Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Discover all you are not. Body, feelings, thoughts, ideas, time, space, being and not-being, this or that -- nothing concrete or abstract you can point out to is you. A mere verbal statement will not do -- you may repeat a formula endlessly without any result whatsoever. You must watch yourself continuously -- particularly your mind -- moment by moment, missing nothing. This witnessing is essential for the separation of the self from the not-self. Nis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Discover all you are not. Body, feelings, thoughts, ideas, time, space, > being and not-being, this or that -- nothing concrete or abstract you > can point out to is you. A mere verbal statement will not do -- you may > repeat a formula endlessly without any result whatsoever. You must > watch yourself > continuously -- particularly your mind -- moment by moment, missing > nothing. This witnessing is essential for the separation of the self > from the not-self. Nis > and when you discover what you are not, ( body, feelings, thoughts, ideas, time etc. etc.) you will discover you are no-thing but that. and you will make peace with yourself. Love, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > Discover all you are not. Body, feelings, thoughts, ideas, time, space, > being and not-being, this or that -- nothing concrete or abstract you > can point out to is you. A mere verbal statement will not do -- you may > repeat a formula endlessly without any result whatsoever. You must > watch yourself > continuously -- particularly your mind -- moment by moment, missing > nothing. This witnessing is essential for the separation of the self > from the not-self. Nis > Can you show the difference between observing your mind or/ the mental observer and witnessing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Discover all you are not. Body, feelings, thoughts, ideas, time, > space, > > being and not-being, this or that -- nothing concrete or abstract > you > > can point out to is you. A mere verbal statement will not do -- you > may > > repeat a formula endlessly without any result whatsoever. You must > > watch yourself > > continuously -- particularly your mind -- moment by moment, missing > > nothing. This witnessing is essential for the separation of the self > > from the not-self. Nis > > > > Can you show the difference between observing your mind or/ the mental > observer and witnessing? who could show 'the difference', and to whom could 'it' be shown? 'you' take for Reality that which is not. the question is non sequitur. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > Discover all you are not. Body, feelings, thoughts, ideas, time, > > space, > > > being and not-being, this or that -- nothing concrete or abstract > > you > > > can point out to is you. A mere verbal statement will not do -- you > > may > > > repeat a formula endlessly without any result whatsoever. You must > > > watch yourself > > > continuously -- particularly your mind -- moment by moment, missing > > > nothing. This witnessing is essential for the separation of the self > > > from the not-self. Nis > > > > > > > Can you show the difference between observing your mind or/ the mental > > observer and witnessing? > > > > > who could show 'the difference', and to whom could 'it' be shown? > > 'you' take for Reality that which is not. > > the question is non sequitur. > > .b b.b. > What is the difference between nothingness -blank or empty- and No-thing-nes? v h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Discover all you are not. Body, feelings, thoughts, ideas, > time, > > > space, > > > > being and not-being, this or that -- nothing concrete or > abstract > > > you > > > > can point out to is you. A mere verbal statement will not do -- > you > > > may > > > > repeat a formula endlessly without any result whatsoever. You > must > > > > watch yourself > > > > continuously -- particularly your mind -- moment by moment, > missing > > > > nothing. This witnessing is essential for the separation of > the self > > > > from the not-self. Nis > > > > > > > > > > Can you show the difference between observing your mind or/ the > mental > > > observer and witnessing? > > > > > > > > > > who could show 'the difference', and to whom could 'it' be shown? > > > > 'you' take for Reality that which is not. > > > > the question is non sequitur. > > > > .b b.b. > > > What is the difference between nothingness -blank or empty- and > > No-thing-nes? > > v h 'blank' and 'empty'... are the SAME and the same 'thing' in definition and fact. what is the sameness between something-ness and some-thing-ness? what is the sameness between same thing and 'same-thing-ness'? are you getting the drift? the questions posed do not make sense. what good would it do if an answer were possible? would it change anything? pointless speculation is an inborn quality of a pointless life. designated or depicted objects are what they are and that's all. why is the sky blue? why the grass green? why is water wet? the sameness or difference or why-ness are games of children. just get on with it and LIVE.... or play backgammon. