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Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote:

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> Please watch this video and forward to all in your sphere of

influence.

>

> Let there be Light of Awareness!

>

>

>

>

>

> Love and Peace,

> Anna

>

47 minutes!

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Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana

wrote:

>

> Please watch this video and forward to all in your sphere of

influence.

>

> Let there be Light of Awareness!

>

>

>

>

>

> Love and Peace,

> Anna

>

Anna,

Where in the world is the light of awareness in that video? Why does

history repeat itself over and over as societies and civilizations

inevitably implode? It is ego runamuck. Truth be told no matter how

noble Naomi speaks, she still speaks to fear. But true love allows

for all fear to be realized and only then will peace be realized.

Awareness of the moment as it is. Let that be the peace and love that

will save the human race. Tell that to all the people that you know.

Joe.

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Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

<joe.irrelevant wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Please watch this video and forward to all in your sphere of

> influence.

> >

> > Let there be Light of Awareness!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Love and Peace,

> > Anna

> >

> Anna,

> Where in the world is the light of awareness in that video? Why does

> history repeat itself over and over as societies and civilizations

> inevitably implode? It is ego runamuck. Truth be told no matter how

> noble Naomi speaks, she still speaks to fear. But true love allows

> for all fear to be realized and only then will peace be realized.

> Awareness of the moment as it is. Let that be the peace and love that

> will save the human race. Tell that to all the people that you know.

> Joe.

>

 

 

 

It is only because you believe that you are human that you seek to

preserve the species.

 

The human organism is no different...and no better.... than the

billions of life forms that have evolved on the planet earth.

 

" Love " and " peace " are conceptual constructs and as such cannot be

evoked to suspend the natural laws that effect the longevity of a species.

 

Humans have most likely adversely affected their environment to a

point where their mass survival is in question.

 

Life could care less......other species will prosper.....and the

machinery will grind on.......although perhaps this time without an

observer.

 

 

C'est la vie.

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

> <joe.irrelevant@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Please watch this video and forward to all in your sphere of

> > influence.

> > >

> > > Let there be Light of Awareness!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Love and Peace,

> > > Anna

> > >

> > Anna,

> > Where in the world is the light of awareness in that video? Why

does

> > history repeat itself over and over as societies and

civilizations

> > inevitably implode? It is ego runamuck. Truth be told no matter

how

> > noble Naomi speaks, she still speaks to fear. But true love

allows

> > for all fear to be realized and only then will peace be realized.

> > Awareness of the moment as it is. Let that be the peace and love

that

> > will save the human race. Tell that to all the people that you

know.

> > Joe.

> >

>

>

>

> It is only because you believe that you are human that you seek to

> preserve the species.

>

> The human organism is no different...and no better.... than the

> billions of life forms that have evolved on the planet earth.

>

> " Love " and " peace " are conceptual constructs and as such cannot be

> evoked to suspend the natural laws that effect the longevity of a

species.

>

> Humans have most likely adversely affected their environment to a

> point where their mass survival is in question.

>

> Life could care less......other species will prosper.....and the

> machinery will grind on.......although perhaps this time without an

> observer.

>

>

> C'est la vie.

>

>

> toombaru

>

how in the world do you know what I believe? why don't you tell me

what you believe instead?

what you say is true, but the absolute has no problem with the

relative. so why not play the game of being human.

Joe.

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Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

<joe.irrelevant wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

> > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Please watch this video and forward to all in your sphere of

> > > influence.

> > > >

> > > > Let there be Light of Awareness!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Love and Peace,

> > > > Anna

> > > >

> > > Anna,

> > > Where in the world is the light of awareness in that video? Why

> does

> > > history repeat itself over and over as societies and

> civilizations

> > > inevitably implode? It is ego runamuck. Truth be told no matter

> how

> > > noble Naomi speaks, she still speaks to fear. But true love

> allows

> > > for all fear to be realized and only then will peace be realized.

> > > Awareness of the moment as it is. Let that be the peace and love

> that

> > > will save the human race. Tell that to all the people that you

> know.

> > > Joe.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > It is only because you believe that you are human that you seek to

> > preserve the species.

> >

> > The human organism is no different...and no better.... than the

> > billions of life forms that have evolved on the planet earth.

> >

> > " Love " and " peace " are conceptual constructs and as such cannot be

> > evoked to suspend the natural laws that effect the longevity of a

> species.

> >

> > Humans have most likely adversely affected their environment to a

> > point where their mass survival is in question.

