Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 " you " are going through life..... just like " you " go through dreams during sleep.... all is up to " you " ....there is nobody else... and never will be.... Marc Ps: ignoring imaginary " you " ....is also ignoring the Self.....within all there Is.... ....the result of such ignorance.....: one day.......death.....without ever having known......who " you " are........for real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > " you " are going through life..... > > just like " you " go through dreams during sleep.... > > all is up to " you " ....there is nobody else... > > and never will be.... > > > Marc > > > Ps: ignoring imaginary " you " ....is also ignoring the Self.....within > all there Is.... > > ...the result of such ignorance.....: > > one day.......death.....without ever having known......who " you " > are........for real > What?? the real " you " has never lived,so it will never die. Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Hence the assistance provided by religions for most people. Until one is ready and able to recognize the reality of 'what you are' (as nissargadatta reveals) then its best dealt with at the distance which religions provide. Brian Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " <joe.irrelevant wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > " you " are going through life..... > > > > just like " you " go through dreams during sleep.... > > > > all is up to " you " ....there is nobody else... > > > > and never will be.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Ps: ignoring imaginary " you " ....is also ignoring the > Self.....within > > all there Is.... > > > > ...the result of such ignorance.....: > > > > one day.......death.....without ever having known......who " you " > > are........for real > > > What?? > the real " you " has never lived,so it will never die. > Joe. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " <joe.irrelevant wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > " you " are going through life..... > > > > just like " you " go through dreams during sleep.... > > > > all is up to " you " ....there is nobody else... > > > > and never will be.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Ps: ignoring imaginary " you " ....is also ignoring the > Self.....within > > all there Is.... > > > > ...the result of such ignorance.....: > > > > one day.......death.....without ever having known......who " you " > > are........for real > > > What?? > the real " you " has never lived,so it will never die. > Joe. yes....but it's possible to die....without knowing that.... isn't it? Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " are going through life..... > > > > > > just like " you " go through dreams during sleep.... > > > > > > all is up to " you " ....there is nobody else... > > > > > > and never will be.... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Ps: ignoring imaginary " you " ....is also ignoring the > > Self.....within > > > all there Is.... > > > > > > ...the result of such ignorance.....: > > > > > > one day.......death.....without ever having known......who " you " > > > are........for real > > > > > What?? > > the real " you " has never lived,so it will never die. > > Joe. > > yes....but it's possible to die....without knowing that.... > > isn't it? > > Marc > > > oh I get it. lol, perhaps I have crossed over into nothing, I have lost perspective. I remember a quote from Nis though, along the lines of " no one gets lost,all will return home " Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Nisargadatta , " brian_outlier " <lake.001 wrote: > > Hence the assistance provided by religions for most people. Until one > is ready and able to recognize the reality of 'what you are' (as > nissargadatta reveals) then its best dealt with at the distance which > religions provide. > > Brian > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " are going through life..... > > > > > > just like " you " go through dreams during sleep.... > > > > > > all is up to " you " ....there is nobody else... > > > > > > and never will be.... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Ps: ignoring imaginary " you " ....is also ignoring the > > Self.....within > > > all there Is.... > > > > > > ...the result of such ignorance.....: > > > > > > one day.......death.....without ever having known......who " you " > > > are........for real > > > > > What?? > > the real " you " has never lived,so it will never die. > > Joe. > > > Brian, I think that is very astute. It is just too bad that a religion must go to such a drastic point to need fear to buffer the distance. Gotta be a better way, yeah? Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " <joe.irrelevant wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " brian_outlier " <lake.001@> > wrote: > > > > Hence the assistance provided by religions for most people. Until > one > > is ready and able to recognize the reality of 'what you are' (as > > nissargadatta reveals) then its best dealt with at the distance > which > > religions provide. > > > > Brian > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " are going through life..... > > > > > > > > just like " you " go through dreams during sleep.... > > > > > > > > all is up to " you " ....there is nobody else... > > > > > > > > and never will be.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: ignoring imaginary " you " ....is also ignoring the > > > Self.....within > > > > all there Is.... > > > > > > > > ...the result of such ignorance.....: > > > > > > > > one day.......death.....without ever having > known......who " you " > > > > are........for real > > > > > > > What?? > > > the real " you " has never lived,so it will never die. > > > Joe. > > > > > > Brian, > I think that is very astute. It is just too bad that a religion must > go to such a drastic point to need fear to buffer the distance. Gotta > be a better way, yeah? > Joe. don't fear 'religion' either. no matter if it's: science...philosophy..theology..magic...or everyday life.. hocus-pocus all and every.. Grand Deceptions each.. but 'who' is so deceived? no one knows there is no one so deceived. the conception of deception is an exception of expectation. the arithmetic mean and first moment of possibility and promise. the Moxie Mojo.... just so. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " brian_outlier " <lake.001@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hence the assistance provided by religions for most people. Until > > one > > > is ready and able to recognize the reality of 'what you are' (as > > > nissargadatta reveals) then its best dealt with at the distance > > which > > > religions provide. > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " are going through life..... > > > > > > > > > > just like " you " go through dreams during sleep.... > > > > > > > > > > all is up to " you " ....there is nobody else... > > > > > > > > > > and never will be.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: ignoring imaginary " you " ....is also ignoring the > > > > Self.....within > > > > > all there Is.... > > > > > > > > > > ...the result of such ignorance.....: > > > > > > > > > > one day.......death.....without ever having > > known......who " you " > > > > > are........for real > > > > > > > > > What?? > > > > the real " you " has never lived,so it will never die. > > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > Brian, > > I think that is very astute. It is just too bad that a religion must > > go to such a drastic point to need fear to buffer the distance. Gotta > > be a better way, yeah? > > Joe. > > > > > don't fear 'religion' either. > > no matter if it's: > > science...philosophy..theology..magic...or everyday life.. > > hocus-pocus all and every.. > > Grand Deceptions each.. > > but 'who' is so deceived? > > no one knows there is no one so deceived. > > the conception of deception is an exception of expectation. > > the arithmetic mean and first moment of possibility and promise. > > the Moxie Mojo.... > > just so. > > .b b.b. > very eloquent b.b.b. the only problem with religion are the folks who believe are usually such a pain in the ass. Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " <joe.irrelevant wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " are going through life..... > > > > > > > > just like " you " go through dreams during sleep.... > > > > > > > > all is up to " you " ....there is nobody else... > > > > > > > > and never will be.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: ignoring imaginary " you " ....is also ignoring the > > > Self.....within > > > > all there Is.... > > > > > > > > ...the result of such ignorance.....: > > > > > > > > one day.......death.....without ever having > known......who " you " > > > > are........for real > > > > > > > What?? > > > the real " you " has never lived,so it will never die. > > > Joe. > > > > yes....but it's possible to die....without knowing that.... > > > > isn't it? > > > > Marc > > > > > > oh I get it. > lol, perhaps I have crossed over into nothing, I have lost > perspective. > I remember a quote from Nis though, along the lines of " no one gets > lost,all will return home " > Joe. ....yes.... perhaps you ignore imaginary " you " .... because of " your have lost perspective " ..... thats what i'm talking about in the message.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " <joe.irrelevant wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " brian_outlier " <lake.001@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hence the assistance provided by religions for most people. > Until > > > one > > > > is ready and able to recognize the reality of 'what you are' (as > > > > nissargadatta reveals) then its best dealt with at the distance > > > which > > > > religions provide. > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " are going through life..... > > > > > > > > > > > > just like " you " go through dreams during sleep.... > > > > > > > > > > > > all is up to " you " ....there is nobody else... > > > > > > > > > > > > and never will be.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: ignoring imaginary " you " ....is also ignoring the > > > > > Self.....within > > > > > > all there Is.... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...the result of such ignorance.....: > > > > > > > > > > > > one day.......death.....without ever having > > > known......who " you " > > > > > > are........for real > > > > > > > > > > > What?? > > > > > the real " you " has never lived,so it will never die. > > > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian, > > > I think that is very astute. It is just too bad that a religion > must > > > go to such a drastic point to need fear to buffer the distance. > Gotta > > > be a better way, yeah? > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > > don't fear 'religion' either. > > > > no matter if it's: > > > > science...philosophy..theology..magic...or everyday life.. > > > > hocus-pocus all and every.. > > > > Grand Deceptions each.. > > > > but 'who' is so deceived? > > > > no one knows there is no one so deceived. > > > > the conception of deception is an exception of expectation. > > > > the arithmetic mean and first moment of possibility and promise. > > > > the Moxie Mojo.... > > > > just so. > > > > .b b.b. > > > very eloquent b.b.b. > the only problem with religion are the folks who believe are usually > such a pain in the ass. > Joe. lol religions is pain.... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " <joe.irrelevant wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " brian_outlier " <lake.001@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hence the assistance provided by religions for most people. > Until > > > one > > > > is ready and able to recognize the reality of 'what you are' (as > > > > nissargadatta reveals) then its best dealt with at the distance > > > which > > > > religions provide. > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " are going through life..... > > > > > > > > > > > > just like " you " go through dreams during sleep.... > > > > > > > > > > > > all is up to " you " ....there is nobody else... > > > > > > > > > > > > and never will be.