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > Discover all you are not. Body, feelings, thoughts, ideas, time, > space, > > being and not-being, this or that -- nothing concrete or abstract > you > > can point out to is you. A mere verbal statement will not do -- you > may > > repeat a formula endlessly without any result whatsoever. You must > > watch yourself > > continuously -- particularly your mind -- moment by moment, missing > > nothing. This witnessing is essential for the separation of the self > > from the not-self. Nis > > > > Can you show the difference between observing your mind or/ the mental > observer and witnessing? > who is asking? that would be mind yeah? mind trying to understand nothing. what a joke! there is that cat chasing its tail again. Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 > and when you discover what you are not, ( body, feelings, thoughts, > ideas, time etc. etc.) you will discover you are no-thing but that. > > and you will make peace with yourself. > > > Love, > Anna > When you discover what you are not you will find that there is nothing left at all. Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen wrote: > > > and when you discover what you are not, ( body, feelings, thoughts, > > ideas, time etc. etc.) you will discover you are no-thing but that. > > > > and you will make peace with yourself. > > > > > > Love, > > Anna > > > When you discover what you are not you will find that there is nothing > left at all. Z it's all or nothing. they are synonymous. nothing is left..... which is never there. ..b b.baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Ok, know the true nature is beyond any thing percieved, felt or thought of, you are nothing. Then living with this nothing, dealing, going to work you have to eat, does all this -everyday living- requires alterations in mind? or you live as you were as if you had not discovered this truth? m Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Discover all you are not. Body, feelings, thoughts, ideas, > > time, > > > > space, > > > > > being and not-being, this or that -- nothing concrete or > > abstract > > > > you > > > > > can point out to is you. A mere verbal statement will not do -- > > you > > > > may > > > > > repeat a formula endlessly without any result whatsoever. You > > must > > > > > watch yourself > > > > > continuously -- particularly your mind -- moment by moment, > > missing > > > > > nothing. This witnessing is essential for the separation of > > the self > > > > > from the not-self. Nis > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you show the difference between observing your mind or/ the > > mental > > > > observer and witnessing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who could show 'the difference', and to whom could 'it' be shown? > > > > > > 'you' take for Reality that which is not. > > > > > > the question is non sequitur. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > What is the difference between nothingness -blank or empty- and > > > > No-thing-nes? > > > > v h > > > > 'blank' and 'empty'... > > are the SAME and the same 'thing' in definition and fact. > > what is the sameness between something-ness and some-thing-ness? > > what is the sameness between same thing and 'same-thing-ness'? > > are you getting the drift? > > the questions posed do not make sense. > > what good would it do if an answer were possible? > > would it change anything? > > pointless speculation is an inborn quality of a pointless life. > > designated or depicted objects are what they are and that's all. > > why is the sky blue? > > why the grass green? > > why is water wet? > > the sameness or difference or why-ness are games of children. > > just get on with it and LIVE.... > > or play backgammon. > > .b b.b. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " mourad " <mourad_shamel wrote: > > Ok, know the true nature is beyond any thing percieved, felt or > thought of, you are nothing. Then living with this nothing, dealing, > going to work you have to eat, does all this -everyday living- > requires alterations in mind? or you live as you were as if you had > not discovered this truth? > > m the wind blows where it wishes and 'you' hear the sound of it.. but do not know where it comes from and where it is going.. so is everyone who is born of the Spirit. True Nature IS as True Nature does. sitting quietly doing nothing the grass grows of itself. care not therefore for the day following... for the day following shall care for itself. each days trouble is sufficient for the same 'self' day. no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen.. not even the " angels in heaven " .. or the Realized itself.. * Only THAT " knows " ....as and of ITSELF carry water, chop wood, watch, look, listen... what is THAT which IS carries on and NOTHING at all changes. Life is Beautiful. and we are full of crap. ..b b.b. ********************************NNB*********************************** > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Discover all you are not. Body, feelings, thoughts, ideas, > > > time, > > > > > space, > > > > > > being and not-being, this or that -- nothing concrete or > > > abstract > > > > > you > > > > > > can point out to is you. A mere verbal statement will not > do -- > > > you > > > > > may > > > > > > repeat a formula endlessly without any result whatsoever. > You > > > must > > > > > > watch yourself > > > > > > continuously -- particularly your mind -- moment by > moment, > > > missing > > > > > > nothing. This witnessing is essential for the separation > of > > > the self > > > > > > from the not-self. Nis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you show the difference between observing your mind or/ > the > > > mental > > > > > observer and witnessing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who could show 'the difference', and to whom could 'it' be > shown? > > > > > > > > 'you' take for Reality that which is not. > > > > > > > > the question is non sequitur. