Fwd from NDP: Standing as Awareness.

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NonDualPhil , " mkh " <hovila@> wrote:

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> Greg Goode wrote in Standing as

Awareness:

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> " The Awareness that I'm speaking of

isn't the activity of the brain. It is

That to which appearances appear.

Can you find a time when awareness is out

of touch? When awareness is not

present? Even in deep sleep, you are

there as awareness, registering the fact

that there are no objects at the time.

Awareness is present -- you are

presence -- in the midst of objects, in

the absence of objects, and beyond all

objects. Try to find a time when there is

an object arising, pain, pleasure,

bliss, anger, depression – when awareness

is lacking. "

 

 

 

>How do we know that the awareness

Greg speaks of is not a brain function?

This awareness disappears when the

brain dies, doesn't it? Or does it?

 

 

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> With regard to deep sleep,

> I can't say whether awareness

> is present or not,

> since I have no memory of deep sleep.

 

I have found that Deep sleep is not that

mystical or 'mysterious'.

 

Try meditating when you lie to sleep and you

might enter THAT state, still 'conscious'.

 

 

It has happened to me many times and I have

seen the 'sleep' is not that different than being

'awake'. During wakeful hours, we get involuntary

thoughts - during sleep, we get dreams. During

wakeful hours, we have periods [no matter how

" short " ] of 'no thoughts' - during 'sleep', we have

periods [no matter how 'long'] of 'no dream' known

as 'deep dreamless sleep'.

 

 

 

Even before having this experience of 'being awake

while sleeping', you can ask yourself this - if I am really

'sleeping', how do I 'hear' the alarm clock and how do

I 'know' that it is the alarm clock which is ringing

and that it means, I need to wake up?????

 

 

I have found that even 'reasoning', 'interpretation'

and 'understanding' works in sleep, as it works

in wakeful hours.

 

 

In order to SEE 'sleep', you can also try this:

 

 

http://www.realization.org/page/doc1/doc108b.htm

 

 

Don't touch the 'I' and tell me if you are not sleeping.

 

 

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It is the 'I' that wakes up.

OK. The 'I' has woken up. When the 'I' wakes up, the past, the

present and the future also wake up. This means that time and space

also wake up. Along with time and space the sun wakes up, the moon

wakes up, the stars wake up, mountains wake up, rivers wake up,

forests wake up, men, birds and animals all wake up. When the 'I'

wakes up, everything else wakes up. While this 'I' was sleeping

during the sleep state, everything was quiet. If you don't touch

the 'I' which woke up, you will experience the happiness of sleep

while you are awake. Do it for one single second, half of a single

second, a quarter of a single second. Don't touch the 'I'. The 'I'

is something that we can well afford to be without. Don't touch

the 'I' and tell me if you are not sleeping.

 

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Try it especially when lying to sleep. I have tried

it several times and it has resulted in 'wakeful sleep'

many times.