> >

> > Life could care less......other species will prosper.....and the

> > machinery will grind on.......although perhaps this time without an

> > observer.

> >

> >

> > C'est la vie.

> >

> >

> > toombaru

> >

> how in the world do you know what I believe? why don't you tell me

> what you believe instead?

 

 

 

 

OK.....I thought that is what I was doing.

 

 

 

 

> what you say is true, but the absolute has no problem with the

> relative.

 

 

 

 

Absolute and relative are relative concepts.

 

They cannot be used to capture reality.

 

 

 

 

 

so why not play the game of being human.

> Joe.

>

 

 

 

 

 

That is fine......except for the suffering and fear involved.

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

> <joe.irrelevant@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

> > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 "

<kailashana@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Please watch this video and forward to all in your sphere

of

> > > > influence.

> > > > >

> > > > > Let there be Light of Awareness!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Love and Peace,

> > > > > Anna

> > > > >

> > > > Anna,

> > > > Where in the world is the light of awareness in that video?

Why

> > does

> > > > history repeat itself over and over as societies and

> > civilizations

> > > > inevitably implode? It is ego runamuck. Truth be told no

matter

> > how

> > > > noble Naomi speaks, she still speaks to fear. But true love

> > allows

> > > > for all fear to be realized and only then will peace be

realized.

> > > > Awareness of the moment as it is. Let that be the peace and

love

> > that

> > > > will save the human race. Tell that to all the people that

you

> > know.

> > > > Joe.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > It is only because you believe that you are human that you seek

to

> > > preserve the species.

> > >

> > > The human organism is no different...and no better.... than the

> > > billions of life forms that have evolved on the planet earth.

> > >

> > > " Love " and " peace " are conceptual constructs and as such cannot

be

> > > evoked to suspend the natural laws that effect the longevity of

a

> > species.

> > >

> > > Humans have most likely adversely affected their environment to

a

> > > point where their mass survival is in question.

> > >

> > > Life could care less......other species will prosper.....and the

> > > machinery will grind on.......although perhaps this time

without an

> > > observer.

> > >

> > >

> > > C'est la vie.

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> > how in the world do you know what I believe? why don't you tell

me

> > what you believe instead?

>

>

>

>

> OK.....I thought that is what I was doing.

>

>

>

>

> > what you say is true, but the absolute has no problem with the

> > relative.

>

>

>

>

> Absolute and relative are relative concepts.

>

> They cannot be used to capture reality.

>

well duh then, we can call it anything you want.

awareness,consciousness, beingness,what is is,or if you prefer

we can call it reality. What differnace do the words make? That is

such a silly,silly game to play when you are using words only to

point.

>

>

>

>

> so why not play the game of being human.

> > Joe.

> That is fine......except for the suffering and fear involved.

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

there are no exceptions.

Joe.

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Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

<joe.irrelevant wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

> > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

> > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 "

> <kailashana@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please watch this video and forward to all in your sphere

> of

> > > > > influence.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let there be Light of Awareness!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Love and Peace,

> > > > > > Anna

> > > > > >

> > > > > Anna,

> > > > > Where in the world is the light of awareness in that video?

> Why

> > > does

> > > > > history repeat itself over and over as societies and

> > > civilizations

> > > > > inevitably implode? It is ego runamuck. Truth be told no

> matter

> > > how

> > > > > noble Naomi speaks, she still speaks to fear. But true love

> > > allows

> > > > > for all fear to be realized and only then will peace be

> realized.

> > > > > Awareness of the moment as it is. Let that be the peace and

> love

> > > that

> > > > > will save the human race. Tell that to all the people that

> you

> > > know.

> > > > > Joe.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It is only because you believe that you are human that you seek

> to

> > > > preserve the species.

> > > >

> > > > The human organism is no different...and no better.... than the

> > > > billions of life forms that have evolved on the planet earth.

> > > >

> > > > " Love " and " peace " are conceptual constructs and as such cannot

> be

> > > > evoked to suspend the natural laws that effect the longevity of

> a

> > > species.

> > > >

> > > > Humans have most likely adversely affected their environment to

> a

> > > > point where their mass survival is in question.

> > > >

> > > > Life could care less......other species will prosper.....and the

> > > > machinery will grind on.......although perhaps this time

> without an

> > > > observer.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > C'est la vie.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > how in the world do you know what I believe? why don't you tell

> me

> > > what you believe instead?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > OK.....I thought that is what I was doing.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > what you say is true, but the absolute has no problem with the

> > > relative.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Absolute and relative are relative concepts.