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > What is the difference between nothingness -blank or empty- and > > > > > > No-thing-nes? > > > > > > v h > > > > > > > > 'blank' and 'empty'... > > > > are the SAME and the same 'thing' in definition and fact. > > > > what is the sameness between something-ness and some-thing-ness? > > > > what is the sameness between same thing and 'same-thing-ness'? > > > > are you getting the drift? > > > > the questions posed do not make sense. > > > > what good would it do if an answer were possible? > > > > would it change anything? > > > > pointless speculation is an inborn quality of a pointless life. > > > > designated or depicted objects are what they are and that's all. > > > > why is the sky blue? > > > > why the grass green? > > > > why is water wet? > > > > the sameness or difference or why-ness are games of children. > > > > just get on with it and LIVE.... > > > > or play backgammon. > > > > .b b.b. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " mourad " <mourad_shamel@> wrote: > > > > Ok, know the true nature is beyond any thing percieved, felt or > > thought of, you are nothing. Then living with this nothing, dealing, > > going to work you have to eat, does all this -everyday living- > > requires alterations in mind? or you live as you were as if you had > > not discovered this truth? > > > > m > > > > the wind blows where it wishes and 'you' hear the sound of it.. > > but do not know where it comes from and where it is going.. > > so is everyone who is born of the Spirit. > > True Nature IS as True Nature does. > > sitting quietly doing nothing the grass grows of itself. > > care not therefore for the day following... > > for the day following shall care for itself. > > each days trouble is sufficient for the same 'self' day. > > no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen.. > > not even the " angels in heaven " .. > > or the Realized itself.. > > * Only THAT " knows " ....as and of ITSELF > > carry water, chop wood, watch, look, listen... > > what is THAT which IS carries on and NOTHING at all changes. > > Life is Beautiful. > > and we are full of crap. > > > .b b.b. You mean be as you are, live, do not care for anything or anyone, when happy be happy and when sad be sad, nothing matters. m > ********************************NNB********************************** * > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Discover all you are not. Body, feelings, thoughts, ideas, > > > > time, > > > > > > space, > > > > > > > being and not-being, this or that -- nothing concrete or > > > > abstract > > > > > > you > > > > > > > can point out to is you. A mere verbal statement will not > > do -- > > > > you > > > > > > may > > > > > > > repeat a formula endlessly without any result whatsoever. > > You > > > > must > > > > > > > watch yourself > > > > > > > continuously -- particularly your mind -- moment by > > moment, > > > > missing > > > > > > > nothing. This witnessing is essential for the separation > > of > > > > the self > > > > > > > from the not-self. Nis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you show the difference between observing your mind or/ > > the > > > > mental > > > > > > observer and witnessing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who could show 'the difference', and to whom could 'it' be > > shown? > > > > > > > > > > 'you' take for Reality that which is not. > > > > > > > > > > the question is non sequitur. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > What is the difference between nothingness -blank or empty- and > > > > > > > > No-thing-nes? > > > > > > > > v h > > > > > > > > > > > > 'blank' and 'empty'... > > > > > > are the SAME and the same 'thing' in definition and fact. > > > > > > what is the sameness between something-ness and some-thing- ness? > > > > > > what is the sameness between same thing and 'same-thing-ness'? > > > > > > are you getting the drift? > > > > > > the questions posed do not make sense. > > > > > > what good would it do if an answer were possible? > > > > > > would it change anything? > > > > > > pointless speculation is an inborn quality of a pointless life. > > > > > > designated or depicted objects are what they are and that's all. > > > > > > why is the sky blue? > > > > > > why the grass green? > > > > > > why is water wet? > > > > > > the sameness or difference or why-ness are games of children. > > > > > > just get on with it and LIVE.... > > > > > > or play backgammon. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " mourad " <mourad_shamel wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " mourad " <mourad_shamel@> > wrote: > > > > > > Ok, know the true nature is beyond any thing percieved, felt or > > > thought of, you are nothing. Then living with this nothing, > dealing, > > > going to work you have to eat, does all this -everyday living- > > > requires alterations in mind? or you live as you were as if you > had > > > not discovered this truth? > > > > > > m > > > > > > > > the wind blows where it wishes and 'you' hear the sound of it.. > > > > but do not know where it comes from and where it is going.. > > > > so is everyone who is born of the Spirit. > > > > True Nature IS as True Nature does. > > > > sitting quietly doing nothing the grass grows of itself. > > > > care not therefore for the day following... > > > > for the day following shall care for itself. > > > > each days trouble is sufficient for the same 'self' day. > > > > no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen.. > > > > not even the " angels in heaven " .. > > > > or the Realized itself.. > > > > * Only THAT " knows " ....as and of ITSELF > > > > carry water, chop wood, watch, look, listen... > > > > what is THAT which IS carries on and NOTHING at all changes. > > > > Life is Beautiful. > > > > and we are full of crap. > > > > > > .b b.b. ************************ ********************* *************** ******* > > You mean be as you are, live, do not care for anything or anyone, > when happy be happy and when sad be sad, nothing matters. > > m 'i' don't mean anything. nothing. meaning doesn't 'mean' a thing. there are no things in any 'event'....anyway. how is a hole drilled into a hole? how is the way found on a way without direction? protocols and procedures are not actual. way-less is the Way. desperate are the efforts to find a wayside. nothing is still yet nothing moves. it is not for the 'i' to know. live as if there is no one living. when 'you' are dead.. LIFE emerges as IT IS.... this GLORY before and beyond words. all that is written here is but corruption.. trading coins in the Temple. missing completely the aimless mark.. the consciousness without object or subject. the TRUE SOLIDITY. harder than the hardest steel yet wispy as an unconscious drifting. life goes on and we do our best. ..b b.b. *********************************NNB********************************** > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Discover all you are not. Body, feelings, thoughts, > ideas, > > > > > time, > > > > > > > space, > > > > > > > > being and not-being, this or that -- nothing concrete > or > > > > > abstract > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > can point out to is you. A mere verbal statement will > not > > > do -- > > > > > you > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > repeat a formula endlessly without any result > whatsoever. > > > You > > > > > must > > > > > > > > watch yourself > > > > > > > > continuously -- particularly your mind -- moment by > > > moment, > > > > > missing > > > > > > > > nothing. This witnessing is essential for the > separation > > > of > > > > > the self > > > > > > > > from the not-self. Nis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you show the difference between observing your mind > or/ > > > the > > > > > mental > > > > > > > observer and witnessing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who could show 'the difference', and to whom could 'it' be > > > shown? > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' take for Reality that which is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > the question is non sequitur. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > What is the difference between nothingness -blank or empty- > and > > > > > > > > > > No-thing-nes? > > > > > > > > > > v h > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'blank' and 'empty'... > > > > > > > > are the SAME and the same 'thing' in definition and fact. > > > > > > > > what is the sameness between something-ness and some-thing- > ness? > > > > > > > > what is the sameness between same thing and 'same-thing-ness'? > > > > > > > > are you getting the drift? > > > > > > > > the questions posed do not make sense. > > > > > > > > what good would it do if an answer were possible? > > > > > > > > would it change anything? > > > > > > > > pointless speculation is an inborn quality of a pointless life. > > > > > > > > designated or depicted objects are what they are and that's > all. > > > > > > > > why is the sky blue? > > > > > > > > why the grass green? > > > > > > > > why is water wet? > > > > > > > > the sameness or difference or why-ness are games of children. > > > > > > > > just get on with it and LIVE.... > > > > > > > > or play backgammon. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 No one is alive and no one dies, life has no opposite life lives the " l " , not the " l " is alive, life understands, not me and you, so be it simply live life as if no one is here even the here is wrong because there is no here or there only be and life flows do not become and kill life m Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " mourad " <mourad_shamel@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mourad " <mourad_shamel@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Ok, know the true nature is beyond any thing percieved, felt or > > > > thought of, you are nothing. Then living with this nothing, > > dealing, > > > > going to work you have to eat, does all this -everyday living- > > > > requires alterations in mind? or you live as you were as if you > > had > > > > not discovered this truth? > > > > > > > > m > > > > > > > > > > > > the wind blows where it wishes and 'you' hear the sound of it.. > > > > > > but do not know where it comes from and where it is going.. > > > > > > so is everyone who is born of the Spirit. > > > > > > True Nature IS as True Nature does. > > > > > > sitting quietly doing nothing the grass grows of itself. > > > > > > care not therefore for the day following... > > > > > > for the day following shall care for itself. > > > > > > each days trouble is sufficient for the same 'self' day. > > > > > > no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen.. > > > > > > not