > Peace and Light, > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > I traded in my Hummers......I separate the trash........I walk to > > work......(sometimes)....... > > > > > > WHAT DO OOOO OOO YOU WANT FROM ME EE EEEEEEE? > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Toomie, I just want to be your 3 year old grandaughter, sitting on > your lap. I'd know it'll be all ok. > > And since the truth is in here with me, there's too much suffering. > And not enough of me left over to spare. > > A. > Anna, There is untold suffering in this delusional dream. One can only weep when the appearance is mistaken for reality. There is, however, an alternative....that does not involve manipulation of the illusory. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Just a moment to share with All Nisargadatta, writers and readers. > > > > > > > > Please. What you do or you don't do DOES count. I am reminded > that the > > > > world continues to be in many escalating crises. I am reminded that > > > > crises occur individually and collectively when we don't take > > > > appropriate action, are in truth denial. Let us not argue about what > > > > truth is and is not, we all know it in our heart of hearts. > > > > > > > > We can't look away anymore because everything affects us, each and > > > > every one. If we can honestly make ourselves accountable for our own > > > > actions, we can justly make all our 'leaders' accountable for their > > > > actions. > > > > > > > > We are the internet generation, we are all inexorably > > > > linked/connected, and we've reached the saturation point. We have a > > > > choice. FOR mother earth. FOR our children. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Love > > > > is a Notion > > > > is a Nation > > > > > > > > Set me FREE! > > > > > > > > Let there be no Harm in Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace and Light, > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I traded in my Hummers......I separate the trash........I walk to > > > work......(sometimes)....... > > > > > > > > > WHAT DO OOOO OOO YOU WANT FROM ME EE EEEEEEE? > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > Toomie, I just want to be your 3 year old grandaughter, sitting on > > your lap. I'd know it'll be all ok. > > > > And since the truth is in here with me, there's too much suffering. > > And not enough of me left over to spare. > > > > A. > > > > > Anna, > > There is untold suffering in this delusional dream. > > One can only weep when the appearance is mistaken for reality. > > There is, however, an alternative....that does not involve > manipulation of the illusory. > > > > toombaru > .. . . and that would be that there is no hope for human kind. Anna it seems to me that you are speaking of some noble desire for higher mind to heal lower mind,as it were. Waking up from the dream is to do no harm, and it is all one can be. Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " <joe.irrelevant wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Just a moment to share with All Nisargadatta, writers and > readers. > > > > > > > > > > Please. What you do or you don't do DOES count. I am reminded > > that the > > > > > world continues to be in many escalating crises. I am > reminded that > > > > > crises occur individually and collectively when we don't take > > > > > appropriate action, are in truth denial. Let us not argue > about what > > > > > truth is and is not, we all know it in our heart of hearts. > > > > > > > > > > We can't look away anymore because everything affects us, > each and > > > > > every one. If we can honestly make ourselves accountable for > our own > > > > > actions, we can justly make all our 'leaders' accountable for > their > > > > > actions. > > > > > > > > > > We are the internet generation, we are all inexorably > > > > > linked/connected, and we've reached the saturation point. We > have a > > > > > choice. FOR mother earth. FOR our children. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Love > > > > > is a Notion > > > > > is a Nation > > > > > > > > > > Set me FREE! > > > > > > > > > > Let there be no Harm in Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace and Light, > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I traded in my Hummers......I separate the trash........I walk > to > > > > work......(sometimes)....... > > > > > > > > > > > > WHAT DO OOOO OOO YOU WANT FROM ME EE EEEEEEE? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Toomie, I just want to be your 3 year old grandaughter, sitting on > > > your lap. I'd know it'll be all ok. > > > > > > And since the truth is in here with me, there's too much > suffering. > > > And not enough of me left over to spare. > > > > > > A. > > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > There is untold suffering in this delusional dream. > > > > One can only weep when the appearance is mistaken for reality. > > > > There is, however, an alternative....that does not involve > > manipulation of the illusory. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > . . . and that would be that there is no hope for human kind. Anna > it seems to me that you are speaking of some noble desire for higher > mind to heal lower mind,as it were. > Waking up from the dream is to do no harm, and it is all one can be. > Joe. > What type of hope were you holding on to? Were you thinking that the human organisms could eventually attain a more exalted state......that a human utopia.....where love and peace.....will rule the land? Where no harm is done......and everyone gets along? Can you think of any such occurrence....anywhere.....at any time in the history of man? Have you ever lived in a commune? Can you think of any precedent in nature where organisms exist in a loving and peaceful environment? All organisms are programmed to seek out those things that enhance their chances of survival. People seek peace out of the fear of war. I'm not saying that that is bad. I am saying that life becomes an unspeakable joy when......for what ever reason......we stop the compulsion to make it safe. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a moment to share with All Nisargadatta, writers and > > readers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please. What you do or you don't do DOES count. I am reminded > > > that the > > > > > > world continues to be in many escalating crises. I am > > reminded that > > > > > > crises occur individually and collectively when we don't take > > > > > > appropriate action, are in truth denial. Let us not argue > > about what > > > > > > truth is and is not, we all know it in our heart of hearts. > > > > > > > > > > > > We can't look away anymore because everything affects us, > > each and > > > > > > every one. If we can honestly make ourselves accountable for > > our own > > > > > > actions, we can justly make all our 'leaders' accountable for > > their > > > > > > actions. > > > > > > > > > > > > We are the internet generation, we are all inexorably > > > > > > linked/connected, and we've reached the saturation point. We > > have a > > > > > > choice. FOR mother earth. FOR our children. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Love > > > > > > is a Notion > > > > > > is a Nation > > > > > > > > > > > > Set me FREE! > > > > > > > > > > > > Let there be no Harm in Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace and Light, > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I traded in my Hummers......I separate the trash........I walk > > to > > > > > work......(sometimes)....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WHAT DO OOOO OOO YOU WANT FROM ME EE EEEEEEE? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Toomie, I just want to be your 3 year old grandaughter, sitting on > > > > your lap. I'd know it'll be all ok. > > > > > > > > And since the truth is in here with me, there's too much > > suffering. > > > > And not enough of me left over to spare. > > > > > > > > A. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > > > There is untold suffering in this delusional dream. > > > > > > One can only weep when the appearance is mistaken for reality. > > > > > > There is, however, an alternative....that does not involve > > > manipulation of the illusory. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > . . . and that would be that there is no hope for human kind. Anna > > it seems to me that you are speaking of some noble desire for higher > > mind to heal lower mind,as it were. > > Waking up from the dream is to do no harm, and it is all one can be. > > Joe. > What type of hope were you holding on to? > > Were you thinking that the human organisms could eventually attain a > more exalted state......that a human utopia.....where love and > peace.....will rule the land? > > Where no harm is done......and everyone gets along? > > Can you think of any such occurrence....anywhere.....at any time in > the history of man? > > Have you ever lived in a commune? > > Can you think of any precedent in nature where organisms exist in a > loving and peaceful environment? > > All organisms are programmed to seek out those things that enhance > their chances of survival. > > People seek peace out of the fear of war. > > I'm not saying that that is bad. > > I am saying that life becomes an unspeakable joy when......for what > ever reason......we stop the compulsion to make it safe. > > > > > toombaru > good grief! hope is fear. if you read in my reply that I was holding out for hope, you misunderstand. Anna's post was the one about hope. I have no illusions when it comes to people's fear. And I have no illuions that people will cause harm as long as there is ego and mind that is believed. to wake up from the dream of belief is to do no harm.simple as that. Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " <joe.irrelevant wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " > <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a moment to share with All Nisargadatta, writers and > > > readers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please. What you do or you don't do DOES count. I am > reminded > > > > that the > > > > > > > world continues to be in many escalating crises. I am > > > reminded that > > > > > > > crises occur individually and collectively when we don't > take > > > > > > > appropriate action, are in truth denial. Let us not argue > > > about what > > > > > > > truth is and is not, we all know it in our heart of > hearts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can't look away anymore because everything affects us, > > > each and > > > > > > > every one. If we can honestly make ourselves accountable > for > > > our own > > > > > > > actions, we can justly make all our 'leaders' accountable > for > > > their > > > > > > > actions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are the internet generation, we are all inexorably > > > > > > > linked/connected, and we've reached the saturation point. > We > > > have a > > > > > > > choice. FOR mother earth. FOR our children. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Love > > > > > > > is a Notion > > > > > > > is a Nation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Set me FREE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let there be no Harm in Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace and Light, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I traded in my Hummers......I separate the trash........I > walk > > > to > > > > > > work......(sometimes)....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WHAT DO OOOO OOO YOU WANT FROM ME EE EEEEEEE? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Toomie, I just want to be your 3 year old grandaughter, > sitting on > > > > > your lap. I'd know it'll be all ok. > > > > > > > > > > And since the truth is in here with me, there's too much > > > suffering. > > > > > And not enough of me left over to spare. > > > > > > > > > > A. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > > > > > There is untold suffering in this delusional dream. > > > > > > > > One can only weep when the appearance is mistaken for reality. > > > > > > > > There is, however, an alternative....that does not involve > > > > manipulation of the illusory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > . . . and that would be that there is no hope for human kind. > Anna > > > it seems to me that you are speaking of some noble desire for > higher > > > mind to heal lower mind,as it were. > > > Waking up from the dream is to do no harm, and it is all one can > be. > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What type of hope were you holding on to? > > > > Were you thinking that the human organisms could eventually attain a > > more exalted state......that a human utopia.....where love and > > peace.....will rule the land? > > > > Where no harm is done......and everyone gets along? > > > > Can you think of any such occurrence....anywhere.....at any time in > > the history of man? > > > > Have you ever lived in a commune? > > > > Can you think of any precedent in nature where organisms exist in a > > loving and peaceful environment? > > > > All organisms are programmed to seek out those things that enhance > > their chances of survival. > > > > People seek peace out of the fear of war. > > > > I'm not saying that that is bad. > > > > I am saying that life becomes an unspeakable joy when......for what > > ever reason......we stop the compulsion to make it safe. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > good grief! > hope is fear. if you read in my reply that I was holding out for > hope, you misunderstand. Anna's post was the one about hope. > I have no illusions when it comes to people's fear. And I have no > illuions that people will cause harm as long as there is ego and mind > that is believed. > to wake up from the dream of belief is to do no harm.simple as that. > Joe. > Joe, I did misread what you wrote. Sorry. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " > > <kailashana@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a moment to share with All Nisargadatta, writers and > > > > readers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please. What you do or you don't do DOES count. I am > > reminded > > > > > that the > > > > > > > > world continues to be in many escalating crises. I am > > > > reminded that > > > > > > > > crises occur individually and collectively when we don't > > take > > > > > > > > appropriate action, are in truth denial. Let us not argue > > > > about what > > > > > > > > truth is and is not, we all know it in our heart of > > hearts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can't look away anymore because everything affects us, > > > > each and > > > > > > > > every one. If we can honestly make ourselves accountable > > for > > > > our own > > > > > > > > actions, we can justly make all our 'leaders' accountable > > for > > > > their > > > > > > > > actions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are the internet generation, we are all inexorably > > > > > > > > linked/connected, and we've reached the saturation point. > > We > > > > have a > > > > > > > > choice. FOR mother earth. FOR our children. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Love > > > > > > > > is a Notion > > > > > > > > is a Nation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Set me FREE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let there be no Harm in Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace and Light, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I traded in my Hummers......I separate the trash........I > > walk > > > > to > > > > > > > work......(sometimes)....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WHAT DO OOOO OOO YOU WANT FROM ME EE EEEEEEE? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Toomie, I just want to be your 3 year old grandaughter, > > sitting on > > > > > > your lap. I'd know it'll be all ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > And since the truth is in here with me, there's too much > > > > suffering. > > > > > > And not enough of me left over to spare. > > > > > > > > > > > > A. