Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 P: Stefan, I crossposted your message to Tom at another list, and this seeker has this question for you. > What if one tries to live a life > without underlying principles? > Completely naked? > Under an open sky? > > Stefan > > Dapel: Stefan, you mean to live without of god, without logic? that is scarry, how to make decisions then? what would be the values you consider to make decisions and understand the world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > P: Stefan, I crossposted your message to Tom > at another list, and this seeker has this > question for you. > > > What if one tries to live a life > > without underlying principles? > > Completely naked? > > Under an open sky? > > > > Stefan > > > > > Dapel: Stefan, you mean to live without of god, without logic? that is scarry, how to make decisions then? what would be the values you consider to make decisions and understand the world? I can imagine two possible scenarios: A. Total selfishness + total immersion in instantaneous pleasures + instantaneous running away from pain and fear. i.e. a life lived indulging in sensual pleasures [and in avoiding sensory pain] Moment to Moment. Or, B. Continuous confusion and continuous uncertainty resulting into... continuous [mental] suffering. Alternative is a life lived according to Christian or Islamic values. If those values don't appeal to you, make your own values. Advaita teaches no 'values' but, then, Advaita tecahes only how to 'die', not, how to 'live'. That it lives up to you... ac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > P: Stefan, I crossposted your message to Tom > > at another list, and this seeker has this > > question for you. > > > > > What if one tries to live a life > > > without underlying principles? > > > Completely naked? > > > Under an open sky? > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > Dapel: Stefan, you mean to live without > of god, without logic? that is > scarry, how to make decisions then? > what would be the values you > consider to make decisions and understand the world? > > > I can imagine two possible scenarios: > > A. Total selfishness + total immersion > in instantaneous pleasures + instantaneous > running away from pain and fear. > > i.e. a life lived indulging in sensual pleasures > [and in avoiding sensory pain] Moment to Moment. > > Or, > > B. Continuous confusion and continuous uncertainty > resulting into... continuous [mental] suffering. > > > Alternative is a life lived according to > Christian or Islamic values. If those > values don't appeal to you, make your > own values. > > Advaita teaches no 'values' but, then, > Advaita tecahes only how to 'die', not, > how to 'live'. That it lives up to you... > > > > > ac advaita teaches no such thing. advaita teaches nothing. advaita is indifferent.. 'you' were never 'born'.. 'you' will never 'die'. no one is forlorn.. 'you' is just a lie. why the hell would advaita be 'teaching' how to die.. how to anything? just 'who' would advaita be teaching? dumb! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > P: Stefan, I crossposted your message to Tom > at another list, and this seeker has this > question for you. > > > What if one tries to live a life > > without underlying principles? > > Completely naked? > > Under an open sky? > > > > Stefan > > > > > Dapel: Stefan, you mean to live without of god, without logic? that is > scarry, how to make decisions then? what would be the values you > consider to make decisions and understand the world? was that list " The Friendly Evangelical Church of the Answers " ? are purblind and obtuse queries common there? are you the Master of the House there pedsie? have another sacramental glass of wine (or ten) with the brethren. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > P: Stefan, I crossposted your message to Tom > at another list, and this seeker has this > question for you. > > > What if one tries to live a life > > without underlying principles? > > Completely naked? > > Under an open sky? > > > > Stefan > > > > >Dapel: Stefan, you mean to live without of god, without logic? that >is scarry, how to make decisions then? what would be the values you >consider to make decisions and understand the world? Hi Dapel, I have no choice. Life itself lives without God and without logic. I am alive. I open my eyes, I look around, I see no God and no logic. I see the seeing and melt into the seen. When logic is needed, it comes into place. When it is not needed it disappears. Yes, this is scary for this Stefan, who believes he needs conceptions in order to be someone who continues. But when he sees the flow and becomes the flow, he becomes what he already is, where he has no other choice anyway. And everything still works! Now, what has to be understood? There is wonder, sometimes a question mark, at the most. But no matter if I wonder or not, everything comes as it comes and goes as it goes. It is worth a try. Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 > > > advaita teaches no such thing. > > advaita teaches nothing. > > advaita is indifferent.. > > 'you' were never 'born'.. > > 'you' will never 'die'. > > no one is forlorn.. > > 'you' is just a lie. > > why the hell would advaita be 'teaching' how to die.. > > how to anything? > > just 'who' would advaita be teaching? > > dumb! > > .b b.b. > Or, as somebody has said: Everywhere is doing everything. z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > > > > > > > advaita teaches no such thing. > > > > advaita teaches nothing. > > > > advaita is indifferent.. > > > > 'you' were never 'born'.. > > > > 'you' will never 'die'. > > > > no one is forlorn.. > > > > 'you' is just a lie. > > > > why the hell would advaita be 'teaching' how to die.. > > > > how to anything? > > > > just 'who' would advaita be teaching? > > > > dumb! > > > > .b b.b. > > > Or, as somebody has said: Everywhere is doing everything. z what it is... is.. the what is. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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