even the " angels in heaven " .. > > > > > > or the Realized itself.. > > > > > > * Only THAT " knows " ....as and of ITSELF > > > > > > carry water, chop wood, watch, look, listen... > > > > > > what is THAT which IS carries on and NOTHING at all changes. > > > > > > Life is Beautiful. > > > > > > and we are full of crap. > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > ************************ ********************* *************** ******* > > > > You mean be as you are, live, do not care for anything or anyone, > > when happy be happy and when sad be sad, nothing matters. > > > > m > > > 'i' don't mean anything. > > nothing. > > meaning doesn't 'mean' a thing. > > there are no things in any 'event'....anyway. > > how is a hole drilled into a hole? > > how is the way found on a way without direction? > > protocols and procedures are not actual. > > way-less is the Way. > > desperate are the efforts to find a wayside. > > nothing is still yet nothing moves. > > it is not for the 'i' to know. > > live as if there is no one living. > > when 'you' are dead.. > > LIFE emerges as IT IS.... > > this GLORY before and beyond words. > > all that is written here is but corruption.. > > trading coins in the Temple. > > missing completely the aimless mark.. > > the consciousness without object or subject. > > the TRUE SOLIDITY. > > harder than the hardest steel yet wispy as an unconscious drifting. > > life goes on and we do our best. > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *********************************NNB********************************* * > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " <jeusisbuen@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Discover all you are not. Body, feelings, thoughts, > > ideas, > > > > > > time, > > > > > > > > space, > > > > > > > > > being and not-being, this or that -- nothing concrete > > or > > > > > > abstract > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > can point out to is you. A mere verbal statement will > > not > > > > do -- > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > repeat a formula endlessly without any result > > whatsoever. > > > > You > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > watch yourself > > > > > > > > > continuously -- particularly your mind -- moment by > > > > moment, > > > > > > missing > > > > > > > > > nothing. This witnessing is essential for the > > separation > > > > of > > > > > > the self > > > > > > > > > from the not-self. Nis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you show the difference between observing your mind > > or/ > > > > the > > > > > > mental > > > > > > > > observer and witnessing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who could show 'the difference', and to whom could 'it' be > > > > shown? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' take for Reality that which is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the question is non sequitur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the difference between nothingness -blank or empty- > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > No-thing-nes? > > > > > > > > > > > > v h > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'blank' and 'empty'... > > > > > > > > > > are the SAME and the same 'thing' in definition and fact. > > > > > > > > > > what is the sameness between something-ness and some-thing- > > ness? > > > > > > > > > > what is the sameness between same thing and 'same-thing- ness'? > > > > > > > > > > are you getting the drift? > > > > > > > > > > the questions posed do not make sense. > > > > > > > > > > what good would it do if an answer were possible? > > > > > > > > > > would it change anything? > > > > > > > > > > pointless speculation is an inborn quality of a pointless life. > > > > > > > > > > designated or depicted objects are what they are and that's > > all. > > > > > > > > > > why is the sky blue? > > > > > > > > > > why the grass green? > > > > > > > > > > why is water wet? > > > > > > > > > > the sameness or difference or why-ness are games of children. > > > > > > > > > > just get on with it and LIVE.... > > > > > > > > > > or play backgammon. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Nisargadatta , " mourad " <mourad_shamel wrote: > > No one is alive and no one dies, life has no opposite > > life lives the " l " , not the " l " is alive, life understands, not me > and you, so be it > > simply live life as if no one is here > > even the here is wrong > > because there is no here or there > > only be and life flows > > do not become and kill life > > m :-) BLESS 'you'....and 'me'. BLESSED are ALL. Hallowed is the NAME. ..b b.b. p.s. 