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > > > > > > > There is untold suffering in this delusional dream. > > > > > > > > > > One can only weep when the appearance is mistaken for reality. > > > > > > > > > > There is, however, an alternative....that does not involve > > > > > manipulation of the illusory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > . . . and that would be that there is no hope for human kind. > > Anna > > > > it seems to me that you are speaking of some noble desire for > > higher > > > > mind to heal lower mind,as it were. > > > > Waking up from the dream is to do no harm, and it is all one can > > be. > > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What type of hope were you holding on to? > > > > > > Were you thinking that the human organisms could eventually attain a > > > more exalted state......that a human utopia.....where love and > > > peace.....will rule the land? > > > > > > Where no harm is done......and everyone gets along? > > > > > > Can you think of any such occurrence....anywhere.....at any time in > > > the history of man? > > > > > > Have you ever lived in a commune? > > > > > > Can you think of any precedent in nature where organisms exist in a > > > loving and peaceful environment? > > > > > > All organisms are programmed to seek out those things that enhance > > > their chances of survival. > > > > > > People seek peace out of the fear of war. > > > > > > I'm not saying that that is bad. > > > > > > I am saying that life becomes an unspeakable joy when......for what > > > ever reason......we stop the compulsion to make it safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > good grief! > > hope is fear. if you read in my reply that I was holding out for > > hope, you misunderstand. Anna's post was the one about hope. > > I have no illusions when it comes to people's fear. And I have no > > illuions that people will cause harm as long as there is ego and mind > > that is believed. > > to wake up from the dream of belief is to do no harm.simple as that. > > Joe. > > > > > Joe, > > I did misread what you wrote. > > Sorry. > > > > > > toombaru > Thanks. Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " > > <kailashana@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a moment to share with All Nisargadatta, writers and > > > > readers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please. What you do or you don't do DOES count. I am > > reminded > > > > > that the > > > > > > > > world continues to be in many escalating crises. I am > > > > reminded that > > > > > > > > crises occur individually and collectively when we don't > > take > > > > > > > > appropriate action, are in truth denial. Let us not argue > > > > about what > > > > > > > > truth is and is not, we all know it in our heart of > > hearts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can't look away anymore because everything affects us, > > > > each and > > > > > > > > every one. If we can honestly make ourselves accountable > > for > > > > our own > > > > > > > > actions, we can justly make all our 'leaders' accountable > > for > > > > their > > > > > > > > actions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are the internet generation, we are all inexorably > > > > > > > > linked/connected, and we've reached the saturation point. > > We > > > > have a > > > > > > > > choice. FOR mother earth. FOR our children. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Love > > > > > > > > is a Notion > > > > > > > > is a Nation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Set me FREE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let there be no Harm in Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace and Light, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I traded in my Hummers......I separate the trash........I > > walk > > > > to > > > > > > > work......(sometimes)....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WHAT DO OOOO OOO YOU WANT FROM ME EE EEEEEEE? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Toomie, I just want to be your 3 year old grandaughter, > > sitting on > > > > > > your lap. I'd know it'll be all ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > And since the truth is in here with me, there's too much > > > > suffering. > > > > > > And not enough of me left over to spare. > > > > > > > > > > > > A. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > > > > > > > There is untold suffering in this delusional dream. > > > > > > > > > > One can only weep when the appearance is mistaken for reality. > > > > > > > > > > There is, however, an alternative....that does not involve > > > > > manipulation of the illusory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > . . . and that would be that there is no hope for human kind. > > Anna > > > > it seems to me that you are speaking of some noble desire for > > higher > > > > mind to heal lower mind,as it were. > > > > Waking up from the dream is to do no harm, and it is all one can > > be. > > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What type of hope were you holding on to? > > > > > > Were you thinking that the human organisms could eventually attain a > > > more exalted state......that a human utopia.....where love and > > > peace.....will rule the land? > > > > > > Where no harm is done......and everyone gets along? > > > > > > Can you think of any such occurrence....anywhere.....at any time in > > > the history of man? > > > > > > Have you ever lived in a commune? > > > > > > Can you think of any precedent in nature where organisms exist in a > > > loving and peaceful environment? > > > > > > All organisms are programmed to seek out those things that enhance > > > their chances of survival. > > > > > > People seek peace out of the fear of war. > > > > > > I'm not saying that that is bad. > > > > > > I am saying that life becomes an unspeakable joy when......for what > > > ever reason......we stop the compulsion to