> >

> > They cannot be used to capture reality.

> >

> well duh then, we can call it anything you want.

> awareness,consciousness, beingness,what is is,or if you prefer

> we can call it reality. What differnace do the words make? That is

> such a silly,silly game to play when you are using words only to

> point.

> >

> >

 

 

 

The only thing that can be pointed at is another concept.

 

A group of concepts (you) is looking within a group of concepts (your

imaginary world) for answers to questions about concepts.

 

It is a closed loop....from which there is nothing to escape.

 

Kinda like looking around your dreams at night....and trying to figure

things out.

 

Ain't that sumthin?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> >

> >

> > so why not play the game of being human.

> > > Joe.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > That is fine......except for the suffering and fear involved.

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

> >

> there are no exceptions.

> Joe.

>

 

 

 

I don't know what you mean by that.

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

> <joe.irrelevant@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

> > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

> > > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 "

> > <kailashana@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please watch this video and forward to all in your sphere

> > of

> > > > > > influence.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let there be Light of Awareness!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Love and Peace,

> > > > > > > Anna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > Anna,

> > > > > > Where in the world is the light of awareness in that video?

> > Why

> > > > does

> > > > > > history repeat itself over and over as societies and

> > > > civilizations

> > > > > > inevitably implode? It is ego runamuck. Truth be told no

> > matter

> > > > how

> > > > > > noble Naomi speaks, she still speaks to fear. But true love

> > > > allows

> > > > > > for all fear to be realized and only then will peace be

> > realized.

> > > > > > Awareness of the moment as it is. Let that be the peace and

> > love

> > > > that

> > > > > > will save the human race. Tell that to all the people that

> > you

> > > > know.

> > > > > > Joe.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It is only because you believe that you are human that you seek

> > to

> > > > > preserve the species.

> > > > >

> > > > > The human organism is no different...and no better.... than the

> > > > > billions of life forms that have evolved on the planet earth.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Love " and " peace " are conceptual constructs and as such cannot

> > be

> > > > > evoked to suspend the natural laws that effect the longevity of

> > a

> > > > species.

> > > > >

> > > > > Humans have most likely adversely affected their environment to

> > a

> > > > > point where their mass survival is in question.

> > > > >

> > > > > Life could care less......other species will prosper.....and the

> > > > > machinery will grind on.......although perhaps this time

> > without an

> > > > > observer.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > C'est la vie.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > how in the world do you know what I believe? why don't you tell

> > me

> > > > what you believe instead?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > OK.....I thought that is what I was doing.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > what you say is true, but the absolute has no problem with the

> > > > relative.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Absolute and relative are relative concepts.

> > >

> > > They cannot be used to capture reality.

> > >

> > well duh then, we can call it anything you want.

> > awareness,consciousness, beingness,what is is,or if you prefer

> > we can call it reality. What differnace do the words make? That is

> > such a silly,silly game to play when you are using words only to

> > point.

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

> The only thing that can be pointed at is another concept.

>

> A group of concepts (you) is looking within a group of concepts (your

> imaginary world) for answers to questions about concepts.

>

> It is a closed loop....from which there is nothing to escape.

>

> Kinda like looking around your dreams at night....and trying to figure

> things out.

>

> Ain't that sumthin?

>

>

>

> >

> > >

> > > so why not play the game of being human.

> > > > Joe.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > That is fine......except for the suffering and fear involved.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> > there are no exceptions.

> > Joe.

> >

>

>

>

> I don't know what you mean by that.

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

 

there are no such things as meanings.

 

that is a meaningless question.

 

not knowing what that means, shows there are no exceptions..

 

except for the not so fine pain and suffering.

 

even though there is no one to ever feel pain or suffering.

 

i know this, you know this, they know this..

 

but we all keep fucking around.

 

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

> <joe.irrelevant@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

> > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

> > > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 "

> > <kailashana@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please watch this video and forward to all in your

sphere

> > of

> > > > > > influence.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let there be Light of Awareness!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Love and Peace,

> > > > > > > Anna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > Anna,

> > > > > > Where in the world is the light of awareness in that

video?

> > Why

> > > > does

> > > > > > history repeat itself over and over as societies and

> > > > civilizations

> > > > > > inevitably implode? It is ego runamuck. Truth be told no

> > matter

> > > > how

> > > > > > noble Naomi speaks, she still speaks to fear. But true

love

> > > > allows

> > > > > > for all fear to be realized and only then will peace be

> > realized.