'i' never understand what 'i' am saying. but then the 'i' is just in the 'way'. never ever saying anything anyhow. *******************************NNB************************************ > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " mourad " <mourad_shamel@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mourad " <mourad_shamel@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ok, know the true nature is beyond any thing percieved, felt > or > > > > > thought of, you are nothing. Then living with this nothing, > > > dealing, > > > > > going to work you have to eat, does all this -everyday > living- > > > > > requires alterations in mind? or you live as you were as if > you > > > had > > > > > not discovered this truth? > > > > > > > > > > m > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the wind blows where it wishes and 'you' hear the sound of it.. > > > > > > > > but do not know where it comes from and where it is going.. > > > > > > > > so is everyone who is born of the Spirit. > > > > > > > > True Nature IS as True Nature does. > > > > > > > > sitting quietly doing nothing the grass grows of itself. > > > > > > > > care not therefore for the day following... > > > > > > > > for the day following shall care for itself. > > > > > > > > each days trouble is sufficient for the same 'self' day. > > > > > > > > no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen.. > > > > > > > > not even the " angels in heaven " .. > > > > > > > > or the Realized itself.. > > > > > > > > * Only THAT " knows " ....as and of ITSELF > > > > > > > > carry water, chop wood, watch, look, listen... > > > > > > > > what is THAT which IS carries on and NOTHING at all changes. > > > > > > > > Life is Beautiful. > > > > > > > > and we are full of crap. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > ************************ ********************* *************** > ******* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You mean be as you are, live, do not care for anything or > anyone, > > > when happy be happy and when sad be sad, nothing matters. > > > > > > m > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'i' don't mean anything. > > > > nothing. > > > > meaning doesn't 'mean' a thing. > > > > there are no things in any 'event'....anyway. > > > > how is a hole drilled into a hole? > > > > how is the way found on a way without direction? > > > > protocols and procedures are not actual. > > > > way-less is the Way. > > > > desperate are the efforts to find a wayside. > > > > nothing is still yet nothing moves. > > > > it is not for the 'i' to know. > > > > live as if there is no one living. > > > > when 'you' are dead.. > > > > LIFE emerges as IT IS.... > > > > this GLORY before and beyond words. > > > > all that is written here is but corruption.. > > > > trading coins in the Temple. > > > > missing completely the aimless mark.. > > > > the consciousness without object or subject. > > > > the TRUE SOLIDITY. > > > > harder than the hardest steel yet wispy as an unconscious drifting. > > > > life goes on and we do our best. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *********************************NNB********************************* > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " <v.halbred@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Virgil " > <v.halbred@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " tom " > <jeusisbuen@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Discover all you are not. Body, feelings, > thoughts, > > > ideas, > > > > > > > time, > > > > > > > > > space, > > > > > > > > > > being and not-being, this or that -- nothing > concrete > > > or > > > > > > > abstract > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > can point out to is you. A mere verbal statement > will > > > not > > > > > do -- > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > > repeat a formula endlessly without any result > > > whatsoever. > > > > > You > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > watch yourself > > > > > > > > > > continuously -- particularly your mind -- moment > by > > > > > moment, > > > > > > > missing > > > > > > > > > > nothing. This witnessing is essential for the > > > separation > > > > > of > > > > > > > the self > > > > > > > > > > from the not-self. Nis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you show the difference between observing your > mind > > > or/ > > > > > the > > > > > > > mental > > > > > > > > > observer and witnessing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who could show 'the difference', and to whom > could 'it' be > > > > > shown? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'you' take for Reality that which is not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the question is non sequitur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the difference between nothingness -blank or > empty- > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No-thing-nes? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > v h > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'blank' and 'empty'... > > > > > > > > > > > > are the SAME and the same 'thing' in definition and fact. > > > > > > > > > > > > what is the sameness between something-ness and some-thing- > > > ness? > > > > > > > > > > > > what is the sameness between same thing and 'same-thing- > ness'? > > > > > > > > > > > > are you getting the drift? > > > > > > > > > > > > the questions posed do not make sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > what good would it do if an answer were possible? > > > > > > > > > > > > would it change anything? > > > > > > > > > > > > pointless speculation is an inborn quality of a pointless > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > designated or depicted objects are what they are and > that's > > > all. > > > > > > > > > > > > why is the sky blue? > > > > > > > > > > > > why the grass green? > > > > > > > > > > > > why is water wet? > > > > > > > > > > > > the sameness or difference or why-ness are games of > children. > > > > > > > > > > > > just get on with it and LIVE.... > > > > > > > > > > > > or play backgammon. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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