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: ignoring imaginary " you " ....is also ignoring the > > > > > Self.....within > > > > > > all there Is.... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...the result of such ignorance.....: > > > > > > > > > > > > one day.......death.....without ever having > > > known......who " you " > > > > > > are........for real > > > > > > > > > > > What?? > > > > > the real " you " has never lived,so it will never die. > > > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian, > > > I think that is very astute. It is just too bad that a religion > must > > > go to such a drastic point to need fear to buffer the distance. > Gotta > > > be a better way, yeah? > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > > don't fear 'religion' either. > > > > no matter if it's: > > > > science...philosophy..theology..magic...or everyday life.. > > > > hocus-pocus all and every.. > > > > Grand Deceptions each.. > > > > but 'who' is so deceived? > > > > no one knows there is no one so deceived. > > > > the conception of deception is an exception of expectation. > > > > the arithmetic mean and first moment of possibility and promise. > > > > the Moxie Mojo.... > > > > just so. > > > > .b b.b. > > > very eloquent b.b.b. > the only problem with religion are the folks who believe are usually > such a pain in the ass. > Joe. :-) most powerfully and effectively put! and of course.. scientists, theologians, magicians, everyday every-bodies... and believers in anything else... can also be an ache in the arse as well.. to who or not to who... just who's ass is the question. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " <joe.irrelevant wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " brian_outlier " <lake.001@> > wrote: > > > > Hence the assistance provided by religions for most people. Until > one > > is ready and able to recognize the reality of 'what you are' (as > > nissargadatta reveals) then its best dealt with at the distance > which > > religions provide. > > > > Brian > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " are going through life..... > > > > > > > > just like " you " go through dreams during sleep.... > > > > > > > > all is up to " you " ....there is nobody else... > > > > > > > > and never will be.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: ignoring imaginary " you " ....is also ignoring the > > > Self.....within > > > > all there Is.... > > > > > > > > ...the result of such ignorance.....: > > > > > > > > one day.......death.....without ever having > known......who " you " > > > > are........for real > > > > > > > What?? > > > the real " you " has never lived,so it will never die. > > > Joe. > > > > > > Brian, > I think that is very astute. It is just too bad that a religion must > go to such a drastic point to need fear to buffer the distance. Gotta > be a better way, yeah? > Joe. > If there is a better way I'm sure its already available. But yes, religions are run by people, and people are far from perfect. That's why the teachings of good folks like Niz are so significant. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Nisargadatta , " brian_outlier " <lake.001 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " brian_outlier " <lake.001@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hence the assistance provided by religions for most people. Until > > one > > > is ready and able to recognize the reality of 'what you are' (as > > > nissargadatta reveals) then its best dealt with at the distance > > which > > > religions provide. > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " are going through life..... > > > > > > > > > > just like " you " go through dreams during sleep.... > > > > > > > > > > all is up to " you " ....there is nobody else... > > > > > > > > > > and never will be.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: ignoring imaginary " you " ....is also ignoring the > > > > Self.....within > > > > > all there Is.... > > > > > > > > > > ...the result of such ignorance.....: > > > > > > > > > > one day.......death.....without ever having > > known......who " you " > > > > > are........for real > > > > > > > > > What?? > > > > the real " you " has never lived,so it will never die. > > > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > Brian, > > I think that is very astute. It is just too bad that a religion must > > go to such a drastic point to need fear to buffer the distance. Gotta > > be a better way, yeah? > > Joe. > > > > If there is a better way I'm sure its already available. But yes, > religions are run by people, and people are far from perfect. That's > why the teachings of good folks like Niz are so significant. > > Brian > there lies the differance of course. the truth nis spoke can never be believed to be realized. Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " joe.irrelevant " > > > <joe.irrelevant@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " are going through life..... > > > > > > > > > > just like " you " go through dreams during sleep.... > > > > > > > > > > all is up to " you " ....there is nobody else... > > > > > > > > > > and never will be.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: ignoring imaginary " you " ....is also ignoring the > > > > Self.....within > > > > > all there Is.... > > > > > > > > > > ...the result of such ignorance.....: > > > > > > > > > > one day.......death.....without ever having > > known......who " you " > > > > > are........for real > > > > > > > > > What?? > > > > the real " you " has never lived,so it will never die. > > > > Joe. > > > > > > yes....but it's possible to die....without knowing that.... > > > > > > isn't it? > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > oh I get it. > > lol, perhaps I have crossed over into nothing, I have lost > > perspective. > > I remember a quote from Nis though, along the lines of " no one gets > > lost,all will return home " > > Joe. > > > ...yes.... > > perhaps you ignore imaginary " you " .... > > because of " your have lost perspective " ..... > > thats what i'm talking about in the message.... > > > Marc > good stuff Marc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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