make it safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > good grief! > > hope is fear. if you read in my reply that I was holding out for > > hope, you misunderstand. Anna's post was the one about hope. > > I have no illusions when it comes to people's fear. And I have no > > illuions that people will cause harm as long as there is ego and mind > > that is believed. > > to wake up from the dream of belief is to do no harm.simple as that. > > Joe. > > > > > Joe, > > I did misread what you wrote. > > Sorry. > > > > toombaru > toombaru, you have miswritten what joe will read. condolences, ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " .b bobji baba " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " > > > <kailashana@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a moment to share with All Nisargadatta, writers and > > > > > readers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please. What you do or you don't do DOES count. I am > > > reminded > > > > > > that the > > > > > > > > > world continues to be in many escalating crises. I am > > > > > reminded that > > > > > > > > > crises occur individually and collectively when we don't > > > take > > > > > > > > > appropriate action, are in truth denial. Let us not argue > > > > > about what > > > > > > > > > truth is and is not, we all know it in our heart of > > > hearts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can't look away anymore because everything affects us, > > > > > each and > > > > > > > > > every one. If we can honestly make ourselves accountable > > > for > > > > > our own > > > > > > > > > actions, we can justly make all our 'leaders' accountable > > > for > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > actions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are the internet generation, we are all inexorably > > > > > > > > > linked/connected, and we've reached the saturation point. > > > We > > > > > have a > > > > > > > > > choice. FOR mother earth. FOR our children. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Love > > > > > > > > > is a Notion > > > > > > > > > is a Nation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Set me FREE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let there be no Harm in Harmony. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace and Light, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I traded in my Hummers......I separate the trash........I > > > walk > > > > > to > > > > > > > > work......(sometimes)....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WHAT DO OOOO OOO YOU WANT FROM ME EE EEEEEEE? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Toomie, I just want to be your 3 year old grandaughter, > > > sitting on > > > > > > > your lap. I'd know it'll be all ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And since the truth is in here with me, there's too much > > > > > suffering. > > > > > > > And not enough of me left over to spare. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > > > > > > > > > There is untold suffering in this delusional dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > One can only weep when the appearance is mistaken for reality. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is, however, an alternative....that does not involve > > > > > > manipulation of the illusory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > . . . and that would be that there is no hope for human kind. > > > Anna > > > > > it seems to me that you are speaking of some noble desire for > > > higher > > > > > mind to heal lower mind,as it were. > > > > > Waking up from the dream is to do no harm, and it is all one can > > > be. > > > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What type of hope were you holding on to? > > > > > > > > Were you thinking that the human organisms could eventually attain a > > > > more exalted state......that a human utopia.....where love and > > > > peace.....will rule the land? > > > > > > > > Where no harm is done......and everyone gets along? > > > > > > > > Can you think of any such occurrence....anywhere.....at any time in > > > > the history of man? > > > > > > > > Have you ever lived in a commune? > > > > > > > > Can you think of any precedent in nature where organisms exist in a > > > > loving and peaceful environment? > > > > > > > > All organisms are programmed to seek out those things that enhance > > > > their chances of survival. > > > > > > > > People seek peace out of the fear of war. > > > > > > > > I'm not saying that that is bad. > > > > > > > > I am saying that life becomes an unspeakable joy when......for what > > > > ever reason......we stop the compulsion to make it safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > good grief! > > > hope is fear. if you read in my reply that I was holding out for > > > hope, you misunderstand. Anna's post was the one about hope. > > > I have no illusions when it comes to people's fear. And I have no > > > illuions that people will cause harm as long as there is ego and mind > > > that is believed. > > > to wake up from the dream of belief is to do no harm.simple as that. > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > Joe, > > > > I did misread what you wrote. > > > > Sorry. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > toombaru, > > you have miswritten what joe will read. > > condolences, > > .b b.b. > Ahhhhhh. You have stolen my heart .b b.b.!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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