> > > > > > Awareness of the moment as it is. Let that be the peace

and

> > love

> > > > that

> > > > > > will save the human race. Tell that to all the people

that

> > you

> > > > know.

> > > > > > Joe.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It is only because you believe that you are human that you

seek

> > to

> > > > > preserve the species.

> > > > >

> > > > > The human organism is no different...and no better.... than

the

> > > > > billions of life forms that have evolved on the planet

earth.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Love " and " peace " are conceptual constructs and as such

cannot

> > be

> > > > > evoked to suspend the natural laws that effect the

longevity of

> > a

> > > > species.

> > > > >

> > > > > Humans have most likely adversely affected their

environment to

> > a

> > > > > point where their mass survival is in question.

> > > > >

> > > > > Life could care less......other species will

prosper.....and the

> > > > > machinery will grind on.......although perhaps this time

> > without an

> > > > > observer.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > C'est la vie.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > how in the world do you know what I believe? why don't you

tell

> > me

> > > > what you believe instead?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > OK.....I thought that is what I was doing.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > what you say is true, but the absolute has no problem with

the

> > > > relative.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Absolute and relative are relative concepts.

> > >

> > > They cannot be used to capture reality.

> > >

> > well duh then, we can call it anything you want.

> > awareness,consciousness, beingness,what is is,or if you prefer

> > we can call it reality. What differnace do the words make? That

is

> > such a silly,silly game to play when you are using words only to

> > point.

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

> The only thing that can be pointed at is another concept.

>

> A group of concepts (you) is looking within a group of concepts

(your

> imaginary world) for answers to questions about concepts.

>

> It is a closed loop....from which there is nothing to escape.

>

> Kinda like looking around your dreams at night....and trying to

figure

> things out.

>

> Ain't that sumthin?

>

>

>

> >

> > >

> > > so why not play the game of being human.

> > > > Joe.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > That is fine......except for the suffering and fear involved.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> > there are no exceptions.

> > Joe.

> >

>

>

>

> I don't know what you mean by that.

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

you appear lost in my concepts with your own concepts.

words either point to nothing or they point to more mind.

I use these words to point to nothing. What is the intent of your

words? We must use concepts to communicate, its all we got? Can you

just look at where they point. And not be concerned with a more

better word that is used to show more enlightened than the next guy?

This sounds a whole lot like superego nonsense. that little bastard

 

 

playing the game of human includes all suffering and all fear. there

are no exceptions.

Joe.

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> you appear lost in my concepts with your own concepts.

> words either point to nothing or they point to more mind.

> I use these words to point to nothing. What is the intent of your

> words? We must use concepts to communicate, its all we got? Can you

> just look at where they point. And not be concerned with a more

> better word that is used to show more enlightened than the next guy?

> This sounds a whole lot like superego nonsense. that little bastard

>

>

> playing the game of human includes all suffering and all fear. there

> are no exceptions.

> Joe.

>

 

 

 

You apparently believe that there is a me thing outside of the

concepts and a you thing outside of the concepts that has the ability

to " do " something.

 

 

That is not the case.

 

 

The so called ego or self is nothing other that those concepts.

 

 

That is a hard one to grasp for one very good reason.

 

 

The one who is trying to grasp is the grasping process itself.

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

>

> > you appear lost in my concepts with your own concepts.

> > words either point to nothing or they point to more mind.

> > I use these words to point to nothing. What is the intent of your

> > words? We must use concepts to communicate, its all we got? Can you

> > just look at where they point. And not be concerned with a more

> > better word that is used to show more enlightened than the next guy?

> > This sounds a whole lot like superego nonsense. that little bastard

> >

> >

> > playing the game of human includes all suffering and all fear. there

> > are no exceptions.

> > Joe.

> >

>

>

>

> You apparently believe that there is a me thing outside of the

> concepts and a you thing outside of the concepts that has the ability

> to " do " something.

>

>

> That is not the case.

>

>

> The so called ego or self is nothing other that those concepts.

>

>

> That is a hard one to grasp for one very good reason.

>

>

> The one who is trying to grasp is the grasping process itself.

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

 

 

 

 

oh.

 

the seeing is that 'you' are still stuck there then.

 

'tis the pity...but..

 

this too shall pass.

 

..b b.b.

