Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Human beings have a drive for security and safety, which is often what fuels the spiritual search. This very drive for security and safety is what causes so much misery and confusion. Freedom is a state of complete and absolute insecurity and not knowing. So, in seeking security and safety, you actually distance yourself from the Freedom you want. There is no security in Freedom, at least not in the sense that we normally think of it. This is, of course, why it is so free; there's nothing there to grab hold of. The Unknown is more vast, more open, more peaceful, and more freeing than you ever imagined it would be. If you don't experience it that way, it means you're not resting there; you're still trying to know. That will cause you to suffer because you're choosing security over Freedom. When you rest deeply in the Unknown without trying to escape, your experience becomes very vast. As the experience of the Unknown deepens, your boundaries begin to dissolve. You realize, not just intellectually but on a deep level, that you have no idea who or what you are. A few minutes ago, you knew who you were - you had a history and a personality - but from this place of not knowing, you question all of that. Liberated people live in the Unknown and understand that the only reason they know what they are is because they rest in the Unknown moment by moment without defining who they are with the mind. You can imagine how easy it is to get caught in the concept of the Unknown and seek that instead of the Truth. If you seek the concept you'll never be Free, but if you stop looking to myths and concepts and become more interested in the Unknown than in what you know, the door will be flung open. Until then, it will remain closed. I've seen people who have never meditated come to satsang and have a deep experience of the Unknown, and I've known many who remain in the trance because they stay with the mind's techniques and strategies. There is no prerequisite for experiencing the Unknown. Everyone has equal access to it. © 2002 by Adyashanti. All rights reserved. < http://www.adyashanti.org/index.php? \file=writings_inner & writingid=17 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > > Human beings have a drive for security > and safety, which is often what fuels > the spiritual search. This very drive > for security and safety is what causes > so much misery and confusion. Freedom > is a state of complete and absolute > insecurity and not knowing. So, in > seeking security and safety, you > actually distance yourself from the > Freedom you want. There is no security > in Freedom, at least not in the sense > that we normally think of it. This is, > of course, why it is so free; there's > nothing there to grab hold of. Namaste, " We don't want to be free from fear. All that we want to do is to play games with it and talk about freeing ourselves from fear. " U.G. Krishnamurthi. ...Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > Human beings have a drive for security > > and safety, which is often what fuels > > the spiritual search. This very drive > > for security and safety is what causes > > so much misery and confusion. Freedom > > is a state of complete and absolute > > insecurity and not knowing. So, in > > seeking security and safety, you > > actually distance yourself from the > > Freedom you want. There is no security > > in Freedom, at least not in the sense > > that we normally think of it. This is, > > of course, why it is so free; there's > > nothing there to grab hold of. > > Namaste, > " We don't want to be free from fear. All that we want to do is to > play games with it and talk about freeing ourselves from fear. " U.G. > Krishnamurthi. > ..> it is not to free oneself from fear, rather it is only to be present to whatever is. if you are afraid be very afraid. freedom awaits beyond the fear not above it. Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > Human beings have a drive for security > > and safety, which is often what fuels > > the spiritual search. This very drive > > for security and safety is what causes > > so much misery and confusion. Freedom > > is a state of complete and absolute > > insecurity and not knowing. So, in > > seeking security and safety, you > > actually distance yourself from the > > Freedom you want. There is no security > > in Freedom, at least not in the sense > > that we normally think of it. This is, > > of course, why it is so free; there's > > nothing there to grab hold of. > > Namaste, > " We don't want to be free from fear. All that we want to do is to > play games with it and talk about freeing ourselves from fear. " U.G. > Krishnamurthi. > .. " Guys who quote me are full of shit. " u.g.Krishnamurti ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Human beings have a drive for security > > > and safety, which is often what fuels > > > the spiritual search. This very drive > > > for security and safety is what causes > > > so much misery and confusion. Freedom > > > is a state of complete and absolute > > > insecurity and not knowing. So, in > > > seeking security and safety, you > > > actually distance yourself from the > > > Freedom you want. There is no security > > > in Freedom, at least not in the sense > > > that we normally think of it. This is, > > > of course, why it is so free; there's > > > nothing there to grab hold of. > > > > Namaste, > > " We don't want to be free from fear. All that we want to do is to > > play games with it and talk about freeing ourselves from fear. " U.G. > > Krishnamurthi. > > ..> > > " Guys who quote me are full of shit. " > > u.g.Krishnamurti > > .b b.b. > Namaste, Not today my bowels are empty as I had a colonoscopy, but the anaesthetic was a good buzz for a while..........Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Human beings have a drive for security > > > > and safety, which is often what fuels > > > > the spiritual search. This very drive > > > > for security and safety is what causes > > > > so much misery and confusion. Freedom > > > > is a state of complete and absolute > > > > insecurity and not knowing. So, in > > > > seeking security and safety, you > > > > actually distance yourself from the > > > > Freedom you want. There is no security > > > > in Freedom, at least not in the sense > > > > that we normally think of it. This is, > > > > of course, why it is so free; there's > > > > nothing there to grab hold of. > > > > > > Namaste, > > > " We don't want to be free from fear. All that we want to do is to > > > play games with it and talk about freeing ourselves from fear. " > U.G. > > > Krishnamurthi. > > > ..> > > > > > " Guys who quote me are full of shit. " > > > > u.g.Krishnamurti > > > > .b b.b. > > > Namaste, > > Not today my bowels are empty as I had a colonoscopy, but the > anaesthetic was a good buzz for a while.......... :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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