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>

> Life could care less......other species will prosper.....and the

> machinery will grind on.......although perhaps this time without an

> observer.

>

>

> C'est la vie.

>

>

> toombaru

>

I caught you,I caught you!(sung to the tune of The

Rock Island Line) nonononononono, if there is no observer, then there

is no knowledge and sine sciencia there is nothing at all.Our " world "

is knowledge through and through.If you don't know it, it ain't

there.Knowledge=consciousness=all. sent by one who is one-er than thou

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

>

> > you appear lost in my concepts with your own concepts.

> > words either point to nothing or they point to more mind.

> > I use these words to point to nothing. What is the intent of your

> > words? We must use concepts to communicate, its all we got? Can

you

> > just look at where they point. And not be concerned with a more

> > better word that is used to show more enlightened than the next

guy?

> > This sounds a whole lot like superego nonsense. that little

bastard

> >

> >

> > playing the game of human includes all suffering and all fear.

there

> > are no exceptions.

> > Joe.

> >

>

>

>

> You apparently believe that there is a me thing outside of the

> concepts and a you thing outside of the concepts that has the

ability

> to " do " something.

>

>

> That is not the case.

>

>

> The so called ego or self is nothing other that those concepts.

>

>

> That is a hard one to grasp for one very good reason.

>

>

> The one who is trying to grasp is the grasping process itself.

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

there is a " me " that is outside of all concepts yet includes all

concepts and is beyond all concepts. we name it as a concept so we

can talk about it. awareness or consciousness or reality(using your

word)or whatever name you wish to choose, it doesn't matter.

I can't get it because its got me.

Joe

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Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant "

<joe.irrelevant wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > > you appear lost in my concepts with your own concepts.

> > > words either point to nothing or they point to more mind.

> > > I use these words to point to nothing. What is the intent of

your

> > > words? We must use concepts to communicate, its all we got?

Can

> you

> > > just look at where they point. And not be concerned with a more

> > > better word that is used to show more enlightened than the next

> guy?

> > > This sounds a whole lot like superego nonsense. that little

> bastard

> > >

> > >

> > > playing the game of human includes all suffering and all fear.

> there

> > > are no exceptions.

> > > Joe.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > You apparently believe that there is a me thing outside of the

> > concepts and a you thing outside of the concepts that has the

> ability

> > to " do " something.

> >

> >

> > That is not the case.

> >

> >

> > The so called ego or self is nothing other that those concepts.

> >

> >

> > That is a hard one to grasp for one very good reason.

> >

> >

> > The one who is trying to grasp is the grasping process itself.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

> >

> there is a " me " that is outside of all concepts yet includes all

> concepts and is beyond all concepts. we name it as a concept so we

> can talk about it. awareness or consciousness or reality(using your

> word)or whatever name you wish to choose, it doesn't matter.

> I can't get it because its got me.

> Joe

 

 

nice description.....

no words about.....

 

 

i remember a statement ...:

" there can only be move....in relation to something in non-move " ....

 

sure....another try....another concept.....

 

but whoever has some awareness.....has some understanding of it...

 

Marc

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Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote:

>

> >

> > Life could care less......other species will prosper.....and the

> > machinery will grind on.......although perhaps this time without an

> > observer.

> >

> >

> > C'est la vie.

> >

> >

> > toombaru

> >

> I caught you,I caught you!(sung to the tune of The

> Rock Island Line) nonononononono, if there is no observer, then there

> is no knowledge and sine sciencia there is nothing at all.Our " world "

> is knowledge through and through.If you don't know it, it ain't

> there.Knowledge=consciousness=all. sent by one who is one-er than thou

>

 

 

 

Good morning gentlemen,

 

As usual, you have gotten excited;-) over the subcontext of my message.

 

LIGHT OF AWARENESS is being able to look at one's own suffering and

fear, transcending it to be of 'skillful means' in doing what one can

in one's " OWN " sphere of influence. After all that is the only thing

we 'own', so to speak. And think not that we do not. (Without

presence, where would we be?)

 

Besides, we took it upon ourselves when we removed ourselves from the

ONENESS and created 'otherness'.

 

And hence it's been rough going ever since. History is replete with

inhumanity--to one another, to all sentient creatures--Mother Earth is

a conscious entity.

 

She knows when we're being bad. ;-)

 

Even if we choose to be bliss bunnies, head hunters ;-), or dragons of

despair.

 

Lots of Love,

Anna

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